Rare steak

"Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote

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When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the middle
not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook? That's one of the
reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And if they bring it to me
with pink in the middle I send it back.

No, that advice is for burgers. Since burgers are ground, bacteria
would be dispersed throughout. That is not so with steak, and steak
is cooked on the outside.

nancy

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When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the middle
not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook? That's one of the
reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And if they bring it to me
with pink in the middle I send it back.

First of all, there's something in between rare and well done. Now that
we've gotten that out of the way...

You're more at risk with a rare hamburger because the process of grinding
the meat can spread bacteria evenly throughout a batch of meat. The interior
of the raw burger won't get cooked, and you spend a couple of days praying
to the toilet. With a steak, even if its surface comes into contact with
something nasty, the outside gets cooked, but the interior wasn't exposed.

Someone will now come along and say "Yeah but what if you poked the steak
with a fork and transferred bacteria to the inside?" Yes, anything's
possible. But, what I said above is the general rule.

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When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the
middle not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook? That's
one of the reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And if they bring
it to me with pink in the middle I send it back.

Before man found fire, and got to love that chargrilled taste, we used to
eat the meat raw.

Unless you have a rare steak in England (think Mad Cow Disease)... anywhere
else is fine.

You're missing out on a great steak by cooking the life out of it.

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Peter Lucas
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When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the
middle not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook? That's
one of the reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And if they bring
it to me with pink in the middle I send it back.

Before man found fire, and got to love that chargrilled taste, we used to
eat the meat raw.

Unless you have a rare steak in England (think Mad Cow Disease)...
anywhere
else is fine.

Normal cooking heat does not dependably kill the prions which cause mad cow
disease. From what I've read, you'd have to incinerate the meat. My mother
cooked this way, but most people don't.

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When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the middle
not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook?

The idea is that achieving a certain level of heat will kill any harmful
bacteria.
Trouble is, once you achieve that level of heat the steak is overcooked and
ruined.

That's

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one of the reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And if they bring
it to me with pink in the middle I send it back.

I order mine medium rare, and if it is not red in the middle, I send it
back.
I have never gotten sick from rare meat. Life is a gamble, but for the most
part, the food we are served in restaurants is safe. It must be, or lots of
people would be sick or dead.

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You're missing out on a great steak by cooking the life out of it.

I'm starting to realized that but I have to get over this mental block
of eating what appears to be raw meat.

"Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote

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You're missing out on a great steak by cooking the life out of it.

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I'm starting to realized that but I have to get over this mental block of
eating what appears to be raw meat.

Try medium ... personally, I don't care for very rare steak, myself,
but well done? No way. Medium rare for me. Even if you just
cut back to medium, I think you'll find a more flavorful steak that
you can live with.

nancy

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Scott <[email hidden]> wrote in
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When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the
middle not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook? That's
one of the reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And if they bring
it to me with pink in the middle I send it back.

Before man found fire, and got to love that chargrilled taste, we used to
eat the meat raw.

Unless you have a rare steak in England (think Mad Cow Disease)...
anywhere
else is fine.

Oh come on! That is seriously old news now. All cattle showing signs of Mad
Cow Disease (and the rest of the herd on the same farm) have been removed
from the food chain for years. Incidentally, the expected 'take off' of
numbers of humans suffering from New Variant Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease
hasn't happened. (Please remember that there are 60 million people in the
UK, so the numbers are miniscule by comparison with the numbers who were
eating beef in the 1980s when this was a problem).

http://www.cjd.ed.ac.uk/figures.htm

In addition, 'Scotch' Beef (Aberdeen Angus) has the best flavour you can
get. (I may be biased ;-) )

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You're missing out on a great steak by cooking the life out of it.

I completely agree with that! It is said that in many restaurants, they give
the poor quality steaks to people who ask for 'well done', because they know
that those people can't tell the difference between good flavours and
average flavours.

John

Scott said:

When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the
middle not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook? That's
one of the reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And if they
bring it to me with pink in the middle I send it back.

You're obviously not steak-wise. Anyone who enjoys a good steak will never
order it well done. That's just a waste of good meat. I used to cringe
when my friend Gertie ordered prime rib well done... eeek!

Jill

Scott said:

When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the
middle not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook? That's
one of the reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And if they bring
it to me with pink in the middle I send it back.

Why is it important for the meat to be thoroughly cooked. If you want your
beef to be cooked until it is grey all the way through you might has well
eat braised beef or hamburgers. There is no point in spending a lot of
money on a nice steak and then cooking it until it is dry and tasteless. As
long a the meat has been properly handled there is no problem eating it
raw.

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When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the
middle not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook? That's
one of the reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And if they bring
it to me with pink in the middle I send it back.

