vortex recumbent

Quoted post said:

A vortex it will always have some vacuum at it's center, it will also
have some pressure towards it's edges. Using some drag and the wind
to rotate a cone we can have it suck an aerodynamic body into this
"hole" then squeezing it forwards.

I tried to illustrate it a bit below.

Enjoy.

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/vortex-recumbent

You have come up with an interesting theory. Theories require
verification in the real world. You should build your vehicle and come
to the World Human Powered Speed Challenge next year. Here's what last
year looked like:
http://www.recumbents.com/home.asp

http://www.recumbents.com/wisil/whpsc2007/speedchallenge-2007.htm

Jeff

Quoted post said:

A vortex it will always have some vacuum at it's center, it will also
have some pressure towards it's edges. Using some drag and the wind
to rotate a cone we can have it suck an aerodynamic body into this
"hole" then squeezing it forwards.

I tried to illustrate it a bit below.

Enjoy.

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/vortex-recumbent

<laughing>

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:13:16 -0800 (PST), "[email hidden]"

may have said:

A vortex it will always have some vacuum at it's center, it will also
have some pressure towards it's edges. Using some drag and the wind
to rotate a cone we can have it suck an aerodynamic body into this
"hole" then squeezing it forwards.

I tried to illustrate it a bit below.

Enjoy.

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/vortex-recumbent

Posting something like this once gets you the "benefit of the doubt"
label of a physics-illiterate earnest newbie. Twice is a troll.

Plonk.

--
My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

Quoted message said:

Quoted post said:

A vortex it will always have some vacuum at it's center, it will also
have some pressure towards it's edges. Using some drag and the wind
to rotate a cone we can have it suck an aerodynamic body into this
"hole" then squeezing it forwards.

Quoted message said:

I tried to illustrate it a bit below.

Quoted message said:

Enjoy.

Quoted message said:

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/vortex-recumbent

<laughing>

Laughing is very good for you. If I can make a single person laugh
with my creation or even my presence I concider it a success.

:-)

A vortex it will always have some vacuum at it's center, it will also
have some pressure towards it's edges. Using some drag and the wind
to rotate a cone we can have it suck an aerodynamic body into this
"hole" then squeezing it forwards.

I tried to illustrate it a bit below.

Enjoy.

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/vortex-recumbent

JeffWills said:

Quoted post said:

A vortex it will always have some vacuum at it's center, it will also
have some pressure towards it's edges. Using some drag and the wind
to rotate a cone we can have it suck an aerodynamic body into this
"hole" then squeezing it forwards.

Quoted message said:

I tried to illustrate it a bit below.

Quoted message said:

Enjoy.

Quoted message said:

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/vortex-recumbent

You have come up with an interesting theory. Theories require
verification in the real world. You should build your vehicle and come
to the World Human Powered Speed Challenge next year. Here's what last
year looked like:http://www.recumbents.com/home.asp

http://www.recumbents.com/wisil/whpsc2007/speedchallenge-2007.htm

Jeff

Hello Jeff,

Thanks for the links, I'm trying my best to read up on the Ærodynamic
accomplishments.

I don't think my design is advanced enough to build it jet I, just
wanted to share the thought.

Maybe some one here can put it to use or help advance the concept.
Putting everything under "negative drag" didn't seem to do justice to
the topics.

I did update the page with some patents, 3d images of my idea and a
sketsup model.

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/negative-drag

Gaby De Wilde said:

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/vortex-recumbent

From the middle diagram, it is clearly seen that here we have a
vehicle propelled entirely by the force of Gaby blowing smoke up your
ass.

Chalo

A vortex it will always have some vacuum at it's center, it will also
have some pressure towards it's edges. Using some drag and the wind
to rotate a cone we can have it suck an aerodynamic body into this
"hole" then squeezing it forwards.

I tried to illustrate it a bit below.

Enjoy.

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/vortex-recumbent

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Quoted post said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted post said:

A vortex it will always have some vacuum at it's center, it will also
have some pressure towards it's edges. Using some drag and the wind
to rotate a cone we can have it suck an aerodynamic body into this
"hole" then squeezing it forwards.

Quoted message said:

I tried to illustrate it a bit below.

