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  1. My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week will be a loss. My leader at my
    meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it is probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155
    anyway. I put my measurements into a site that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic"
    category at 19. something percent body fat. I am going to quit trying to lose more and just
    concentrate on staying in the high one fifties, y Ya as they say here

  2. Lesanne:

    High 150s sounds like a good weight goal to me. WTG Lesanne!!

    --

    Cheers,

    Connie Walsh

    241.5/205/155 RAFL 210.5/205/198.5

    Lesanne said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week will be a loss. My leader at
    my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it is probably not realistic for me to try to get to
    155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic"
    category at 19. something percent body fat. I am going to quit trying to lose more and just
    concentrate on staying in the high one fifties, y Ya as they say here

  3. A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).

    Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????

    What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?

    And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"

    Lesanne said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week will be a loss. My leader at
    my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it is probably not realistic for me to try to get to
    155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic"
    category at 19. something percent body fat. I am going to quit trying to lose more and just
    concentrate on staying in the high one fifties, y Ya as they say here

  4. And you know what, the fact that you quit wanting to lose to 155 might make you go there.
    --
    Nathalie from Belgium
    134.1/101.4/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
    134.1/101.5/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds RAFL 105.3/101.4/96 Kg
    134/1.102/212 lbs "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week will be a loss. My leader at
    my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it is probably not realistic for me to try to get to
    155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic"
    category at 19. something percent body fat. I am going to quit trying to lose more and just
    concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:

    y Ya as they say here

  5. On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    If you feel good stay where you are. Unrealistic goals that are impossible to attain just wreck self-
    esteem. You've come a very long way, and you need to be proud of your accomplishments. A BF of 19 is
    AMAZING!!! You're my hero!

    Lynne

    Quoted message said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week will be a loss. My leader at
    my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it is probably not realistic for me to try to get to
    155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic"
    category at 19. something percent body fat. I am going to quit trying to lose more and just
    concentrate on staying in the high one fifties, y Ya as they say here

  6. Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats it", that kind of thing. I am a
    happy camper my own scale is back to 157 this morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic
    because of my muscle mass, and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am done.
    Also, I do still have enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has done a fabulous job of
    shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And the way I tend to get Ferociously hungry and
    feel weak when I try to get below where I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I
    began weightlifting while I was still in the mid 250's and I was not dieting at the time. I have
    lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still clearly see quite a bit of it here and there,
    particularly in my quads and my

    failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me (lets not get too specific) still
    has two rather large weights that I don't care to totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y Ya.
    Gonna stick as close to 157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but whatever. She
    thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.

    🙂 Lesanne
    365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).

    Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????

    What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?

    And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"

    Lesanne said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week


    will

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site that
    Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body fat. I am
    going to


    quit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    y Ya as they say here

  7. It could happen, got back to 157.5 this morning. 🙂

    "Nathalie W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:

    And you know what, the fact that you quit wanting to lose to 155 might


    make

    Quoted message said:

    you go there.
    --
    Nathalie from Belgium
    134.1/101.4/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
    295.6/223.5/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds RAFL 105.3/101.4/96 Kg
    232/223.5/212 lbs "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week


    will

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
    that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body fat.
    I am going to


    quit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:

    y Ya as they say here


  8. I am a happy camper this morning. I think that history does make some
    difference. I used to be quite happy at 200 and thought I would stay there.
    Compared to 365, it was truly much better. Compared to now, no contest. I
    really think I need to accept this as the spot and learn to modify the mood
    swings instead of my size
    "Lynne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    If you feel good stay where you are. Unrealistic goals that are impossible to attain just wreck
    self-esteem. You've come a very long way, and you need to be proud of your accomplishments. A BF
    of 19 is AMAZING!!! You're my hero!

    Lynne

    Quoted message said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week


    will

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site that
    Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body fat. I am
    going to


    quit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    y Ya as they say here

  9. Wow Lesanne, sometimes those other indicators tell us much more than just the number seen on the
    scale. Being considered *athletic* is wonderful! I checked the website out, found out I am
    *acceptable* according to his little quiz. I'm not sure if there would be any difference in the
    reading since it currently is TOM (ugh!) and chinese dinner last night. <G> Regardless, there was
    something else there that opened my eyes up a bit more ... acceptable weight ... 129-158. So why
    should I keep hoping for 125? Like you, I think I'm going to quit worrying about the possibility of
    seeing the 120's again and work on staying in the low to mid 130's. And work on that body fat that
    just won't go away. <G>

    Congrats on your new and fit body. You've come a long way!!!

