Measuring a mile

Proctologically Violated©® said:

Awl--

I have a couple of local HSs with the red oval rubber track, and it's been
so long since I've used one, I've forgotten how many times around is a mile,
and how to use the stop/start markers.
Are they all the same/standardized?

A standard outdoor track is 400m. You can quickly verify that the distance is
"about right" by going to gmap-pedometer.com and taking a look at the satellite
photo.

Keep in mind that a standard mile is a little longer than 1600m. Therefore you
need to start about 10m back from where you finish, or add about 2 seconds to
your finishing time. For the purposes of training/time trialing, I would just
run the 1600m.

BTW, if you're serious about running a fast mile, either enter a race or get
some friends to pace you. Very hard to run a fast time solo.

Cheers,
--
Elflord

Proctologically Violated©® said:

Awl--

I have a couple of local HSs with the red oval rubber track, and it's been
so long since I've used one, I've forgotten how many times around is a mile,
and how to use the stop/start markers.
Are they all the same/standardized?

I usually run in a part (when I run), but would like to start timing myself
on a standard mile.

Clues?
tia.
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Just run at a 10mpm pace, and see how long it takes you.

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Elflord wrote in article
<[email hidden]>:

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Proctologically Violated©® said:

Awl--

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have a couple of local HSs with the red oval rubber track, and it's been
so long since I've used one, I've forgotten how many times around is a mile,
and how to use the stop/start markers.
Are they all the same/standardized?

Quoted message said:

A standard outdoor track is 400m. You can quickly verify that the distance is
"about right" by going to gmap-pedometer.com and taking a look at the satellite
photo.

Quoted message said:

Keep in mind that a standard mile is a little longer than 1600m. Therefore you
need to start about 10m back from where you finish, or add about 2 seconds to
your finishing time. For the purposes of training/time trialing, I would just
run the 1600m.

If any older tracks are surviving in your area they are likely to be 440
yards rather than 400 meters. You may want to ask someone who should
know the situation where you live; I've run on a lot of 440 tracks and
only a handful of 400s, because most of my track workouts were on older
schoolyard tracks.
--
Don Kirkman

Don Kirkman said:

If any older tracks are surviving in your area they are likely to
be 440 yards

....which is exactly a quarter mile.

1 mile = 5280 feet = 1760 yards = 4 x 440 = about 1609 metres

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Charlie Pendejo wrote in article
<[email hidden]>:

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Don Kirkman said:

If any older tracks are surviving in your area they are likely to
be 440 yards

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...which is exactly a quarter mile.

Yes, I'm somewhat aware of the mathematics involved.

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1 mile = 5280 feet = 1760 yards = 4 x 440 = about 1609 metres

Which, AFAIK, nobody has disputed or even mentioned, nor does it help
with the OP's desire to "start timing [him]self on a standard mile".
Four laps on a 440 track will do that for him without the need to deal
with trying to adjust lap times to account for the extra ~9 meters.
--
Don Kirkman

Proctologically Violated©® said:

I have a couple of local HSs with the red oval rubber track, and it's been
so long since I've used one, I've forgotten how many times around is a mile,
and how to use the stop/start markers.
Are they all the same/standardized?

More or less.

As long as the track isn't a strange size (some tracks over here are
300/330 metres cos they didn't have space to fit a full 400m track) then a
mile is 4 times round the track, near enough.

- If the track is a 440yds one, then 4x = one mile, exactly (as long as
you run on the inside lane).

- If the track is a 400meters one, then 4x = one mile, give or take a
gnats bollock (-9.[censored] meters in fact), as Charlie mentioned.

Unless you are an international class runner, just run 4 times round the
track on the inside lane and your mile is done.

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Quoted message said:

Don Kirkman said:

If any older tracks are surviving in your area they are likely to
be 440 yards

Pendejo said:

...which is exactly a quarter mile.