Quoted message said:

Enjoy.

Quoted message said:

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/vortex-recumbent

<laughing>

Laughing is very good for you. If I can make a single person laugh
with my creation or even my presence I concider it a success.

:-)

Gaby, you may consider yourself a great success.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

Ryan Cousineau said:

Quoted post said:

Laughing is very good for you. If I can make a single person laugh
with my creation or even my presence I concider it a success.

Gaby, you may consider yourself a great success.

here, I write all this specially for you :-)
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-ooVnzrU3eqXHKSdB2TQ.j3cMn.tCeQ--?cq=1&p=6845

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Quoted post said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

Quoted post said:

Laughing is very good for you. If I can make a single person laugh
with my creation or even my presence I concider it a success.

Gaby, you may consider yourself a great success.

here, I write all this specially for you :-)
<http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-ooVnzrU3eqXHKSdB2TQ.j3cMn.tCeQ--?cq=1&p=6845>

Okay, it's stopped being funny now.

But seriously, your theory is easily proven using very straightforward
tests. The people here who suggested that, if you were as confident of
your theory as you seem, you should build it and take it to Battle
Mountain next year, were being cynical but entirely sincere.

Here's the deal: Most of the people here would like for you to succeed.
Aside from any other considerations, a free energy device would be a
massive benefit to society, and I'd like to have a bike that never
needed pedalling.

However, we're really skeptical, because your theory is, as far as any
of us can tell, nonsense. It violates a fair number of currently
understood principles in physics, and it hits a few of the standard
crazy-invention test benchmarks:

http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2007/08/22/p-z-myers-sued-for-libel-what-
is-crackpot-science/

(I found that post looking for commentary referring to the Jeremy
Bernstein essay, as I have his book).

But returning to my previous point, it's easily tested: you just need to
build your device. No discussion of theory is necessary with us: I
assure you that almost everyone here will be most impressed if you build
and demonstrate this device.

We admit, we'll be probing for certain ways in which such tests are
commonly gamed, but in this case, there's even an absolutely perfect
testing bed, one which has essentially no connection with any of us
skeptics, and yet which we would consider completely neutral and
unlikely to be fooled.

I speak, of course, of the Battle Mountain speed trials put on by the
IHPVA. The rules are simple: if your vehicle is safe and human-powered
(no stored energy allowed, and record runs only count if done in low
wind), you can do a run.

If you win (heck, if you even come close to a top time), we'll be VERY
impressed. No joke. It will be like last year, when Jonathan Page, a
cyclocross racer previously assumed to be a bit of a wannabe, went and
won Silver at the Worlds. I shut up right then and there about his lack
of talent, because that's hard to debate.

So please, work hard, think hard, and go build your bike. We can't wait
to hear about the test results.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:12:01 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]>
wrote:

[snip]

Quoted message said:

http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2007/08/22/p-z-myers-sued-for-libel-what-is-crackpot-science/

Dear Ryan,

That somewhat convoluted page led to this nice clear one:

http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i21/21b02001.htm

Which in turn led me to look for "Voodoo Science" by Park, but my
library spends most of its money on forgettable movies and children's
coloring books, so I went to:

www.bookfinder.com

And scarfed up the cheapest used copy of "Voodoo Science" by Park for
less than five bucks, including shipping.

Thanks for the hint about what should be a nice stocking-stuffer.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:12:01 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]>
wrote:

[snip]

Quoted message said:

http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2007/08/22/p-z-myers-sued-for-libel-what-is-c
rackpot-science/

Dear Ryan,

That somewhat convoluted page led to this nice clear one:

http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i21/21b02001.htm

Which in turn led me to look for "Voodoo Science" by Park, but my
library spends most of its money on forgettable movies and children's
coloring books, so I went to:

www.bookfinder.com

And scarfed up the cheapest used copy of "Voodoo Science" by Park for
less than five bucks, including shipping.