    Joyce

    Lesanne said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week will be a loss. My leader at
    my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it is probably not realistic for me to try to get to
    155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic"
    category at 19. something percent body fat. I am going to quit trying to lose more and just
    concentrate on staying in the high one fifties, y Ya as they say here

  10. Interesting info. All of it including Bob Greene forcing you to make a choice (G)

    Now, how do you pronounce Y Ya?

    I think the famished is probably a good indication that the body needs more food. But then again,
    I would have said that at a HIGHER weight since I still somewhat believe those damn little fat
    cells are secreting hormones demanding to be fed again!!!?????? That would cause the resultant
    demand for food????

    I'm in hover mode now - up a fraction, down a fraction. I like it here, too just around 158 or so.
    At least, the way I feel biking and skiing....

    Sardines (second course) are calling....

    Lesanne said:

    Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats it", that kind of thing. I am
    a happy camper my own scale is back to 157 this morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic
    because of my muscle mass, and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am done.
    Also, I do still have enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has done a fabulous job of
    shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And the way I tend to get Ferociously hungry and
    feel weak when I try to get below where I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I
    began weightlifting while I was still in the mid 250's and I was not dieting at the time. I have
    lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still clearly see quite a bit of it here and there,
    particularly in my quads and my

    Quoted message said:

    failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me (lets not get too specific) still
    has two rather large weights that I don't care to totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y
    Ya. Gonna stick as close to 157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but
    whatever. She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.

    🙂 Lesanne
    365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).

    Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????

    What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?

    And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"

    Lesanne said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week


    will

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
    that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body fat.
    I am going to


    quit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    y Ya as they say here


  11. Modifying my size is proving to be MUCH easier than modifying my mood swings. When you get that one
    figured out, let us know.

    In the meantime, I'm carrying on with strength training and aerobic exercise. Activity seems to
    fatigue Sybil/Eve/Jasmine/Tawanda/et al. It hasn't been this quiet in a long time. LOL

    Prairie Roots

    Lesanne said:

    I am a happy camper this morning. I think that history does make some difference. I used to be
    quite happy at 200 and thought I would stay there. Compared to 365, it was truly much better.
    Compared to now, no contest. I really think I need to accept this as the spot and learn to modify
    the mood swings instead of my size "Lynne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    If you feel good stay where you are. Unrealistic goals that are impossible to attain just wreck
    self-esteem. You've come a very long way, and you need to be proud of your accomplishments. A BF
    of 19 is AMAZING!!! You're my hero!

    Lynne

    Quoted message said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week


    will

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
    that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body fat.
    I am going to


    quit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    y Ya as they say here


  12. Thanks Joyce. I know muscle weighs. And Burns calories. I have slender "bones" but long ones? My
    hands are larger than almost any woman I know, but I have a tiny wrist measurement. It is hard to
    use many of the indicators of frame size. And taller women don't fit right into the recommended
    averages as far as calorie consumption goes either. I am religiously logging every bite right now
    into diet power to see what my metabolic rate is, and at this moment it is telling me I am burning
    2300 calories a day. I expect that to come down some when I stay at a stable weight for a couple of
    weeks. I don't even Want to eat that much. It is reacting right now to me losing from that evil one
    six place.

    I think you are at a great weight, now build some muscles and those will burn off any tummy fat that
    is hanging around 🙂. "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Wow Lesanne, sometimes those other indicators tell us much more than just


    the

    Quoted message said:

    number seen on the scale. Being considered *athletic* is wonderful! I


    checked

    Quoted message said:

    the website out, found out I am *acceptable* according to his little quiz.


    I'm

    Quoted message said:

    not sure if there would be any difference in the reading since it


    currently is TOM

    Quoted message said:

    (ugh!) and chinese dinner last night. <G> Regardless, there was something


    else

    Quoted message said:

    there that opened my eyes up a bit more ... acceptable weight ... 129-158.


