RAFL Oh whatever

You know if they ever call you for jury duty you could serve all alone (sort of!) (G)

Prairie Roots said:

Modifying my size is proving to be MUCH easier than modifying my mood swings. When you get that one
figured out, let us know.

In the meantime, I'm carrying on with strength training and aerobic exercise. Activity seems to
fatigue Sybil/Eve/Jasmine/Tawanda/et al. It hasn't been this quiet in a long time. LOL

Prairie Roots

Lesanne said:

I am a happy camper this morning. I think that history does make some difference. I used to be
quite happy at 200 and thought I would stay there. Compared to 365, it was truly much better.
Compared to now, no contest. I really think I need to accept this as the spot and learn to modify
the mood swings instead of my size "Lynne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

If you feel good stay where you are. Unrealistic goals that are impossible to attain just wreck
self-esteem. You've come a very long way, and you need to be proud of your accomplishments. A BF
of 19 is AMAZING!!! You're my hero!

Lynne

>My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week

will

Quoted message said:

>be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it

is

Quoted message said:

>probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>fat. I am going to

quit

Quoted message said:

>trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one

fifties,

Quoted message said:

>y Ya as they say here
>

Well if you Were M, then that would be a very small WAIST measurement that you had there. This thing
is using that tool the docs' came up with a couple of years ago using the waist measurement to
figure cardiac risk factors? The ole apple shaped thing? I am going to go see what I come out with
if I go minimal...

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Now this I find really bizarre. I enter the exact same stats but use

minimal for

thing and

Quoted message said:

get slammed with 25.3%. Why the huge difference? I know women carry more

natural

Quoted message said:

fatty tissue, but c'mon - I find it pretty dang hard to believe there is

THAT much

Quoted message said:

of a difference. And what if you fall somewhere in between? Like I swear

I was

Quoted message said:

supposed to be born a male, but came out a female ... super wide

shoulders, monkey

Quoted message said:

arms (really need more of a mens sizing shirts as womens are too short in

length

Quoted message said:

and sleeve length, and too narrow in the shoulders). And vice versa ... I

know a

Quoted message said:

few men whose bone/body structure is actually more feminine than my own.

<G>

Quoted message said:

I have what I think of as a normal wrist measurement, but according to

charts it

Quoted message said:

puts me right on the edge of medium/large framed (6.5 inches) - and my

wrist bone

Quoted message said:

really sticks out! I also seem to be blessed with those longer hands -

probably

Quoted message said:

not as long as yours, but not near as tiny as my *petite* daughter ... who

happens

Quoted message said:

to be only 1 inch shorter than me. So where do those of us *tweeners*

fall? Or

Quoted message said:

is this just another one of those *take your best guess* type of things?

One of these days I am going to get out and buy those weights, just have

some

Quoted message said:

other [censored] to straighten out first. I do have quite a bit of muscle,

always have,

Quoted message said:

probably always will ... just not as much as I'd like. <G> I think I need

to

Quoted message said:

build the muscles in the stomach area - everything else is doin' pretty

well. <G>

Quoted message said:

And yikes ... if I lose more in any area - will it mean going down to even

smaller

Quoted message said:

sizes? I'm in some 6's, some 8's ... depending ... pants already - and

those 6's

Quoted message said:

tend to be pretty hard to find.

I have no idea as to what calorie count I should be consuming - think my

daily

Quoted message said:

trends tend to flucuate way too much right now to even try and figure it

out. I

Quoted message said:

may just have to take a stab at the program you like ... is always fun to

play

Quoted message said:

with new things. <G>

Joyce

Lesanne said:

Thanks Joyce. I know muscle weighs. And Burns calories. I have slender "bones" but long ones? My
hands are larger than almost any woman I know, but I have a tiny wrist measurement. It is hard to
use many of the indicators of frame size. And taller women don't fit right into the recommended
averages as far as calorie consumption goes either. I am religiously logging every bite right now
into diet power to see what my metabolic rate is, and at this moment it is telling me I am
burning 2300 calories a day. I expect that to come down some when I stay at a stable weight for a
couple of weeks. I don't even Want to eat that much. It is reacting right now to me losing from
that evil one six place.

I think you are at a great weight, now build some muscles and those will burn off any tummy fat
that is hanging around 🙂. "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Wow Lesanne, sometimes those other indicators tell us much more than

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the

Quoted message said:

number seen on the scale. Being considered *athletic* is wonderful! I

checked

Quoted message said:

the website out, found out I am *acceptable* according to his little

quiz.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm

Quoted message said:

not sure if there would be any difference in the reading since it

currently is TOM

Quoted message said:

(ugh!) and chinese dinner last night. <G> Regardless, there was

something

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

else

Quoted message said:

there that opened my eyes up a bit more ... acceptable weight ...

129-158.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

So why

Quoted message said:

should I keep hoping for 125? Like you, I think I'm going to quit

worrying about

Quoted message said:

the possibility of seeing the 120's again and work on staying in the

low

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to mid

Quoted message said:

130's. And work on that body fat that just won't go away. <G>

Congrats on your new and fit body. You've come a long way!!!

Joyce

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week

will

Quoted message said:

>be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is

Quoted message said:

>probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>fat. I am going to

quit

Quoted message said:

>trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one

fifties,

Quoted message said:

>y Ya as they say here
>

snort. 5.6% bodyfat. Right.

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Now this I find really bizarre. I enter the exact same stats but use

minimal for

thing and

Quoted message said:

get slammed with 25.3%. Why the huge difference? I know women carry more

natural

Quoted message said:

fatty tissue, but c'mon - I find it pretty dang hard to believe there is

THAT much

Quoted message said:

of a difference. And what if you fall somewhere in between? Like I swear

I was

Quoted message said:

supposed to be born a male, but came out a female ... super wide

shoulders, monkey

Quoted message said:

arms (really need more of a mens sizing shirts as womens are too short in

length

Quoted message said:

and sleeve length, and too narrow in the shoulders). And vice versa ... I

know a

Quoted message said:

few men whose bone/body structure is actually more feminine than my own.

