UCI Track Racing Bikes

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Have they got gears ?

nope. no brakes either. both are overrated anyway 8-)

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Have they got gears ?

Gear ratio? One at front, one at rear, connected by chain plus
crank/pedals, use real fast. As seen today by lots of over-excitable
types down at Vodaphone Arena.😄

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Have they got gears ?

yep, one.

Kazu said:

Have they got gears ?

1 "gear"

2 sprockets or cogs (1 front chainring, 1 rear cog)

Infinate speeds (just pedal slower or faster)

There is no freewheel ratchet mechanism like 'normal' bikes, so riders
cannot 'coast' on them. e.g. If the bike moves - so do the pedals.
Because of this, riders can slow down by slowing their pedaling speed or
applying slight back-pressure to the pedals.

How good is track racing?!?! Yeah! 😄

hth hippy

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Kazu said:

Have they got gears ?

1 "gear"

2 sprockets or cogs (1 front chainring, 1 rear cog)

Infinate speeds (just pedal slower or faster)

There is no freewheel ratchet mechanism like 'normal' bikes, so riders
cannot 'coast' on them. e.g. If the bike moves - so do the pedals.
Because of this, riders can slow down by slowing their pedaling speed
or applying slight back-pressure to the pedals.

At what age do their knees explode?

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Originally posted by Drs

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There is no freewheel ratchet mechanism like 'normal' bikes, so
riders cannot 'coast' on them. e.g. If the bike moves - so do the
pedals. Because of this, riders can slow down by slowing their
pedaling speed or applying slight back-pressure to the pedals.

At what age do their knees explode?

Well, track racing and fixies have been around a lot longer than multi-
geared bikes. I still see old timers riding (slowly) around town on
them. John Nicholson (previous World Champ?) was walking around
Vodaphone yesterday..

Better to sustain injury doing something you enjoy than live wrapped in
cotton wool, not doing anything for fear of getting hurt..

You could never ride a bike in your life and fall down the stairs one
day, destroying your knees..

hippy

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At what age do their knees explode?

It's a matter of changing your gearing to suit your knees and/or the race
you're in! You are able to change either the front chainring or the cog (or
both) to get a smaller or bigger gear.

Cheers
Gemma (50x15 is my favourite!)

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Originally posted by Gemma Kernich Cheers Gemma (50x15 is my
favourite!)

Damn! I only ride 49x16...

hippy

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hippy said:

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Originally posted by Gemma Kernich Cheers Gemma (50x15 is my
favourite!)

Damn! I only ride 49x16...
hippy

pfft. that's lightweight 😄

and there is no head wind and no gradient. Shame shame.

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pfft. that's lightweight 😄 and there is no head wind and no gradient.
Shame shame.

Yeah.. <hangs head>... but to come clean, I'm running that gear because
that was what was on the bike when I bought it and I've not had any
desire to change it. I've only got a limited selection of track gears
and figured I should learn on the smallest gear I owned. Since the
season ended before I really got into racing (got in a decent crash
though - still carry the marks...) I never started playing with gear
selection.

lame-o-excuso-hippy ;-)

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Originally posted by Gemma Kernich Cheers Gemma (50x15 is my
favourite!)

Damn! I only ride 49x16...

what???!! That's only an 82.7" (as opposed to my 90 dead 🙂 That's a warmup
gear :P Time for a new cog my son!
The biggest I've ridden is a 50x14 (96.4) in a motorpaced event, it felt
really good till the derny pulled off the track!
Gemma

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Originally posted by Gemma Kernich Cheers Gemma (50x15 is my
favourite!)

Damn! I only ride 49x16...

what???!! That's only an 82.7" (as opposed to my 90 dead 🙂 That's a warmup
gear :P Time for a new cog my son!
The biggest I've ridden is a 50x14 (96.4) in a motorpaced event, it felt
really good till the derny pulled off the track!
Gemma

pffft! 50x14? Was that a hillclimb Gemma? ;P

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Originally posted by Gemma Kernich

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Damn! I only ride 49x16...

what???!! That's only an 82.7" (as opposed to my 90 dead 🙂 That's a
warmup gear :P Time for a new cog my son! The biggest I've ridden is a
50x14 (96.4) in a motorpaced event, it felt really good till the derny
pulled off the track! Gemma

Awight grrl you're on! ;-)

<grunts><scowls><pretends to be Ryan Bayley/Sean Eadie>

Along with the piles of other track gear I'm in need of.. a MASSIVE gear
is added to the list :P

If we meet in a race, I'll fit it and hopefully my lardbutt will create
enough momentum rolling down the bank to wind it up before you destroy
me with an early jump! 🙂

DRS can film/photograph my knees exploding ;-)

hippy
- Who's got a spare 62T chainring lying around? 11T track cog?

