rim recommendations?

Kerry Montgomery said:

Hi all,
I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s) bike to
clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would recommend? Need to be
silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep V), and good quality. I'm about
180 pounds.
Thanks,
Kerry

can't go wrong with some Sun cr-18s in polished alu.

http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/COMPRMRDSUN/RM8491

landotter said:

Kerry Montgomery said:

Hi all,
I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s) bike to
clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would recommend? Need to be
silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep V), and good quality. I'm about
180 pounds.
Thanks,
Kerry

can't go wrong with some Sun cr-18s in polished alu.

http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/COMPRMRDSUN/RM8491

Science says Landotter is correct.

someone said:

Quoted message said:

I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s)
bike to clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would
recommend? Need to be silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep
V), and good quality. I'm about 180 pounds.

Quoted message said:

can't go wrong with some Sun cr-18s in polished alu.

http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/COMPRMRDSUN/RM8491

No sockets! No good although they might "look" right.

Jobst Brandt

Quoted message said:

someone said:

Quoted message said:

I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s)
bike to clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would
recommend? Need to be silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep
V), and good quality. I'm about 180 pounds.

can't go wrong with some Sun cr-18s in polished alu.

http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/COMPRMRDSUN/RM8491

No sockets! No good

Horseshit

Quoted message said:

although they might "look" right.

Jobst Brandt

Kerry Montgomery said:

Hi all,
I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s) bike to
clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would recommend? Need to be
silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep V), and good quality. I'm about
180 pounds.
Thanks,
Kerry

You can still get 1970/80 700c rims NOS on Ebay if you watch for a
while. Then ur still vintage.

Ozark Bicycle said:

Quoted message said:

someone said:

> I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s)
> bike to clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would
> recommend? Need to be silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep
> V), and good quality. I'm about 180 pounds.
can't go wrong with some Sun cr-18s in polished alu.

http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/COMPRMRDSUN/RM8491

No sockets! No good

Horseshit

The two hand built wheels I have with Sun CR-18 rims (ISO 406-mm size)
are now about 7 years old, and show no cracking around the spoke holes.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore!

Tom Sherman said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

Quoted message said:

someone writes:
>> I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s)
>> bike to clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would
>> recommend? Need to be silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep
>> V), and good quality. I'm about 180 pounds.
> can't go wrong with some Sun cr-18s in polished alu.
http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/COMPRMRDSUN/RM8491

No sockets! No good

Horseshit

The two hand built wheels I have with Sun CR-18 rims (ISO 406-mm size)
are now about 7 years old, and show no cracking around the spoke holes.

what is your spoke tension?

jim beam said:

Tom Sherman said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

On Oct 9, 8:58 pm, [email hidden] wrote:
> someone writes:
>>> I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s)
>>> bike to clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would
>>> recommend? Need to be silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep
>>> V), and good quality. I'm about 180 pounds.
>> can't go wrong with some Sun cr-18s in polished alu.
> http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/COMPRMRDSUN/RM8491
>
> No sockets! No good

Horseshit

The two hand built wheels I have with Sun CR-18 rims (ISO 406-mm size)
are now about 7 years old, and show no cracking around the spoke holes.

what is your spoke tension?

Adequate.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore!

still me said:

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 16:45:08 -0700, "Kerry Montgomery"

Quoted message said:

Hi all,
I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s) bike to
clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would recommend? Need to be
silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep V), and good quality. I'm about
180 pounds.
Thanks,
Kerry

You can still get 1970/80 700c rims NOS on Ebay if you watch for a
while. Then ur still vintage.

Be careful with that unless you're sticking with freewheels, though.
Many older rims can't take the higher drive-side vs. non-drive-side
tension imbalance of 8/9/10 speed freehubs. I have a Super Champion
Record Du Monde laced to a Veloce freehub as part of a set of semi-
retro, tied & soldered sewups on my PX-10. I pretty much have to re-
true that rear after every ride, so I don't ride those wheels very
often.