If I have an objection to Park's essay, it's that it focuses on the
typological characteristics of crank-work, rather than the essential
characteristics that make them crank-work. In that way, I think
Bernstein's essay did better.

http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st=sl&qi=DeqIYCSxFceX47xlWpS4EkQo
vCU_0980153148_1:1:122

The entire book is some lovely science writing.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:15:44 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:12:01 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]>
wrote:

[snip]

Quoted message said:

http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2007/08/22/p-z-myers-sued-for-libel-what-is-c
rackpot-science/

Dear Ryan,

That somewhat convoluted page led to this nice clear one:

http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i21/21b02001.htm

Which in turn led me to look for "Voodoo Science" by Park, but my
library spends most of its money on forgettable movies and children's
coloring books, so I went to:

www.bookfinder.com

And scarfed up the cheapest used copy of "Voodoo Science" by Park for
less than five bucks, including shipping.

If I have an objection to Park's essay, it's that it focuses on the
typological characteristics of crank-work, rather than the essential
characteristics that make them crank-work. In that way, I think
Bernstein's essay did better.

http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st=sl&qi=DeqIYCSxFceX47xlWpS4EkQo
vCU_0980153148_1:1:122

The entire book is some lovely science writing.

Dear Ryan,

Sorry, but www.bookfinder.com searches expire after an hour. That's
why I never include them.

Which of the prolific Jeremy Bernstein's books did you have in mind?

In any case, Park and Bernstein are both starting from Langmuir's
comments:

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~ken/Langmuir/langB.htm#Characteristic%20Symptoms

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:15:44 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:12:01 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]>
wrote:

[snip]

>http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2007/08/22/p-z-myers-sued-for-libel-what-i
>s-c
>rackpot-science/

Dear Ryan,

That somewhat convoluted page led to this nice clear one:

http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i21/21b02001.htm

Which in turn led me to look for "Voodoo Science" by Park, but my
library spends most of its money on forgettable movies and children's
coloring books, so I went to:

www.bookfinder.com

And scarfed up the cheapest used copy of "Voodoo Science" by Park for
less than five bucks, including shipping.

If I have an objection to Park's essay, it's that it focuses on the
typological characteristics of crank-work, rather than the essential
characteristics that make them crank-work. In that way, I think
Bernstein's essay did better.

http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st=sl&qi=DeqIYCSxFceX47xlWpS4EkQo
vCU_0980153148_1:1:122

The entire book is some lovely science writing.

Dear Ryan,

Sorry, but www.bookfinder.com searches expire after an hour. That's
why I never include them.

D'oh!

Quoted message said:

Which of the prolific Jeremy Bernstein's books did you have in mind?

"Cranks, Quarks, and the Cosmos."

<http://www.amazon.com/Cranks-Quarks-Cosmos-Jeremy-Bernstein/dp/046501449
6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197831759&sr=8-2>

I believe it's a collection of his New Yorker columns.

Quoted message said:

In any case, Park and Bernstein are both starting from Langmuir's
comments:

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~ken/Langmuir/langB.htm#Characteristic%20Symptoms

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Hm. I may be mis-remembering Bernstein's arguments, and since my copy is
now blocked into a shelf behind the Christmas tree*, I am unwilling to
properly confirm the facts. But I remember his essay putting
considerable weight on the specific "good science" of Einstein's "annus
mirabilis" papers, namely the coherence of their relationship to
previous science, and their specific, testable predictions.

I'm probably making a mountain out of a molehill. It also seems that
Park's essay and Bernstein's were aimed at different types of crankery.
Bernstein, as I remember it, wanted to define the basics of "good
science", while Park's essay seemed more to act as a quick checklist for
outright crackpottery. (If you need a distinction, I would say that
N-rays, being properly reported in the normal way, were purely "bad
science," while Pons and Fleischmann's cold fusion fiasco may have
crossed the line into crackpottery owing to the way they announced the
results.

Einstein's first papers, by contrast, were wild, from a complete
outsider, but submitted in the usual way, and most importantly, they
made sense on the face and offered several ways to test the theories.

Now I'd have to think of a counterexample of an important scientific
result that did not pass through the usual channels.

*I suppose it's a damning indictment of my bibliophilia that the
Christmas tree is permitted to block access to about half of the
household books.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

Ryan Cousineau said:

Oh, and I remembered it too late for my last response,

No I think you still have some time to create a decent response. This
wasn't it tho.

I'm refuting your crackpot claim by insulting you. Insults are good
science. You said so yourself.

