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  1. true, Lee
    Fred <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Hard not to like Carmen - one tune after another.

    Miss Violette said:

    what a nice unexpected NSV, and the fact you like opera makes you even


    more

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    attractive. Lee who Fred <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Besides feeling fitter, I am still enjoying the novelty of it all. The slimmer me still
    surprises me on occasion. Passing a window or mirror. Or sitting and having the clasped hands
    slipping into the lap since there is no stomach shelf to support them. The other night at the
    opera, I saw a former neighbor, she exclaimed loudy 'wow, you look great" and then repeated it
    about 3 times. It was an UP.

    So I should be able to keep what I'm enjoying - I should only hope.

    On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:34:27 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able


    to

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    go

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    >in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No longer standing out in the
    >world because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere.


    Moving

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    so

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    >easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never


    tiring

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    out

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    >or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in


    stores,

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    et

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    >al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding


    chairs.

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    >A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had a


    moment

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    >or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no


    way...

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    It

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    >is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I was thinking about the other
    >conversation, I think Laura? said she did not


    feel

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    >like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't journal.


    Then

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    >after a week or so, get so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in time,


    I

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    will

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    >have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.
    >
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    >> Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the
    >> ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and


    worrying

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    >> about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I know my future answer.
    >>
    >> Great nsv.
    >>
    >> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
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    >> >I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways
    >> >and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for
    >> >tonight through Monday


    with

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    >> >a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower even
    >> >for a small amount because I've never been


    able

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    >> >to finish without ending up completely winded and with a terrible backache.
    >> >
    >> >Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out


    of

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    >> >breath, and I'm able to stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I
    >> >barely exerted myself at all.
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    >> >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!


    Hoo-yah!

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    >> >Prairie Roots
    >> >232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
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  2. I think that is why he stuck around, I think he figured that out early, Lee
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    Oh yeah, but when EVER does the committee agree on Anything? I might have


    a

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    couple who get together, but never more than 2 or 3.

    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

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    I told my DH when we first started going out, you only need worry if all


    my

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    personalities decide they hate you... Lee, that was over twenty years


    ago

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    Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    ooooooooo. Good idea on the sig lines. Let me consult the committee,


    and

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    see what we can come up with.

    Sybil (how do you spell that multiple personality chicks name anyway) This one uses the "fred"
    method of picking a number for weight - lets


    see.

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    "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's


    my

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    > rational self posting this response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who posts
    > tantrums about the always and forever


    nature

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    > of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines


    so

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    > you'll know who's posting what. <G>
    >
    > Prairie Roots
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    > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:12:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
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    > >Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that


    worth

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    > >the hassle, the ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and


    worrying

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    > >about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I


    know

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    > >my future answer.
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    > >Great nsv.
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    > >On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
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    > >>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches


    of

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    > >>snow from my walkways and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm
    > >>that's predicted for tonight through Monday


    with

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    > >>a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled


    out

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    > >>the snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been


    able

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    > >>to finish without ending up completely winded and with a terrible backache.
    > >>
    > >>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out


    of

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    > >>breath, and I'm able to stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I
    > >>barely exerted myself at all.
    > >>
    > >>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!


    Hoo-yah!

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    > >>Prairie Roots
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  3. I think they probably get classes in return business, Lee
    Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    The doctors code "if you Cure it, no return business, make em Need to see you every 6 weeks...."

    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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    I like the doctor rule, I hate going and they always say things like,


    yep

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    I

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    bet that does hurt wanna pill?? and I knew it hurt a**wipe that is why I


    am

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    here, and no I DO NOT want a pill... Lee Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    When I journal, I see that I have points to feed my very Real hunger.


    And

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    I

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    do it. Right up to whatever points are available. This past week was interesting. I was not
    journaling despite wanting to, then I had a


    few

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    days

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    when I went WAY over. Just Starving. And feeling weak. I bounced up


    to

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    a

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    high of 161.5 right off, within 2 days of eating more. Then began to journal, but ate all my
    points.. and voila, this morning 158.5. I


    think

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    I

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    have a very healthy metabolism, and it is most likely very important


    for

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    me

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    to eat "enough". I think if I journal all this week, by this time


    next

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    week

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    I will be back at my lower range of 156 - 157.5. It works for me very


    well.

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    I guess I am just not ready to stop it yet. I don't have a good feel


    for

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    what is enough.

    Regarding knees? I damaged mine really badly as a teen with my


    horses.

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    When I was gaining the weight I had periods where they were horribly painful. Oddly enough, it
    also happened when I lost the first ton,


    and

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    again last year for a while. NOW my knees are not hurting at all. As


    a

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    nurse, I have a rule. Anything that is not gushing blood does not


    need

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    to

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    be evalutated by a doctor unless it hurts for more than 6 months. (I


    am

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    not

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    counting fevers and such, because I don't get em). "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > ... and restaurant booths. I have gone from feeling squeezed into


    one,

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    to

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    now
    > feeling like I'm sitting in the balcony. <G> I thought my knees no
    longer ached,
    > I was wrong. The cold and damp lately has been a killer. At least


    I

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    now

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    know
    > THIS problem isn't from the weight - just the danged injuries from


    my

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    teen

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    years.
    > <sigh>
    >
    > I have the opposite problem as you. When I journal, I tend to eat


    less -

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    barely
    > making the minimum of my points. I guess there are those days when


    I

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    feel

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    like I
    > can't get enough to eat, have never looked back to see if the two


    relate

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    at all.
    > One more thing to check into. I do think this problem for me comes


    from

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    > overplanning somewhat. Like today ... almost too healthy on all


    meals.

