Prat Warning

in message <[email hidden]>, Graeme

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Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote in news:t3sep1-
0u2.ln1 @gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk:

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You mean 'Perceived Order of Social Hierarchy', surely?

Is that one of the explanations for the origin of "posh"?

No, it's one I made up on the spur of the moment.

Quoted message said:

The one I've heard many times is that it was to do with
P&O cruises travelling past somewhere (in the Med I think)
which one side of the boat (port) had a good view on the
way out and the other side (starboard) had the good view
on the way back, i.e. port out, starboard home.

That's the only one I've ever heard, too.

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in message <[email hidden]>, Graeme

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Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote in news:lrrep1-
0u2.ln1 @gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk:

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There was a publican of a drinking dive in the West Bow
in my youth who drove around in a white Ferrari with the
registration number '50BER'

I remember that one (which wasn't *that* long ago, I hope
you're fairly young Simon). Apparently he (or a subsequent
owner) sold the registration as he was sick of getting
pulled over by the police to be breathalysed.

He might conceivably have had it a long time. I last lived
in Edinburgh in 1976, but I think I remember the Ferrari
from around 1972, when I was one of a group producing an
'underground' magazine, and hawking it round the pubs.

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Mark South <[email hidden]> wrote:

: There is no problem with the flag per se.

I dunno. I always get very wary when big groups of blokes
get very patriotic myself. But I'm Irish, what would I know?

: White van Bad. White van flying flag Worse.

Seen on the way to work today - mum taking kid to school on
a trailer bike (little boy - 7-8 ish?). Big St. George's
Cross on the trailer bike 🙂

Arthur

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Simon Brooke said:

Mind you, in the same period one of Edinburgh's drug squad
drove arounf in a convertible white Triumph Vitesse with a
pink flying pig painted on each door. As the car was
exceedingly well known it scarcely counted as 'plain
clothes'.

Thank you, Simon. Please send new keyboard to:

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Simon Brooke said:

Quoted message said:

Mind you, in the same period one of Edinburgh's drug squad
drove arounf in a convertible white Triumph Vitesse with a
pink flying pig painted on each door. As the car was
exceedingly well known it scarcely counted as 'plain
clothes'.

and Dave Larrington responded:

Quoted message said:

Thank you, Simon. Please send new keyboard to:

Quite. Perhaps it indicates that I'm spending too much time
on urc when someone describes a car that then appears in my
dreams that night.

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Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote in news:857gp1-k44.ln1
@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk:

Quoted message said:

He might conceivably have had it a long time. I last lived
in Edinburgh in 1976, but I think I remember the Ferrari
from around 1972, when I was one of a group producing an
'underground' magazine, and hawking it round the pubs.

Ah, so you are old ;-) I last remember seeing it in the
early/mid nineties. (can't remember what vehicle it was
attached to, nothing particularly memorable obviously). I
was never around the centre of town much after that so it
may still be kicking about.

Graeme

Graeme said:

Is that one of the explanations for the origin of "posh"?
The one I've heard many times is that it was to do with
P&O cruises travelling past somewhere (in the Med I think)
which one side of the boat (port) had a good view on the
way out and the other side (starboard) had the good view
on the way back, i.e. port out, starboard home.

The one wot I heard ran thusly: If you were a wealthy toff
travelling from the BRITONS' England to Indiah, where the
Tigers come from, then having one's cabin on the port side
of the ship placed it away from the midday sun, thus
rendering it cooler and less likely to be invaded by Mad
Dogs. And vice-versa upon the return journey.

Wordorigins.org maintains that "This etymology of 'posh' is
probably incorrect, but its origin is somewhat in doubt."

Wikipedia.org sez: "However extensive searching of shipping
company records and tickets from that period has failed to
reveal any evidence for this claim. The fact that this folk
etymology is only recorded 17 years after the term's
earliest known appearance (in the 25th September 1918 issue
of Punch) also lends weight to the theory that this
etymology is apocryphal."

So:

horse, albeit plausible horse. My friend M. Smautf, a well-
read and raddled posho himself, maintains:

slang for 'dandy' (1890) from meaning 'money' (1830)
originally 'coin of small value, halfpenny', possibly from
the Romany posh meaning 'half'.

But then again, he also maintains that Maffeo Barberini (1568-
1644) was made entirely of salmon.

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In message <[email hidden]>,
Simonb <[email hidden]> writes

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Simon Brooke said:

And the blue lights under the car to illuminate the road
surface. _Most_ necessary.

