Carnedd Fach

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Adrian <[email hidden]> writes

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Hi All

Last weekend walked up Pen yr Ole Wen in Snowdonia and carried on to
Carnedd Fach all the way to Carnedd Llywelyn. However on my Harveys
map I notice that there is no height for Carnedd Fach. Is Carnedd Fach
classed as a mountain?

If so does anyone know the height?

Many thanks in advance.
Regards

Adrian

Looks like about 960 metres on the 1:25000 OS.

As to whether it's a mountain? Don't start, just don't start....

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Neil Pugh

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Last weekend walked up Pen yr Ole Wen in Snowdonia and carried on to
Carnedd Fach all the way to Carnedd Llywelyn. However on my Harveys
map I notice that there is no height for Carnedd Fach. Is Carnedd Fach
classed as a mountain?

If so does anyone know the height?

Looks like about 960 metres on the 1:25000 OS.

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As to whether it's a mountain? Don't start, just don't start....

It is a pimple on the ridge with just the 960 contour to delineate its
summit. The reascent is so small it doesn't even make the Nuttalls list
of sometimes petty summits. (Minimum 15m of reascent).

--
Roger Chapman
Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
89 miles as the crow flies,
considerably more as the walker drives.

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Last weekend walked up Pen yr Ole Wen in Snowdonia and carried on to
Carnedd Fach all the way to Carnedd Llywelyn. However on my Harveys
map I notice that there is no height for Carnedd Fach. Is Carnedd Fach
classed as a mountain?

If so does anyone know the height?

Looks like about 960 metres on the 1:25000 OS.

Quoted message said:

As to whether it's a mountain? Don't start, just don't start....

It is a pimple on the ridge with just the 960 contour to delineate its
summit. The reascent is so small it doesn't even make the Nuttalls list
of sometimes petty summits. (Minimum 15m of reascent).

In the '70s we counted everything with its own 2000' contour (leading us
onto some dubious boggy mounds), so mt 1" maps are marked with the line.

As to what was a mountain - I've often wondered, so is there a definition,
please?
--
Peter.
If you can do it today, you didn't put off enough yesterday.

In message <[email hidden]>, PeterC
<[email hidden]> writes

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In the '70s we counted everything with its own 2000' contour (leading us
onto some dubious boggy mounds), so mt 1" maps are marked with the line.

As to what was a mountain - I've often wondered, so is there a definition,
please?

There was a huge discussion here back in January, see the link in my
post above. Everyone seems to have their own mutually exclusive
definition. I was, I think, in a minority of one with my contention that
there are no mountains in Britain! See the above link for the whole row
in all it's glorious bloody Technicolor (and please don't start it up
again)!

A quick Google gives examples like:
eg:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain
"A mountain is a landform that extends above the surrounding terrain in
a limited area. A mountain is generally steeper than a hill, but there
is no universally accepted standard definition for the height of a
mountain or a hill although a mountain usually has an identifiable
summit"

Regards,
--
Neil Pugh

Neil Pugh said:

In message <[email hidden]>, PeterC
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

In the '70s we counted everything with its own 2000' contour (leading us
onto some dubious boggy mounds), so mt 1" maps are marked with the line.

Quoted message said:

As to what was a mountain - I've often wondered, so is there a definition,
please?

There was a huge discussion here back in January, see the link in my
post above. Everyone seems to have their own mutually exclusive
definition. I was, I think, in a minority of one with my contention that
there are no mountains in Britain! See the above link for the whole row
in all it's glorious bloody Technicolor (and please don't start it up
again)!

A quick Google gives examples like:
eg:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain
"A mountain is a landform that extends above the surrounding terrain in
a limited area. A mountain is generally steeper than a hill, but there
is no universally accepted standard definition for the height of a
mountain or a hill although a mountain usually has an identifiable
summit"

Regards,
--
Neil Pugh

Hi All

Thank you for your messages and advice. Having investigated and
thought about it I have decided that Carnedd Fach will not be added to
my tick list. It was after all just a large pile of rubble on the
ridge.

Thanks again.

Regards

Adrian

Neil Pugh said:

There was a huge discussion here back in January

:p
--
Peter.
If you can do it today, you didn't put off enough yesterday.