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    Even
    > splurged on a hot fudge sundae (light fudge sauce, skinny cow


    vanilla

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    icecream,
    > half a banana) and still only made it to 19 points. <sigh> Good


    thing

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    I

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    had
    > overdone things greatly on Saturday, and probably will again


    tomorrow.

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    <G>

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    It
    > really is a balancing act - kind of like we're walking a tightrope.
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    > Joyce
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    > On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:34:27 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]>


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    > >YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being


    able

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    to

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    go
    > >in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No


    longer

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    > >standing out in the world because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere.


    Moving

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    so
    > >easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never


    tiring

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    out
    > >or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in


    stores,

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    et
    > >al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding
    chairs.
    > >A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had


    a

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    moment
    > >or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no


    way...

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    It
    > >is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I


    was

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    > >thinking about the other conversation, I think Laura? said she did


    not

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    feel
    > >like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't journal.


    Then

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    > >after a week or so, get so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in


    time,

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    I

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    will
    > >have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.
    > >
    > >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > >> Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that


    worth

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    > >> the hassle, the ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and


    worrying

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    > >> about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I


    know

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    > >> my future answer.
    > >>
    > >> Great nsv.
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    > >> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots


    <[email hidden]>

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    > >> wrote:
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    > >> >I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches


    of

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    > >> >snow from my walkways and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm
    > >> >that's predicted for tonight through


    Monday

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    with

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    > >> >a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled


    out

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    > >> >the snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been


    able

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    > >> >to finish without ending up completely winded and with a


    terrible

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    > >> >backache.
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    > >> >Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up


    out

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    of

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    > >> >breath, and I'm able to stand erect without any twinge of pain.


    In

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    > >> >fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
    > >> >
    > >> >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!


    Hoo-yah!

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    > >> >Prairie Roots
    > >> >232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
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    > >
    >



  4. he doesn't think, he knows I am anal but that didn't start with food so he
    is used to it, Lee
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    You are truely blessed. Mine sort of understands but thinks I get anal


    about

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    it and I don't weigh everything.

    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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    I am blessed that DH does understand and does it for me most times


    without

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    me asking. He also is very good at guessing portions. He is the reason


    I

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    feel comfortable eating out. He can guess within a tenth of an ounce on most meats and
    vegetables, pasta and potatoes are hard for both of us,


    Lee

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    Laura <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zY%Qb.17686$6O4.466242@bgtnsc04-
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    Does your significant other understand that weighing your food is


    important?

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    Mine sometimes does not understand that part yet.

    "JulieB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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    > Well, I may not be journalling, but I did weigh my breakfast cereal


    this

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    > morning, and my pasta and mince last night 🙂 I know myself too


    well,

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    and

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    > weighing food is a WOL now.
    >
    > --
    > Julie.
    > 93.5/72.3/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
    > 205.7/159./162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb
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    > Here's our FAQ: didian.comasdww and welcome notice:
    > geocities.comindex.html
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    > > I'm too new at this to stop journaling but I could see how someone


    who

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    has
    > > made lifetime MIGHT think that the hard part is over and not pay
    attention
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    all

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    the

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    > > weight back if they were not careful. Journaling may be another


    WOL.

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    > > "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > > > YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being


    able

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    to
    > go
    > > > in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No


    longer

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    > > > standing out in the world because I am huge. Fitting


    Everywhere.

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    > Moving
    > > so
    > > > easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk,


    never

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    tiring
    > > out
    > > > or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in
    stores,
    > > et
    > > > al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or


    folding

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    > chairs.
    > > > A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I


    had

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    a

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    > > moment
    > > > or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but


    no

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    way...
    > > It
    > > > is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes.


    I

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    was

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    > > > thinking about the other conversation, I think Laura? said she


    did

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    not

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    > > > like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't


    journal.

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    Then
    > > > after a week or so, get so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in


    time,

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    I
    > > will
    > > > have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.
    > > >
    > > > "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > > > "]news:[email hidden]...
    > > > > Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that


    worth

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    worrying
    > > > > about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that


    I

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    know

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    > > > > my future answer.
    > > > >
    > > > > Great nsv.
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    > > > > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots


    <[email hidden]>

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    inches

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    of

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    Thursday

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    > > > > >(before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight through


    Monday

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    > with
    > > > > >a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've


    pulled

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    out

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    > > > > >the snow blower even for a small amount because I've never


    been

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    able
    > > > > >to finish without ending up completely winded and with a


    terrible

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    > > > > >backache.
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    > > > > >Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up


    out

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    of
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    pain.

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    In

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    > > > > >fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
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    > > > > >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!
    Hoo-yah!
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    > > > > >Prairie Roots
    > > > > >232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
    > > > >
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    > >
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  5. Probably has a streak of politician in there and took a poll 🙂🙂

    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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    I think that is why he stuck around, I think he figured that out early,


    Lee

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    Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Oh yeah, but when EVER does the committee agree on Anything? I might


    have

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    a

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    couple who get together, but never more than 2 or 3.

    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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    I told my DH when we first started going out, you only need worry if


    all

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    my

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    personalities decide they hate you... Lee, that was over twenty years


    ago

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    Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
    > ooooooooo. Good idea on the sig lines. Let me consult the


    committee,

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    and

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    > see what we can come up with.
    >
    > Sybil (how do you spell that multiple personality chicks name anyway) This one uses the
    > "fred" method of picking a number for weight -


    lets

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    see.

