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| I've never cut back on carbs to lose weight and I know that every
| person is different. Has anyone lost any weight off just cutting carbs
| alone?

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| I've never cut back on carbs to lose weight and I know that every
| person is different. Has anyone lost any weight off just cutting carbs
| alone?

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| I've never cut back on carbs to lose weight and I know that every
| person is different. Has anyone lost any weight off just cutting carbs
| alone?

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I've never cut back on carbs to lose weight and I know that every
person is different. Has anyone lost any weight off just cutting carbs
alone?

Get to the library, used book store, or new book store and get a copy of Dr.
Atkins' book. Once you've read it, you will understand the concept. It's not
just cutting back on carbs. It's an entire system.

Pat in TX

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I've never cut back on carbs to lose weight and I know that every
person is different. Has anyone lost any weight off just cutting carbs
alone?

Get to the library, used book store, or new book store and get a copy of
Dr. Atkins' book. Once you've read it, you will understand the concept.
It's not just cutting back on carbs. It's an entire system.

What about those of us who can't get out there and walk several miles a day
anymore. Since my accident I've stuck to low carbing and already GAINED
back 10 lbs. Now what?

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Get to the library, used book store, or new book store and get a copy of
Dr. Atkins' book. Once you've read it, you will understand the concept.
It's not just cutting back on carbs. It's an entire system.

What about those of us who can't get out there and walk several miles a
day anymore. Since my accident I've stuck to low carbing and already
GAINED back 10 lbs. Now what?

I don't believe you. You obviously haven't read the book, haven't followed
the plan, and are trying to blow smoke at us. Did you think walking is the
only form of exercise?

Pat in TX

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Quoted message said:

I've never cut back on carbs to lose weight and I know that every
person is different. Has anyone lost any weight off just cutting carbs
alone?

Get to the library, used book store, or new book store and get a
copy of Dr. Atkins' book. Once you've read it, you will understand
the concept. It's not just cutting back on carbs. It's an entire
system.

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What about those of us who can't get out there and walk several
miles a day anymore. Since my accident I've stuck to low carbing
and already GAINED back 10 lbs. Now what?

Exercise is a wonderful thing for many reasons, but it's not
*required* for maintaining or losing weight on low-carb, so there's
some good news for you. You really should have at least one of the
popular low-carb books, though, to make sure you're doing it right.

If you're confined at home and can't get out to your local used book
store, maybe you could get a friend to go look for you, or try eBay or
Amazon.com. You might also call your local library; they probably
have copies of 'Protein Power' (my favorite) and DANDR, and I know the
libraries here will deliver to people who aren't mobile enough to get
there. Good luck healing from your accident.

--
Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

Loco~Motion said:

What about those of us who can't get out there and walk several miles a
day anymore. Since my accident I've stuck to low carbing and already
GAINED back 10 lbs. Now what?

How many carbs do you eat? Are you on a ketogenic diet or just
generally skipping the white stuff? Are you low enough that appetite
suppression kicks in?

How many calories do you eat? If you overeat enough, you'll gain weight
even on a low-carb diet.

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Get to the library, used book store, or new book store and get a copy of
Dr. Atkins' book. Once you've read it, you will understand the concept.
It's not just cutting back on carbs. It's an entire system.

What about those of us who can't get out there and walk several miles a
day anymore. Since my accident I've stuck to low carbing and already
GAINED back 10 lbs. Now what?

I don't believe you. You obviously haven't read the book, haven't followed
the plan, and are trying to blow smoke at us. Did you think walking is
the only form of exercise?

I read several low-carb books. What does that have to do with being unable
to walk on my treadmill? I was losing 1 to 2 lbs a week before the
accident. What other exercise do you suggest? I take care of the house,
work in the garden, do the shopping, cooking etc.

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Loco~Motion said:

What about those of us who can't get out there and walk several
miles a day anymore. Since my accident I've stuck to low carbing
and already GAINED back 10 lbs. Now what?

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Exercise is a wonderful thing for many reasons, but it's not
*required* for maintaining or losing weight on low-carb, so there's
some good news for you. You really should have at least one of the
popular low-carb books, though, to make sure you're doing it right.

I have several of them. I have Protein Power, the Atkins Book and another I
loaned to someone. I think it was called Sugar Busters. I was losing fine
until the accident.

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If you're confined at home and can't get out to your local used book
store, maybe you could get a friend to go look for you, or try eBay or
Amazon.com. You might also call your local library; they probably
have copies of 'Protein Power' (my favorite) and DANDR, and I know the
libraries here will deliver to people who aren't mobile enough to get
there. Good luck healing from your accident.

Thank you I already have those books. I can't drink the oil suggested by
Atkins because it made me gag. What do you folks do when you can't walk long
distances anymore?

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Loco~Motion said:

What about those of us who can't get out there and walk several miles a
day anymore. Since my accident I've stuck to low carbing and already
GAINED back 10 lbs. Now what?