<G>

Quoted message said:

I have what I think of as a normal wrist measurement, but according to

charts it

Quoted message said:

puts me right on the edge of medium/large framed (6.5 inches) - and my

wrist bone

Quoted message said:

really sticks out! I also seem to be blessed with those longer hands -

probably

Quoted message said:

not as long as yours, but not near as tiny as my *petite* daughter ... who

happens

Quoted message said:

to be only 1 inch shorter than me. So where do those of us *tweeners*

fall? Or

Quoted message said:

is this just another one of those *take your best guess* type of things?

One of these days I am going to get out and buy those weights, just have

some

Quoted message said:

other [censored] to straighten out first. I do have quite a bit of muscle,

always have,

Quoted message said:

probably always will ... just not as much as I'd like. <G> I think I need

to

Quoted message said:

build the muscles in the stomach area - everything else is doin' pretty

well. <G>

Quoted message said:

And yikes ... if I lose more in any area - will it mean going down to even

smaller

Quoted message said:

sizes? I'm in some 6's, some 8's ... depending ... pants already - and

those 6's

Quoted message said:

tend to be pretty hard to find.

I have no idea as to what calorie count I should be consuming - think my

daily

Quoted message said:

trends tend to flucuate way too much right now to even try and figure it

out. I

Quoted message said:

may just have to take a stab at the program you like ... is always fun to

play

Quoted message said:

with new things. <G>

Joyce

Lesanne said:

Thanks Joyce. I know muscle weighs. And Burns calories. I have slender "bones" but long ones? My
hands are larger than almost any woman I know, but I have a tiny wrist measurement. It is hard to
use many of the indicators of frame size. And taller women don't fit right into the recommended
averages as far as calorie consumption goes either. I am religiously logging every bite right now
into diet power to see what my metabolic rate is, and at this moment it is telling me I am
burning 2300 calories a day. I expect that to come down some when I stay at a stable weight for a
couple of weeks. I don't even Want to eat that much. It is reacting right now to me losing from
that evil one six place.

I think you are at a great weight, now build some muscles and those will burn off any tummy fat
that is hanging around 🙂. "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Wow Lesanne, sometimes those other indicators tell us much more than

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the

Quoted message said:

number seen on the scale. Being considered *athletic* is wonderful! I

checked

Quoted message said:

the website out, found out I am *acceptable* according to his little

quiz.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm

Quoted message said:

not sure if there would be any difference in the reading since it

currently is TOM

Quoted message said:

(ugh!) and chinese dinner last night. <G> Regardless, there was

something

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

else

Quoted message said:

there that opened my eyes up a bit more ... acceptable weight ...

129-158.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

So why

Quoted message said:

should I keep hoping for 125? Like you, I think I'm going to quit

worrying about

Quoted message said:

the possibility of seeing the 120's again and work on staying in the

low

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to mid

Quoted message said:

130's. And work on that body fat that just won't go away. <G>

Congrats on your new and fit body. You've come a long way!!!

Joyce

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week

will

Quoted message said:

>be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is

Quoted message said:

>probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>fat. I am going to

quit

Quoted message said:

>trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one

fifties,

Quoted message said:

>y Ya as they say here
>

Well, that's what a friend just lost her patience with - her new Tanita scale gave too completely
different results for the same data of Weight, height, etc but changed Female to Male and saw such a
change in percentage fat. She now wants to know Tanita's secrety formula (G)

Joyce said:

Now this I find really bizarre. I enter the exact same stats but use minimal for

Quoted message said:

get slammed with 25.3%. Why the huge difference? I know women carry more natural fatty tissue, but
c'mon - I find it pretty dang hard to believe there is THAT much of a difference. And what if you
fall somewhere in between? Like I swear I was supposed to be born a male, but came out a female ...
super wide shoulders, monkey arms (really need more of a mens sizing shirts as womens are too short
in length and sleeve length, and too narrow in the shoulders). And vice versa ... I know a few men
whose bone/body structure is actually more feminine than my own. <G>

I have what I think of as a normal wrist measurement, but according to charts it puts me right on
the edge of medium/large framed (6.5 inches) - and my wrist bone really sticks out! I also seem to
be blessed with those longer hands - probably not as long as yours, but not near as tiny as my
*petite* daughter ... who happens to be only 1 inch shorter than me. So where do those of us
*tweeners* fall? Or is this just another one of those *take your best guess* type of things?

One of these days I am going to get out and buy those weights, just have some other [censored] to
straighten out first. I do have quite a bit of muscle, always have, probably always will ... just
not as much as I'd like. <G> I think I need to build the muscles in the stomach area - everything
else is doin' pretty well. <G> And yikes ... if I lose more in any area - will it mean going down
to even smaller sizes? I'm in some 6's, some 8's ... depending ... pants already - and those 6's
tend to be pretty hard to find.

I have no idea as to what calorie count I should be consuming - think my daily trends tend to
flucuate way too much right now to even try and figure it out. I may just have to take a stab at
the program you like ... is always fun to play with new things. <G>

Joyce

Lesanne said:

Thanks Joyce. I know muscle weighs. And Burns calories. I have slender "bones" but long ones? My
hands are larger than almost any woman I know, but I have a tiny wrist measurement. It is hard to
use many of the indicators of frame size. And taller women don't fit right into the recommended
averages as far as calorie consumption goes either. I am religiously logging every bite right now
into diet power to see what my metabolic rate is, and at this moment it is telling me I am burning
2300 calories a day. I expect that to come down some when I stay at a stable weight for a couple
of weeks. I don't even Want to eat that much. It is reacting right now to me losing from that evil
one six place.

I think you are at a great weight, now build some muscles and those will burn off any tummy fat
that is hanging around 🙂. "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Wow Lesanne, sometimes those other indicators tell us much more than just

the

Quoted message said:

number seen on the scale. Being considered *athletic* is wonderful! I

checked

Quoted message said:

the website out, found out I am *acceptable* according to his little quiz.

I'm

Quoted message said:

not sure if there would be any difference in the reading since it

currently is TOM

Quoted message said:

(ugh!) and chinese dinner last night. <G> Regardless, there was something

else

Quoted message said:

there that opened my eyes up a bit more ... acceptable weight ... 129-158.