    So why

    Quoted message said:

    should I keep hoping for 125? Like you, I think I'm going to quit


    worrying about

    Quoted message said:

    the possibility of seeing the 120's again and work on staying in the low


    to mid

    Quoted message said:

    130's. And work on that body fat that just won't go away. <G>

    Congrats on your new and fit body. You've come a long way!!!

    Joyce

    Lesanne said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week


    will

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site that
    Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body fat. I am
    going to


    quit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    y Ya as they say here

  13. LOL, Lee, who relates
    Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Modifying my size is proving to be MUCH easier than modifying my mood swings. When you get that
    one figured out, let us know.

    In the meantime, I'm carrying on with strength training and aerobic exercise. Activity seems to
    fatigue Sybil/Eve/Jasmine/Tawanda/et al. It hasn't been this quiet in a long time. LOL

    Prairie Roots

    Lesanne said:

    I am a happy camper this morning. I think that history does make some difference. I used to be
    quite happy at 200 and thought I would stay


    there.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Compared to 365, it was truly much better. Compared to now, no contest.


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    really think I need to accept this as the spot and learn to modify the


    mood

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    swings instead of my size "Lynne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    If you feel good stay where you are. Unrealistic goals that are impossible to attain just wreck
    self-esteem. You've come a very long way, and you need to be proud of your accomplishments. A
    BF of 19 is AMAZING!!! You're my hero!

    Lynne

    >My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week


    will

    Quoted message said:

    >be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is

    Quoted message said:

    >probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
    >that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
    >fat. I am going to


    quit

    Quoted message said:

    >trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:

    >y Ya as they say here
    >

  14. oh man, what a great breakfast, oatmeal and sardines. I love sardines, but
    with onion (iced) and ak mak crackers. Bob did not force me, but it did
    give me another opinion. And it kind of agrees with all the people who see
    me. Nobody is encouraging me to lose any more, even my thin women friends
    have all said Stop. The ones that used to look at me like I was nuts when I
    wanted to stop at 200 and 180 etc. I get hungry when I overeat, but it is a
    different hungry than the hungry that shows up when I hit 156. THAT is an
    eat the paint off the walls, dizzy spells kind of hungry. And I do want to
    try and build up my upper body strength to where it was when I started this,
    which may call for more food. I know I am most likely to get dizzy/hungry
    days when I do a real lively weights workout, and have the lower end of my
    weight range.
    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Interesting info. All of it including Bob Greene forcing you to make a choice (G)

    Now, how do you pronounce Y Ya?

    I think the famished is probably a good indication that the body needs more food. But then again,
    I would have said that at a HIGHER weight since I still somewhat believe those damn little fat
    cells are secreting hormones demanding to be fed again!!!?????? That would cause the resultant
    demand for food????

    I'm in hover mode now - up a fraction, down a fraction. I like it here, too just around 158 or so.
    At least, the way I feel biking and skiing....

    Sardines (second course) are calling....

    Lesanne said:

    Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats it", that kind of thing. I
    am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157 this morning. The leader thinks 155 is not
    realistic because of my muscle


    mass,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am done. Also, I do still have
    enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has


    done a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And the


    way

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get below


    where

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was still
    in the mid 250's and I was not dieting at the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you
    can still clearly see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my
    shoulders. Bob Greene uses height, age, weight, waist measurement and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me (lets


    not

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't care to totally lose, they give
    the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as close


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but whatever. She thinks the 164 goal
    is good. But I am not going there.

    🙂 Lesanne
    365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).

    Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????

    What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?

    And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"

    On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week


    will

    Quoted message said:

    >be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is

    Quoted message said:

    >probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
    >that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
    >fat. I am going to


    quit

    Quoted message said:

    >trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:

    >y Ya as they say here
    >

  15. THIS is So True. Everyone is yammering away today after 3 days off my exercise program.... But the
    cold is Way better.

    "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Modifying my size is proving to be MUCH easier than modifying my mood swings. When you get that
    one figured out, let us know.