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Originally posted by Gemma Kernich Cheers Gemma (50x15 is my
favourite!)

Damn! I only ride 49x16...

hippy

Hip,

All this talk about inches made me think to ask you what sort of gear you
have planned for the fixie? On mine I run a 76 (42x15) coupled to a
172.5mm crank arms which I find good for most stuff I do around Melbourne
metro area which includes, the occasional North Road Ride, South Morang to
Mordialloc and occasional rides to work. I tend not to ride this bike in
the wet as it does not have sealed bearings (Sealed bearing Suzue hubs with
lockring, sealed BB and Headset are coming soon). On the flat it's not
unreasonable to sit on 40km/h (cadence = 105rpm) and for the downhills
comfortably allows for around 50km/h (130rpm). This gear also works when
the road goes slightly upward and the longer cranks also help in this
department.

Some thing to be aware of when looking for cranks is your bottom bracket
height. If the cranks you chose are too long you will have a much reduced
pedal clearance when taking corners. You may need to look at something in
the 165-170 range if this is likely to be a problem.

Another piece of advice is to use a quality chainring. The rounder the
chainring the less likely you are to throw a chain. If the chainring is not
perfectly round then you will see the tension of the chain drop or increase
significantly as the cranks are turned. I'll leave it to your imagination
the potential carnage due throwing chain off the ring and it then becoming
stuck between the spider and the crankarm. This is probably more critical
when using a 3/32nd road chain setup as opposed to 1/8th track chain setup
as the former is laterally more flexible.

And when you finally get this beast of yours on the road head down to beach
road and jump into a pack. Besides the strange looks you'll get due to the
fact your bike is not like the other bikes you will also notice that on the
uphills you climb faster than the geared bikes despite your bike weight
being nearly twice the weight of the other bikes around it. And better
still you get to pedal for the whole ride.

Cheers
Geoff

btw. I have had a quick a look at your pics from the 2004 Madison Meet at
VA. I notice you got a few shots of me. Once I've had a better look I
might get some copies from you if that's ok.

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Originally posted by Gemma Kernich

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Damn! I only ride 49x16...

what???!! That's only an 82.7" (as opposed to my 90 dead 🙂 That's a
warmup gear :P Time for a new cog my son! The biggest I've ridden is a
50x14 (96.4) in a motorpaced event, it felt really good till the derny
pulled off the track! Gemma

Awight grrl you're on! ;-)

<grunts><scowls><pretends to be Ryan Bayley/Sean Eadie>

Along with the piles of other track gear I'm in need of.. a MASSIVE gear
is added to the list :P

If we meet in a race, I'll fit it and hopefully my lardbutt will create
enough momentum rolling down the bank to wind it up before you destroy
me with an early jump! 🙂

You a lard butt? And me with a 'jump' - unlikely! *grin* You aint seen me
yet..... I'll up the stakes now, after 8(!) years of posting here I'll
reveal myself 😉
To give you an idea of the size of me, I ride a 57cm....
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~gkernich/JCTDUwomens.JPG
Cheers
Gemma "I should charge for sponsors names to appear across the rear of my
shorts" Kernich

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Originally posted by Gemma Kernich
> Damn! I only ride 49x16...

what???!! That's only an 82.7" (as opposed to my 90 dead 🙂 That's a
warmup gear :P Time for a new cog my son! The biggest I've ridden is a
50x14 (96.4) in a motorpaced event, it felt really good till the derny
pulled off the track! Gemma

Awight grrl you're on! ;-)

<grunts><scowls><pretends to be Ryan Bayley/Sean Eadie>

Along with the piles of other track gear I'm in need of.. a MASSIVE gear
is added to the list :P

