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  1. Oh I made the mistake of peaking in my MIL's cookie jar the other day. I
    now want a molasis cookie SO bad I can taste it.. luckily I dont have any
    ingrediants for um 😉

    Tori

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    Speaking of smells, they are a great hunger trigger for me. I don't
    remember hearing people talk about this but I can be not feeling hungry


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    all, then get a whiff of something good and suddenly be ravenous.

    YES!! I avoid the Cinnabon wing at the mall like the plague 🙂.

    --
    Sherry
    364/315/195
    low carb since 4/3/05
    http://lowcarb.owly.net - NEW PICS 6/30 - NEW RECIPES 7/4

  2. While I do have moments that I have overeaten bread it isnt just bread that
    I crave.. maybe that is odd.. I can overlook a slice of bread sitting in the
    loaf.. Jeff and Bonnie both eat bread.. but toast it and slap some butter on
    it and I act like a fool for it. Actualy I got fat drinking reg coke and
    chips and icecream and rice and potatoes and pasta and yes even bread. I
    may have to give up the few higher carb foods I still enjoy on occassion but
    for now I am proud that I am making headway. I tend to overload myself with
    the "Nos" and that makes it harder for me to follow.
    I have unplugged my toaster and it is away in a cabbinet. I am 1 month ice
    cream free.. down 30 lbs since 03/01/05 Last week I walked 7 miles did some
    weight training without weights and swam. That is more activity then I did
    the whole month before.. It isnt that I am in denial it is that sometimes
    a person knows what they need to do to stay on a plan..

    Tori

    --
    Xavier- 10/27/05 "Oooohh whats that on the floor? a dime? Yummy!"
    Bonnie- 03/20/02 "Mommy look a cloud worm is eating the care bears"
    349.5/319/135
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    And I'm sure it was a loaf of bread you were eating.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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    It didnt.. and thats why I dont eat all day long. actualy I never


    really

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    did. I ate a lot in short spurts ignoring the full feeling.. Today I
    stopped
    eating when I was no longer hungry not when I felt full.

    Tori

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    Lots of people can eat what they want all day long and not get fat.

    How did that work out for you?

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --


    MFW

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    > He just does not understand that some people CAN eat lower carbed
    > things
    > like low carb bread. Just can not wrap his head arround it. I know
    > plenty
    > of people that eat bread and are not fat.. On the other hand they


    dont

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    > sit
    > down and eat 3 sandwhiches in a sitting.
    >
    > Tori
    >
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    >> Yes. But the lack of convenience has had the biggest impact as far


    as

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    >> changing my lifestyle, diet-wise, and you were talking about


    lifestyle

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    >> change. Eating low-carb bread instead of regular bread isn't a
    >> lifestyle change, but neither is eating sausage instead of bread.


    The

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    >> whys and hows of eating are the big change, not the food itself.
    >>
    >> In article <[email hidden]>,
    >> "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> > Lack of convenience one facet of what makes it work.
    >> >
    >> > There are many more.
    >> >
    >> > --
    >> >
    >> > Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW
    >> >
    >> > --
    >> > "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >> > > When I have fried eggs, sometimes I'd like a piece of toast to
    >> > > soak
    >> > > up
    >> > > the yolk. I now use a sausage patty instead, which works ok.
    > Sometimes
    >> > > I think this is stupid, because a slice of bread has fewer
    >> > > calories
    > than
    >> > > the sausage, so how is eating the sausage going to help me lose
    > weight?
    >> > > But then I remember that pre-LC, I'd have eaten the toast AND


    the

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    >> > > sausage anyway.
    >> > >
    >> > > What's difficult for me with the low-carb lifestyle isn't


    missing

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    the

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    >> > > foods themselves, but missing the functionality. Like how bread


    can

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    >> > > hold stuff and make it more convenient. Which, imo, is one of


    the

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    > things
    >> > > that makes low-carb work. Since I can't eat a bunless burger
    >> > > while
    >> > > driving (without making a big mess anyway) I don't eat while I


    drive

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    >> > > anymore. Since there's nothing in the house like chips that I


    can

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    > just
    >> > > open and munch on (can't stand pork rinds) I don't mindlessly


    munch.

