Where do you get the reference to poles from, out of interest? A poled punt is arguably constrained by reason of its draught---it can't manoeuvre once it's strayed out of the pole's depth
drifting OT, if you can imagine sucj a thing here...
Not so. A punt or canoe pole works reasonably effectively as a paddle. For a start witness the way that punts are often steered using the pole as a rudder, which wouldn't be possible if they had no effective resistance to the water. I've paddled an open canoe using a long canoe pole like a very slim kayak paddle when I was out of the depth of the pole.
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Where do you get the reference to poles from, out of interest? A poled punt is arguably constrained by reason of its draught---it can't manoeuvre once it's strayed out of the pole's depth
drifting OT, if you can imagine sucj a thing here...
Not so. A punt or canoe pole works reasonably effectively as a paddle. For a start witness the way that punts are often steered using the pole as a rudder, which wouldn't be possible if they had no effective resistance to the water. I've paddled an open canoe using a long canoe pole like a very slim kayak paddle when I was out of the depth of the pole.
Pete. -- Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] dundee.ac.uk~pjclinchOpen ↗
Where do you get the reference to poles from, out of interest? A poled punt is arguably constrained by reason of its draught---it can't manoeuvre once it's strayed out of the pole's depth
drifting OT, if you can imagine sucj a thing here...
Not so. A punt or canoe pole works reasonably effectively as a paddle. For a start witness the way that punts are often steered using the pole as a rudder, which wouldn't be possible if they had no effective resistance to the water. I've paddled an open canoe using a long canoe pole like a very slim kayak paddle when I was out of the depth of the pole.
Pete. -- Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] dundee.ac.uk~pjclinchOpen ↗
That would depend. The bicycle as a powered vessel must give way to a vessel propelled by oars, pole or paddles.
Where do you get the reference to poles from, out of interest? A poled punt is arguably constrained by reason of its draught---it can't manoeuvre once it's strayed out of the pole's depth---and the same reasoning ought to hold for bottom-propelled bicycles.
I made the pole bit up to cover the topic of punts in the original post. It would seem a natural extrapololation from oars and paddles. If the punt is out of pole depth then you would be having serious problems with a bike. Unlike a bike, a punt navigating out of poles depth cannot be propelled but can be manoeuvred. Any half decent punter will tell you that the pole on the bottom provides mainly propulsion, the pole in the water provides steering.
That would depend. The bicycle as a powered vessel must give way to a vessel propelled by oars, pole or paddles.
Where do you get the reference to poles from, out of interest? A poled punt is arguably constrained by reason of its draught---it can't manoeuvre once it's strayed out of the pole's depth---and the same reasoning ought to hold for bottom-propelled bicycles.
I made the pole bit up to cover the topic of punts in the original post. It would seem a natural extrapololation from oars and paddles. If the punt is out of pole depth then you would be having serious problems with a bike. Unlike a bike, a punt navigating out of poles depth cannot be propelled but can be manoeuvred. Any half decent punter will tell you that the pole on the bottom provides mainly propulsion, the pole in the water provides steering.
That would depend. The bicycle as a powered vessel must give way to a vessel propelled by oars, pole or paddles.
Where do you get the reference to poles from, out of interest? A poled punt is arguably constrained by reason of its draught---it can't manoeuvre once it's strayed out of the pole's depth---and the same reasoning ought to hold for bottom-propelled bicycles.
I made the pole bit up to cover the topic of punts in the original post. It would seem a natural extrapololation from oars and paddles. If the punt is out of pole depth then you would be having serious problems with a bike. Unlike a bike, a punt navigating out of poles depth cannot be propelled but can be manoeuvred. Any half decent punter will tell you that the pole on the bottom provides mainly propulsion, the pole in the water provides steering.
I think this is in reference to a reverse Polish oarsman rather than the pole used on punts. But you raise a good point, I have checked the unabridged I'm a Massive Punt by Smith et al but can find no references to being out of ones depth with a short pole in it. I guess we're up [censored] creek.
I think this is in reference to a reverse Polish oarsman rather than the pole used on punts. But you raise a good point, I have checked the unabridged I'm a Massive Punt by Smith et al but can find no references to being out of ones depth with a short pole in it. I guess we're up [censored] creek.
I think this is in reference to a reverse Polish oarsman rather than the pole used on punts. But you raise a good point, I have checked the unabridged I'm a Massive Punt by Smith et al but can find no references to being out of ones depth with a short pole in it. I guess we're up [censored] creek.
Only by those who lack the competence to do it properly, pole in one hand and Pimms in the other. It's all in the angle of the thrust.
Apparently.
You're quite probably right. My last trip in a punt was a few years ago, but I was quite pleased with my progress about the environs of sunny Oxford and proved rather better at the game than several inexperienced friends. Then one of the locals took over, and we went further, faster with less effort and less need for all that extra steering nonsense. But if you *do* need that, the pole works just fine!
Pete. -- Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] dundee.ac.uk~pjclinchOpen ↗
Only by those who lack the competence to do it properly, pole in one hand and Pimms in the other. It's all in the angle of the thrust.
Apparently.
You're quite probably right. My last trip in a punt was a few years ago, but I was quite pleased with my progress about the environs of sunny Oxford and proved rather better at the game than several inexperienced friends. Then one of the locals took over, and we went further, faster with less effort and less need for all that extra steering nonsense. But if you *do* need that, the pole works just fine!
Pete. -- Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] dundee.ac.uk~pjclinchOpen ↗
Only by those who lack the competence to do it properly, pole in one hand and Pimms in the other. It's all in the angle of the thrust.
Apparently.
You're quite probably right. My last trip in a punt was a few years ago, but I was quite pleased with my progress about the environs of sunny Oxford and proved rather better at the game than several inexperienced friends. Then one of the locals took over, and we went further, faster with less effort and less need for all that extra steering nonsense. But if you *do* need that, the pole works just fine!
Pete. -- Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] dundee.ac.uk~pjclinchOpen ↗