You didn't like it to be called a fascistic scientist?

Why not Ryan you little Nazi?

But your condescending behaviour really qualifies as such.

definition of crackpot:
A person regarded as strange, eccentric, or crazy: crazy,
eccentric, lunatic. Informal crank, loon, loony. Slang cuckoo, ding-a-
ling, dingbat, kook, nut, screwball, weirdie, weirdo. See wise/
foolish.

I think you got the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics confused with the Nazi
law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring.

Here lets refresh that bookworm memory of yours.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_for_the_Prevention_of_Hereditarily_Diseased_Offspring#Operation_of_the_law
(1) Any person suffering from a hereditary disease may be rendered
incapable of procreation by means of a surgical operation
(sterilization), if the experience of medical science shows that it is
highly probable that his descendants would suffer from some serious
physical or mental hereditary defect.
(2) For the purposes of this law, any person will be considered as
hereditarily diseased who is suffering from any one of the following
diseases:-

(1) Congenital Mental Deficiency,
(2) Schizophrenia,
(3) Manic-Depressive Insanity,
(4) Hereditary Epilepsy,
(5) Hereditary Chorea (Huntington's),
(6) Hereditary Blindness,
(7) Hereditary Deafness,
(8) Any severe hereditary deformity.

(3) Any person suffering from severe alcoholism may be also
rendered incapable of procreation.

Lets give you the hard facts:

The moment you revert back to your pre-teen skool bully personality
you have closed the door on your source of information. You can either
laugh at people and call them crackpots OR you can ask them for
information.

You will never get both.

By picking the first you silence the source of information. By
behaving in such a way you have eliminated factors that could have led
you to the actual data. Your scientific method now evidently
eliminates it's own data before review.

Your type of scientists always do that. It's more the rule as the
exception. Must accept public slander if you want to share something.

GOOD SCIENCE!!!!

I'm just expanding the elimination drill to include your nonsense.

I'm not going to die because you are such ignorant [censored].

People are dieing SO no mercy for your lies.

Vehicles can be powered by wind.

Get used to it.

Oxygen deficiency cause most illness, disease. Without vital earth
element, human life, health would end.

Oxygen deficiency medical symptoms include: stomach acid, bacterial,
viral, parasitic infection, bronchial, chronic hostility, circulation
problems. Also depression, dizziness, fatigue, irrational behavior,
irritation, lowered immunity to colds, flu and infections, memory
loss, muscle aches, overall bodily weakness, poor digestion, tumors,
deposit buildups.

Ninety percent of our energy is created by oxygen. Our eliminative
processes consume larger amounts of oxygen to rid human bodies of
waste and toxins.

Scientists were stunned to discover that atmospheric oxygen level in
ancient times measured twice as high as that of today: We are being
more and more deprived of precious oxygen in the modern environment,
and it is causing serious health problems as numerous studies and
research on Oxygen Deficiency have proved.

Medical symptoms of oxygen deficiency include: acid stomach,
bacterial, viral and parasitic infections, bronchial problems, chronic
hostility, circulation problems, depression, dizziness, fatigue,
irrational behavior, irritation, lowered immunity to colds, flu and
infections, memory loss, muscle aches, overall bodily weakness, poor
digestion, tumors and deposit buildups.

These medical symptoms often begin with the vague feeling of
uneasiness. They progress over time, to full-blown illness and
disease. As stated in The Townsend Letter for Doctors: Cells
undergoing partial oxygen starvation send out tiny panic signals which
are collectively felt as the continuous vague sensation of uneasiness,
dread or disaster. This low level generalized warning tends to get
turned out as mere background noise by the individual experiencing it.
Or, it is attributed to other sources of uneasiness.

Cancer has only one prime cause. It is the replacement of normal
oxygen respiration of our bodies cells by an anaerobic (oxygen-
deficient) cell respiration. Dr. Otto Warburg. Two-time Nobel Laureate
Winner of the Nobel Prize For Cancer Research. etc etc etc
http://www.appliedozone.com/oxygen_deficiency_disease.html

Some guy mentioned he measured it for school in 1960. 30% it was.