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    >> > > The most convenient food around here right now is the bagged
    >> > > salad,
    >> > > so
    >> > > if I want to be lazy and not cook, that's what's available.
    > Everything
    >> > > else requires some thought and preparation, which for me is what


    has

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    >> > > been the biggest lifestyle change. Making eating less


    convenient

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    > means
    >> > > I end up only eating when I'm truly hungry.
    >> > >
    >> > > In article <[email hidden]>,
    >> > > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> > >
    >> > >> Do you seriously think that eating bread is going to help you?
    >> > >>
    >> > >> Do you think that eating fake bread is going to help you create


    a

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    >> > >> new
    >> > >> lifestyle?
    >> > >>
    >> > >> If you're not going to get serious, why even bother?
    >> > >>
    >> > >> --
    >> > >> Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
    >> > >> hat. --
    > MFW
    >> > >>
    >> > >>
    >> > >> <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >> > >>
    >> > >> Sure. But low carb bread, in moderate amounts?
    >> > >>
    >> > >> JC Der Koenig wrote:
    >> > >> > Relatively speaking, bread is how relatively many people got
    > relatively
    >> > >> > fat
    >> > >> > in the first place.
    >> > >> >
    >> > >> > --
    >> > >> > Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
    > hat. --
    >> > >> > MFW
    >> > >> >
    >> > >> >
    >> > >> > <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >> > >> >
    >> > >> > Maybe not, but relatively speaking, there is such a thing


    as

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    > low-carb
    >> > >> > bread.
    >> > >> >
    >> > >> > JC Der Koenig wrote:
    >> > >> > > Bread is not low carb.
    >> > >> > >
    >> > >> > > --
    >> > >> > > Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than
    > hat. --
    >> > >> > > MFW
    >> > >> > >
    >> > >> > >
    >> > >> > > "Sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >> > >> > > > I've been tweaking various recipes to try and come up


    with

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    >> > >> > > > more
    >> > >> > > > fiber
    >> > >> > > > in
    >> > >> > > > my
    >> > >> > > > diet (I aim for 30g/day) as well as things to keep my
    >> > >> > > > husband's
    >> > >> > > > lunches
    >> > >> > > > interesting. I've come up with these and they are, if I
    >> > >> > > > may
    > say so
    >> > >> > > > myself,
    >> > >> > > > delicious. You can take 'em or leave 'em if you're not
    > interested,
    >> > >> > > > but
    >> > >> > > > for
    >> > >> > > > those who are, here is the recipe:
    >> > >> > > >
    >> > >> > > > 2c CarbQuik (www.netrition.com)
    >> > >> > > > ½c High Gluten Wheat Flour (www.netrition.com)
    >> > >> > > > 1c flax meal
    >> > >> > > > ½ tsp. salt
    >> > >> > > > 3T butter, room temp
    >> > >> > > > 1½c hot tap water
    >> > >> > > >
    >> > >> > > > Mix dry ingredients thoroughly; create a well in the
    >> > >> > > > center;
    > put
    >> > >> > > > butter
    >> > >> > > > in
    >> > >> > > > well. Add 1 cup of hot water and stir it in, then add


    more

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    as

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    >> > >> > > > needed
    >> > >> > > > to
    >> > >> > > > form a medium-stiff dough; you may not need to use all


    the

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    > water.
    >> > >> > > > Let
    >> > >> > > > rest
    >> > >> > > > for 10 minutes.
    >> > >> > > >
    >> > >> > > > Press dough out onto a buttered jelly-roll size baking


    pan

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    >> > >> > > > with
    >> > >> > > > buttered
    >> > >> > > > fingers; score into 14 equal pieces. Bake at 350ºF until
    > lightly
    >> > >> > > > browned.
    >> > >> > > > Cut at scores and remove from pan to baking rack (bottom


