Cycle Lanes

"AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road. I was a
bit surprised to find

a

Quoted message said:

cyclist riding one in the opposite direction to everyone else today.

There's no quick answer to this AFAIK - for example, around here (in Warwickshire) there are
numerous "2 way" cycle lanes on just the one side of the road, indeed some share with pedestrians -
but they are on the pavement.

If you are talking about the cycle routes that are either a simple white line a metre or so out from
the kerb, or the coloured (green or red) on road surfaces then logic would prevail that they are
"with" the traffic unless otherwise signed (e.g. I noticed in Warwick today a street that was one
way for cars but had a two way coloured surface cycle path - BUT it was clearly marked with the
usual blue signs)

If you have a specific question on a particular route the Cycling Officer at the LA should be able
to answer.

RG

"AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road. I was a
bit surprised to find

a

Quoted message said:

cyclist riding one in the opposite direction to everyone else today.

There's no quick answer to this AFAIK - for example, around here (in Warwickshire) there are
numerous "2 way" cycle lanes on just the one side of the road, indeed some share with pedestrians -
but they are on the pavement.

If you are talking about the cycle routes that are either a simple white line a metre or so out from
the kerb, or the coloured (green or red) on road surfaces then logic would prevail that they are
"with" the traffic unless otherwise signed (e.g. I noticed in Warwick today a street that was one
way for cars but had a two way coloured surface cycle path - BUT it was clearly marked with the
usual blue signs)

If you have a specific question on a particular route the Cycling Officer at the LA should be able
to answer.

RG

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:47:26 -0000 someone who may be "AndyP" <[email hidden]>
wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road.

Yes and no.

AFAIK there is nothing in law to make it only legal to ride or drive on the left side of the road,
except where there are islands and the like where there are arrows to keep to the left.

--
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keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

"AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road. I was a
bit surprised to find

a

Quoted message said:

cyclist riding one in the opposite direction to everyone else today.

There's no quick answer to this AFAIK - for example, around here (in Warwickshire) there are
numerous "2 way" cycle lanes on just the one side of the road, indeed some share with pedestrians -
but they are on the pavement.

If you are talking about the cycle routes that are either a simple white line a metre or so out from
the kerb, or the coloured (green or red) on road surfaces then logic would prevail that they are
"with" the traffic unless otherwise signed (e.g. I noticed in Warwick today a street that was one
way for cars but had a two way coloured surface cycle path - BUT it was clearly marked with the
usual blue signs)

If you have a specific question on a particular route the Cycling Officer at the LA should be able
to answer.

RG

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:47:26 -0000 someone who may be "AndyP" <[email hidden]>
wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road.

Yes and no.

AFAIK there is nothing in law to make it only legal to ride or drive on the left side of the road,
except where there are islands and the like where there are arrows to keep to the left.

--
David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked
keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

"AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road. I was a
bit surprised to find

a

Quoted message said:

cyclist riding one in the opposite direction to everyone else today.

The first time it happened to me I was surprised too. Now it no longer surprises me but it still
irritates me a lot even when I'm not actually using the lane (generally I prefer to keep out of
them but they are still occasionally useful for passing stationary traffic). It can't actually be
illegal to do it but it is, to my mind, stupid to do it. Lanes which are not intended for
bi-directional traffic are generally not wide enough for it either, so cyclists using the lane with
flow become involved in head-on conflict with the wrong-way cyclist, not knowing which way to go to
get around him.

I see it as just another symptom of POB immaturity - someone who doesn't know how to use the roads
properly and doesn't care to learn, too selfish to think about how their behaviour affects other
road users, and too stupid to realise they are causing increased risk to themselves as well by their
flawed thinking that if it's a cycle lane they must be in it, even if they're going the wrong way
and it's not intended to be used in that way. Pretty much the same level of idiocy as people who put
their lights on wrong way round, as remarked in other thread, but perhaps a bit more common.

Rich

"AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road. I was a
bit surprised to find

a

Quoted message said:

cyclist riding one in the opposite direction to everyone else today.

The first time it happened to me I was surprised too. Now it no longer surprises me but it still
irritates me a lot even when I'm not actually using the lane (generally I prefer to keep out of
them but they are still occasionally useful for passing stationary traffic). It can't actually be
illegal to do it but it is, to my mind, stupid to do it. Lanes which are not intended for
bi-directional traffic are generally not wide enough for it either, so cyclists using the lane with
flow become involved in head-on conflict with the wrong-way cyclist, not knowing which way to go to
get around him.