How many carbs do you eat?

About 20 to 50 a day. Less than that and constipation becomes a real issue.
I eat a lot of greens and low-carb veggies.

Are you on a ketogenic diet or just

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generally skipping the white stuff? Are you low enough that appetite
suppression kicks in?

I'm just low-carbing. I gave up the white stuff as you said above. I was
walking up to 3 miles a day, 5 times a week on my thradmill and losing up to
2 lbs a week. As soon as I was unable to get the exercise the weight loss
reversed and I started to slowly gain. I'm sitting steady at 165 lbs now for
several months.

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How many calories do you eat? If you overeat enough, you'll gain weight
even on a low-carb diet.

I don't know. I read you don't count calories on a low-carb diet. I
honestly couldn't even guess.

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How many calories do you eat? If you overeat enough, you'll gain
weight even on a low-carb diet.

I don't know. I read you don't count calories on a low-carb diet. I
honestly couldn't even guess.

It doesn't matter what type of weight loss diet you're on, losing weight
requires that you eat fewer calories than you burn.

If you can't exercise at the level that you used to and you find you're
gaining weight then the answer is to lower your calorie intake until you're
able to increase your exercise level again.
--
Jeri
"Change is inevitable, except from vending machines."

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I read several low-carb books.

Now, you need to follow the directions in the book. We all have had our
"stalls", but nobody has ever gained 10 pounds by exactly following the
Atkins diet plan.

What does that have to do with being unable

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to walk on my treadmill?

Treadmill is not the only exercise out there. How about swimming? How about
water aerobics? How about bicycle riding? There's exercise sitting on the
Swiss ball. There's exercise using those long rubber bands. There's weight
lifting with dumbbells....and on and on.

I was losing 1 to 2 lbs a week before the

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accident.

What I think is that you were/are using the accident as an excuse to slack
off. You were (of course) felling sorry for yourself, so you said you'd just
"take a break" for awhile. And that is why you gained the weight. Don't
blame it on Atkins. Go over your daily intake and find out just where you
went off course.

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If you can't exercise at the level that you used to and you find you're
gaining weight then the answer is to lower your calorie intake until
you're able to increase your exercise level again.
--
Jeri

or change the exercise type.

Loco~Motion said:

Thank you I already have those books. I can't drink the oil
suggested by Atkins because it made me gag. What do you folks do
when you can't walk long distances anymore?

Well, I've never been unable to walk, but I'm lazy and (usually) have
a sedentary job, so the result is the same, especially in hot or cold
weather. What I do is keep my carbs down and my protein reasonable,
which keeps my insulin down, which prevents my cells from storing fat
and promotes glucagon, which encourages my cells to give up fat.
Exercise may enhance some of those steps in a roundabout way, but it's
not required.

(I'm very interested in what Gary Taubes has to say on this topic in
his new book, by the way. Others have already challenged the fat and
cholesterol status quo, but I haven't seen anyone take on the
exercise-for-weight-loss dogma.)

Anyway, in your case, since you can't walk, exercise is a moot point;
you're going to have to focus on diet. Maybe you could post your
meals from a couple days and get people's opinions on them. If you
track your meals with something like fitday.com, you could point us to
them. Possibly you've been getting more carbs than you thought all
along, but when you were walking several miles a day, you were able to
keep them worked off.

I'm not sure what the "oil suggested by Atkins" is, so I don't know
about that. I'm taking a fish oil supplement, but I started doing
that to improve my omega-3/omega-6 ratio, for other reasons than
weight loss. It's not the tastiest stuff in the world, but it's not
bad -- flavored with lemon, but still a bit fishy.

--
Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

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How many carbs do you eat?

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About 20 to 50 a day. Less than that and constipation becomes a real
issue. I eat a lot of greens and low-carb veggies.

Does "about 20 to 50" a day mean sometimes it goes over 50? That's
getting high enough to put some people back in fat storage mode,
especially if you're insulin resistant.

For constipation, there seem to be two options: increase fat or eat
lots of fiber. I think there are no-net-carb fiber supplements, but I
haven't tried them. I just try to get at least 60% of my calories
from fat, and it's never a problem. I've gone for weeks eating
virtually no fiber at all, and been fine in that regard. Constipation
seems to creep in when a diet goes very heavy on protein and/or
non-fiber carbs, which makes intuitive sense since those foods tend to
be very dense.

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Are you on a ketogenic diet or just
generally skipping the white stuff? Are you low enough that
appetite suppression kicks in?

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I'm just low-carbing. I gave up the white stuff as you said above. I
was walking up to 3 miles a day, 5 times a week on my thradmill and
losing up to 2 lbs a week. As soon as I was unable to get the
exercise the weight loss reversed and I started to slowly gain. I'm
sitting steady at 165 lbs now for several months.