    will

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    > be
    >> > >> > > > moist
    >> > >> > > > and
    >> > >> > > > needs air to dry) to let cool. (I store mine on the


    racks

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    in

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    > my
    >> > >> > > > dehydrator - off of course.)
    >> > >> > > >
    >> > >> > > > These are regular bread-sized pieces, and kept their


    firmness

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    > and
    >> > >> > > > didn't
    >> > >> > > > get
    >> > >> > > > soggy in my husband's lunchbox when I used them for tuna


    salad

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    >> > >> > > > sandwiches -
    >> > >> > > > a big plus! And I'm guessing the dough will make a fine
    >> > >> > > > pizza
    >> > >> > > > crust
    >> > >> > > > as
    >> > >> > > > well...I'll try it sometime this week.
    >> > >> > > >
    >> > >> > > > Here are the numbers (per piece):
    >> > >> > > > kcal - 117
    >> > >> > > > fat/sat - 14/3.5g
    >> > >> > > > carb - 10.7g
    >> > >> > > > fiber - 9.1g
    >> > >> > > > net carb - 1.6g
    >> > >> > > > protein - 14g
    >> > >> > > >
    >> > >> > > > (My business revolves around the creation of foods - and


    it

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    > sure is
    >> > >> > > > coming
    >> > >> > > > in handy now that we're livin' low carb!)
    >> > >> > > > --
    >> > >> > > > Sherry
    >> > >> > > > 364/319/195
    >> > >> > > > low carb since 4/3/05
    >> > >> > > > http://lowcarb.owly.net - NEW PICS 6/30 - NEW RECIPES 7/4
    >> > >> > > >
    >> > >> > > >
    >> > >
    >> > > --
    >> > > http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
    >>
    >> --
    >> http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
    >
    >

  3. "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Anybody have a recipe for making high fiber bread with a bread machine?

    Myra's recipe is tolerant to tweaking. I'm currently replacing the soy with
    a flaxseed / oat bran mix:

    Myra’s Bread Machine Bread

    If you don't mind the soy flour, here's the list of ingredient to add to the
    bread machine:

    3/4 cup lukewarm water
    1 tablespoon butter or oil
    1 egg, slightly beaten
    1 cup vital wheat gluten
    1/2 cup soy flour
    1/2 cup oat flour
    1 teaspoon sugar (needed for the yeast)
    2 teaspoons or 1 package rapid rise yeast

    White cycle, regular crust, small loaf (but use the extender, if you have
    one, because this really rises well).

    Nicky.

    --
    A1c 10.5/4.5/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
    1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
    95/76/72Kg

  4. Sherry said:

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    If you're trying to quit smoking, you don't switch
    to a lower tar and nicotine cigarette.

    Then I guess I am missing the point. I'm trying to lose weight so I should
    have quit eating instead of switching to different foods?

    Don't be silly. You can switch to any number of
    low-carb foods that aren't substitutes for what
    got you in trouble in the first place.

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    BTW...down another 3 lbs this week...whatever I'm doing wrong I gotta keep
    doing it. Sorry...if I don't fit yer mold...

    That's great. See Suze's post from earlier today.

    Marsha/Ohio

  5. "Tori M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    While I do have moments that I have overeaten bread it isnt just bread


    that

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    I crave.. maybe that is odd.. I can overlook a slice of bread sitting in


    the

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    loaf.. Jeff and Bonnie both eat bread.. but toast it and slap some butter


    on

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    it and I act like a fool for it. Actualy I got fat drinking reg coke and
    chips and icecream and rice and potatoes and pasta and yes even bread. I
    may have to give up the few higher carb foods I still enjoy on occassion


    but

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    for now I am proud that I am making headway. I tend to overload myself


    with

    Quoted message said:

    the "Nos" and that makes it harder for me to follow.
    I have unplugged my toaster and it is away in a cabbinet. I am 1 month


    ice

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    cream free.. down 30 lbs since 03/01/05 Last week I walked 7 miles did


    some

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    weight training without weights and swam. That is more activity then I


    did

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    the whole month before.. It isnt that I am in denial it is that sometimes
    a person knows what they need to do to stay on a plan..