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    > 124
    >
    > "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > > You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's


    my

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    > > rational self posting this response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who
    > > posts tantrums about the always and forever


    nature

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    > > of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines


    so

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    > > you'll know who's posting what. <G>
    > >
    > > Prairie Roots
    > >
    > > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:12:24 -0800, Fred


    <[email hidden]>

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    > > wrote:
    > >
    > > >Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that


    worth

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    > > >the hassle, the ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and


    worrying

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    > > >about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I


    know

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    > > >
    > > >Great nsv.
    > > >
    > > >On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots


    <[email hidden]>

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    > > >>that's predicted for tonight through


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    > > >>a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled


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    able

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    terrible

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    > > >>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!


    Hoo-yah!

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    > > >>Prairie Roots
    > > >>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
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  6. On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:27:58 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Well, we've never been convicted of a felony, if that's what you're asking. At least not that we're
    aware of. Maybe there's somebody who hasn't introduced him/herself to us yet.

    Finger prints and dna can screen out _YOUR_ alters.

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    However, that isn't to say we've never committed a felony.

    Oh, always the careful linguist (G)

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    Prairie Roots (aka PR aka Roots aka Prairie aka Sybil aka 124 aka Linda P.)

    Fred said:

    Dear Roots Prairie besides having a split personality, anything else you want to tell us? (g)

    We all have those moments or we would not have gotten where we did.

    Prairie Roots said:

    You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's my rational self posting this
    response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who posts tantrums about the always and
    forever nature of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines so you'll know
    who's posting what. <G>

    Prairie Roots

    On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:12:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
    >hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
    >hope that I know my future answer.
    >
    >Great nsv.
    >
    >On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
    >>alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
    >>through Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the
    >>snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up
    >>completely winded and with a terrible backache.
    >>
    >>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
    >>stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
    >>
    >>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!
    >>
    >>Prairie Roots
    >>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

    Prairie Roots
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  7. Oh, is the am example of IMAGINATION? (g)

    Lesanne said:

    She is very short, and skinny and has to keep an eye out for Zena, who picks on her. Zena would be
    about 157 or so. Then there is Jasmine, who is quite fat, with apple cheeks, and an apron she wears
    most the time. Jasmine looks down her nose at those women who "diet".... Jasmine is about 180, and
    loves it there. She makes apple strudels. See what happens when you hang around with dotty old
    ladies all the time? The imagination just goes nuts.

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    At least, cybil could have picked a respectable and reasonable 142 unless she is also
    shorter???? (G)

    Lesanne said:

    ooooooooo. Good idea on the sig lines. Let me consult the committee,


    and

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    see what we can come up with.

    Sybil (how do you spell that multiple personality chicks name anyway) This one uses the "fred"
    method of picking a number for weight - lets


    see.

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    124

    "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's my rational self posting
    > this response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who posts tantrums about the
    > always and forever nature of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines
    > so you'll know who's posting what. <G>
    >
    > Prairie Roots
    >
    > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:12:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the
    > >ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current
    > >answer and I hope that I know my future answer.
    > >
    > >Great nsv.
    > >
    > >On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >
    > >>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways
    > >>and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
    > >>through Monday


    with

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    > >>a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower even for
    > >>a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up completely winded
    > >>and with a terrible backache.
    > >>
    > >>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
    > >>stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
    > >>
    > >>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!
    > >>
    > >>Prairie Roots
    > >>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
    >


  8. Oh, and they act much smarter in Rigoletto? Or Madame Butterfly or, or or..... That's opera. The
    last one we had here was Mourning Becomes Electra - talk about INSANE characters (G)

    Magic Flute was one we walked out of many years ago in NYC. The lyrics were stupid we thought. I
    have subsequently relented somewhat.

    Opera is sumptuous - music, costumes, dance, scenery, singing. That's what is important (G)

    Catherine White said:

    Hi, Fred, I have an aunt who doesn't like Carmen based on the fact that all the people act
    stupidly. Well, of course they do. This annoys her very much. Carmen was one of the first operas I
    watched on PBS and I love it. I, however, have a hard time with the "Magic Flute." I can listen to
    the music as long as I do not pay too much attention to the plot.

  9. On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:22:36 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Prairie Roots said:

    Well, we've never been convicted of a felony, if that's what you're asking. At least not that
    we're aware of. Maybe there's somebody who hasn't introduced him/herself to us yet.

    Finger prints and dna can screen out _YOUR_ alters.

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    However, that isn't to say we've never committed a felony.

    Oh, always the careful linguist (G)

    I think any prize awarded for linguistic skills would have to go to you, Mr Kama Sushi. <G>
    back atcha

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    Prairie Roots (aka PR aka Roots aka Prairie aka Sybil aka 124 aka Linda P.)

    Fred said:

    Dear Roots Prairie besides having a split personality, anything else you want to tell us? (g)

    We all have those moments or we would not have gotten where we did.

    On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:20:47 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's my rational self posting this
    >response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who posts tantrums about the always and
    >forever nature of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines so you'll know
    >who's posting what. <G>
    >
    >Prairie Roots
    >
    >On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:12:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >>Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
    >>hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
    >>hope that I know my future answer.
    >>
    >>Great nsv.
    >>
    >>On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
    >>>alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
    >>>through Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the
    >>>snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up
    >>>completely winded and with a terrible backache.
    >>>
    >>>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
    >>>stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
    >>>
    >>>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!
    >>>
    >>>Prairie Roots
    >>>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

    Prairie Roots
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  10. no not that, he is far to straightforward but several personalities probably
    lobbied him
    Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Probably has a streak of politician in there and took a poll 🙂🙂

    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

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    I think that is why he stuck around, I think he figured that out early,


    Lee

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    Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Oh yeah, but when EVER does the committee agree on Anything? I might


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    couple who get together, but never more than 2 or 3.