So why

Quoted message said:

should I keep hoping for 125? Like you, I think I'm going to quit

worrying about

Quoted message said:

the possibility of seeing the 120's again and work on staying in the low

to mid

Quoted message said:

130's. And work on that body fat that just won't go away. <G>

Congrats on your new and fit body. You've come a long way!!!

Joyce

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week

will

Quoted message said:

>be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it

is

Quoted message said:

>probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>fat. I am going to

quit

Quoted message said:

>trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one

fifties,

Quoted message said:

>y Ya as they say here
>

Sardines with onions are fine but too much efforts early in the a.m. before a ski trip, a GREAT SKI
TRIP, as it turns out.

I get that famished feeling after a lot of exercise and it cannot easily be quenched. Tomorrow is
probably going to be one of those days, which is why I don't believe that Flex's requirement that I
eat all of my activity points on the day of activity is right - not for _ME_.

I also don't think I can go down much more - Most of my lower body is muscle but like you, I could
work the upper body quite a bit more. Very little, other than ski poling, works that but my lower
body gets all kinds of exercise. (sipping port now that the skinny cow is finished) I'm hoping to
counter the green tea from sushi dinner as it appears to keep me awake so the port is intended to
redeaden things
(G)

I think you have done great and there is no reason to push down the range. I think WW has worked
wonders and I think that their weight ranges are pretty realistic and there is a RANGE for a reason
- not everyone should be top or bottom.

Funny, just now at sushi the folks sitting next to me ordered sashimi (no rice) and I made an Atkins
comment. They both said they did WW
(H). He made lifetime and she was also there, I believe. They also mentioned that they bought the
stock when it first went public and did well. He lost 20 pounds and asked me how much. I said
60 and they were both dumbfounded - asking about twice more! We had a great time discussing
foods and diets while eating dinner (G)

Lesanne said:

oh man, what a great breakfast, oatmeal and sardines. I love sardines, but with onion (iced) and ak
mak crackers. Bob did not force me, but it did give me another opinion. And it kind of agrees with
all the people who see me. Nobody is encouraging me to lose any more, even my thin women friends
have all said Stop. The ones that used to look at me like I was nuts when I wanted to stop at 200
and 180 etc. I get hungry when I overeat, but it is a different hungry than the hungry that shows
up when I hit 156. THAT is an eat the paint off the walls, dizzy spells kind of hungry. And I do
want to try and build up my upper body strength to where it was when I started this, which may call
for more food. I know I am most likely to get dizzy/hungry days when I do a real lively weights
workout, and have the lower end of my weight range. "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Interesting info. All of it including Bob Greene forcing you to make a choice (G)

Now, how do you pronounce Y Ya?

I think the famished is probably a good indication that the body needs more food. But then again,
I would have said that at a HIGHER weight since I still somewhat believe those damn little fat
cells are secreting hormones demanding to be fed again!!!?????? That would cause the resultant
demand for food????

I'm in hover mode now - up a fraction, down a fraction. I like it here, too just around 158 or
so. At least, the way I feel biking and skiing....

Sardines (second course) are calling....

Lesanne said:

Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats it", that kind of thing. I
am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157 this morning. The leader thinks 155 is not
realistic because of my muscle

mass,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am done. Also, I do still have
enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has

done a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And the

way

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get below

where

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was still
in the mid 250's and I was not dieting at the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you
can still clearly see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my
shoulders. Bob Greene uses height, age, weight, waist measurement and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me (lets

not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't care to totally lose, they
give the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as close

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but whatever. She thinks the 164 goal
is good. But I am not going there.

🙂 Lesanne
365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).
>
> Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????
>
> What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?
>
> And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"
>
> On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week
will
> >be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is
> >probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
> >that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
> >fat. I am going to
quit
> >trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
fifties,
> >y Ya as they say here
> >
>

It is getwiththeprogram.ORG

Lesanne said:

getwiththeprogram.comgetwiththeprogram.comOpen ↗ I hope ;0

"Connie" <walshclan@nospam_primus.ca> wrote in message news:4026A3B7.6020000@nospam_primus.ca...

Quoted message said:

Lesanne:

What is the Bob Greene site?

Connie

Lesanne said:

Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats

it",

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that kind of thing. I am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157

this

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic because of my muscle

mass,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am done. Also, I do still have
enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has

done a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And the

way

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get below

where

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was
still in the mid 250's and I was not dieting

at

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still

clearly

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my shoulders. Bob Greene
uses height, age, weight, waist measurement and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me (lets

not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't care

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as

close to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but

whatever.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.

🙂 Lesanne
365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

>A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).
>
>Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????
>
>What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?
>
>And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"
>
>On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>
>>My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week
>
will

>>be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it
>
is

>>probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>>that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>>fat. I am going to
>
quit

>>trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
>
fifties,

>>y Ya as they say here
>>
>

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/205/155 RAFL 210.5/205/198.5

(sigh) - I only came out as "fit!" (sniff)

Lesanne said:

getwiththeprogram.comgetwiththeprogram.comOpen ↗ I hope ;0

"Connie" <walshclan@nospam_primus.ca> wrote in message news:4026A3B7.6020000@nospam_primus.ca...

Quoted message said:

Lesanne:

What is the Bob Greene site?

Connie

Lesanne said:

Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats

it",

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that kind of thing. I am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157

this

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic because of my muscle

mass,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am done. Also, I do still have
enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has

done a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And the

way

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get below

where

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was
still in the mid 250's and I was not dieting

at

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still

clearly

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my shoulders. Bob Greene
uses height, age, weight, waist measurement and

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failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me (lets

not

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get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't care

to

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totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as

close to

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157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but

whatever.

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She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.

🙂 Lesanne
365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).
>
>Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????
>
>What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?
>
>And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"
>
>On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>
>>My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week
>
will

>>be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it
>
is

>>probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>>that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>>fat. I am going to
>
quit

>>trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
>
fifties,

>>y Ya as they say here
>>
>

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/205/155 RAFL 210.5/205/198.5

I never looked at the official url - I typed in bobgreene.com and my browser took me to the site you
listed. LOL!

