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SimonC said:

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James Annan said:

Peter Clinch said:

For a start witness the way that punts are often steered using the pole as a rudder

Only by those who lack the competence to do it properly, pole in one hand and Pimms in the other.
It's all in the angle of the thrust.

Apparently.

Not. The thrust provides some directional control. The pole in the water provides the steering and
minor course correction. Done correctly one hardly notices the steering phase as the pole is
withdrawn (except when doing a full
180) but its there. Lesser punters need to keep the pole in the water longer to correct the poor
thrust control. Even lesser punters don't realise the steering phase and richochet from one
bank to the other as a result of uncorrected lousy thrust control.

Tony (Oxbridge end) Raven

James Annan said:

Peter Clinch said:

For a start witness the way that punts are often steered using the pole as a rudder

Only by those who lack the competence to do it properly, pole in one hand and Pimms in the other.
It's all in the angle of the thrust.

Apparently.

Not. The thrust provides some directional control. The pole in the water provides the steering and
minor course correction. Done correctly one hardly notices the steering phase as the pole is
withdrawn (except when doing a full
180) but its there. Lesser punters need to keep the pole in the water longer to correct the poor
thrust control. Even lesser punters don't realise the steering phase and richochet from one
bank to the other as a result of uncorrected lousy thrust control.

Tony (Oxbridge end) Raven

James Annan said:

Peter Clinch said:

For a start witness the way that punts are often steered using the pole as a rudder

Only by those who lack the competence to do it properly, pole in one hand and Pimms in the other.
It's all in the angle of the thrust.

Apparently.

Not. The thrust provides some directional control. The pole in the water provides the steering and
minor course correction. Done correctly one hardly notices the steering phase as the pole is
withdrawn (except when doing a full
180) but its there. Lesser punters need to keep the pole in the water longer to correct the poor
thrust control. Even lesser punters don't realise the steering phase and richochet from one
bank to the other as a result of uncorrected lousy thrust control.

Tony (Oxbridge end) Raven

Tony Raven said:

You must be a fan of Mornington Crescent

Tony

Curses, ive been rumbled.

Tony Raven said:

You must be a fan of Mornington Crescent

Tony

Curses, ive been rumbled.

Tony Raven said:

You must be a fan of Mornington Crescent

Tony

Curses, ive been rumbled.

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:53:52 +0000, in
<[email hidden]>, Henry Braun

Quoted message said:

Tony Raven said:

I made the pole bit up to cover the topic of punts in the original post. It would seem a natural
extrapololation from oars and paddles. If the punt is out of pole depth then you would be having
serious problems with a bike. Unlike a bike, a punt navigating out of poles depth cannot be
propelled but can be manoeuvred. Any half decent punter will tell you that the pole on the bottom
provides mainly propulsion, the pole in the water provides steering.

Conversely, in rivers of the sort of depth on which you could bicycle, there is a small enough
proportion of the pole in the water during a normal stroke, and the foot of the pole is at such a
great distance from the centre of gravity of the boat at the end of the stroke, that almost all the
steering has to be done against the bottom. An extreme-pricking style can help.

There was a young lady from Bude Who went for a swim in the lake But a man in a punt Shoved his pole
up her nose And said "OI, don't swim here"
--
Sig got lost during a reinstall

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:53:52 +0000, in
<[email hidden]>, Henry Braun

Quoted message said:

Tony Raven said:

I made the pole bit up to cover the topic of punts in the original post. It would seem a natural
extrapololation from oars and paddles. If the punt is out of pole depth then you would be having
serious problems with a bike. Unlike a bike, a punt navigating out of poles depth cannot be
propelled but can be manoeuvred. Any half decent punter will tell you that the pole on the bottom
provides mainly propulsion, the pole in the water provides steering.

Conversely, in rivers of the sort of depth on which you could bicycle, there is a small enough
proportion of the pole in the water during a normal stroke, and the foot of the pole is at such a
great distance from the centre of gravity of the boat at the end of the stroke, that almost all the
steering has to be done against the bottom. An extreme-pricking style can help.

There was a young lady from Bude Who went for a swim in the lake But a man in a punt Shoved his pole
up her nose And said "OI, don't swim here"
--
Sig got lost during a reinstall

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:53:52 +0000, in
<[email hidden]>, Henry Braun

Quoted message said:

Tony Raven said:

I made the pole bit up to cover the topic of punts in the original post. It would seem a natural
extrapololation from oars and paddles. If the punt is out of pole depth then you would be having
serious problems with a bike. Unlike a bike, a punt navigating out of poles depth cannot be
propelled but can be manoeuvred. Any half decent punter will tell you that the pole on the bottom
provides mainly propulsion, the pole in the water provides steering.