So how is Ryan going to power his car when he doesn't have any oxygen
FOR HIS CAR!! Is this where the concentration camps come into the
picture?

Or will you just roll over and die with a sad face?

All this group can do is make stupid remarks?

You are like a farm with donkeys?

It's not scientific enough for you?

"The biggest mass extinction in Earth history some 251 million years
ago was preceded by elevated extinction rates before the main event
and was followed by a delayed recovery that lasted for millions of
years. New research by two University of Washington scientists
suggests that a sharp decline in atmospheric oxygen levels was likely
a major reason for both the elevated extinction rates and the very
slow recovery."
http://uwnews.org/article.asp?articleID=9592

But you don't have to worry.

Those in power didn't get there though nihilism and ignorance.

They are very realistic about global oxygen depletion.

The filthy rich will assassinate all of us in time. They might have to
move into their subterranean bunkers while designer diseases do all
the hard work. But they have room for millions of executives, there
are even subterranean shopping centers and office complexes.

Why do you think the world is changing into a totalitarian control
state?

It's about time the donkey farm woke up.

There might be more to life as entertainment between slavery.

This is a fun article on how Bush's grandfather helped [censored]'s rise
to power
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

Now isn't that good entertainment?

You feel uber already?

:-)

Chalo said:

Gaby De Wilde said:

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/vortex-recumbent

From the middle diagram, it is clearly seen that here we have a
vehicle propelled entirely by the force of Gaby blowing smoke up your
ass.

Chalo

perpetually

Ryan Cousineau said:

Oh, and I remembered it too late for my last response,

No I think you still have some time to create a decent response. This
wasn't it tho.

I'm refuting your crackpot claim by insulting you. Insults are good
science. You said so yourself.

You didn't like it to be called a fascistic scientist?

Why not Ryan you little Nazi?

But your condescending behaviour really qualifies as such.

definition of crackpot:
A person regarded as strange, eccentric, or crazy: crazy,
eccentric, lunatic. Informal crank, loon, loony. Slang cuckoo, ding-a-
ling, dingbat, kook, nut, screwball, weirdie, weirdo. See wise/
foolish.

I think you got the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics confused with the Nazi
law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring.

Here lets refresh that bookworm memory of yours.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_for_the_Prevention_of_Hereditarily_D...
(1) Any person suffering from a hereditary disease may be rendered
incapable of procreation by means of a surgical operation
(sterilization), if the experience of medical science shows that it is
highly probable that his descendants would suffer from some serious
physical or mental hereditary defect.
(2) For the purposes of this law, any person will be considered as
hereditarily diseased who is suffering from any one of the following
diseases:-

(1) Congenital Mental Deficiency,
(2) Schizophrenia,
(3) Manic-Depressive Insanity,
(4) Hereditary Epilepsy,
(5) Hereditary Chorea (Huntington's),
(6) Hereditary Blindness,
(7) Hereditary Deafness,
(8) Any severe hereditary deformity.

(3) Any person suffering from severe alcoholism may be also
rendered incapable of procreation.

Lets give you the hard facts:

The moment you revert back to your pre-teen skool bully personality
you have closed the door on your source of information. You can either
laugh at people and call them crackpots OR you can ask them for
information.

You will never get both.

By picking the first you silence the source of information. By
behaving in such a way you have eliminated factors that could have led
you to the actual data. Your scientific method now evidently
eliminates it's own data before review.

Your type of scientists always do that. It's more the rule as the
exception. Must accept public slander if you want to share something.

GOOD SCIENCE!!!!

I'm just expanding the elimination drill to include your nonsense.

I'm not going to die because you are such ignorant [censored].

People are dieing SO no mercy for your lies.

Vehicles can be powered by wind.

Get used to it.

Oxygen deficiency cause most illness, disease. Without vital earth
element, human life, health would end.

Oxygen deficiency medical symptoms include: stomach acid, bacterial,
viral, parasitic infection, bronchial, chronic hostility, circulation
problems. Also depression, dizziness, fatigue, irrational behavior,
irritation, lowered immunity to colds, flu and infections, memory
loss, muscle aches, overall bodily weakness, poor digestion, tumors,
deposit buildups.