Before man found fire, and got to love that chargrilled taste, we used to
eat the meat raw.

Unless you have a rare steak in England (think Mad Cow Disease)...
anywhere
else is fine.

Normal cooking heat does not dependably kill the prions which cause mad
cow disease. From what I've read, you'd have to incinerate the meat. My
mother cooked this way, but most people don't.

It was my understanding from what I have read about mad cow disease is you
don't tend to get it from mussel meats but from eating the organs such as
kidneys, liver, brain, tongue etc. and I very well could be wrong on this.

Joe Cilinceon

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Scott <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the
> middle not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook? That's
> one of the reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And if they
> bring
> it to me with pink in the middle I send it back.

Before man found fire, and got to love that chargrilled taste, we used
to
eat the meat raw.

Unless you have a rare steak in England (think Mad Cow Disease)...
anywhere
else is fine.

Normal cooking heat does not dependably kill the prions which cause mad
cow disease. From what I've read, you'd have to incinerate the meat. My
mother cooked this way, but most people don't.

It was my understanding from what I have read about mad cow disease is you
don't tend to get it from mussel meats but from eating the organs such as
kidneys, liver, brain, tongue etc. and I very well could be wrong on
this.

Joe Cilinceon

I just lost my appetite.

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It was my understanding from what I have read about mad cow disease is you
don't tend to get it from mussel meats but from eating the organs such as
kidneys, liver, brain, tongue etc. and I very well could be wrong on
this.

Joe Cilinceon

Mainly brain and nervous system (i.e. spinal cord). These have disappeared
from shops in the UK. Until recently, we couldn't even get a good rib-eye
steak, but they are back now.

John.

"jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Scott said:

When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the
middle not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook? That's
one of the reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And if they
bring it to me with pink in the middle I send it back.

You're obviously not steak-wise. Anyone who enjoys a good steak will
never
order it well done. That's just a waste of good meat. I used to cringe
when my friend Gertie ordered prime rib well done... eeek!

Actually, there is something to be said for the end piece of
prime rib. I do love that, haven't thought of it in ages.

nancy

Nancy Young said:

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You're obviously not steak-wise. Anyone who enjoys a good steak will
never
order it well done. That's just a waste of good meat. I used to cringe
when my friend Gertie ordered prime rib well done... eeek!

Actually, there is something to be said for the end piece of
prime rib. I do love that, haven't thought of it in ages.

Sure. The end piece of a nice prime rib is is usually pretty good, but I
sure wouldn't want a whole roast of beef cooked grey. I grey up on that
kind of beef, which is why I never saw the attraction to beef, until I had
it rate.

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When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the middle
not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook?

The idea is that achieving a certain level of heat will kill any harmful
bacteria.
Trouble is, once you achieve that level of heat the steak is overcooked and
ruined.

That's

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one of the reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And if they bring
it to me with pink in the middle I send it back.

I order mine medium rare, and if it is not red in the middle, I send it
back.
I have never gotten sick from rare meat. Life is a gamble, but for the most
part, the food we are served in restaurants is safe. It must be, or lots of
people would be sick or dead.

True.
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"Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Nancy Young wrote:

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Actually, there is something to be said for the end piece of
prime rib. I do love that, haven't thought of it in ages.

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Sure. The end piece of a nice prime rib is is usually pretty good, but I
sure wouldn't want a whole roast of beef cooked grey.

Oh, no! Absolutely not. But I have seen restaurants that offered
the end piece right on the menu. That's really good, but it's not to
be confused with your normal order of prime rib. That I prefer
medium rare.

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I grey up on that
kind of beef, which is why I never saw the attraction to beef, until I had
it rate.

I wouldn't eat beef if it was always overcooked, either. Why bother.

nancy

Nancy Young said:

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Scott said:

When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the
middle not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook?
That's one of the reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And
if they bring it to me with pink in the middle I send it back.

You're obviously not steak-wise. Anyone who enjoys a good steak will
never
order it well done. That's just a waste of good meat. I used to
cringe when my friend Gertie ordered prime rib well done... eeek!

Actually, there is something to be said for the end piece of
prime rib. I do love that, haven't thought of it in ages.

nancy

Doubtful they were holding the ends of the prime rib just for her at lunch
time, but maybe <wink> She always had to have her beef (steak, whatever)
well done. What a shame to do that to a good cut of meat. IMHO.

Jill

Scott said:

When a steak is cook rare or medium rare isn't the pink meat in the
middle not good for you since it appears to be not fully cook? That's
one of the reasons I always order my steaks well-done. And if they bring
it to me with pink in the middle I send it back.

Why waste your money on steak? Stick with pot roast or spaghetti.

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