Joyce

Lesanne said:

getwiththeprogram.comgetwiththeprogram.comOpen ↗ I hope ;0

"Connie" <walshclan@nospam_primus.ca> wrote in message news:4026A3B7.6020000@nospam_primus.ca...

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Lesanne:

What is the Bob Greene site?

Connie

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Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats

it",

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that kind of thing. I am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157

this

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morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic because of my muscle

mass,

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and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am done. Also, I do still have
enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has

done a

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fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And the

way

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I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get below

where

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I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was
still in the mid 250's and I was not dieting

at

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the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still

clearly

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see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my shoulders. Bob Greene
uses height, age, weight, waist measurement and

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failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me (lets

not

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get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't care

to

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totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as

close to

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157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but

whatever.

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She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.

🙂 Lesanne
365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).
>
>Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????
>
>What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?
>
>And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"
>
>On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>
>>My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week
>
will

>>be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it
>
is

>>probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>>that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>>fat. I am going to
>
quit

>>trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
>
fifties,

>>y Ya as they say here
>>
>

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/205/155 RAFL 210.5/205/198.5

PR and I together could make up a jury pool. You know, it is funny, one of the things that one of my
exes said drove him crazy was the way I could argue both sides of things in the same discussion.
That would be the ex with the brain. As opposed to the ex with the body...

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You know if they ever call you for jury duty you could serve all alone (sort of!) (G)

Prairie Roots said:

Modifying my size is proving to be MUCH easier than modifying my mood swings. When you get that
one figured out, let us know.

In the meantime, I'm carrying on with strength training and aerobic exercise. Activity seems to
fatigue Sybil/Eve/Jasmine/Tawanda/et al. It hasn't been this quiet in a long time. LOL

Prairie Roots

Lesanne said:

I am a happy camper this morning. I think that history does make some difference. I used to be
quite happy at 200 and thought I would stay

there.

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Compared to 365, it was truly much better. Compared to now, no contest.

I

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really think I need to accept this as the spot and learn to modify the

mood

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swings instead of my size "Lynne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> If you feel good stay where you are. Unrealistic goals that are impossible to attain just
> wreck self-esteem. You've come a very long way, and you need to be proud of your
> accomplishments. A BF of 19 is AMAZING!!! You're my hero!
>
> Lynne
>
> >My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week
will
> >be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that

it

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is
> >probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
> >that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
> >fat. I am going to
quit
> >trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
fifties,
> >y Ya as they say here
> >
>

Well, if she figures out that formula - have her pass it along to the rest of us. I can see where
this *formula* might be another one of those general guideline type things, but there are so many
different body types - male and female - that I really don't see how just one specific body
measurement (such as waist) can give a totally accurate account. Eh, maybe just playing that *close
enough* game?

Joyce

Fred said:

Well, that's what a friend just lost her patience with - her new Tanita scale gave too completely
different results for the same data of Weight, height, etc but changed Female to Male and saw such
a change in percentage fat. She now wants to know Tanita's secrety formula (G)

Joyce said:

Now this I find really bizarre. I enter the exact same stats but use minimal for

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get slammed with 25.3%. Why the huge difference? I know women carry more natural fatty tissue, but
c'mon - I find it pretty dang hard to believe there is THAT much of a difference. And what if you
fall somewhere in between? Like I swear I was supposed to be born a male, but came out a female
... super wide shoulders, monkey arms (really need more of a mens sizing shirts as womens are too
short in length and sleeve length, and too narrow in the shoulders). And vice versa ... I know a
few men whose bone/body structure is actually more feminine than my own. <G>

I have what I think of as a normal wrist measurement, but according to charts it puts me right on
the edge of medium/large framed (6.5 inches) - and my wrist bone really sticks out! I also seem to
be blessed with those longer hands - probably not as long as yours, but not near as tiny as my
*petite* daughter ... who happens to be only 1 inch shorter than me. So where do those of us
*tweeners* fall? Or is this just another one of those *take your best guess* type of things?

One of these days I am going to get out and buy those weights, just have some other [censored] to
straighten out first. I do have quite a bit of muscle, always have, probably always will ... just
not as much as I'd like. <G> I think I need to build the muscles in the stomach area - everything
else is doin' pretty well. <G> And yikes ... if I lose more in any area - will it mean going down
to even smaller sizes? I'm in some 6's, some 8's ... depending ... pants already - and those 6's
tend to be pretty hard to find.

I have no idea as to what calorie count I should be consuming - think my daily trends tend to
flucuate way too much right now to even try and figure it out. I may just have to take a stab at
the program you like ... is always fun to play with new things. <G>

Joyce

Lesanne said:

Thanks Joyce. I know muscle weighs. And Burns calories. I have slender "bones" but long ones? My
hands are larger than almost any woman I know, but I have a tiny wrist measurement. It is hard to
use many of the indicators of frame size. And taller women don't fit right into the recommended
averages as far as calorie consumption goes either. I am religiously logging every bite right now
into diet power to see what my metabolic rate is, and at this moment it is telling me I am
burning 2300 calories a day. I expect that to come down some when I stay at a stable weight for a
couple of weeks. I don't even Want to eat that much. It is reacting right now to me losing from
that evil one six place.

I think you are at a great weight, now build some muscles and those will burn off any tummy fat
that is hanging around 🙂. "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> Wow Lesanne, sometimes those other indicators tell us much more than just
the
> number seen on the scale. Being considered *athletic* is wonderful! I
checked
> the website out, found out I am *acceptable* according to his little quiz.
I'm
> not sure if there would be any difference in the reading since it
currently is TOM
> (ugh!) and chinese dinner last night. <G> Regardless, there was something
else
> there that opened my eyes up a bit more ... acceptable weight ... 129-158.
So why
> should I keep hoping for 125? Like you, I think I'm going to quit
worrying about
> the possibility of seeing the 120's again and work on staying in the low
to mid
> 130's. And work on that body fat that just won't go away. <G>
>
> Congrats on your new and fit body. You've come a long way!!!
>
> Joyce
>
> On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week
will
> >be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it
is
> >probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
> >that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
> >fat. I am going to
quit
> >trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
fifties,
> >y Ya as they say here
> >
>

I know what you are saying, but it still is mind boggling to me ... maybe my brain is just tired
today. This method definitely does seem to favor those women with distinctive waists ... not those
that have little to no waistline. But I do know my own flaws and I can't argue that. I also know I'm
never gonna have a tiny waistline - never have so why would I think I would down the road? I'm also
interested to see what next week's measurements will be ... after TOM .. if any difference at all.
LOL Us women sure have a lot of baggage to deal with.