    In the meantime, I'm carrying on with strength training and aerobic exercise. Activity seems to
    fatigue Sybil/Eve/Jasmine/Tawanda/et al. It hasn't been this quiet in a long time. LOL

    Prairie Roots

    Lesanne said:

    I am a happy camper this morning. I think that history does make some difference. I used to be
    quite happy at 200 and thought I would stay


    there.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Compared to 365, it was truly much better. Compared to now, no contest.


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    really think I need to accept this as the spot and learn to modify the


    mood

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    swings instead of my size "Lynne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    If you feel good stay where you are. Unrealistic goals that are impossible to attain just wreck
    self-esteem. You've come a very long way, and you need to be proud of your accomplishments. A
    BF of 19 is AMAZING!!! You're my hero!

    Lynne

    >My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week


    will

    Quoted message said:

    >be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is

    Quoted message said:

    >probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
    >that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
    >fat. I am going to


    quit

    Quoted message said:

    >trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:

    >y Ya as they say here
    >

  16. Lesanne:

    What is the Bob Greene site?

    Connie

    Lesanne said:

    Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats it", that kind of thing. I am
    a happy camper my own scale is back to 157 this morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic
    because of my muscle mass, and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am done.
    Also, I do still have enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has done a fabulous job of
    shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And the way I tend to get Ferociously hungry and
    feel weak when I try to get below where I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I
    began weightlifting while I was still in the mid 250's and I was not dieting at the time. I have
    lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still clearly see quite a bit of it here and there,
    particularly in my quads and my

    Quoted message said:

    failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me (lets not get too specific) still
    has two rather large weights that I don't care to totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y
    Ya. Gonna stick as close to 157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but
    whatever. She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.

    🙂 Lesanne
    365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).

    Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????

    What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?

    And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"

    Lesanne said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week



    will

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it



    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site that
    Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body fat. I am
    going to



    quit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one



    fifties,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    y Ya as they say here


    --

    Cheers,

    Connie Walsh

    241.5/205/155 RAFL 210.5/205/198.5

  17. I love your attitude.

    LOL

    Debbie

    "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats it", that kind of thing. I am
    a happy camper my own scale is back to 157 this morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic
    because of my muscle


    mass,

    Quoted message said:

    and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am done. Also, I do still have
    enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has done


    a

    Quoted message said:

    fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And the


    way

    Quoted message said:

    I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get below


    where

    Quoted message said:

    I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was still
    in the mid 250's and I was not dieting at the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you
    can still clearly see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my

    Quoted message said:

    failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me (lets


    not

    Quoted message said:

    get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't care to totally lose, they give
    the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as close


    to

    Quoted message said:

    157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but whatever. She thinks the 164 goal
    is good. But I am not going there.

    🙂 Lesanne
    365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).

    Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????

    What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?

    And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"

    Lesanne said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week


    will

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
    that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
    fat. I am going to


    quit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    y Ya as they say here


  18. getwiththeprogram.comgetwiththeprogram.com I hope ;0

    "Connie" <walshclan@nospam_primus.ca> wrote in message news:4026A3B7.6020000@nospam_primus.ca...

    Quoted message said:

    Lesanne:

    What is the Bob Greene site?

    Connie

    Lesanne said:

    Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats


    it",

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that kind of thing. I am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic because of my muscle


    mass,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am done. Also, I do still have
    enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has


    done a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And the


    way

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get below


    where

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was still
    in the mid 250's and I was not dieting


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still


    clearly

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my shoulders. Bob Greene uses
    height, age, weight, waist measurement and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me (lets


    not

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't care


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as


    close to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but


    whatever.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.

    🙂 Lesanne
    365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).

    Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????

    What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?

    And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"

    On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week


    will

    Quoted message said:

    >be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it


    is

    Quoted message said:

    >probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
    >that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
    >fat. I am going to


    quit

    Quoted message said:

    >trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:

    >y Ya as they say here
    >

    --

    Cheers,

    Connie Walsh

    241.5/205/155 RAFL 210.5/205/198.5

  19. hehe good one

    "Deb in Northern California" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:M9Cdnazz9Y-eWLvdRVn-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I love your attitude.

    minimal.