Andy Muzi has this to say on his page for the Rigida 1622 classic
touring rim ( http://www.yellowjersey.org/1622.html ):

"These classic design rims build well in 120mm and 125mm formats. They
are simply neither heavy enough nor stiff enough to build a modern
130mm or 135mm wheel with its concomitantly high and uneven tension.
If that isn't clear to you, you and I should correspond."

"Hank Wirtz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

still me said:

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 16:45:08 -0700, "Kerry Montgomery"

Quoted message said:

Hi all,
I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s) bike
to
clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would recommend? Need to be
silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep V), and good quality. I'm
about
180 pounds.
Thanks,
Kerry

You can still get 1970/80 700c rims NOS on Ebay if you watch for a
while. Then ur still vintage.

Be careful with that unless you're sticking with freewheels, though.
Many older rims can't take the higher drive-side vs. non-drive-side
tension imbalance of 8/9/10 speed freehubs. I have a Super Champion
Record Du Monde laced to a Veloce freehub as part of a set of semi-
retro, tied & soldered sewups on my PX-10. I pretty much have to re-
true that rear after every ride, so I don't ride those wheels very
often.

Andy Muzi has this to say on his page for the Rigida 1622 classic
touring rim ( http://www.yellowjersey.org/1622.html ):

"These classic design rims build well in 120mm and 125mm formats. They
are simply neither heavy enough nor stiff enough to build a modern
130mm or 135mm wheel with its concomitantly high and uneven tension.
If that isn't clear to you, you and I should correspond."

Hank,
Thanks for the warning - that shouldn't be a problem, as will build 'em with
120mm hubs.
Thanks again,
Kerry

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Quoted message said:

someone said:

Quoted message said:

I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s)
bike to clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would
recommend? Need to be silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep
V), and good quality. I'm about 180 pounds.

Quoted message said:

can't go wrong with some Sun cr-18s in polished alu.

http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/COMPRMRDSUN/RM8491

No sockets! No good although they might "look" right.

Jobst Brandt

Jobst,
Any suggestions for rims that will both be good and look right?
Thanks,
Kerry

Hank Wirtz said:

still me said:

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 16:45:08 -0700, "Kerry Montgomery"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hi all,
I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s) bike to
clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would recommend? Need to be
silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep V), and good quality. I'm about
180 pounds.
Thanks,
Kerry

Quoted message said:

You can still get 1970/80 700c rims NOS on Ebay if you watch for a
while. Then ur still vintage.

Be careful with that unless you're sticking with freewheels, though.
Many older rims can't take the higher drive-side vs. non-drive-side
tension imbalance of 8/9/10 speed freehubs. I have a Super Champion
Record Du Monde laced to a Veloce freehub as part of a set of semi-
retro, tied & soldered sewups on my PX-10. I pretty much have to re-
true that rear after every ride, so I don't ride those wheels very
often.

Andy Muzi has this to say on his page for the Rigida 1622 classic
touring rim (http://www.yellowjersey.org/1622.html):

"These classic design rims build well in 120mm and 125mm formats. They
are simply neither heavy enough nor stiff enough to build a modern
130mm or 135mm wheel with its concomitantly high and uneven tension.
If that isn't clear to you, you and I should correspond."

I have always liked the unique and honest look of this whole site,
with its BIG pictures, and how it works --- hope it doesn't change.
But, I'm not sure if that caution applies to those 560g 36 hole
Rigidas, to those cowering lightweights pictured below it, or to
both.

--

Spike

In article <[email hidden]>,

Kerry Montgomery said:

Hi all,
I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s) bike to
clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would recommend? Need to be
silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep V), and good quality. I'm about
180 pounds.

Sun CR18. Shiny, strong, durable, cheap.
Hard to believe. Check it out.

<URL:http://www.lickbike.com/productpage.aspx?PART_NUM_SUB='2084-32'>

--
Michael Press

In article <[email hidden]>,

Tom Sherman said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

Quoted message said:

someone writes:
>> I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s)
>> bike to clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would
>> recommend? Need to be silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep
>> V), and good quality. I'm about 180 pounds.
> can't go wrong with some Sun cr-18s in polished alu.
http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/COMPRMRDSUN/RM8491

No sockets! No good

Horseshit

The two hand built wheels I have with Sun CR-18 rims (ISO 406-mm size)
are now about 7 years old, and show no cracking around the spoke holes.