Joyce

Lesanne said:

Well if you Were M, then that would be a very small WAIST measurement that you had there. This
thing is using that tool the docs' came up with a couple of years ago using the waist measurement
to figure cardiac risk factors? The ole apple shaped thing? I am going to go see what I come out
with if I go minimal...

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Now this I find really bizarre. I enter the exact same stats but use

minimal for

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thing and

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get slammed with 25.3%. Why the huge difference? I know women carry more

natural

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fatty tissue, but c'mon - I find it pretty dang hard to believe there is

THAT much

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of a difference. And what if you fall somewhere in between? Like I swear

I was

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supposed to be born a male, but came out a female ... super wide

shoulders, monkey

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arms (really need more of a mens sizing shirts as womens are too short in

length

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and sleeve length, and too narrow in the shoulders). And vice versa ... I

know a

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few men whose bone/body structure is actually more feminine than my own.

<G>

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I have what I think of as a normal wrist measurement, but according to

charts it

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puts me right on the edge of medium/large framed (6.5 inches) - and my

wrist bone

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really sticks out! I also seem to be blessed with those longer hands -

probably

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not as long as yours, but not near as tiny as my *petite* daughter ... who

happens

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to be only 1 inch shorter than me. So where do those of us *tweeners*

fall? Or

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is this just another one of those *take your best guess* type of things?

One of these days I am going to get out and buy those weights, just have

some

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other [censored] to straighten out first. I do have quite a bit of muscle,

always have,

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probably always will ... just not as much as I'd like. <G> I think I need

to

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build the muscles in the stomach area - everything else is doin' pretty

well. <G>

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And yikes ... if I lose more in any area - will it mean going down to even

smaller

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sizes? I'm in some 6's, some 8's ... depending ... pants already - and

those 6's

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tend to be pretty hard to find.

I have no idea as to what calorie count I should be consuming - think my

daily

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trends tend to flucuate way too much right now to even try and figure it

out. I

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may just have to take a stab at the program you like ... is always fun to

play

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with new things. <G>

Joyce

Lesanne said:

Thanks Joyce. I know muscle weighs. And Burns calories. I have slender "bones" but long ones? My
hands are larger than almost any woman I know, but I have a tiny wrist measurement. It is hard
to use many of the indicators of frame size. And taller women don't fit right into the
recommended averages as far as calorie consumption goes either. I am religiously logging every
bite right now into diet power to see what my metabolic rate is, and at this moment it is
telling me I am burning 2300 calories a day. I expect that to come down some when I stay at a
stable weight for a couple of weeks. I don't even Want to eat that much. It is reacting right
now to me losing from that evil one six place.

I think you are at a great weight, now build some muscles and those will burn off any tummy fat
that is hanging around 🙂. "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Wow Lesanne, sometimes those other indicators tell us much more than

just

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the
> number seen on the scale. Being considered *athletic* is wonderful! I
checked
> the website out, found out I am *acceptable* according to his little

quiz.

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I'm
> not sure if there would be any difference in the reading since it
currently is TOM
> (ugh!) and chinese dinner last night. <G> Regardless, there was

something

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else
> there that opened my eyes up a bit more ... acceptable weight ...

129-158.

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So why
> should I keep hoping for 125? Like you, I think I'm going to quit
worrying about
> the possibility of seeing the 120's again and work on staying in the

low

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to mid
> 130's. And work on that body fat that just won't go away. <G>
>
> Congrats on your new and fit body. You've come a long way!!!
>
> Joyce
>
> On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]>

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>
> >My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week
will
> >be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that

it

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is
> >probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
> >that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
> >fat. I am going to
quit
> >trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
fifties,
> >y Ya as they say here
> >
>

a whole post filled with nsvs that is wonderful to read, Lee
Fred <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Sardines with onions are fine but too much efforts early in the a.m. before a ski trip, a GREAT
SKI TRIP, as it turns out.

I get that famished feeling after a lot of exercise and it cannot easily be quenched. Tomorrow is
probably going to be one of those days, which is why I don't believe that Flex's requirement that
I eat all of my activity points on the day of activity is right - not for _ME_.

I also don't think I can go down much more - Most of my lower body is muscle but like you, I could
work the upper body quite a bit more. Very little, other than ski poling, works that but my lower
body gets all kinds of exercise. (sipping port now that the skinny cow is finished) I'm hoping to
counter the green tea from sushi dinner as it appears to keep me awake so the port is intended to
redeaden things
(G)

I think you have done great and there is no reason to push down the range. I think WW has worked
wonders and I think that their weight ranges are pretty realistic and there is a RANGE for a
reason - not everyone should be top or bottom.

Funny, just now at sushi the folks sitting next to me ordered sashimi (no rice) and I made an
Atkins comment. They both said they did WW
(G). He made lifetime and she was also there, I believe. They also mentioned that they bought the
stock when it first went public and did well. He lost 20 pounds and asked me how much. I
said 60 and they were both dumbfounded - asking about twice more! We had a great time
discussing foods and diets while eating dinner (G)

Lesanne said:

oh man, what a great breakfast, oatmeal and sardines. I love sardines,

but

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with onion (iced) and ak mak crackers. Bob did not force me, but it did give me another opinion.
And it kind of agrees with all the people who

see

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me. Nobody is encouraging me to lose any more, even my thin women

friends

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have all said Stop. The ones that used to look at me like I was nuts

when I

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wanted to stop at 200 and 180 etc. I get hungry when I overeat, but it

is a

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different hungry than the hungry that shows up when I hit 156. THAT is

an

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eat the paint off the walls, dizzy spells kind of hungry. And I do want

to

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try and build up my upper body strength to where it was when I started

this,

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which may call for more food. I know I am most likely to get

dizzy/hungry

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days when I do a real lively weights workout, and have the lower end of

my

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weight range. "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Interesting info. All of it including Bob Greene forcing you to make a choice (G)

Now, how do you pronounce Y Ya?