    Nobody knows you better than you do 🙂. The best advice I got when I
    started this was to get to know my own body, what I can and can't eat, and
    what foods affect me in what ways. Since this is a lifelong process, that
    advice is serving me well and I applaud you for knowing what you can and
    can't do, and what works for you. Congrats on the 30# and the exercise!

    --
    Sherry
    364/315/195
    low carb since 4/3/05
    http://lowcarb.owly.net - NEW PICS 6/30 - NEW RECIPES 7/4

  6. Sherry said:

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    Don't be silly. You can switch to any number of
    low-carb foods that aren't substitutes for what
    got you in trouble in the first place.

    Or, I can do what I'm doing that's working. What's silly is that any of
    this happened in the first place, as the result of a recipe that anybody ahs
    the freedom to use or to ignore. For adults to argue over whether they
    think other adults should or shouldn't use it - that is what is silly.

    Anytime someone posts an opinion that differs from
    yours, it's arguing and it's silly? Then skip
    them, but that indicates a closed mind, IMO.
    You've been here a while and you know that when
    someone posts a recipe for fake bread, cake,
    whatever, replies come out against it, for very
    good reasons. BTW, did you go back and read
    Suze's earlier post?

    Marsha/Ohio

  7. Some of us are here to support a low carb diet.

    Obviously you're not.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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    "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Don't be silly. You can switch to any number of
    low-carb foods that aren't substitutes for what
    got you in trouble in the first place.


    Or, I can do what I'm doing that's working. What's silly is that any of
    this happened in the first place, as the result of a recipe that anybody
    ahs
    the freedom to use or to ignore. For adults to argue over whether they
    think other adults should or shouldn't use it - that is what is silly.

    --
    Sherry
    364/315/195
    low carb since 4/3/05
    http://lowcarb.owly.net - NEW PICS 6/30 - NEW RECIPES 7/4

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sherry said:

    "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Anytime someone posts an opinion that differs from
    yours, it's arguing and it's silly? Then skip
    them, but that indicates a closed mind, IMO.
    You've been here a while and you know that when
    someone posts a recipe for fake bread, cake,
    whatever, replies come out against it, for very
    good reasons. BTW, did you go back and read
    Suze's earlier post?

    I'd already read it and recognize her opinion for what it is and had no
    comment.

    Now YOU are missing it. I didn't post an opinion. I posted a recipe. I
    didn't say it was good for everybody, which would have been an opinion. I
    didn't say it was bad for everybody, which would have been an opinion. And
    certainly I had enough respect for everyone's right to choose to make it or
    not, and didn't say everybody had to make it or use it. I don't really care
    what others do as long it they're getting the results they want, and I'm
    still wondering why others think they know better than me, or anybody, what
    will work for us.

    Of course, this being usenet, most people already know what is best for
    everyone else; after all if something causes issues for some, then it will
    for everyone else. Otherwise, where would be the fun? That something as
    innocuous as a recipe can set off such inane discussion can only happen
    here. What is even sillier, is that, going against my usual system of
    ignoring discussions that descend into lectures or attempts to control
    others, I allowed myself to even respond to such rubbish. Now THAT is
    silly.

    So, in a support group for low-carb dieting, where some people have more
    experience than others, some have different experiences than others, you
    don't think we should share the opinions we've formed based on our
    experiences? I don't think anyone here said that fake bread causes
    issues for everyone. But just because it hasn't caused problems for
    you, do you think it's not going to cause problems for others? Or do
    you just think we should keep our mouths shut and not warn others that
    it could cause problems?

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  9. "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Don't be silly. You can switch to any number of
    low-carb foods that aren't substitutes for what
    got you in trouble in the first place.


    Or, I can do what I'm doing that's working. What's silly is that any of
    this happened in the first place, as the result of a recipe that anybody ahs
    the freedom to use or to ignore. For adults to argue over whether they
    think other adults should or shouldn't use it - that is what is silly.