    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...
    > I told my DH when we first started going out, you only need worry if


    all

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    my
    > personalities decide they hate you... Lee, that was over twenty


    years

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    ago

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    > Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > "]news:[email hidden]...
    > > ooooooooo. Good idea on the sig lines. Let me consult the


    committee,

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    and
    > > see what we can come up with.
    > >
    > > Sybil (how do you spell that multiple personality chicks name anyway) This one uses the
    > > "fred" method of picking a number for weight -


    lets

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    see.
    > > 124
    > >
    > > "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > > "]news:[email hidden]...
    > > > You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But


    it's

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    my

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    > > > rational self posting this response. My crazy/emotional/little


    kid

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    > > > side is the one who posts tantrums about the always and forever


    nature

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    > > > of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig


    lines

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    so

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    > > > you'll know who's posting what. <G>
    > > >
    > > > Prairie Roots
    > > >
    > > > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:12:24 -0800, Fred


    <[email hidden]>

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    > > > >Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that


    worth

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    worrying

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    > > > >about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I


    know

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    > > > >my future answer.
    > > > >
    > > > >Great nsv.
    > > > >
    > > > >On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots


    <[email hidden]>

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    Thursday

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    Monday

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    been

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    able

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    terrible

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    > > > >>
    > > > >>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!
    Hoo-yah!
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    > > > >>Prairie Roots
    > > > >>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
    > > >
    > >
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  11. is one of the best cultural excesses ever created, Lee
    Fred <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, and they act much smarter in Rigoletto? Or Madame Butterfly or, or or..... That's opera. The
    last one we had here was Mourning Becomes Electra - talk about INSANE characters (G)

    Magic Flute was one we walked out of many years ago in NYC. The lyrics were stupid we thought. I
    have subsequently relented somewhat.

    Opera is sumptuous - music, costumes, dance, scenery, singing. That's what is important (G)

    Catherine White said:

    Hi, Fred, I have an aunt who doesn't like Carmen based on the fact that


    all

    Quoted message said:
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    the people act stupidly. Well, of course they do. This annoys her very much. Carmen was one of
    the first operas I watched on PBS and I love it. I, however, have a hard time with the "Magic
    Flute." I can listen to the music as long as I do not pay too much attention to the plot.

  12. While creative it was just a fleeting thought and the most time was trying to recall its real name
    (G) I knew what I wanted instantly

    Prairie Roots said:
    Fred said:
    Prairie Roots said:

    Well, we've never been convicted of a felony, if that's what you're asking. At least not that
    we're aware of. Maybe there's somebody who hasn't introduced him/herself to us yet.

    Finger prints and dna can screen out _YOUR_ alters.

    Quoted message said:

    However, that isn't to say we've never committed a felony.

    Oh, always the careful linguist (G)

    I think any prize awarded for linguistic skills would have to go to you, Mr Kama Sushi. <G>
    back atcha

    Quoted message said:
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    Prairie Roots (aka PR aka Roots aka Prairie aka Sybil aka 124 aka Linda P.)

    On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:34:37 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >Dear Roots Prairie besides having a split personality, anything else you want to tell us? (g)
    >
    >We all have those moments or we would not have gotten where we did.
    >
    >On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:20:47 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >>You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's my rational self posting
    >>this response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who posts tantrums about the
    >>always and forever nature of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines so
    >>you'll know who's posting what. <G>
    >>
    >>Prairie Roots
    >>
    >>On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:12:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
    >>>hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
    >>>hope that I know my future answer.
    >>>
    >>>Great nsv.
    >>>
    >>>On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
    >>>>alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
    >>>>through Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the
    >>>>snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up
    >>>>completely winded and with a terrible backache.
    >>>>
    >>>>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
    >>>>stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
    >>>>
    >>>>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!
    >>>>
    >>>>Prairie Roots
    >>>>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

    Prairie Roots
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  13. The scale just loves to reward us for eating over our points ... immediately! <G> I was over points
    on Sunday, as expected weight was also up this morning. Oh, suppose I should also mention that I
    drank a whopping total of 1 glass of water (probably had 4 cups of coffee too). Today I am
    waaaaaaaay under my daily target, but I have eaten and eaten well - just am not very hungry for some
    reason and I don't like to eat just for the sake of eating. Will definitely be interesting to see
    what the scale throws my way tomorrow or Wednesday.

    I do know that over the long haul, not journalling is not good for me. I can get away with it for a
    few days or a week, but much more than that and I think I conveniently forget or just plain ignore
    what I've actually eaten. And a few weeks of behavior like this, and I'm in trouble. <sigh>

    I did see an orthopedist when I was in my early 20's, for the knees. They creek, groan, make some
    rather lovely noises. One locks up periodically, of course only when going DOWN stairs - no warning
    until I'm on my butt. LOL But I disregarded his advise on surgery and still am surviving with the
    same symptoms I had over 25 years ago - sooooooooo. My mom has had both knees surgically replaced,
    my older brother has problems with his knees also - so I do wonder if something is just plain
    heriditary. Of course, playing catcher for years in softball, sliding constantly (improperly
    dragging and ripping open knees) probably didn't help things along. Most of the time I no longer
    have pain, but I really do feel it when the dampness sets in around here. I do tend to just ignore
    it and keep moving. Like you, I don't see a Dr. unless absolutely necessary.