    Quoted message said:

    LOL

    Debbie

    "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats


    it",

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that kind of thing. I am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic because of my muscle


    mass,

    Quoted message said:

    and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am done. Also, I do still have
    enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has


    done

    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And the


    way

    Quoted message said:

    I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get below


    where

    Quoted message said:

    I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was still
    in the mid 250's and I was not dieting


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still


    clearly

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my shoulders. Bob Greene uses
    height, age, weight, waist measurement and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me (lets


    not

    Quoted message said:

    get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't care


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as


    close

    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:

    157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but


    whatever.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.

    🙂 Lesanne
    365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).

    Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????

    What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?

    And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"

    On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week


    will

    Quoted message said:

    >be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is

    Quoted message said:

    >probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
    >that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
    >fat. I am going to


    quit

    Quoted message said:

    >trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:

    >y Ya as they say here
    >



  20. Now this I find really bizarre. I enter the exact same stats but use minimal for

    get slammed with 25.3%. Why the huge difference? I know women carry more natural fatty tissue, but
    c'mon - I find it pretty dang hard to believe there is THAT much of a difference. And what if you
    fall somewhere in between? Like I swear I was supposed to be born a male, but came out a female ...
    super wide shoulders, monkey arms (really need more of a mens sizing shirts as womens are too short
    in length and sleeve length, and too narrow in the shoulders). And vice versa ... I know a few men
    whose bone/body structure is actually more feminine than my own. <G>

    I have what I think of as a normal wrist measurement, but according to charts it puts me right on
    the edge of medium/large framed (6.5 inches) - and my wrist bone really sticks out! I also seem to
    be blessed with those longer hands - probably not as long as yours, but not near as tiny as my
    *petite* daughter ... who happens to be only 1 inch shorter than me. So where do those of us
    *tweeners* fall? Or is this just another one of those *take your best guess* type of things?

    One of these days I am going to get out and buy those weights, just have some other [censored] to
    straighten out first. I do have quite a bit of muscle, always have, probably always will ... just
    not as much as I'd like. <G> I think I need to build the muscles in the stomach area - everything
    else is doin' pretty well. <G> And yikes ... if I lose more in any area - will it mean going down to
    even smaller sizes? I'm in some 6's, some 8's ... depending ... pants already - and those 6's tend
    to be pretty hard to find.

    I have no idea as to what calorie count I should be consuming - think my daily trends tend to
    flucuate way too much right now to even try and figure it out. I may just have to take a stab at the
    program you like ... is always fun to play with new things. <G>

    Joyce

    Lesanne said:

    Thanks Joyce. I know muscle weighs. And Burns calories. I have slender "bones" but long ones? My
    hands are larger than almost any woman I know, but I have a tiny wrist measurement. It is hard to
    use many of the indicators of frame size. And taller women don't fit right into the recommended
    averages as far as calorie consumption goes either. I am religiously logging every bite right now
    into diet power to see what my metabolic rate is, and at this moment it is telling me I am burning
    2300 calories a day. I expect that to come down some when I stay at a stable weight for a couple of
    weeks. I don't even Want to eat that much. It is reacting right now to me losing from that evil one
    six place.

    I think you are at a great weight, now build some muscles and those will burn off any tummy fat
    that is hanging around 🙂. "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Wow Lesanne, sometimes those other indicators tell us much more than just


    the

    Quoted message said:

    number seen on the scale. Being considered *athletic* is wonderful! I


    checked

    Quoted message said:

    the website out, found out I am *acceptable* according to his little quiz.


    I'm

    Quoted message said:

    not sure if there would be any difference in the reading since it


    currently is TOM

    Quoted message said:

    (ugh!) and chinese dinner last night. <G> Regardless, there was something


    else

    Quoted message said:

    there that opened my eyes up a bit more ... acceptable weight ... 129-158.


    So why

    Quoted message said:

    should I keep hoping for 125? Like you, I think I'm going to quit


    worrying about

    Quoted message said:

    the possibility of seeing the 120's again and work on staying in the low


    to mid

    Quoted message said:

    130's. And work on that body fat that just won't go away. <G>

    Congrats on your new and fit body. You've come a long way!!!

    Joyce

    Lesanne said:

    My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week


    will

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
    that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body fat.
    I am going to


    quit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one


    fifties,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    y Ya as they say here


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