    --
    Sherry
    364/315/195
    low carb since 4/3/05
    http://lowcarb.owly.net - NEW PICS 6/30 - NEW RECIPES 7/4

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sherry said:

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    So, in a support group for low-carb dieting, where some people have more
    experience than others, some have different experiences than others, you
    don't think we should share the opinions we've formed based on our
    experiences? I don't think anyone here said that fake bread causes
    issues for everyone. But just because it hasn't caused problems for
    you, do you think it's not going to cause problems for others? Or do
    you just think we should keep our mouths shut and not warn others that
    it could cause problems?

    What I think doesn't matter, I would never tell people to keep their mouths
    shut, or to open them for that matter. Or to eat - or not eat - any kind of
    food. And certainly the "what worked for me" posts have always been
    helpful...much moreso than the "this is what you have to eat" or the "this
    is what you can never eat" posts - and especially the "they don't know any
    better" posts. That a mere recipe would set off such a volley of shots is,
    well...it's usenet.

    Actually, looking back, maybe this was all a big Sunday funny. One person
    posts a recipe, and the ASDLC Usenet guard rushes out and throws their
    bodies over it to protect the others - who can't POSSIBLY know as much as
    they do! - from the threat of an anticipated blast...which of course, never
    comes, because after all, it's only a recipe...but the whole flurry of
    activity has at the very least been amusing upon reflection...and then we
    move on.

    <rofl> Too damned true! ;-D
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  11. Sherry won't be with us much longer. She's already building up towards an
    excuse for leaving the group and gaining all her weight back. (and probably
    more)

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    So, in a support group for low-carb dieting, where some people have more
    experience than others, some have different experiences than others, you
    don't think we should share the opinions we've formed based on our
    experiences? I don't think anyone here said that fake bread causes
    issues for everyone. But just because it hasn't caused problems for
    you, do you think it's not going to cause problems for others? Or do
    you just think we should keep our mouths shut and not warn others that
    it could cause problems?

    What I think doesn't matter, I would never tell people to keep their
    mouths
    shut, or to open them for that matter. Or to eat - or not eat - any kind
    of
    food. And certainly the "what worked for me" posts have always been
    helpful...much moreso than the "this is what you have to eat" or the "this
    is what you can never eat" posts - and especially the "they don't know any
    better" posts. That a mere recipe would set off such a volley of shots
    is,
    well...it's usenet.

    Actually, looking back, maybe this was all a big Sunday funny. One person
    posts a recipe, and the ASDLC Usenet guard rushes out and throws their
    bodies over it to protect the others - who can't POSSIBLY know as much as
    they do! - from the threat of an anticipated blast...which of course,
    never
    comes, because after all, it's only a recipe...but the whole flurry of
    activity has at the very least been amusing upon reflection...and then we
    move on.
    --
    Sherry
    364/315/195
    low carb since 4/3/05
    http://lowcarb.owly.net - NEW PICS 6/30 - NEW RECIPES 7/4

  12. "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Anytime someone posts an opinion that differs from
    yours, it's arguing and it's silly? Then skip
    them, but that indicates a closed mind, IMO.
    You've been here a while and you know that when
    someone posts a recipe for fake bread, cake,
    whatever, replies come out against it, for very
    good reasons. BTW, did you go back and read
    Suze's earlier post?

    I'd already read it and recognize her opinion for what it is and had no
    comment.

    Now YOU are missing it. I didn't post an opinion. I posted a recipe. I
    didn't say it was good for everybody, which would have been an opinion. I
    didn't say it was bad for everybody, which would have been an opinion. And
    certainly I had enough respect for everyone's right to choose to make it or
    not, and didn't say everybody had to make it or use it. I don't really care
    what others do as long it they're getting the results they want, and I'm
    still wondering why others think they know better than me, or anybody, what
    will work for us.