I wish they had sockets but there is no Easter Bunny either.
My 630 CR18 wheels are turning after a similar elapsed time.
I used the tension until buckle scheme when building them.

--
Michael Press

Hank Wirtz said:

still me said:

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 16:45:08 -0700, "Kerry Montgomery"

Quoted message said:

Hi all,
I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s) bike to
clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would recommend? Need to be
silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep V), and good quality. I'm about
180 pounds.
Thanks,
Kerry

You can still get 1970/80 700c rims NOS on Ebay if you watch for a
while. Then ur still vintage.

Be careful with that unless you're sticking with freewheels, though.
Many older rims can't take the higher drive-side vs. non-drive-side
tension imbalance of 8/9/10 speed freehubs. I have a Super Champion
Record Du Monde laced to a Veloce freehub as part of a set of semi-
retro, tied & soldered sewups on my PX-10. I pretty much have to re-
true that rear after every ride, so I don't ride those wheels very
often.

That must be a chore, unsoldering and resoldering each spoke every time you
true the wheel.

Tom Sherman said:

jim beam said:

Tom Sherman said:

Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> On Oct 9, 8:58 pm, [email hidden] wrote:
>> someone writes:
>>>> I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s)
>>>> bike to clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would
>>>> recommend? Need to be silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep
>>>> V), and good quality. I'm about 180 pounds.
>>> can't go wrong with some Sun cr-18s in polished alu.
>> http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/COMPRMRDSUN/RM8491

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> No sockets! No good

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Horseshit

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The two hand built wheels I have with Sun CR-18 rims (ISO 406-mm size)
are now about 7 years old, and show no cracking around the spoke holes.

Quoted message said:

what is your spoke tension.

Quoted message said:

Adequate.

[applause]

I usually tension till all go ping instead of pong.

Tom Sherman said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

Quoted message said:

someone writes:
>> I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s)
>> bike to clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would
>> recommend? Need to be silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep
>> V), and good quality. I'm about 180 pounds.
> can't go wrong with some Sun cr-18s in polished alu.
http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/COMPRMRDSUN/RM8491

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

No sockets! No good

Quoted message said:

Horseshit

The two hand built wheels I have with Sun CR-18 rims (ISO 406-mm size)
are now about 7 years old, and show no cracking around the spoke holes.

Thanks for agreeing that Brandt's comments ("No sockets! No good"😉 are
horseshit.

Does this put your lifetime membership in the "I Brown Nose for
Brandt" club in jeopardy? ;-)

Kerry Montgomery said:

I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s) bike to
clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would recommend? Need to be
silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep V), and good quality. I'm about
180 pounds.

If the tubie rims held up OK under you, then the Sun M13-II would
probably work. It's an old-fashioned looking rim to my eyes, but
attractive. It has a rounded profile in contrast to the wider CR-18's
faceted shape.

Either of these Sun rims looks far better in the bright polished
finish than in a matte anodized finish.

Chalo

_ said:

Hank Wirtz said:

still me said:

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 16:45:08 -0700, "Kerry Montgomery"

<[email hidden]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I want to build a pair of 700C wheels to convert a vintage (1970s) bike to
> clincher tires. Was wondering what rims you would recommend? Need to be
> silver, 36h, look vintage (not aero nor deep V), and good quality. I'm about
> 180 pounds.
> Thanks,
> Kerry
You can still get 1970/80 700c rims NOS on Ebay if you watch for a
while. Then ur still vintage.

Be careful with that unless you're sticking with freewheels, though.
Many older rims can't take the higher drive-side vs. non-drive-side
tension imbalance of 8/9/10 speed freehubs. I have a Super Champion
Record Du Monde laced to a Veloce freehub as part of a set of semi-
retro, tied & soldered sewups on my PX-10. I pretty much have to re-
true that rear after every ride, so I don't ride those wheels very
often.

That must be a chore, unsoldering and resoldering each spoke every time you
true the wheel.

not necessary. it's the rim that adjusts relative to the spoke, not the
spoke relative to the rim.