How many is several? You were losing weight at a pretty fast clip
before (great job, by the way!), so it wouldn't be surprising if your
body stopped for a while to regroup, especially if you were healing
from an accident. If you seem stuck now, sometimes people try to
break a plateau with a drastic change in diet for a set time before
going back on low-carb; either going high-carb for a bit or doing a
meat-fast or fat-fast. I think the Atkins book talks about breaking
plateaus.

If you post a typical day's menu, you might get some insights about
what you're eating. Not saying you're stupid or can't comprehend the
books, but sometimes a fresh look helps.

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How many calories do you eat? If you overeat enough, you'll gain
weight even on a low-carb diet.

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I don't know. I read you don't count calories on a low-carb diet.
I honestly couldn't even guess.

You *don't* count calories on a low-carb diet -- unless you're
following the diet properly for an extended period of time and still
not losing weight. Then you may have to look at other things besides
your daily carb intake, although I wouldn't put calories at the top of
that list. First, I'd look for hidden carbs in the foods you're
eating; things like sugar alcohols that don't seem to be as no-carb
for some people as they're supposed to be; food intolerances, etc.
Counting calories is sort of a last resort for when you've checked
everything else.

--
Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

Loco~Motion said:

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How many calories do you eat? If you overeat enough, you'll gain
weight even on a low-carb diet.

I don't know. I read you don't count calories on a low-carb diet. I
honestly couldn't even guess.

That might make a big difference.

I had gotten kind of sloppy with the low-carb diet, sticking to low-carb
because I'm diabetic, but not necessarily eating well and sometimes
overeating.

When I began on insulin, I wrote down the grams of carb, protein and
calories in every meal as part of learning how to optimally dose the
insulin. Just writing it down made a pretty big difference for me.
Realizing a particular meal had over 1000 calories made me realize I
could get away just fine with eating half of it.

I really wasn't trying to restrict myself in any way, just record things
to learn. I was recovering from surgery and figured I needed lots of
protein and nutrients to speed my recovery, so I was not dieting.
But... just writing it down led me to lose 10 lbs the first month - with
NO exercise as I couldn't even get in or out of bed by myself at the time!

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I read several low-carb books.

Now, you need to follow the directions in the book. We all have had our
"stalls", but nobody has ever gained 10 pounds by exactly following the
Atkins diet plan.

I'm low-carbing, not following the Atkins plan which from what I read is
rather extreme.

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What does that have to do with being unable

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to walk on my treadmill?

Treadmill is not the only exercise out there. How about swimming? How
about water aerobics? How about bicycle riding? There's exercise sitting
on the Swiss ball. There's exercise using those long rubber bands. There's
weight lifting with dumbbells....and on and on.

No swimming where I live. I'm not sure about aerobics. The accident
precludes things like riding bikes. The exercises you suggest don't burn
many calories unless done for hours at a time. They're more fitness
oriented, not weight loss. Walking uphill at full speed on a treadmill
really burns the calories.

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I was losing 1 to 2 lbs a week before the

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accident.

What I think is that you were/are using the accident as an excuse to slack
off. You were (of course) felling sorry for yourself, so you said you'd
just "take a break" for awhile.

Are you saying you think someone in a full leg brace should get on a
treadmill and do 3 miles a day? You've got to be kidding me.

And that is why you gained the weight. Don't

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blame it on Atkins. Go over your daily intake and find out just where you
went off course.

Where did I blame Atkins? You must be having a bad hair day........ :o)

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> I've never cut back on carbs to lose weight and I know that every
> person is different. Has anyone lost any weight off just cutting carbs
> alone?

Get to the library, used book store, or new book store and get a
copy of Dr. Atkins' book. Once you've read it, you will understand
the concept. It's not just cutting back on carbs. It's an entire
system.

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What about those of us who can't get out there and walk several
miles a day anymore. Since my accident I've stuck to low carbing
and already GAINED back 10 lbs. Now what?

Exercise is a wonderful thing for many reasons, but it's not
*required* for maintaining or losing weight on low-carb, so there's
some good news for you. You really should have at least one of the
popular low-carb books, though, to make sure you're doing it right.

Yes, I have several. I've already listed them in another post.

Last night's dinner for example was country pork ribs with boiled cabbage.
Lunch was 3 boiled eggs. Snack was 2 oz. pistachio nuts. I got on the scale
this morning and was speechless to see I gained 2 lbs!!!!!!!!!

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If you're confined at home and can't get out to your local used book
store, maybe you could get a friend to go look for you, or try eBay or
Amazon.com. You might also call your local library; they probably
have copies of 'Protein Power'

I have Protein Power, Atkins book and Sugar Busters. What is odd is that as
soon as the exercise stopped the weigh started to come back.

(my favorite) and DANDR, and I know the

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libraries here will deliver to people who aren't mobile enough to get
there. Good luck healing from your accident.

I'm getting around OK now but the treadmill is out for awhile. This was a
serious injury. I just don't want to gain back everything I worked so hard
to lose and have to start from square one again. I already tried the Atkins
oil suggestion but no way could I get the oil down.

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