    Of course, this being usenet, most people already know what is best for
    everyone else; after all if something causes issues for some, then it will
    for everyone else. Otherwise, where would be the fun? That something as
    innocuous as a recipe can set off such inane discussion can only happen
    here. What is even sillier, is that, going against my usual system of
    ignoring discussions that descend into lectures or attempts to control
    others, I allowed myself to even respond to such rubbish. Now THAT is
    silly.
    --
    Sherry
    364/315/195
    low carb since 4/3/05
    http://lowcarb.owly.net - NEW PICS 6/30 - NEW RECIPES 7/4

  13. You would make a good (albeit confrontational) psychotherapist, JC,
    if you would eliminate recommendations for suicide and restrain
    yourself from choke-slamming people.

    Depending on the context, below could be viewed as a "paradoxical
    technique."

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Sherry won't be with us much longer. She's already building up towards an
    excuse for leaving the group and gaining all her weight back. (and probably
    more)

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So, in a support group for low-carb dieting, where some people have more
    experience than others, some have different experiences than others, you
    don't think we should share the opinions we've formed based on our
    experiences? I don't think anyone here said that fake bread causes
    issues for everyone. But just because it hasn't caused problems for
    you, do you think it's not going to cause problems for others? Or do
    you just think we should keep our mouths shut and not warn others that
    it could cause problems?

    What I think doesn't matter, I would never tell people to keep their
    mouths
    shut, or to open them for that matter. Or to eat - or not eat - any kind
    of
    food. And certainly the "what worked for me" posts have always been
    helpful...much moreso than the "this is what you have to eat" or the "this
    is what you can never eat" posts - and especially the "they don't know any
    better" posts. That a mere recipe would set off such a volley of shots
    is,
    well...it's usenet.

    Actually, looking back, maybe this was all a big Sunday funny. One person
    posts a recipe, and the ASDLC Usenet guard rushes out and throws their
    bodies over it to protect the others - who can't POSSIBLY know as much as
    they do! - from the threat of an anticipated blast...which of course,
    never
    comes, because after all, it's only a recipe...but the whole flurry of
    activity has at the very least been amusing upon reflection...and then we
    move on.
    --
    Sherry
    364/315/195
    low carb since 4/3/05
    http://lowcarb.owly.net - NEW PICS 6/30 - NEW RECIPES 7/4

  14. "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So, in a support group for low-carb dieting, where some people have more
    experience than others, some have different experiences than others, you
    don't think we should share the opinions we've formed based on our
    experiences? I don't think anyone here said that fake bread causes
    issues for everyone. But just because it hasn't caused problems for
    you, do you think it's not going to cause problems for others? Or do
    you just think we should keep our mouths shut and not warn others that
    it could cause problems?

    What I think doesn't matter, I would never tell people to keep their mouths
    shut, or to open them for that matter. Or to eat - or not eat - any kind of
    food. And certainly the "what worked for me" posts have always been
    helpful...much moreso than the "this is what you have to eat" or the "this
    is what you can never eat" posts - and especially the "they don't know any
    better" posts. That a mere recipe would set off such a volley of shots is,
    well...it's usenet.

    Actually, looking back, maybe this was all a big Sunday funny. One person
    posts a recipe, and the ASDLC Usenet guard rushes out and throws their
    bodies over it to protect the others - who can't POSSIBLY know as much as
    they do! - from the threat of an anticipated blast...which of course, never
    comes, because after all, it's only a recipe...but the whole flurry of
    activity has at the very least been amusing upon reflection...and then we
    move on.
    --
    Sherry
    364/315/195
    low carb since 4/3/05
    http://lowcarb.owly.net - NEW PICS 6/30 - NEW RECIPES 7/4

  15. :
    : Actually, looking back, maybe this was all a big Sunday funny. One person
    : posts a recipe, and the ASDLC Usenet guard rushes out and throws their
    : bodies over it to protect the others - who can't POSSIBLY know as much as
    : they do! - from the threat of an anticipated blast...which of course,
    never
    : comes, because after all, it's only a recipe...but the whole flurry of
    : activity has at the very least been amusing upon reflection...and then we
    : move on.
    : --
    : Sherry

    I'm with ya, Sherry. Don't let the net nannies get you down. They DO know
    more than anyone else, right?