I think the famished is probably a good indication that the body needs more food. But then
again, I would have said that at a HIGHER weight since I still somewhat believe those damn
little fat cells are secreting hormones demanding to be fed again!!!?????? That would cause the
resultant demand for food????

I'm in hover mode now - up a fraction, down a fraction. I like it here, too just around 158 or
so. At least, the way I feel biking and skiing....

Sardines (second course) are calling....

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:01:50 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats

it",

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>that kind of thing. I am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157

this

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>morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic because of my muscle

mass,

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>and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am

done.

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>Also, I do still have enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has

done a

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>fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And

the

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way

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>I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get below

where

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>I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was
>still in the mid 250's and I was not dieting

at

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>the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still

clearly

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>see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my shoulders. Bob Greene
>uses height, age, weight, waist measurement and

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>failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me

(lets

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not

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>get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't care

to

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>totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as

close

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to

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>157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but

whatever.

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>She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.
>
>🙂 Lesanne
>365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> "]news:[email hidden]...
>> A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).
>>
>> Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone

size

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>> or bone density or?????
>>
>> What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?
>>
>> And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"
>>
>> On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> >My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next

week

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>will
>> >be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said

that

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it

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>is
>> >probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put

my

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>> >measurements into a site that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at
>> >19. something percent body fat. I am going

to

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>quit
>> >trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
>fifties,
>> >y Ya as they say here
>> >
>>
>

Thanks Fred and Lesanne!!

Connie

Fred said:

It is getwiththeprogram.ORG

Lesanne said:

getwiththeprogram.comgetwiththeprogram.comOpen ↗ I hope ;0

"Connie" <walshclan@nospam_primus.ca> wrote in message news:4026A3B7.6020000@nospam_primus.ca...

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Lesanne:

What is the Bob Greene site?

Connie

Lesanne wrote:

>Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats

it",

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>that kind of thing. I am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157

this

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>morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic because of my muscle

mass,

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>and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am done. Also, I do still have
>enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has

done a

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>fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And the

way

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>I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get below

where

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>I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was still
>in the mid 250's and I was not dieting

at

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>the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still

clearly

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>see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my shoulders. Bob Greene uses
>height, age, weight, waist measurement and

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>failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me (lets

not

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>get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't care

to

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>totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as

close to

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>157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but

whatever.

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>She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.
>
>🙂 Lesanne
>365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> "]news:[email hidden]...
>
>
>>A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).
>>
>>Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????
>>
>>What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?
>>
>>And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"
>>
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week
>>
>will
>
>
>>>be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it
>>
>is
>
>
>>>probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>>>that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>>>fat. I am going to
>>
>quit
>
>
>>>trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
>>
>fifties,
>
>
>>>y Ya as they say here
>>>
>>
>

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/205/155 RAFL 210.5/205/198.5

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/205/155 RAFL 210.5/205/198.5

at least you can say you are *fit*. I am *normal* or whatever. .1 away from being fit. <sigh>

Joyce

Fred said:

(sigh) - I only came out as "fit!" (sniff)

Lesanne said:

getwiththeprogram.comgetwiththeprogram.comOpen ↗ I hope ;0

"Connie" <walshclan@nospam_primus.ca> wrote in message news:4026A3B7.6020000@nospam_primus.ca...

Quoted message said:

Lesanne:

What is the Bob Greene site?

Connie

Lesanne wrote:
> Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats

it",

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> that kind of thing. I am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157

this

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> morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic because of my muscle

mass,

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> and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am done. Also, I do still have
> enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has

done a

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> fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And the

way

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> I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get below

where

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> I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was
> still in the mid 250's and I was not dieting

at

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> the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still

clearly

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> see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my shoulders. Bob Greene
> uses height, age, weight, waist measurement and

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> failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me (lets

not

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> get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't care

to

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> totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as

close to

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> 157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but

whatever.

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> She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.
>
> 🙂 Lesanne
> 365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> "]news:[email hidden]...
>
>>A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).
>>
>>Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone size or bone density or?????
>>
>>What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?
>>
>>And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"
>>
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week
>>
> will
>
>>>be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that it
>>
> is
>
>>>probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>>>that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>>>fat. I am going to
>>
> quit
>
>>>trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
>>
> fifties,
>
>>>y Ya as they say here
>>>
>>
>
>

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/205/155 RAFL 210.5/205/198.5

of fat to draw from, when the body is trying to repair tissue it will Insist on energy sources of
some kind. It is truly a different quality of hunger from that one that I would feel for a couple of
weeks when I had to drop my points? That one was intense too, but perversely almost enjoyable
compared to the exercise and lower weigh induced one. It felt "healthy" or something, whereas the
other feels "CRITICAL". I can't describe it, do you feel the difference? good deal on the nice ski
trip. I wonder if I could ski.? Upper body development almost requires resistance training i.e.
inside boring stuff. I am on here putting off starting, but gonna do it this morning. I am reminded
of green tea by your post, gonna make a pot.

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Sardines with onions are fine but too much efforts early in the a.m. before a ski trip, a GREAT
SKI TRIP, as it turns out.

I get that famished feeling after a lot of exercise and it cannot easily be quenched. Tomorrow is
probably going to be one of those days, which is why I don't believe that Flex's requirement that
I eat all of my activity points on the day of activity is right - not for _ME_.