I see it as just another symptom of POB immaturity - someone who doesn't know how to use the roads
properly and doesn't care to learn, too selfish to think about how their behaviour affects other
road users, and too stupid to realise they are causing increased risk to themselves as well by their
flawed thinking that if it's a cycle lane they must be in it, even if they're going the wrong way
and it's not intended to be used in that way. Pretty much the same level of idiocy as people who put
their lights on wrong way round, as remarked in other thread, but perhaps a bit more common.

Rich

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:47:26 -0000 someone who may be "AndyP" <[email hidden]>
wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road.

Yes and no.

AFAIK there is nothing in law to make it only legal to ride or drive on the left side of the road,
except where there are islands and the like where there are arrows to keep to the left.

--
David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked
keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

"AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road. I was a
bit surprised to find

a

Quoted message said:

cyclist riding one in the opposite direction to everyone else today.

The first time it happened to me I was surprised too. Now it no longer surprises me but it still
irritates me a lot even when I'm not actually using the lane (generally I prefer to keep out of
them but they are still occasionally useful for passing stationary traffic). It can't actually be
illegal to do it but it is, to my mind, stupid to do it. Lanes which are not intended for
bi-directional traffic are generally not wide enough for it either, so cyclists using the lane with
flow become involved in head-on conflict with the wrong-way cyclist, not knowing which way to go to
get around him.

I see it as just another symptom of POB immaturity - someone who doesn't know how to use the roads
properly and doesn't care to learn, too selfish to think about how their behaviour affects other
road users, and too stupid to realise they are causing increased risk to themselves as well by their
flawed thinking that if it's a cycle lane they must be in it, even if they're going the wrong way
and it's not intended to be used in that way. Pretty much the same level of idiocy as people who put
their lights on wrong way round, as remarked in other thread, but perhaps a bit more common.

Rich

AndyP said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road. I was a
bit surprised to find a cyclist riding one in the opposite direction to everyone else today.

This is actually very dangerous (3 times as dangerous as riding on the road in the normal direction
of travel) according to a Californian study <URL:
bicyclinglife.comriskfactors.htmOpen ↗ >

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Morning had broken. I found a rather battered tube of Araldite resin in the bottom of
the toolbag.

AndyP said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road. I was a
bit surprised to find a cyclist riding one in the opposite direction to everyone else today.

This is actually very dangerous (3 times as dangerous as riding on the road in the normal direction
of travel) according to a Californian study <URL:
bicyclinglife.comriskfactors.htmOpen ↗ >

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) jasmine.org.uk~simonOpen ↗

Morning had broken. I found a rather battered tube of Araldite resin in the bottom of
the toolbag.

AndyP said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road. I was a
bit surprised to find a cyclist riding one in the opposite direction to everyone else today.

This is actually very dangerous (3 times as dangerous as riding on the road in the normal direction
of travel) according to a Californian study <URL:
bicyclinglife.comriskfactors.htmOpen ↗ >

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) jasmine.org.uk~simonOpen ↗

Morning had broken. I found a rather battered tube of Araldite resin in the bottom of
the toolbag.

"David Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:47:26 -0000 someone who may be "AndyP"
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road.

Yes and no.

AFAIK there is nothing in law to make it only legal to ride or drive on the left side of the road,
except where there are islands and the like where there are arrows to keep to the left.

What he said, but additionally, it is conventional to pass oncoming traffic on the left. I don't
know if that's a legal requirement

"David Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:47:26 -0000 someone who may be "AndyP"
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road.

Yes and no.

AFAIK there is nothing in law to make it only legal to ride or drive on the left side of the road,
except where there are islands and the like where there are arrows to keep to the left.

What he said, but additionally, it is conventional to pass oncoming traffic on the left. I don't
know if that's a legal requirement

"David Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:47:26 -0000 someone who may be "AndyP"
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

If there's a cycle lane marked out on one side of the road only is there anything in the highway
code to say you should only use it in the same direction as traffic flow on the main road.

Yes and no.

AFAIK there is nothing in law to make it only legal to ride or drive on the left side of the road,
except where there are islands and the like where there are arrows to keep to the left.

What he said, but additionally, it is conventional to pass oncoming traffic on the left. I don't
know if that's a legal requirement

Nathaniel Porter said:

What he said, but additionally, it is conventional to pass oncoming traffic on the left. I don't
know if that's a legal requirement

Left ?

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Nathaniel Porter said:

What he said, but additionally, it is conventional to pass oncoming traffic on the left. I don't
know if that's a legal requirement

Left ?

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Nathaniel Porter said:

What he said, but additionally, it is conventional to pass oncoming traffic on the left. I don't
know if that's a legal requirement

Left ?

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MSeries said:

Nathaniel Porter said:

What he said, but additionally, it is conventional to pass oncoming traffic on the left. I don't
know if that's a legal requirement

Left ?

My left or the on coming traffic's left. Or to the left of the on coming traffic ? (i.e his or my
right) :-)

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