Walking Hadrians Wall

MIKE OWEN said:

can any one reccommend any accommodation along the Hadrian's Wall path?

Regards Jeanette
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I understand that the path is to be "closed" over the winter months to allow some recovery from
and unexpected large number of visitors this summer. Walkers are being asked to seek alternative
routes to avoid erosion........best contact one of the visitors' centres for accurate up-to date
info on this.

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can any one reccommend any accommodation along the Hadrian's Wall path?

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On 2 Nov 2003 15:51:56 -0600, job donjon <[email hidden]>

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MIKE OWEN said:

can any one reccommend any accommodation along the Hadrian's Wall path?

Regards Jeanette
[email hidden]

I understand that the path is to be "closed" over the winter months to allow some recovery from
and unexpected large number of visitors this summer. Walkers are being asked to seek alternative
routes to avoid erosion........best contact one of the visitors' centres for accurate up-to date
info on this.

"closed" sums it up. They will be trying this on a hill soon. Oh too late, Nine Standards Rigg.

Why did they push this as an LDP?

Richard Webb

On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:05:35 -0000, "Ted"

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"MIKE OWEN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3fa53cf0$1_1@mk-nntp-
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can any one reccommend any accommodation along the Hadrian's Wall path?

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But there is no mention of the wall-walk being closed at the above mentioned web site, at least not
on the "Home", "News" or "Walking" pages. Glen McLean Ottawa - with a view of the Gatineau Hills if
I run down to the end of the street. (Remove the ".NIT.invalid" from the end of my address)

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can any one reccommend any accommodation along the Hadrian's Wall path?

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But there is no mention of the wall-walk being closed at the above mentioned web site, at least not
on the "Home", "News" or "Walking" pages.

I was at a meeting this evening with the Northumberland NP Sustainable Tourism Officer and she
assured us the path is not closed over winter. What may happen is that if any section appears to be
under stress due to bad weather, walkers may be asked to take an alternative while remedial work is
carried out.
--
Philip Powell Looking north across the Derwent Valley [and Hadrian's Wall] and Northumberland to
The Cheviot

In message <[email hidden]>, Paul Rooney <[email hidden]> writes

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(RJ Webb) said:

Chris Game said:

Paul Rooney said:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:02:13 +0000, Kenneth Miles <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >This extract is from the Ramblers Ass web page-
> >
> >Details of official campsites can be obtained from Tourist Information Centres, and see also
> >the Camping and Caravanning Club. 'Wild' camping is illegal in Britain except with a
> >landowner?s permission, though in very remote areas it may be tolerated in practice
>
> That's not correct. It's not illegal at all.

You mean it's not trespassing?

It may be.. but that may not mean illegal - note the 'uk' in the newsgroup title. (I would avoid
hunts, and bringing a load of mates and a sound system though)

Richard Webb

Trespassing is not against the law in England and Wales, outside very restricted circumstances. It
is NOT illegal, people!!

What about criminal damage whilst trespassing?

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O

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But there is no mention of the wall-walk being closed at the above mentioned web site, at least
not on the "Home", "News" or "Walking" pages.

What's the view taken on "wild camping" along the Wall now ?

When i was about 11 my family walked the length of the wall camping wild every night. Now, some 20
years on i am anxious to repeat it but am not sure whether camping is tolerated still.

Jimbo

Jimbo said:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But there is no mention of the wall-walk being closed at the above mentioned web site, at least
not on the "Home", "News" or "Walking" pages.

What's the view taken on "wild camping" along the Wall now ?

When i was about 11 my family walked the length of the wall camping wild every night. Now, some 20
years on i am anxious to repeat it but am not sure whether camping is tolerated still.

Jimbo

We camped pretty well where we liked about 6 or 7 years back. There was one spot where camping on
the village green was a legal entitlement, but I forget where.

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Although illegal in England I have wild camped all my life, now 63, but have never yet met any
resistance. Regards, Kenneth.

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But there is no mention of the wall-walk being closed at the above mentioned web site, at least
not on the "Home", "News" or "Walking" pages.

What's the view taken on "wild camping" along the Wall now ?

When i was about 11 my family walked the length of the wall camping wild every night. Now, some 20
years on i am anxious to repeat it but am not sure whether camping is tolerated still.

Jimbo

Kenneth Miles said:

Although illegal in England I have wild camped all my life, now 63, but have never yet met any
resistance.

It's not illegal in England!!!!!

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Chris Game said:

Paul Rooney said:

Trespassing is not against the law in England and Wales, outside very restricted circumstances.
It is NOT illegal, people!!

So what are these new rights under CROW all about then, if not to allow access where previously
it wasn't?

Trespass law may be 'a mess'; but it does exist, and there's a lot of it.

Destroying cairns, of course, is a grave offence (-:

Building them in the first place is a capital offence.

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This extract is from the Ramblers Ass web page-

Details of official campsites can be obtained from Tourist Information Centres, and see also the
Camping and Caravanning Club. 'Wild' camping is illegal in Britain except with a landowner’s
permission, though in very remote areas it may be tolerated in practice

Paul Rooney said:

Kenneth Miles said:

Although illegal in England I have wild camped all my life, now 63, but have never yet met any
resistance.

It's not illegal in England!!!!!

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from Paul Rooney <[email hidden]> contains these words:

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It's not illegal in England!!!!!