Don Kirkman wrote:
Yes, I'm somewhat aware of the mathematics involved.

Rest assured, I had no doubt. Just chimed in on the assist in case it
was a mystery to anyone else. Some of these younger metric-age folks
might not know a yard from a cubit. :-)

"Proctologically Violated©®" <[email hidden]> wrote:

PS you have a spectacular "handle" (is there a new word for "handle",
given that trucker CB radio is no longer /à la mode/ ? )

Charlie Pendejo said:

might not know a yard from a cubit. :-)

cul-bite (proncounced like "cubit" with a french accent) means "ass-[censored]"

so we are quite close to "couldn't tell his ass from his elbow"

I do so want to go do an etymologie degree somewhere [!seeking sponsors!]

steve common said:

cul-bite (proncounced like "cubit" with a french accent) means
"ass-[censored]"

so we are quite close to "couldn't tell his ass from his elbow"

Ha!

My old man (bio-dad, not plain ol' dad, that is - and he happens to be
a Francophile to an almost embarrassing degree and fancies himself a
Francophone as well) is teaching English as a Second Language lately,
and he was excited to introduce the phrase "couldn't tell his ass from
his elbow" to his class early on. I think he mimed it.

He'll enjoy cul-bite for sure. Thanks.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Charlie Pendejo said:

Some of these younger metric-age folks
might not know a yard from a cubit. :-)

The yard is where the prisoners hang out while not indoors. Cubit was a
video game in the 1980s.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

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Charlie Pendejo said:

might not know a yard from a cubit. :-)

cul-bite (proncounced like "cubit" with a french accent) means
"ass-[censored]"

I like your disctionary but :

a.. 6 palms = 24 digits, i.e. ~45.0 cm or 18 inches (1.50 ft)
b.. 7 palms = 28 digits, i.e. ~52.5 cm or 21 inches (1.75 ft)
c.. 8 palms = 32 digits, i.e. ~60.0 cm or 24 inches (2.00 ft)
d.. 9 palms = 36 digits, i.e. ~67.5 cm or 27 inches (2.25 ft)
From late Antiquity, the Roman ulna, a four-feet-cubit (about 120 cm) is
also attested. This length is the measure from a man's hip to the
fingers of the outstretched opposite arm.

I guess we could conclude their hands were fondling something. And Noah
built the arc using cubits as Bill Cosby told us. I wonder if Noah had
two male/female homosexuals and a hermaphrodite. If Fallwell has only
known this he could have blamed Noah for the "evils" of today. he did
suggest the Iraqi war was caused by homosexuals. History is so much fun
along with etymology.

-Doug

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"Proctologically Violated©®" <[email hidden]> wrote:

PS you have a spectacular "handle" (is there a new word for "handle",
given that trucker CB radio is no longer /à la mode/ ? )

Instead of handle, how bout num dee plum--for our francophile amigos here.
Moniker is also used.

Speaking of amigos, didja know that the Pendejo in Charlie Pendejo is
spanich for "pubic hair"? You'll routinely hear, Ay, ese pendejito....
from frustrated spanish parents.

When the real estate [censored] hits the fan, I'll probably change sed moniker to
Proctologically Eviscerated®©.

Many ask me if I'm gay.
I point out, Dude, the name is Proctologically *Violated*, NOT
Proctologically Ecstatic, a'ight?

The Wife is losing patience, however.
She is no longer physically capable of extracting the massive objects
regularly inserted, by Wall Street, the Bush-Cheney-Rice cabal, and their
various nefarious friends.
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"Proctologically Violated©®" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Speaking of amigos, didja know that the Pendejo in Charlie Pendejo is
spanich for "pubic hair"?

I believe that it is Spanish for "[censored]".

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

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PV'd said:

Pendejo is spanich for "pubic hair"?

Michelle said:

I believe that it is Spanish for "[censored]".

You each get partial credit. steve common gets an A+ with bonus
points in reserve, from a year or two ago.

