homocystein level

merlijn spinnewijn said:

I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l in a
natural way?

Increase folate intake, eg. eating more green vegetables and green salad. If you can't chew such
things, folate pills could be an option.

Kale is probably the best source

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I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l in
a natural way?

B vitamins. A good B vitamin complex.

TC

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merlijn spinnewijn said:

I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l in
a natural way?

Increase folate intake, eg. eating more green vegetables and green salad.

I eat this with every meal .So this is not always a garantee. Anyway thanks. Maybe I have to try the
folate pills together with B6 and B12.

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Kale is probably the best source

merlijn spinnewijn said:

I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l in a
natural way?

I follow a Paleolithic diet and mine is 6.5. I eat ample meat, lots of eggs, fish and fruit, and
only a fair amount of vegetables. But no grains, beans, potatoes, dairy, or other Neolithic foods.
To learn more you can go to my page: www.paleodiet.com.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

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merlijn spinnewijn said:

I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l in
a natural way?

I follow a Paleolithic diet and mine is 6.5. I eat ample meat, lots of eggs, fish and fruit, and
only a fair amount of vegetables. But no grains, beans, potatoes, dairy, or other Neolithic foods.
To learn more you can go to my page: www.paleodiet.com.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

It sounds very well. You are sure this is mcmol/l and not mg/l ? Did you check also hemoglobin Hb
A1c ? Mine was 5,1 %.

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merlijn spinnewijn said:

I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l in
a natural way?

I follow a Paleolithic diet and mine is 6.5. I eat ample meat, lots of eggs, fish and fruit, and
only a fair amount of vegetables. But no grains, beans, potatoes, dairy, or other Neolithic foods.
To learn more you can go to my page: www.paleodiet.com.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

What level were you at before adopting the Paleolithic diet?

Don Wiss donwiss@no_spam.com said:

merlijn spinnewijn said:

I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l in
a natural way?

I follow a Paleolithic diet and mine is 6.5. I eat ample meat, lots of eggs, fish and fruit, and
only a fair amount of vegetables. But no grains, beans, potatoes, dairy, or other Neolithic foods.
To learn more you can go to my page: www.paleodiet.com.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

If you want to emulate hunter-gatherers, then you need to walk miles each day as they did in search
of food. You can't talk about a Neolithic diet without taking into account their total way of life.
They ate what was available to them. That does not mean that foods not available to them are bad for
you. We are a species adaptable to many foods.

You say you follow a Neolithic diet -- do you also do strenuous exercise each day, without fail?

Don Wiss said:

merlijn spinnewijn said:

I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l in
a natural way?

I follow a Paleolithic diet and mine is 6.5. I eat ample meat, lots of eggs, fish and fruit, and
only a fair amount of vegetables. But no grains, beans, potatoes, dairy, or other Neolithic foods.
To learn more you can go to my page: www.paleodiet.com.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

I eat lots of grains, fruit, vegetables, nuts, some legumes, and my diet is high-carb and very low
meat. I eat fish three times a week. My homocysteine level at last test was 5.9

Mel

One supplement that you should consider is Trimethylgycine (TMG) also known as anhydrous betaine
which seems to help in stubborn cases where folate, B6 and B12 alone have not. It helps to convert
homocystein to methionine via a methylation process. LEF has a recent article that you may wish to
read on the subject at the following link:

lef.orgnov2003 awsi 01.htmlOpen ↗

Ron

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Don Wiss said:

merlijn spinnewijn said:

I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l
in a natural way?

I follow a Paleolithic diet and mine is 6.5. I eat ample meat, lots of eggs, fish and fruit, and
only a fair amount of vegetables. But no grains, beans, potatoes, dairy, or other Neolithic
foods. To learn more you can go to my page: www.paleodiet.com.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

I eat lots of grains, fruit, vegetables, nuts, some legumes, and my diet is high-carb and very low
meat. I eat fish three times a week. My homocysteine level at last test was 5.9

Mel

ron lorden said:

One supplement that you should consider is Trimethylgycine (TMG) also known as anhydrous betaine
which seems to help in stubborn cases where folate, B6 and B12 alone have not. It helps to convert
homocystein to methionine via a methylation process. LEF has a recent article that you may wish to
read on the subject at the following link:

lef.orgnov2003 awsi 01.htmlOpen ↗

Ron

Did you address that to me? My homocysteine level is 5.9

By the way, I am a member of LEF. Have you tried their toothpaste? Not bad. But I wonder how the
toothpaste is helping to prevent gum disease because of CoQ-10 when after you rinse your mouth,
there goes the CoQ-10.

Mel

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Don Wiss said:

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, merlijn spinnewijn <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l
>in a natural way?

