BiGHA Comments

NiCK said:

There has been alot of different speculations about the new BiGHA (And yes, that is how you
correctly type BiGHA), what is the big turnaround on BiGHA? The pricetag? The history of BikeE? I
think not. All minor 'irritations' that reroute the opinions of people new to the idea of simply
better technology being used efficiently on a practical way of bettering bicycle tourists. What's
wrong with reimproving something that could use a more ideal purpose. Ideas are what create
success.

Anyway, I'm just saying that BiGHA is doing something many dare not to attempt, they are
reintroducing success out of a newly formed toolbox of ideas, 'because' it's possible...

Nicholas H [email hidden]

P.S.Hello Lee@BiGHA, guess who ( : Hint: lots of email : )

So do you work for BiGHA's advertising agency [1], or are you just trying to get a job there?

[1] The pretentious and atrocious writing style is (un)worthy of advertising copywriter.

Tom Sherman - Curmudgeon

Nick: I think the comments about Bigha involve two areas. First is price. It is pricey and sells at
a cost close to what some of the top end performance bents go for. Second is the impression that the
recumbent movement is moving more toward performance (speed, handling, lighter weight, more
aerodynamic, etc.) and this is a bike moving in the opposite direction. As a comfort cycle its
competition is found in bikes costing thousands of dollars less. They may not have all the googaws
and whistles that Bigha does, but for someone entering into bentdom they can buy two to four of the
competition for what Bigha costs. I think that all of us bent riders want a bent company to succeed
and most of us perceive such a narrow niche for this bike that success is chancy (we have been wrong
before). And when a bent company fails then, image wise, the sport is affected. So, while a lot of
us wish them well, that doesn't mean we can't espouse our own opinion of their marketing and
product. It just seems like a heavy, expensive cushy bent. Hopefully they are considered more like
Cadillacs than Packards.

Mike S. St. Louis, Mo.

Barcroft Virginia Barcroft Columbia RANS Rocket

There was a BiGHA on eBay auctioned by a charity with no reserve. It sold for $1,805.00. There were
50 bids with more than half of them from someone bidding as nsacres. There is a Mr. Acres, John I
think, who is the chief executive of Bigha.

It was listed as a recreational bike rather than as a recumbent. BiGHA seems to go to great lengths
not to mention the word recumbent. Maybe that's a good thing.

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NiCK said:

There has been alot of different speculations about the new BiGHA (And yes, that is how you
correctly type BiGHA), what is the big turnaround on BiGHA? The pricetag? The history of BikeE? I
think not. All minor 'irritations' that reroute the opinions of people new to the idea of simply
better technology being used efficiently on a practical way of bettering bicycle tourists. What's
wrong with reimproving something that could use a more ideal purpose. Ideas are what create
success.

Anyway, I'm just saying that BiGHA is doing something many dare not to attempt, they are
reintroducing success out of a newly formed toolbox of ideas, 'because' it's possible...

Nicholas H [email hidden]

P.S. Hello Lee@BiGHA, guess who ( : Hint: lots of email : )

Yes, they dare to sell a slow heavy comfort bike for the cost of a high performance bike. Selling
stuff for twice as much as the nearest competitors is quite an innovation!

Have you paid the full $3000.00 price for a Bigha?

Lorenzo L. Love home.thegrid.net~llloveOpen ↗

“In the old days being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody’s crazy.” Charles Manson

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NiCK said:

There has been alot of different speculations about the new BiGHA (And yes, that is how you
correctly type BiGHA), what is the big turnaround on BiGHA? The pricetag? The history of BikeE?
I think not. All minor 'irritations' that reroute the opinions of people new to the idea of
simply better technology being used efficiently on a practical way of bettering bicycle
tourists. What's wrong with reimproving something that could use a more ideal purpose. Ideas are
what create success.

Anyway, I'm just saying that BiGHA is doing something many dare not to attempt, they are
reintroducing success out of a newly formed toolbox of ideas, 'because' it's possible...

Nicholas H [email hidden]

P.S.Hello Lee@BiGHA, guess who ( : Hint: lots of email : )

So do you work for BiGHA's advertising agency [1], or are you just trying to get a job there?

[1] The pretentious and atrocious writing style is (un)worthy of advertising copywriter.

Tom Sherman - Curmudgeon

I'm just making a point based from my perceptions on BiGHA, even if a disagreeance is enevitable.
And also i'm not an 'advertising copywriter.

-- NiCK

TJ Theismen must be edykated coz e writed:

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Well, I guess I'm the world's biggest idiot for paying $3000 for my Bigha. When I first heard of
them I checked out this board. I ended up purchasing despite all the negativity. I couldn't be
happier with my Bigha. I ride it often.