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Charlie Pendejo said:

Michelle said:

I believe that it is Spanish for "[censored]".

You each get partial credit.

Why only partial credit?

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

I'll be checking this out fortwit, but on a 440 track (inside lane), there
should only be one line for start/finish, whilst on all the other lanes,
there should be separate start/finish lines--with the finish line *before*
the start line. correct?

If it is a 400 m track, calibrated to 1 mile (which would seem reasonable in
the US), then the inside track should *also* have separate start/finish
lines, where the finish line is taken *past* the start line.

If worse comes to worst, I have a 100 foot tape I could fool with.
Of course, if this gets any more complicated, I'll proly just have an
aneurism.
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Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
to Materially Improve Your Family's Life.
The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!

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all d'numbuhs

"steve common" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Proctologically Violated©® said:

I have a couple of local HSs with the red oval rubber track, and it's been
so long since I've used one, I've forgotten how many times around is a
mile,
and how to use the stop/start markers.
Are they all the same/standardized?

More or less.

As long as the track isn't a strange size (some tracks over here are
300/330 metres cos they didn't have space to fit a full 400m track) then a
mile is 4 times round the track, near enough.

- If the track is a 440yds one, then 4x = one mile, exactly (as long as
you run on the inside lane).

- If the track is a 400meters one, then 4x = one mile, give or take a
gnats bollock (-9.[censored] meters in fact), as Charlie mentioned.

Unless you are an international class runner, just run 4 times round the
track on the inside lane and your mile is done.

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Doug Freese wrote in article
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

"steve common" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Charlie Pendejo <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

might not know a yard from a cubit. :-)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

cul-bite (proncounced like "cubit" with a french accent) means
"ass-[censored]"

Quoted message said:

I like your disctionary but :

Quoted message said:

a.. 6 palms = 24 digits, i.e. ~45.0 cm or 18 inches (1.50 ft)
b.. 7 palms = 28 digits, i.e. ~52.5 cm or 21 inches (1.75 ft)
c.. 8 palms = 32 digits, i.e. ~60.0 cm or 24 inches (2.00 ft)
d.. 9 palms = 36 digits, i.e. ~67.5 cm or 27 inches (2.25 ft)
From late Antiquity, the Roman ulna, a four-feet-cubit (about 120 cm) is
also attested. This length is the measure from a man's hip to the
fingers of the outstretched opposite arm.

Quoted message said:

I guess we could conclude their hands were fondling something. And Noah
built the arc using cubits as Bill Cosby told us. I wonder if Noah had
two male/female homosexuals and a hermaphrodite. If Fallwell has only
known this he could have blamed Noah for the "evils" of today. he did
suggest the Iraqi war was caused by homosexuals. History is so much fun
along with etymology.

The standard cubit for arkitecture was the distance from the elbow to
the tip of the middle finger, something like 18 to 21 inches. There's
Noah counting for the right number of animals to fill the ship.
--
Don Kirkman

Proctologically Violated©® said:

I'll be checking this out fortwit, but on a 440 track (inside lane), there
should only be one line for start/finish, whilst on all the other lanes,
there should be separate start/finish lines--with the finish line *before*
the start line. correct?

Correct enough. The start line is usually a single curved line (cascade or
waterfall) to compensate those starting further out, but since runners are
allowed to "break" for the tangent immediately, this doesn't need to
compensate for 4 times round the track * lane length difference.

Quoted message said:

If it is a 400 m track, calibrated to 1 mile (which would seem reasonable in
the US), then the inside track should *also* have separate start/finish
lines, where the finish line is taken *past* the start line.

Also correct - look around 9 metres before the finish line on the inside
lane for the mile start.

Some good pics and explainations here
http://www.trackinfo.org/csunmarks.html

Last but one pic shows two mile and one mile start lines.

Third pic down from top shoes the common start line for all mutliples of
400m from 1600m up (10000m for example).