Just try camping on Elterwater Common. :-)

--
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killfiled on sight

Kenneth Miles said:

This extract is from the Ramblers Ass web page-

Details of official campsites can be obtained from Tourist Information Centres, and see also the
Camping and Caravanning Club. 'Wild' camping is illegal in Britain except with a landowner’s
permission, though in very remote areas it may be tolerated in practice

That's not correct. It's not illegal at all.

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Kenneth Miles said:

This extract is from the Ramblers Ass web page-

Details of official campsites can be obtained from Tourist Information Centres, and see also the
Camping and Caravanning Club. 'Wild' camping is illegal in Britain except with a landowner's
permission, though in very remote areas it may be tolerated in practice

Paul Rooney said:

Kenneth Miles said:

Although illegal in England I have wild camped all my life, now 63, but have never yet met any
resistance.

It's not illegal in England!!!!!

Taken from here though it relates only to Scotland.

mountaineering-scotland.org.ukwildcamp.htmlOpen ↗

"CAMPING AND THE LAW

The Trespass (Scotland) Act of 1865 makes it an offence to encamp or light fires on private land
without the consent of the landowner. It has not been used recently against hillwalkers or climbers,
but the MCofS believes it should be amended so that responsible wild camping is no longer a criminal
offence. The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act (1994) gives the police powers to deal with
either an encampment which involves more than six vehicles or a smaller encampment where there is
damage or a public order offence. It has not yet affected wild camping and appears unlikely to. The
Road Traffic Act 1988 makes it an offence to drive a motor vehicle onto private land without lawful
authority. No offence is committed, however, where a person drives within 15 yards of a public road
for the purpose of parking. This does not imply that a person has a right to do so."

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Kenneth Miles said:

This extract is from the Ramblers Ass web page-

Details of official campsites can be obtained from Tourist Information Centres, and see also the
Camping and Caravanning Club. 'Wild' camping is illegal in Britain except with a landowner's
permission, though in very remote areas it may be tolerated in practice

Paul Rooney said:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:35:59 +0000, Kenneth Miles <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Although illegal in England I have wild camped all my life, now 63, but have never yet met any
> resistance.

It's not illegal in England!!!!!

Taken from here though it relates only to Scotland.

mountaineering-scotland.org.ukwildcamp.htmlOpen ↗

"CAMPING AND THE LAW

The Trespass (Scotland) Act of 1865 makes it an offence to encamp or light fires on private land
without the consent of the landowner. It has not

been

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used recently against hillwalkers or climbers, but the MCofS believes it should be amended so that
responsible wild camping is no longer a criminal offence. The Criminal Justice and Public Order
Act (1994) gives the police powers

to

Quoted message said:

deal with either an encampment which involves more than six vehicles or a smaller encampment where
there is damage or a public order offence. It has not yet affected wild camping and appears
unlikely to. The Road Traffic Act 1988 makes it an offence to drive a motor vehicle

onto

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private land without lawful authority. No offence is committed, however, where a person drives
within 15 yards of a public road for the purpose of parking. This does not imply that a person has
a right to do so."

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I believe the legal term "encampment" involves something a bit more permanent than overnight camping
in a small tent. However, it's moot anyway - it all changes (in Scotland) next year when Wild
Camping (the sort we're talking about on this NG) becomes a right enshrined in law.

I don't suppose you "soft Southerners" need such a thing as you can always make it back to the pub
after your brief rambles (Joke - honestly!!!)

druidh

Paul Rooney said:

Kenneth Miles said:

This extract is from the Ramblers Ass web page-

Details of official campsites can be obtained from Tourist Information Centres, and see also the
Camping and Caravanning Club. 'Wild' camping is illegal in Britain except with a landowner?s
permission, though in very remote areas it may be tolerated in practice

That's not correct. It's not illegal at all.

You mean it's not trespassing?

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On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:02:31 GMT, "Sandy" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Taken from here though it relates only to Scotland.

mountaineering-scotland.org.ukwildcamp.htmlOpen ↗

"CAMPING AND THE LAW

The Trespass (Scotland) Act of 1865 makes it an offence to encamp or light fires on private land
without the consent of the landowner. It has not been used recently against hillwalkers or
climbers, but the MCofS believes it should be amended so that responsible wild camping is no
longer a criminal offence. The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act (1994) gives the police
powers to deal with either an encampment which involves more than six vehicles or a smaller
encampment where there is damage or a public order offence. It has not yet affected wild camping
and appears unlikely to. The Road Traffic Act 1988 makes it an offence to drive a motor vehicle
onto private land without lawful authority. No offence is committed, however, where a person
drives within 15 yards of a public road for the purpose of parking. This does not imply that a
person has a right to do so."

An encampment doesn't mean a tent - it means eg a gypsy camp, or something more permanent than you
wildcamping.

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On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:16:05 -0000, Chris Game <[email hidden]>

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Paul Rooney said:

Kenneth Miles said:

This extract is from the Ramblers Ass web page-

Details of official campsites can be obtained from Tourist Information Centres, and see also the
Camping and Caravanning Club. 'Wild' camping is illegal in Britain except with a landowner?s
permission, though in very remote areas it may be tolerated in practice

That's not correct. It's not illegal at all.

You mean it's not trespassing?

I mean it's not illegal, full stop. Neither is trespassing (with a couple of unusual exceptions).

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