    And fevers? What is it with them? I rarely ever get fevers either, most the time my body temp runs
    well below normal. I know I have felt like I was dying, only to be told my temp. was normal. Yeah,
    right ... normal for who or what?

    Joyce

    Lesanne said:

    When I journal, I see that I have points to feed my very Real hunger. And I do it. Right up to
    whatever points are available. This past week was interesting. I was not journaling despite wanting
    to, then I had a few days when I went WAY over. Just Starving. And feeling weak. I bounced up to a
    high of 161.5 right off, within 2 days of eating more. Then began to journal, but ate all my
    points.. and voila, this morning 158.5. I think I have a very healthy metabolism, and it is most
    likely very important for me to eat "enough". I think if I journal all this week, by this time next
    week I will be back at my lower range of 156 - 157.5. It works for me very well. I guess I am just
    not ready to stop it yet. I don't have a good feel for what is enough.

    Regarding knees? I damaged mine really badly as a teen with my horses. When I was gaining the
    weight I had periods where they were horribly painful. Oddly enough, it also happened when I lost
    the first ton, and again last year for a while. NOW my knees are not hurting at all. As a nurse, I
    have a rule. Anything that is not gushing blood does not need to be evalutated by a doctor unless
    it hurts for more than 6 months. (I am not counting fevers and such, because I don't get em).
    "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    ... and restaurant booths. I have gone from feeling squeezed into one, to


    now

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    feeling like I'm sitting in the balcony. <G> I thought my knees no


    longer ached,

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    I was wrong. The cold and damp lately has been a killer. At least I now


    know

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    THIS problem isn't from the weight - just the danged injuries from my teen


    years.

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    <sigh>

    I have the opposite problem as you. When I journal, I tend to eat less -


    barely

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    making the minimum of my points. I guess there are those days when I feel


    like I

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    can't get enough to eat, have never looked back to see if the two relate


    at all.

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    One more thing to check into. I do think this problem for me comes from overplanning somewhat.
    Like today ... almost too healthy on all meals.


    Even

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    splurged on a hot fudge sundae (light fudge sauce, skinny cow vanilla


    icecream,

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    half a banana) and still only made it to 19 points. <sigh> Good thing I


    had

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    overdone things greatly on Saturday, and probably will again tomorrow. <G>


    It

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    really is a balancing act - kind of like we're walking a tightrope.

    Joyce

    Lesanne said:

    YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able to


    go

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    in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No longer standing out in the world
    because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere. Moving


    so

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    easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never tiring


    out

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    or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in stores,


    et

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    al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding


    chairs.

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    A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had a


    moment

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    or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no way...


    It

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    is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I was thinking about the other
    conversation, I think Laura? said she did not


    feel

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    Quoted message said:

    like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't journal. Then after a week or so, get
    so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in time, I


    will

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    Quoted message said:

    have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
    > hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
    > hope that I know my future answer.
    >
    > Great nsv.
    >
    > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
    > >alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
    > >through Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the
    > >snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up
    > >completely winded and with a terrible backache.
    > >
    > >Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
    > >stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
    > >
    > >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!
    > >
    > >Prairie Roots
    > >232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
    >


  14. mine runs 97.2 and so having a fever is a bit harder to get across to the
    medical types, Lee
    Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The scale just loves to reward us for eating over our points ...


    immediately! <G>

    Quoted message said:

    I was over points on Sunday, as expected weight was also up this morning.


    Oh,

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    suppose I should also mention that I drank a whopping total of 1 glass of


    water

    Quoted message said:

    (probably had 4 cups of coffee too). Today I am waaaaaaaay under my daily


    target,

    Quoted message said:

    but I have eaten and eaten well - just am not very hungry for some reason


    and I

    Quoted message said:

    don't like to eat just for the sake of eating. Will definitely be


    interesting to

    Quoted message said:

    see what the scale throws my way tomorrow or Wednesday.

    I do know that over the long haul, not journalling is not good for me. I


    can get

    Quoted message said:

    away with it for a few days or a week, but much more than that and I think


    I

    Quoted message said:

    conveniently forget or just plain ignore what I've actually eaten. And a


    few

    Quoted message said:

    weeks of behavior like this, and I'm in trouble. <sigh>

    I did see an orthopedist when I was in my early 20's, for the knees. They


    creek,

    Quoted message said:

    groan, make some rather lovely noises. One locks up periodically, of


    course only

    Quoted message said:

    when going DOWN stairs - no warning until I'm on my butt. LOL But I


    disregarded

    Quoted message said:

    his advise on surgery and still am surviving with the same symptoms I had


    over 25

    Quoted message said:

    years ago - sooooooooo. My mom has had both knees surgically replaced, my


    older

    Quoted message said:

    brother has problems with his knees also - so I do wonder if something is


    just

    Quoted message said:

    plain heriditary. Of course, playing catcher for years in softball,


    sliding

    Quoted message said:

    constantly (improperly dragging and ripping open knees) probably didn't


    help

    Quoted message said:

    things along. Most of the time I no longer have pain, but I really do


    feel it

    Quoted message said:

    when the dampness sets in around here. I do tend to just ignore it and


    keep

    Quoted message said:

    moving. Like you, I don't see a Dr. unless absolutely necessary.