I also don't think I can go down much more - Most of my lower body is muscle but like you, I could
work the upper body quite a bit more. Very little, other than ski poling, works that but my lower
body gets all kinds of exercise. (sipping port now that the skinny cow is finished) I'm hoping to
counter the green tea from sushi dinner as it appears to keep me awake so the port is intended to
redeaden things
(G)

I think you have done great and there is no reason to push down the range. I think WW has worked
wonders and I think that their weight ranges are pretty realistic and there is a RANGE for a
reason - not everyone should be top or bottom.

Funny, just now at sushi the folks sitting next to me ordered sashimi (no rice) and I made an
Atkins comment. They both said they did WW
(G). He made lifetime and she was also there, I believe. They also mentioned that they bought the
stock when it first went public and did well. He lost 20 pounds and asked me how much. I
said 60 and they were both dumbfounded - asking about twice more! We had a great time
discussing foods and diets while eating dinner (G)

Lesanne said:

oh man, what a great breakfast, oatmeal and sardines. I love sardines,

but

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with onion (iced) and ak mak crackers. Bob did not force me, but it did give me another opinion.
And it kind of agrees with all the people who

see

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me. Nobody is encouraging me to lose any more, even my thin women

friends

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have all said Stop. The ones that used to look at me like I was nuts

when I

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wanted to stop at 200 and 180 etc. I get hungry when I overeat, but it

is a

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different hungry than the hungry that shows up when I hit 156. THAT is

an

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eat the paint off the walls, dizzy spells kind of hungry. And I do want

to

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try and build up my upper body strength to where it was when I started

this,

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which may call for more food. I know I am most likely to get

dizzy/hungry

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days when I do a real lively weights workout, and have the lower end of

my

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weight range. "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Interesting info. All of it including Bob Greene forcing you to make a choice (G)

Now, how do you pronounce Y Ya?

I think the famished is probably a good indication that the body needs more food. But then
again, I would have said that at a HIGHER weight since I still somewhat believe those damn
little fat cells are secreting hormones demanding to be fed again!!!?????? That would cause the
resultant demand for food????

I'm in hover mode now - up a fraction, down a fraction. I like it here, too just around 158 or
so. At least, the way I feel biking and skiing....

Sardines (second course) are calling....

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:01:50 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats

it",

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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>that kind of thing. I am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157

this

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>morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic because of my muscle

mass,

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>and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am

done.

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>Also, I do still have enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has

done a

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>fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And

the

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way

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>I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get below

where

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>I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was
>still in the mid 250's and I was not dieting

at

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>the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still

clearly

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>see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my shoulders. Bob Greene
>uses height, age, weight, waist measurement and

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>failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me

(lets

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not

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>get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't care

to

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>totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as

close

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to

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>157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but

whatever.

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>She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.
>
>🙂 Lesanne
>365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> "]news:[email hidden]...
>> A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).
>>
>> Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone

size

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>> or bone density or?????
>>
>> What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?
>>
>> And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"
>>
>> On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> >My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next

week

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>will
>> >be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said

that

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it

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>is
>> >probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put

my

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>> >measurements into a site that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at
>> >19. something percent body fat. I am going

to

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>quit
>> >trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
>fifties,
>> >y Ya as they say here
>> >
>>
>

oh Thank you Fred, my memory serks...

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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It is getwiththeprogram.ORG

Lesanne said:

getwiththeprogram.comgetwiththeprogram.comOpen ↗ I hope ;0

"Connie" <walshclan@nospam_primus.ca> wrote in message news:4026A3B7.6020000@nospam_primus.ca...

Quoted message said:

Lesanne:

What is the Bob Greene site?

Connie

Lesanne wrote:
> Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats

it",

Quoted message said:

> that kind of thing. I am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157

this

Quoted message said:

> morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic because of my muscle

mass,

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> and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am

done.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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> Also, I do still have enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has

done a

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> fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And

the

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way

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> I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get

below

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where

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> I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was
> still in the mid 250's and I was not

dieting

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at

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> the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still

clearly

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> see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my shoulders. Bob Greene
> uses height, age, weight, waist measurement

and

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> failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me

(lets

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not

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> get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't

care

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to

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> totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as

close to

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> 157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but

whatever.

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> She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.
>
> 🙂 Lesanne
> 365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> "]news:[email hidden]...
>
>>A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).
>>
>>Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone

size

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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>>or bone density or?????
>>
>>What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?
>>
>>And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"
>>
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next

week

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>>
> will
>
>>>be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that

it

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>>
> is
>
>>>probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>>>that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>>>fat. I am going

to

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>>
> quit
>
>>>trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
>>
> fifties,
>
>>>y Ya as they say here
>>>
>>
>
>

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/205/155 RAFL 210.5/205/198.5

WHAT!??! How can this bee?? Wait, where is fit in that range? I am just barely in athletic, a half
inch more on my waist and I would be outta there.

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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(sigh) - I only came out as "fit!" (sniff)

Lesanne said:

getwiththeprogram.comgetwiththeprogram.comOpen ↗ I hope ;0

"Connie" <walshclan@nospam_primus.ca> wrote in message news:4026A3B7.6020000@nospam_primus.ca...

Quoted message said:

Lesanne:

What is the Bob Greene site?

Connie

Lesanne wrote:
> Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats

it",

Quoted message said:

> that kind of thing. I am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157

this

Quoted message said:

> morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic because of my muscle

mass,

Quoted message said:

> and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am

done.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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> Also, I do still have enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has

done a

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> fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And

the

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way

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> I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get

below

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where

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> I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was
> still in the mid 250's and I was not

dieting

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Quoted message said:

at

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> the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still

clearly

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> see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my shoulders. Bob Greene
> uses height, age, weight, waist measurement

and

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> failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me

(lets

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not

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> get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't

care

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to

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> totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as

close to

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> 157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but

whatever.

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> She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.
>
> 🙂 Lesanne
> 365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> "]news:[email hidden]...
>
>>A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).
>>
>>Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone

size

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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>>or bone density or?????
>>
>>What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?
>>
>>And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"
>>
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next

week

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>>
> will
>
>>>be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that

it

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>>
> is
>
>>>probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>>>that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>>>fat. I am going

to

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>>
> quit
>
>>>trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
>>
> fifties,
>
>>>y Ya as they say here
>>>
>>
>
>

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/205/155 RAFL 210.5/205/198.5

good for you, I wondered how you found it with my messup

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I never looked at the official url - I typed in bobgreene.com and my

browser took

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me to the site you listed. LOL!