Conversely, in rivers of the sort of depth on which you could bicycle, there is a small enough
proportion of the pole in the water during a normal stroke, and the foot of the pole is at such a
great distance from the centre of gravity of the boat at the end of the stroke, that almost all the
steering has to be done against the bottom. An extreme-pricking style can help.

There was a young lady from Bude Who went for a swim in the lake But a man in a punt Shoved his pole
up her nose And said "OI, don't swim here"
--
Sig got lost during a reinstall

Richard Bates said:

There was a young lady from Bude Who went for a swim in the lake But a man in a punt Shoved his
pole up her nose And said "OI, don't swim here"

It is quite clear from the lack of rhyme that you have changed it from:

There was a young lady from Brake Who went for a swim in the lake But a man in a doze Shoved a pole
up her nose And said "Oi don't swim here for Chrissake"

Tony ;-)

Richard Bates said:

There was a young lady from Bude Who went for a swim in the lake But a man in a punt Shoved his
pole up her nose And said "OI, don't swim here"

It is quite clear from the lack of rhyme that you have changed it from:

There was a young lady from Brake Who went for a swim in the lake But a man in a doze Shoved a pole
up her nose And said "Oi don't swim here for Chrissake"

Tony ;-)

Richard Bates said:

There was a young lady from Bude Who went for a swim in the lake But a man in a punt Shoved his
pole up her nose And said "OI, don't swim here"

It is quite clear from the lack of rhyme that you have changed it from:

There was a young lady from Brake Who went for a swim in the lake But a man in a doze Shoved a pole
up her nose And said "Oi don't swim here for Chrissake"

Tony ;-)

Tony Raven said:

Not. The thrust provides some directional control. The pole in the water provides the steering and
minor course correction.

But one-handed prevents any real steering, unless you lever the pole against the edge of the punt
which is rather clumsy. Also the pole has to be pulled out in a single rapid `throw' rather than
dragged slowly through the water. I prefer my answer, although the memories are fading...

Quoted message said:

Tony (Oxbridge end) Raven

Eh? Wassat?

James

Tony Raven said:

Not. The thrust provides some directional control. The pole in the water provides the steering and
minor course correction.

But one-handed prevents any real steering, unless you lever the pole against the edge of the punt
which is rather clumsy. Also the pole has to be pulled out in a single rapid `throw' rather than
dragged slowly through the water. I prefer my answer, although the memories are fading...

Quoted message said:

Tony (Oxbridge end) Raven

Eh? Wassat?

James

Tony Raven said:

Not. The thrust provides some directional control. The pole in the water provides the steering and
minor course correction.

But one-handed prevents any real steering, unless you lever the pole against the edge of the punt
which is rather clumsy. Also the pole has to be pulled out in a single rapid `throw' rather than
dragged slowly through the water. I prefer my answer, although the memories are fading...

Quoted message said:

Tony (Oxbridge end) Raven

Eh? Wassat?

James

On 5/12/03 2:42 pm, in article [email hidden], "Henry

Braun said:

If, though, you're quanting your 30' Broads cabin-cruiser up the Yure against the tide, you have
no chance if you stray out of your depth. There's punting and punting, after all.

Now that brings back memories of my youth.

Sailing downstream to Potter Heigham, dropping the sails and mast 'on the run' and shooting the
bridge, remembering to time the last quant before the bridge so that you were at the stern and could
duck under the bridge.

Loads of fun with a competent crew and extremely interesting with novices!

..d

On 5/12/03 2:42 pm, in article [email hidden], "Henry

Braun said:

If, though, you're quanting your 30' Broads cabin-cruiser up the Yure against the tide, you have
no chance if you stray out of your depth. There's punting and punting, after all.

Now that brings back memories of my youth.

Sailing downstream to Potter Heigham, dropping the sails and mast 'on the run' and shooting the
bridge, remembering to time the last quant before the bridge so that you were at the stern and could
duck under the bridge.

Loads of fun with a competent crew and extremely interesting with novices!

..d

On 5/12/03 2:42 pm, in article [email hidden], "Henry

Braun said:

If, though, you're quanting your 30' Broads cabin-cruiser up the Yure against the tide, you have
no chance if you stray out of your depth. There's punting and punting, after all.

Now that brings back memories of my youth.

Sailing downstream to Potter Heigham, dropping the sails and mast 'on the run' and shooting the
bridge, remembering to time the last quant before the bridge so that you were at the stern and could
duck under the bridge.

Loads of fun with a competent crew and extremely interesting with novices!

..d

James Annan said:

Quoted message said:

Tony (Oxbridge end) Raven

Eh? Wassat?

Well which end of the punt did you punt from, the Oxford (sloping) end or the Cambridge (flat bit)
end. If you are up to it you can punt from either.

Tony