I saw 'XR3i' in big, white, 20cm letters on a _windscreen_
the other day.

Remind me of the old joke:

What's the difference between a Hedgehog and an XR3i?

With the XR3i the [censored] are on the inside.
--
John B Wilkinson

In article <[email hidden]>,

Morton Burner said:

Now the lighter nights are here, we no longer have the
luxury of "Prat-Warning Lights" (i,e. always-on fog-
lights) to alert us to the approaching Prat.

The sainted Colin Schiller wrote in ``Which [Motor] Bike?''
magazine in the mid-eighties that if you see a car in which
all the occupants are wearing hats, you should immediately
pull over to the side of the road. And isn't that just as
true today, laygennulmen?

ian

John B Wilkinson said:

In message <[email hidden]>,
Simonb <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Simon Brooke said:

And the blue lights under the car to illuminate the road
surface. _Most_ necessary.

I saw 'XR3i' in big, white, 20cm letters on a _windscreen_
the other day.

Remind me of the old joke:

What's the difference between a Hedgehog and an XR3i?

With the XR3i the [censored] are on the inside.

No, the joke predates XR3i's. It used to be a 'police car'.
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himself, he is the cause of dullness in others." -Samuel
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 19:35:03 GMT someone who may be Simon Brooke
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

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<macenroe> You _cannot_ be serious! </macenroe>

Please say you're not!

Sadly I am. news.bbc.co.uk919030.stmOpen ↗

As I understand it [1] the "human rights" case has not been
heard and is now unlikely to be heard as Lafarge claim to
have dropped the idea.

In parallel with the "human rights" case there was also a
"planning" case. Lafarge lost this in January
news.bbc.co.uk3383515.stmOpen ↗ and it
appears that this caused them to retire
news.bbc.co.uk3594229.stmOpen ↗.

[1] My knowledge of the issue is very limited.

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In message <[email hidden]>, Ian G Batten
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Morton

Burner said:

Now the lighter nights are here, we no longer have the
luxury of "Prat-Warning Lights" (i,e. always-on fog-
lights) to alert us to the approaching Prat.

The sainted Colin Schiller wrote in ``Which [Motor] Bike?''
magazine in the mid-eighties that if you see a car in which
all the occupants are wearing hats, you should immediately
pull over to the side of the road. And isn't that just as
true today, laygennulmen?

Especially trilby's. This was the mark of the complete prat
in the 60's when people still wore hats.

Equivalent to 4+ flags today
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John B Wilkinson

David Hansen said:

As I understand it [1] the "human rights" case has not
been heard and is now unlikely to be heard as Lafarge
claim to have dropped the idea.

In parallel with the "human rights" case there was also a
"planning" case. Lafarge lost this in January
news.bbc.co.uk3383515.stmOpen ↗ and it
appears that this caused them to retire
news.bbc.co.uk3594229.stmOpen ↗.

It's not just this side of the pond. An idiot judge in the
US a brace of centuries ago declared that a corporation had
the rights of an individual.

R.

John B Wilkinson said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Ian G
Batten
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, The
sainted Colin Schiller wrote in ``Which [Motor] Bike?''
magazine in the mid-eighties that if you see a car in
which all the occupants are wearing hats, you should
immediately pull over to the side of the road. And isn't
that just as true today, laygennulmen?

Especially trilby's. This was the mark of the complete
prat in the 60's when people still wore hats.

Equivalent to 4+ flags today

I think I may have mentioned earlier the Burberry-pattern
baseball-stylee cap - chavscum.co.ukhowto.htmlOpen ↗
Just say "no", kids.

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"Dave Larrington" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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1 - astonishment subsequently decreased after witnessing a
different Mrs. Prat asking the cashier in my local
Sainsbury's whether they sold Prat-Flags. Mercifully, they
did not.

A lot of people here seem to have real problems with the
English flag. Why is that?

Morton Burner said:

Now the lighter nights are here, we no longer have the
luxury of "Prat-Warning Lights" (i,e. always-on fog-
lights) to alert us to the approaching Prat. Fortunately,
this year, someone has introduced a quantitative Prat-
Warning system, involving flags of St. George. One flag
signifies mild Prattism, say, 25% Prat; 2 flags leaps the
prat factor to 75%. You never see three. Four plus
indicates Prat factor 13.7, or 100% plus. It's nice of
them to wear their Prat indicator so prominently.

Each flag is probably made from 2 L-plates, discarded upon
each driving test failure.