Feel free to rip me all you want, I'll be happy nontheless. Had I listened to everyone who said
such and such was a bad idea, I wouldn't have gone to college, wouldn't have married (and had
children), wouldn't have my job, my house, my car, my Bigha, etc. I learned long ago to listen to
the familiar voice inside instead of the strange ones outside.

Well I think it is a nice bike.

--
Ian

catrike.co.ukcatrike.co.ukOpen ↗

I fail to see a rational basis for the invective frequently expressed towards Bigha or John Acres.
Bigha is unlikely to take sales from any existing recumbent manufacturer. Bigha has created a unique
market niche, the upscale recumbent pleasure cruiser. I suspect that John Acres is marketing this
particular bent because he is without competitors in this small market niche. There is a group of
consumers in this country, primarily affluent, that are motivated largely by "pride of ownership".
These people will pay large sums of money to acquire whatever they consider to be "the best". A
Bigha customer may be a well-heeled retired couple. They have purchased "his" and "her" Bigha bikes.
The man may have even had a trailer, complete with a ramp, built for the bikes so that he can easily
tow them behind their Lincoln Navigator. Every Sunday, if the weather is nice, they take their bikes
to the park for a leasurely eight mile ride. What's so wrong with that? Should a retired couple be
forced to ride low racers?

John Acres is building his bikes here, in America. Personally, I feel he deserves a pat on the back.

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. What's so wrong with that? Should a retired couple be forced to ride low racers?

That would be kinda neat, as far as I know only 2 Barons exist in the Dallas/Ft Worth area. I'd
almost be glad to get dusted by a 80 year old

Steve: Well said. Whatever happened to "I may not agree with what you say but will defend to the
death your right to say it"? I am not a Bigha fan. so, I won't buy. What other people want to do
with their money is their business. I don't own an SUV but that doesn't mean others have problems
splurging on these big, obnoxious, gas-guzzling.........oops, got carried away there. I don't think
that this bike will replace Bacchetta (or even Cycle Genius), nor will it take the recumbent world
to a new level of acceptance, but so what. Those who buy, more power to you. Those who don't (like
me), we will be content with our Barcrofts, Visions, T-bones, or whatever. There is room for all.

Mike S. St. Louis, Mo

Barcroft Virginia BArcroft Columbia RANS Rocket.

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Have you ridden any other recumbents before buying a Bigha? Or since? Why did you decide to spend
that much when there are other much cheaper bikes that are in the same class? In what way is this
bike superior to similar but much less expensive bikes? In what way is this bike the equal to
similarly priced but much higher performance bikes? Does that voice in your head often tell you to
spend that kind of money?

Lorenzo L. Love home.thegrid.net~llloveOpen ↗

You seem to think bikes are simply classed by weight and cost without any other variables, when in
fact there are many.

The quality, comfort and style of the Bigha I find to be unequaled. And of course, nobody else even
has the electronics, which are a blast.

I've seen and tried many other recumbents: some I've ridden 50+ miles, so I have a great idea what
they have to offer. In my mind, none of the bikes I tried compares to my Bigha. I think you have to
look at the bike to get a sense of the quality. You just get the sense that this one is made better,
and that they thought of absolutely everything.

You may consider $3,000 to be too expensive, but I think it's a good deal. That's all that
matters to me.

Congrats TJ. Glad you like the new bike, and on behalf of everyone here at A.R.B.R., THANK YOU for
getting L.L.L. to shut it for once.

Looks like someone finally answered his question ("have you paid $3000 for a Bigha?"😉!! Good work
my friend!

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"Lorenzo L. Love" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Have you ridden any other recumbents before buying a Bigha? Or since? Why did you decide to
spend that much when there are other much cheaper bikes that are in the same class? In what way
is this bike superior to similar but much less expensive bikes? In what way is this bike the
equal to similarly priced but much higher performance bikes? Does that voice in your head often
tell you to spend that kind of money?

Lorenzo L. Love home.thegrid.net~llloveOpen ↗

You seem to think bikes are simply classed by weight and cost without any other variables, when in
fact there are many.

The quality, comfort and style of the Bigha I find to be unequaled. And of course, nobody else
even has the electronics, which are a blast.

I've seen and tried many other recumbents: some I've ridden 50+ miles, so I have a great idea what
they have to offer. In my mind, none of the bikes I tried compares to my Bigha. I think you have
to look at the bike to get a sense of the quality. You just get the sense that this one is made
better, and that they thought of absolutely everything.

You may consider $3,000 to be too expensive, but I think it's a good deal. That's all that
matters to me.

Lawrence Turner said:

Congrats TJ. Glad you like the new bike, and on behalf of everyone here at A.R.B.R., THANK YOU for
getting L.L.L. to shut it for once.

Looks like someone finally answered his question ("have you paid $3000 for a Bigha?"😉!! Good work
my friend!