    And fevers? What is it with them? I rarely ever get fevers either, most


    the time

    Quoted message said:

    my body temp runs well below normal. I know I have felt like I was dying,


    only to

    Quoted message said:

    be told my temp. was normal. Yeah, right ... normal for who or what?

    Joyce

    Lesanne said:

    When I journal, I see that I have points to feed my very Real hunger.


    And I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    do it. Right up to whatever points are available. This past week was interesting. I was not
    journaling despite wanting to, then I had a few


    days

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    when I went WAY over. Just Starving. And feeling weak. I bounced up to


    a

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    Quoted message said:

    high of 161.5 right off, within 2 days of eating more. Then began to journal, but ate all my
    points.. and voila, this morning 158.5. I think


    I

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    Quoted message said:

    have a very healthy metabolism, and it is most likely very important for


    me

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to eat "enough". I think if I journal all this week, by this time next


    week

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    Quoted message said:

    I will be back at my lower range of 156 - 157.5. It works for me very


    well.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I guess I am just not ready to stop it yet. I don't have a good feel for what is enough.

    Regarding knees? I damaged mine really badly as a teen with my horses. When I was gaining the
    weight I had periods where they were horribly painful. Oddly enough, it also happened when I lost
    the first ton, and again last year for a while. NOW my knees are not hurting at all. As a nurse,
    I have a rule. Anything that is not gushing blood does not need


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be evalutated by a doctor unless it hurts for more than 6 months. (I am


    not

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    counting fevers and such, because I don't get em). "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ... and restaurant booths. I have gone from feeling squeezed into one,


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    now

    Quoted message said:

    feeling like I'm sitting in the balcony. <G> I thought my knees no


    longer ached,

    Quoted message said:

    I was wrong. The cold and damp lately has been a killer. At least I


    now

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    know

    Quoted message said:

    THIS problem isn't from the weight - just the danged injuries from my


    teen

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    years.

    Quoted message said:

    <sigh>

    I have the opposite problem as you. When I journal, I tend to eat


    less -

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    barely

    Quoted message said:

    making the minimum of my points. I guess there are those days when I


    feel

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like I

    Quoted message said:

    can't get enough to eat, have never looked back to see if the two


    relate

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    at all.

    Quoted message said:

    One more thing to check into. I do think this problem for me comes


    from

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    overplanning somewhat. Like today ... almost too healthy on all meals.


    Even

    Quoted message said:

    splurged on a hot fudge sundae (light fudge sauce, skinny cow vanilla


    icecream,

    Quoted message said:

    half a banana) and still only made it to 19 points. <sigh> Good thing


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    had

    Quoted message said:

    overdone things greatly on Saturday, and probably will again tomorrow.


    <G>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It

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    really is a balancing act - kind of like we're walking a tightrope.

    Joyce

    On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:34:27 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    >YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able


    to

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    Quoted message said:

    go

    Quoted message said:

    >in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No longer standing out in the
    >world because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere.


    Moving

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    Quoted message said:

    so

    Quoted message said:

    >easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never


    tiring

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    Quoted message said:

    out

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    >or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in


    stores,

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    Quoted message said:

    et

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    >al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding


    chairs.

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    >A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had a


    moment

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    >or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no


    way...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It

    Quoted message said:

    >is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I was thinking about the other
    >conversation, I think Laura? said she did not


    feel

    Quoted message said:

    >like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't journal.


    Then

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >after a week or so, get so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in time,


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will

    Quoted message said:

    >have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.
    >
    >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >> Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the
    >> ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and


    worrying

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I know my future answer.
    >>
    >> Great nsv.
    >>
    >> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways
    >> >and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for
    >> >tonight through Monday


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower even
    >> >for a small amount because I've never been


    able

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >to finish without ending up completely winded and with a terrible backache.
    >> >
    >> >Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >breath, and I'm able to stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I
    >> >barely exerted myself at all.
    >> >
    >> >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!


    Hoo-yah!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >
    >> >Prairie Roots
    >> >232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
    >>
    >

  15. I think the neatest Thing is how my scale drops Right Back Down after a day or two of journaling and
    staying OP. I really think that the years in the middle when I did not diet at all, but kept
    exercising and lifting weights, built enough muscle to raise my metabolic rate. I lost that extra
    couple of pounds in two days, each of them 31 points. I am really hungry at 31 too, which is not the
    case with most of my friends on WW. They think that is a lot. I eat more than anyone on my journal
    list, when I am Losing weight.

    "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The scale just loves to reward us for eating over our points ...


    immediately! <G>

    Quoted message said:

    I was over points on Sunday, as expected weight was also up this morning.


    Oh,

    Quoted message said:

    suppose I should also mention that I drank a whopping total of 1 glass of


    water

    Quoted message said:

    (probably had 4 cups of coffee too). Today I am waaaaaaaay under my daily


    target,

    Quoted message said:

    but I have eaten and eaten well - just am not very hungry for some reason


    and I

    Quoted message said:

    don't like to eat just for the sake of eating. Will definitely be


    interesting to

    Quoted message said:

    see what the scale throws my way tomorrow or Wednesday.