    Pat in TX

  16. You should see all the psychos I have to perform therapy on in the
    classroom...

    --

    Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

    --
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    You would make a good (albeit confrontational) psychotherapist, JC,
    if you would eliminate recommendations for suicide and restrain
    yourself from choke-slamming people.

    Depending on the context, below could be viewed as a "paradoxical
    technique."

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Sherry won't be with us much longer. She's already building up towards
    an
    excuse for leaving the group and gaining all her weight back. (and
    probably
    more)

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > So, in a support group for low-carb dieting, where some people have
    > more
    > experience than others, some have different experiences than others,
    > you
    > don't think we should share the opinions we've formed based on our
    > experiences? I don't think anyone here said that fake bread causes
    > issues for everyone. But just because it hasn't caused problems for
    > you, do you think it's not going to cause problems for others? Or do
    > you just think we should keep our mouths shut and not warn others that
    > it could cause problems?

    What I think doesn't matter, I would never tell people to keep their
    mouths
    shut, or to open them for that matter. Or to eat - or not eat - any
    kind
    of
    food. And certainly the "what worked for me" posts have always been
    helpful...much moreso than the "this is what you have to eat" or the
    "this
    is what you can never eat" posts - and especially the "they don't know
    any
    better" posts. That a mere recipe would set off such a volley of shots
    is,
    well...it's usenet.

    Actually, looking back, maybe this was all a big Sunday funny. One
    person
    posts a recipe, and the ASDLC Usenet guard rushes out and throws their
    bodies over it to protect the others - who can't POSSIBLY know as much
    as
    they do! - from the threat of an anticipated blast...which of course,
    never
    comes, because after all, it's only a recipe...but the whole flurry of
    activity has at the very least been amusing upon reflection...and then
    we
    move on.
    --
    Sherry
    364/315/195
    low carb since 4/3/05
    http://lowcarb.owly.net - NEW PICS 6/30 - NEW RECIPES 7/4


  17. Nicky said:

    Myra's recipe is tolerant to tweaking. I'm currently replacing the soy with
    a flaxseed / oat bran mix:

    Ack - I think I purged this recipe from my personal index!

    I have never made a low carb bread that satisfied me, so I just gave
    up trying.

    Good luck to anyone else, though.

    Myra

  18. I like the flatbread that sherry posted a few weeks ago.. 1 round replaced 2
    eggs and filled me up much more.. I actualy think if I make the dough again
    I could cut back to 1 egg and 1 round.

    Tori

    --
    Xavier- 10/27/05 "Oooohh whats that on the floor? a dime? Yummy!"
    Bonnie- 03/20/02 "Mommy look a cloud worm is eating the care bears"
    349.5/319/135
    "Myra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Nicky said:

    Myra's recipe is tolerant to tweaking. I'm currently replacing the soy


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a flaxseed / oat bran mix:

    Ack - I think I purged this recipe from my personal index!

    I have never made a low carb bread that satisfied me, so I just gave
    up trying.

    Good luck to anyone else, though.

    Myra

  19. Pat said:

    I don't believe in "carbohydrate addiction". That's a bunch of baloney!

    I don't believe in income taxes.

    Still exists, though.

    Do a Google search on my tribble theory.

    Myra

  20. : >
    : > I don't believe in "carbohydrate addiction". That's a bunch of baloney!
    : >
    : > Pat in TX
    :
    : As a medical concept, addiction leaves a lot to be desired.
    :
    : To be fair though, I think I've lost a lot of bad habits since I quit
    : doing carbs in any significant way.

    Taking care to eat low glycemic carbs or complex carbs for fuel is smart.
    Using the term "addiction" toward a basic food source is, in my opinion, an
    excuse. "I can't help myself! I'm addicted! Poor me! It's not my fault!"
    That's what I hear from people who use the term "carbohydrate addiction".

    Pat in TX
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