If we meet in a race, I'll fit it and hopefully my lardbutt will create
enough momentum rolling down the bank to wind it up before you destroy
me with an early jump! 🙂

You a lard butt? And me with a 'jump' - unlikely! *grin* You aint seen me
yet..... I'll up the stakes now, after 8(!) years of posting here I'll
reveal myself 😉
To give you an idea of the size of me, I ride a 57cm....
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~gkernich/JCTDUwomens.JPG
Cheers
Gemma "I should charge for sponsors names to appear across the rear of my
shorts" Kernich

Nice website Gemma. Very er.. minimalist. (in a zen type of way.)

This is my website. Needs some prettying up.
http://www.hyperactive.oz.nf/

Marty

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You a lard butt? And me with a 'jump' - unlikely! *grin* You aint
seen me yet..... I'll up the stakes now, after 8(!) years of posting
here I'll reveal myself 😉
To give you an idea of the size of me, I ride a 57cm....
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~gkernich/JCTDUwomens.JPG
Cheers
Gemma "I should charge for sponsors names to appear across the rear
of my shorts" Kernich

That's a nice photo but do you realise that jpegs don't have to weigh as
much as your bum?

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You a lard butt? And me with a 'jump' - unlikely! *grin* You aint
seen me yet..... I'll up the stakes now, after 8(!) years of posting
here I'll reveal myself 😉
To give you an idea of the size of me, I ride a 57cm....
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~gkernich/JCTDUwomens.JPG
Cheers
Gemma "I should charge for sponsors names to appear across the rear
of my shorts" Kernich

That's a nice photo but do you realise that jpegs don't have to weigh as
much as your bum?

yeah yeah 😉
When I have a sec I will fix it, I promise! (The jpg that is, my bum has
taken years of cultivation and isn't going away anytime soon 🙂
Only knocked up that 'minimalist' page last night, haven't written html in
many moons, most of it isn't working yet, too many typos.
Gemm

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Originally posted by Geoff All this talk about inches made me think to
ask you what sort of gear you have planned for the fixie? On mine I run
a 76 (42x15) coupled to a 172.5mm crank arms which I find good for most
stuff I do around Melbourne metro area which

I was going to see what's available and pick something in the
lower/middle range. 63xc guys suggest high 60's or low 70's but that's
probably for offroad fixie riding and might be too low?

The SS is 32:15 with 175mm cranks and 26" wheels w/ slicks. I find
myself spinning out quite and bit and it really needs to be geared
higher, but I like it on those days when I'm really tired (often).

I got a new fastest cadence the other day on it: 34 x 6.. um.. racks
notoriously slow brain.. 204bpm 🙂 Cracked 200! I want a cadence
computer though, for an official reading. I find it really hard to
actually count as fast as I can pedal!

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You may need to look at something in the 165-170 range if this is
likely to be a problem.

I wanted to fit 165mm to match my track setup.

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Another piece of advice is to use a quality chainring. The rounder the
chainring the less likely you are to throw a chain. If the chainring is
not perfectly round then you will see the tension of the chain drop or
increase significantly as the cranks are turned. I'll leave it to your
imagination the potential carnage due throwing chain off the ring and
it then becoming stuck between the spider and the crankarm.

Damn my imagination! Sounds painful.. 🙂 I will have to start trying to
skid the bike as soon as it's built for handling these emergency
situations.. mmm skids..

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And when you finally get this beast of yours on the road head down to
beach road and jump into a pack. Besides the strange looks you'll get
due to the fact your bike is not like the other bikes you will also
notice that on the uphills you climb faster than the geared bikes
despite your

Strange looks are good 🙂

I -have- heard that fixies climb faster than gearies.. I like the sound
of that! If I have juice in my legs I often beat (slower) roadies up
hills on my commute on the SS because they gear too easy or too hard for
the climbs.

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I have had a quick a look at your pics from the 2004 Madison Meet at
VA. I notice you got a few shots of me. Once I've had a better look I
might get some copies from you if that's ok.

Cool. I've also got some shots from Sunday's Track Worlds that will go
up when I have, I mean, when I -make- time..

hippy

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