    I do know that over the long haul, not journalling is not good for me. I


    can get

    Quoted message said:

    away with it for a few days or a week, but much more than that and I think


    I

    Quoted message said:

    conveniently forget or just plain ignore what I've actually eaten. And a


    few

    Quoted message said:

    weeks of behavior like this, and I'm in trouble. <sigh>

    I did see an orthopedist when I was in my early 20's, for the knees. They


    creek,

    Quoted message said:

    groan, make some rather lovely noises. One locks up periodically, of


    course only

    Quoted message said:

    when going DOWN stairs - no warning until I'm on my butt. LOL But I


    disregarded

    Quoted message said:

    his advise on surgery and still am surviving with the same symptoms I had


    over 25

    Quoted message said:

    years ago - sooooooooo. My mom has had both knees surgically replaced, my


    older

    Quoted message said:

    brother has problems with his knees also - so I do wonder if something is


    just

    Quoted message said:

    plain heriditary. Of course, playing catcher for years in softball,


    sliding

    Quoted message said:

    constantly (improperly dragging and ripping open knees) probably didn't


    help

    Quoted message said:

    things along. Most of the time I no longer have pain, but I really do


    feel it

    Quoted message said:

    when the dampness sets in around here. I do tend to just ignore it and


    keep

    Quoted message said:

    moving. Like you, I don't see a Dr. unless absolutely necessary.

    And fevers? What is it with them? I rarely ever get fevers either, most


    the time

    Quoted message said:

    my body temp runs well below normal. I know I have felt like I was dying,


    only to

    Quoted message said:

    be told my temp. was normal. Yeah, right ... normal for who or what?

    Joyce

    Lesanne said:

    When I journal, I see that I have points to feed my very Real hunger.


    And I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    do it. Right up to whatever points are available. This past week was interesting. I was not
    journaling despite wanting to, then I had a few


    days

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    when I went WAY over. Just Starving. And feeling weak. I bounced up to


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    high of 161.5 right off, within 2 days of eating more. Then began to journal, but ate all my
    points.. and voila, this morning 158.5. I think


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have a very healthy metabolism, and it is most likely very important for


    me

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to eat "enough". I think if I journal all this week, by this time next


    week

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I will be back at my lower range of 156 - 157.5. It works for me very


    well.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I guess I am just not ready to stop it yet. I don't have a good feel for what is enough.

    Regarding knees? I damaged mine really badly as a teen with my horses. When I was gaining the
    weight I had periods where they were horribly painful. Oddly enough, it also happened when I lost
    the first ton, and again last year for a while. NOW my knees are not hurting at all. As a nurse,
    I have a rule. Anything that is not gushing blood does not need


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be evalutated by a doctor unless it hurts for more than 6 months. (I am


    not

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    counting fevers and such, because I don't get em). "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ... and restaurant booths. I have gone from feeling squeezed into one,


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    now

    Quoted message said:

    feeling like I'm sitting in the balcony. <G> I thought my knees no


    longer ached,

    Quoted message said:

    I was wrong. The cold and damp lately has been a killer. At least I


    now

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    know

    Quoted message said:

    THIS problem isn't from the weight - just the danged injuries from my


    teen

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    years.

    Quoted message said:

    <sigh>

    I have the opposite problem as you. When I journal, I tend to eat


    less -

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    barely

    Quoted message said:

    making the minimum of my points. I guess there are those days when I


    feel

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like I

    Quoted message said:

    can't get enough to eat, have never looked back to see if the two


    relate

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    at all.

    Quoted message said:

    One more thing to check into. I do think this problem for me comes


    from

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    overplanning somewhat. Like today ... almost too healthy on all meals.


    Even

    Quoted message said:

    splurged on a hot fudge sundae (light fudge sauce, skinny cow vanilla


    icecream,

    Quoted message said:

    half a banana) and still only made it to 19 points. <sigh> Good thing


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    had

    Quoted message said:

    overdone things greatly on Saturday, and probably will again tomorrow.


    <G>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It

    Quoted message said:

    really is a balancing act - kind of like we're walking a tightrope.

    Joyce

    On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:34:27 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    >YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    go

    Quoted message said:

    >in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No longer standing out in the
    >world because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere.


    Moving

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    so

    Quoted message said:

    >easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never


    tiring

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    out

    Quoted message said:

    >or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in


    stores,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    et

    Quoted message said:

    >al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding


    chairs.

    Quoted message said:

    >A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had a


    moment

    Quoted message said:

    >or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no


    way...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It

    Quoted message said:

    >is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I was thinking about the other
    >conversation, I think Laura? said she did not


    feel

    Quoted message said:

    >like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't journal.


    Then

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >after a week or so, get so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in time,


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will

    Quoted message said:

    >have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.
    >
    >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >> Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the
    >> ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and


    worrying

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I know my future answer.
    >>
    >> Great nsv.
    >>
    >> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways
    >> >and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for
    >> >tonight through Monday


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower even
    >> >for a small amount because I've never been


    able

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >to finish without ending up completely winded and with a terrible backache.
    >> >
    >> >Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >breath, and I'm able to stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I
    >> >barely exerted myself at all.
    >> >
    >> >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!


    Hoo-yah!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >
    >> >Prairie Roots
    >> >232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
    >>
    >

  16. yep.

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Oh, is the am example of IMAGINATION? (g)

    Lesanne said:

    She is very short, and skinny and has to keep an eye out for Zena, who


    picks

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    Quoted message said:

    on her. Zena would be about 157 or so. Then there is Jasmine, who is


    quite

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    Quoted message said:

    fat, with apple cheeks, and an apron she wears most the time. Jasmine


    looks

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    Quoted message said:

    down her nose at those women who "diet".... Jasmine is about 180, and


    loves

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    it there. She makes apple strudels. See what happens when you hang


    around

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    with dotty old ladies all the time? The imagination just goes nuts.