Ninety percent of our energy is created by oxygen. Our eliminative
processes consume larger amounts of oxygen to rid human bodies of
waste and toxins.

Scientists were stunned to discover that atmospheric oxygen level in
ancient times measured twice as high as that of today: We are being
more and more deprived of precious oxygen in the modern environment,
and it is causing serious health problems as numerous studies and
research on Oxygen Deficiency have proved.

Medical symptoms of oxygen deficiency include: acid stomach,
bacterial, viral and parasitic infections, bronchial problems, chronic
hostility, circulation problems, depression, dizziness, fatigue,
irrational behavior, irritation, lowered immunity to colds, flu and
infections, memory loss, muscle aches, overall bodily weakness, poor
digestion, tumors and deposit buildups.

These medical symptoms often begin with the vague feeling of
uneasiness. They progress over time, to full-blown illness and
disease. As stated in The Townsend Letter for Doctors: Cells
undergoing partial oxygen starvation send out tiny panic signals which
are collectively felt as the continuous vague sensation of uneasiness,
dread or disaster. This low level generalized warning tends to get
turned out as mere background noise by the individual experiencing it.
Or, it is attributed to other sources of uneasiness.

Cancer has only one prime cause. It is the replacement of normal
oxygen respiration of our bodies cells by an anaerobic (oxygen-
deficient) cell respiration. Dr. Otto Warburg. Two-time Nobel Laureate
Winner of the Nobel Prize For Cancer Research. etc etc etc
http://www.appliedozone.com/oxygen_deficiency_disease.html

Some guy mentioned he measured it for school in 1960. 30% it was.

So how is Ryan going to power his car when he doesn't have any oxygen
FOR HIS CAR!! Is this where the concentration camps come into the
picture?

Or will you just roll over and die with a sad face?

All this group can do is make stupid remarks?

You are like a farm with donkeys?

It's not scientific enough for you?

"The biggest mass extinction in Earth history some 251 million years
ago was preceded by elevated extinction rates before the main event
and was followed by a delayed recovery that lasted for millions of
years. New research by two University of Washington scientists
suggests that a sharp decline in atmospheric oxygen levels was likely
a major reason for both the elevated extinction rates and the very
slow recovery."
http://uwnews.org/article.asp?articleID=9592

But you don't have to worry.

Those in power didn't get there though nihilism and ignorance.

They are very realistic about global oxygen depletion.

The filthy rich will assassinate all of us in time. They might have to
move into their subterranean bunkers while designer diseases do all
the hard work. But they have room for millions of executives, there
are even subterranean shopping centers and office complexes.

Why do you think the world is changing into a totalitarian control
state?

It's about time the donkey farm woke up.

There might be more to life as entertainment between slavery.

This is a fun article on how Bush's grandfather helped [censored]'s rise
to power
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

Now isn't that good entertainment?

You feel uber already?

:-)

Quoted post said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

Oh, and I remembered it too late for my last response,

No I think you still have some time to create a decent response. This
wasn't it tho.

I'm refuting your crackpot claim by insulting you. Insults are good
science. You said so yourself.

You didn't like it to be called a fascistic scientist?

Why not Ryan you little Nazi?

But your condescending behaviour really qualifies as such.

definition of crackpot:
A person regarded as strange, eccentric, or crazy: crazy,
eccentric, lunatic. Informal crank, loon, loony. Slang cuckoo, ding-a-
ling, dingbat, kook, nut, screwball, weirdie, weirdo. See wise/
foolish.

I think you got the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics confused with the Nazi
law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring.

Here lets refresh that bookworm memory of yours.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_for_the_Prevention_of_Hereditarily_D...
(1) Any person suffering from a hereditary disease may be rendered
incapable of procreation by means of a surgical operation
(sterilization), if the experience of medical science shows that it is
highly probable that his descendants would suffer from some serious
physical or mental hereditary defect.
(2) For the purposes of this law, any person will be considered as
hereditarily diseased who is suffering from any one of the following
diseases:-

(1) Congenital Mental Deficiency,
(2) Schizophrenia,
(3) Manic-Depressive Insanity,
(4) Hereditary Epilepsy,
(5) Hereditary Chorea (Huntington's),
(6) Hereditary Blindness,
(7) Hereditary Deafness,
(8) Any severe hereditary deformity.