That's all it took, someone to honestly answer a simple question, even though it was an entirely
subjective answer with no qualitative data. One whole person actually bought this bike. What a
groundswell of support!

Lorenzo L. Love home.thegrid.net~llloveOpen ↗

"Americans are broad-minded people. They'll accept the fact that a person can be an alcoholic, a
dope fiend, a wife beater, and even a newspaperman, but if a man doesn't drive there's something
wrong with him." Art Buchwald

What bike isn't purchased on subjective opinions? Life is no mathematical formula: we all have
different tastes. If a guy paid $3000 for his Bigha, and likes it, then I'd say it's a pretty good
deal, wouldn't you?

"Lorenzo L. Love" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Lawrence Turner said:

Congrats TJ. Glad you like the new bike, and on behalf of everyone here at A.R.B.R., THANK YOU
for getting L.L.L. to shut it for once.

Looks like someone finally answered his question ("have you paid $3000 for a Bigha?"😉!! Good
work my friend!

That's all it took, someone to honestly answer a simple question, even though it was an entirely
subjective answer with no qualitative data. One whole person actually bought this bike. What a
groundswell of support!

Lorenzo L. Love home.thegrid.net~llloveOpen ↗

"Americans are broad-minded people. They'll accept the fact that a person can be an alcoholic, a
dope fiend, a wife beater, and even a newspaperman, but if a man doesn't drive there's something
wrong with him." Art Buchwald

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tj Theismen
[B]"Lorenzo L. Love" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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You may consider $3,000 to be too expensive, but I think it's a good deal. That's all that matters to me.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JEGARH
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Originally posted by Tj Theismen
"Lorenzo L. Love" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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You may consider $3,000 to be too expensive, but I think it's a good deal. That's all that matters to me.

Well said, TJ.

Something is worth what you are willing to pay for it.

If you have to worry about the price then you can't afford it.

Jerry

JEGARH said:

Originally posted by Tj Theismen "Lorenzo L. Love" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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You may consider $3,000 to be too expensive, but I think it's a good deal. That's all that
matters to me.

Well said, LLL.

Something is worth what you are willing to pay for it.

If you have to worry about the price then you can't afford it.

Jerry

I didn't write any of the above. If you are in the habit of paying twice what things are worth, then
it will not be long before you can not afford anything. But even if you are so wealthy that the
money doesn't matter, there is an ethical consideration. Look at it this way: You can spend $3000
and brag to your neighbors about how much you spent or you can buy a comparative bicycle for half as
much and quietly give the difference to charity. Conspicuous consumption or helping the needy. We
know what the typical American would come down firmly on the side of conspicuous consumption. What
would Jesus do?

Lorenzo L. Love home.thegrid.net~llloveOpen ↗

"There is enough for everyone's need, but not for everyone's greed." Mohandas K. Gandhi

We

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know what the typical American would come down firmly on the side of conspicuous consumption. What
would Jesus do?

Lorenzo L. Love home.thegrid.net~llloveOpen ↗

uh oh! heretical thread time:

what (recumbent) would jesus drive?

--

rich

"After ecstasy, laundry." - Zen writing

"Lorenzo L. Love" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:0Yuub.4981$sb4.3245
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JEGARH said:

Originally posted by Tj Theismen "Lorenzo L. Love"

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You may consider $3,000 to be too expensive, but I think it's a good deal. That's all that
matters to me.

Well said, LLL.

Something is worth what you are willing to pay for it.

If you have to worry about the price then you can't afford it.

Jerry

I didn't write any of the above. If you are in the habit of paying

twice

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what things are worth, then it will not be long before you can not afford anything. But even if
you are so wealthy that the money doesn't matter, there is an ethical consideration. Look at it
this way: You

can

Quoted message said:

spend $3000 and brag to your neighbors about how much you spent or you can buy a comparative
bicycle for half as much and quietly give the difference to charity. Conspicuous consumption or
helping the needy.

We

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know what the typical American would come down firmly on the side of conspicuous consumption. What
would Jesus do?

Lorenzo L. Love home.thegrid.net~llloveOpen ↗

"There is enough for everyone's need, but not for everyone's greed." Mohandas K. Gandhi

Your misconceptions make you look really silly.

My guess: Jesus would be living in a slum in Rome/Salt Lake City/ London/ Wherever.

When he walked into the Great Mother Church ... what would hit the fan? My guess: every church
leader in sight.

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We

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know what the typical American would come down firmly on the side of conspicuous consumption.
What would Jesus do?

Lorenzo L. Love home.thegrid.net~llloveOpen ↗

uh oh! heretical thread time:

what (recumbent) would jesus drive?

--

rich

"After ecstasy, laundry." - Zen writing