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    At least, cybil could have picked a respectable and reasonable 142 unless she is also
    shorter???? (G)

    On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:54:02 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >ooooooooo. Good idea on the sig lines. Let me consult the committee,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    >see what we can come up with.
    >
    >Sybil (how do you spell that multiple personality chicks name anyway) This one uses the "fred"
    >method of picking a number for weight - lets


    see.

    Quoted message said:

    >124
    >
    >"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >> You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's


    my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> rational self posting this response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who posts
    >> tantrums about the always and forever


    nature

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines


    so

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> you'll know who's posting what. <G>
    >>
    >> Prairie Roots
    >>
    >> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:12:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that


    worth

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >the hassle, the ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and


    worrying

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I


    know

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >my future answer.
    >> >
    >> >Great nsv.
    >> >
    >> >On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >>snow from my walkways and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm
    >> >>that's predicted for tonight through Monday


    with

    Quoted message said:

    >> >>a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled


    out

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >>the snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been


    able

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >>to finish without ending up completely winded and with a terrible backache.
    >> >>
    >> >>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> >>breath, and I'm able to stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I
    >> >>barely exerted myself at all.
    >> >>
    >> >>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!


    Hoo-yah!

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  17. This made me laugh because it made such Perfect sense.

    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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    no not that, he is far to straightforward but several personalities


    probably

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    lobbied him Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Probably has a streak of politician in there and took a poll 🙂🙂

    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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    I think that is why he stuck around, I think he figured that out


    early,

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    Lee

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    Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
    > Oh yeah, but when EVER does the committee agree on Anything? I might


    have

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    a
    > couple who get together, but never more than 2 or 3.
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    > > I told my DH when we first started going out, you only need worry


    if

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    all

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    > my
    > > personalities decide they hate you... Lee, that was over twenty


    years

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    > > Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > > > ooooooooo. Good idea on the sig lines. Let me consult the


    committee,

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    > and
    > > > see what we can come up with.
    > > >
    > > > Sybil (how do you spell that multiple personality chicks name anyway) This one uses the
    > > > "fred" method of picking a number for weight -


    lets

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    > > > 124
    > > >
    > > > "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > > > > You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But


    it's

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    my
    > > > > rational self posting this response. My crazy/emotional/little


    kid

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    > > > > side is the one who posts tantrums about the always and


    forever

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    nature
    > > > > of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig


    lines

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    so
    > > > > you'll know who's posting what. <G>
    > > > >
    > > > > Prairie Roots
    > > > >
    > > > > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:12:24 -0800, Fred


    <[email hidden]>

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    > > > > wrote:
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    > > > > >Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do


    that

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    worth
    > > > > >the hassle, the ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and
    worrying
    > > > > >about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that


    I

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    > > > > >
    > > > > >Great nsv.
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    > > > > >On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots


    <[email hidden]>

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    > > > > >wrote:
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    > > > > >>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple


    inches

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    Thursday

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    > > > > >>(before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight through


    Monday

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    > > > > >>a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've


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    been

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    terrible

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    > > > > >>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end


    up

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    pain.

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    > > > > >>fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
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    > > > > >>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!
    > Hoo-yah!
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    "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of
    snow from my walkways and alley parking that we got on Thursday
    (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight through Monday with
    a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out
    the snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been able
    to finish without ending up completely winded and with a terrible
    backache.

    Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of
    breath, and I'm able to stand erect without any twinge of pain. In
    fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.

    The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!

    Prairie Roots
    232/165/WW goal 145
    joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

  19. Hi, Fred, You are right about the best part of opera being when the music, costumes, dance, scenery
    and singing all come together. People acting stupid is pretty much what most stories are about. The
    Magic Flute that you walked out of may have been the one I saw on television. Maybe, it was just a
    bad presentation.

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    Oh, and they act much smarter in Rigoletto? Or Madame Butterfly or, or or..... That's opera. The
    last one we had here was Mourning Becomes Electra - talk about INSANE characters (G)

    Magic Flute was one we walked out of many years ago in NYC. The lyrics were stupid we thought. I
    have subsequently relented somewhat.

    Opera is sumptuous - music, costumes, dance, scenery, singing. That's what is important (G)

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    Hi, Fred, I have an aunt who doesn't like Carmen based on the fact that


    all

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    the people act stupidly. Well, of course they do. This annoys her very much. Carmen was one of
    the first operas I watched on PBS and I love it. I, however, have a hard time with the "Magic
    Flute." I can listen to the music as long as I do not pay too much attention to the plot.

  20. Hi, Lee, Yes, it is.

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    "Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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    is one of the best cultural excesses ever created, Lee Fred <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Oh, and they act much smarter in Rigoletto? Or Madame Butterfly or, or or..... That's opera. The
    last one we had here was Mourning Becomes Electra - talk about INSANE characters (G)

    Magic Flute was one we walked out of many years ago in NYC. The lyrics were stupid we thought. I
    have subsequently relented somewhat.

    Opera is sumptuous - music, costumes, dance, scenery, singing. That's what is important (G)

    Catherine White said:

    Hi, Fred, I have an aunt who doesn't like Carmen based on the fact that


    all

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    the people act stupidly. Well, of course they do. This annoys her


    very

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    much. Carmen was one of the first operas I watched on PBS and I love


    it.

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    I, however, have a hard time with the "Magic Flute." I can listen to


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    music as long as I do not pay too much attention to the plot.


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