(3) Any person suffering from severe alcoholism may be also
rendered incapable of procreation.

Lets give you the hard facts:

The moment you revert back to your pre-teen skool bully personality
you have closed the door on your source of information. You can either
laugh at people and call them crackpots OR you can ask them for
information.

You will never get both.

By picking the first you silence the source of information. By
behaving in such a way you have eliminated factors that could have led
you to the actual data. Your scientific method now evidently
eliminates it's own data before review.

Your type of scientists always do that. It's more the rule as the
exception. Must accept public slander if you want to share something.

GOOD SCIENCE!!!!

I'm just expanding the elimination drill to include your nonsense.

I'm not going to die because you are such ignorant [censored].

People are dieing SO no mercy for your lies.

Vehicles can be powered by wind.

Get used to it.

Oxygen deficiency cause most illness, disease. Without vital earth
element, human life, health would end.

Oxygen deficiency medical symptoms include: stomach acid, bacterial,
viral, parasitic infection, bronchial, chronic hostility, circulation
problems. Also depression, dizziness, fatigue, irrational behavior,
irritation, lowered immunity to colds, flu and infections, memory
loss, muscle aches, overall bodily weakness, poor digestion, tumors,
deposit buildups.

Ninety percent of our energy is created by oxygen. Our eliminative
processes consume larger amounts of oxygen to rid human bodies of
waste and toxins.

Scientists were stunned to discover that atmospheric oxygen level in
ancient times measured twice as high as that of today: We are being
more and more deprived of precious oxygen in the modern environment,
and it is causing serious health problems as numerous studies and
research on Oxygen Deficiency have proved.

Medical symptoms of oxygen deficiency include: acid stomach,
bacterial, viral and parasitic infections, bronchial problems, chronic
hostility, circulation problems, depression, dizziness, fatigue,
irrational behavior, irritation, lowered immunity to colds, flu and
infections, memory loss, muscle aches, overall bodily weakness, poor
digestion, tumors and deposit buildups.

These medical symptoms often begin with the vague feeling of
uneasiness. They progress over time, to full-blown illness and
disease. As stated in The Townsend Letter for Doctors: Cells
undergoing partial oxygen starvation send out tiny panic signals which
are collectively felt as the continuous vague sensation of uneasiness,
dread or disaster. This low level generalized warning tends to get
turned out as mere background noise by the individual experiencing it.
Or, it is attributed to other sources of uneasiness.

Cancer has only one prime cause. It is the replacement of normal
oxygen respiration of our bodies cells by an anaerobic (oxygen-
deficient) cell respiration. Dr. Otto Warburg. Two-time Nobel Laureate
Winner of the Nobel Prize For Cancer Research. etc etc etchttp://www.appliedozone.com/oxygen_deficiency_disease.html

Some guy mentioned he measured it for school in 1960. 30% it was.

So how is Ryan going to power his car when he doesn't have any oxygen
FOR HIS CAR!! Is this where the concentration camps come into the
picture?

Or will you just roll over and die with a sad face?

All this group can do is make stupid remarks?

You are like a farm with donkeys?

It's not scientific enough for you?

"The biggest mass extinction in Earth history some 251 million years
ago was preceded by elevated extinction rates before the main event
and was followed by a delayed recovery that lasted for millions of
years. New research by two University of Washington scientists
suggests that a sharp decline in atmospheric oxygen levels was likely
a major reason for both the elevated extinction rates and the very
slow recovery."http://uwnews.org/article.asp?articleID=9592

But you don't have to worry.

Those in power didn't get there though nihilism and ignorance.

They are very realistic about global oxygen depletion.

The filthy rich will assassinate all of us in time. They might have to
move into their subterranean bunkers while designer diseases do all
the hard work. But they have room for millions of executives, there
are even subterranean shopping centers and office complexes.

Why do you think the world is changing into a totalitarian control
state?

It's about time the donkey farm woke up.

There might be more to life as entertainment between slavery.

This is a fun article on how Bush's grandfather helped [censored]'s rise
to powerhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

Now isn't that good entertainment?

You feel uber already?

:-)