Joyce

Lesanne said:

getwiththeprogram.comgetwiththeprogram.comOpen ↗ I hope ;0

"Connie" <walshclan@nospam_primus.ca> wrote in message news:4026A3B7.6020000@nospam_primus.ca...

Quoted message said:

Lesanne:

What is the Bob Greene site?

Connie

Lesanne wrote:
> Loosely translated y Ya, means "and whatever" "and so on" "and thats

it",

Quoted message said:

> that kind of thing. I am a happy camper my own scale is back to 157

this

Quoted message said:

> morning. The leader thinks 155 is not realistic because of my muscle

mass,

Quoted message said:

> and the size I am right now, as in measurements. She thinks I am

done.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Also, I do still have enough skin to cover 365 pounds although it has

done a

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> fabulous job of shrinking up, It doesn't flake off or anything. And

the

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way

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> I tend to get Ferociously hungry and feel weak when I try to get

below

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where

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> I am right now. My bone structure is fairly average, but I began weightlifting while I was
> still in the mid 250's and I was not

dieting

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Quoted message said:

at

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> the time. I have lost some of the muscle mass, but you can still

clearly

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> see quite a bit of it here and there, particularly in my quads and my shoulders. Bob Greene
> uses height, age, weight, waist measurement

and

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> failing). My waist measurement is 29 inches. Also, the top of me

(lets

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not

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> get too specific) still has two rather large weights that I don't

care

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to

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> totally lose, they give the body some shape. Y Ya. Gonna stick as

close to

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> 157 as I can. She does not think that is realistic either, but

whatever.

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> She thinks the 164 goal is good. But I am not going there.
>
> 🙂 Lesanne
> 365/160/157 "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> "]news:[email hidden]...
>
>>A MAINTAIN below GOAL is a GOOD THING (as Martha would say).
>>
>>Mind if I ask why the leader thought 155 was not realistic? Bone

size

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>or bone density or?????
>>
>>What does that Bob Greene site use to make that determination?
>>
>>And is that "y Ya?" And if so, what does it mean when they say it down "thar?"
>>
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next

week

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>>
> will
>
>>>be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that

it

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>>
> is
>
>>>probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>>>that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>>>fat. I am going

to

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>>
> quit
>
>>>trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
>>
> fifties,
>
>>>y Ya as they say here
>>>
>>
>
>

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/205/155 RAFL 210.5/205/198.5

Who needs a husband to argue with? All by myself, the discussion can get pretty heated.

Lesanne said:

PR and I together could make up a jury pool. You know, it is funny, one of the things that one of
my exes said drove him crazy was the way I could argue both sides of things in the same discussion.
That would be the ex with the brain. As opposed to the ex with the body...

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You know if they ever call you for jury duty you could serve all alone (sort of!) (G)

Prairie Roots said:

Modifying my size is proving to be MUCH easier than modifying my mood swings. When you get that
one figured out, let us know.

In the meantime, I'm carrying on with strength training and aerobic exercise. Activity seems to
fatigue Sybil/Eve/Jasmine/Tawanda/et al. It hasn't been this quiet in a long time. LOL

Prairie Roots

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:41:33 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I am a happy camper this morning. I think that history does make some difference. I used to be
>quite happy at 200 and thought I would stay

there.

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>Compared to 365, it was truly much better. Compared to now, no contest.

I

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>really think I need to accept this as the spot and learn to modify the

mood

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>swings instead of my size "Lynne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>"]news:[email hidden]...
>> On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> If you feel good stay where you are. Unrealistic goals that are impossible to attain just
>> wreck self-esteem. You've come a very long way, and you need to be proud of your
>> accomplishments. A BF of 19 is AMAZING!!! You're my hero!
>>
>> Lynne
>>
>> >My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week
>will
>> >be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that

it

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>is
>> >probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>> >that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>> >fat. I am going to
>quit
>> >trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
>fifties,
>> >y Ya as they say here
>> >
>>
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Prairie Roots
232/163.6/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Now, I could ask if those were separate X's or just one with two minds or two bodies or just you and
YOU discussing the one guy but from two different (personality) perspectives? (G)

You could be a lawyer if you can do both sides with reason.

Lesanne said:

PR and I together could make up a jury pool. You know, it is funny, one of the things that one of
my exes said drove him crazy was the way I could argue both sides of things in the same discussion.
That would be the ex with the brain. As opposed to the ex with the body...

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You know if they ever call you for jury duty you could serve all alone (sort of!) (G)

Prairie Roots said:

Modifying my size is proving to be MUCH easier than modifying my mood swings. When you get that
one figured out, let us know.

In the meantime, I'm carrying on with strength training and aerobic exercise. Activity seems to
fatigue Sybil/Eve/Jasmine/Tawanda/et al. It hasn't been this quiet in a long time. LOL

Prairie Roots

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:41:33 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I am a happy camper this morning. I think that history does make some difference. I used to be
>quite happy at 200 and thought I would stay

there.

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>Compared to 365, it was truly much better. Compared to now, no contest.

I

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>really think I need to accept this as the spot and learn to modify the

mood

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>swings instead of my size "Lynne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:24:42 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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>> If you feel good stay where you are. Unrealistic goals that are impossible to attain just
>> wreck self-esteem. You've come a very long way, and you need to be proud of your
>> accomplishments. A BF of 19 is AMAZING!!! You're my hero!
>>
>> Lynne
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>> >My average for the week was 160. At least I am fairly sure next week
>will
>> >be a loss. My leader at my meeting (where I was at 159.5) said that

it

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>> >probably not realistic for me to try to get to 155 anyway. I put my measurements into a site
>> >that Bob Greene has up, and came out with "athletic" category at 19. something percent body
>> >fat. I am going to
>quit
>> >trying to lose more and just concentrate on staying in the high one
>fifties,
>> >y Ya as they say here
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