I follow a Paleolithic diet and mine is 6.5. I eat ample meat, lots of eggs, fish and fruit, and
only a fair amount of vegetables. But no grains, beans, potatoes, dairy, or other Neolithic
foods. To learn more you can go to my page: www.paleodiet.com.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

I eat lots of grains, fruit, vegetables, nuts, some legumes, and my diet is high-carb and very
low meat. I eat fish three times a week. My homocysteine level at last test was 5.9

Mel

Alf Christophersen said:

merlijn spinnewijn said:

I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l in
a natural way?

Increase folate intake, eg. eating more green vegetables and green salad. If you can't chew such
things, folate pills could be an option.

Kale is probably the best source

How much of an indicator is a good homocysteine level? I mean, my level is
5.9 and how safe am I from getting a heart attack?

I'm 61 and this 22 year old blonde is really after me but I am concerned about having a heart attack
so I am avoiding her. Do you think it's safe for me...?

Mel

merlijn spinnewijn said:

Don Wiss wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I follow a Paleolithic diet and mine is 6.5. I eat ample meat, lots of eggs, fish and fruit, and
only a fair amount of vegetables. But no grains, beans, potatoes, dairy, or other Neolithic
foods. To learn more you can go to my page: www.paleodiet.com.

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It sounds very well. You are sure this is mcmol/l and not mg/l ?

Yes.

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Did you check also hemoglobin Hb A1c ? Mine was 5,1 %.

Let me look... I don't see it. Is this something one has to ask for? The only reason I had
homocystein measured was I asked for it. Next time I'll ask for CRP.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

Kramer said:

Don Wiss said:

merlijn spinnewijn said:

I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l
in a natural way?

I follow a Paleolithic diet and mine is 6.5. I eat ample meat, lots of eggs, fish and fruit, and
only a fair amount of vegetables. But no grains, beans, potatoes, dairy, or other Neolithic
foods. To learn more you can go to my page: www.paleodiet.com.

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What level were you at before adopting the Paleolithic diet?

I don't know. I only have the one test from about 1 3/4 years ago.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

Rita said:

Don Wiss said:

merlijn spinnewijn said:

I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l in
a natural way?

I follow a Paleolithic diet and mine is 6.5. I eat ample meat, lots of eggs, fish and fruit, and
only a fair amount of vegetables. But no grains, beans, potatoes, dairy, or other Neolithic foods.
To learn more you can go to my page: www.paleodiet.com.

Quoted message said:

If you want to emulate hunter-gatherers, then you need to walk miles each day as they did in search
of food. You can't talk about a Neolithic diet without taking into account their total way of life.
They ate what was available to them. That does not mean that foods not available to them are bad
for you. We are a species adaptable to many foods.

You say you follow a Neolithic diet -- do you also do strenuous exercise each day, without fail?

Huh? You are clueless.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

M. Schwartz said:

Don Wiss said:

merlijn spinnewijn said:

I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l in
a natural way?

I follow a Paleolithic diet and mine is 6.5. I eat ample meat, lots of eggs, fish and fruit, and
only a fair amount of vegetables. But no grains, beans, potatoes, dairy, or other Neolithic
foods. To learn more you can go to my page: www.paleodiet.com.

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I eat lots of grains, fruit, vegetables, nuts, some legumes, and my diet is high-carb and very low
meat. I eat fish three times a week. My homocysteine level at last test was 5.9

I have a doctor friend in Australia. At first he said mine was the best he'd seen. Then he wrote
"I've just had 2 ladies with homocysteine of 6.0 and 5.9." I asked about their diet. He wrote: "one
36 year old lady on Halal Muslim Middle Eastern diet. One young lady on a general health conscious
type diet."

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

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I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l in
a natural way?

In the absence of various B vitamins the body cannot metabolize and rid itself of homocysteine. Thus
the levels become raised in the blood. Take a good B vitamin complex. B vitamins are water soluble
and any excess will wash away in the urine. There are no side effects to speak of, except for
yellower urine. It is safe and deals with the underlying problem, which is a B vitamin deficiency.

TC

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Quoted message said:

I did check my homocystein level. It was 12,80 mcmol/l. How can I get it down below 10 mcmol/l in
a natural way?

Increase folate intake, eg. eating more green vegetables and green salad. If you can't chew such
things, folate pills could be an option.

Kale is probably the best source

Quoted message said:

How much of an indicator is a good homocysteine level? I mean, my level is
5.9 and how safe am I from getting a heart attack?

Quoted message said:

I'm 61 and this 22 year old blonde is really after me but I am concerned about having a heart
attack so I am avoiding her. Do you think it's safe for me...?

What? 5.9 or the blond?l

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You say you follow a Neolithic diet -- do you also do strenuous exercise each day, without fail?

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Huh? You are clueless.

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

Actually, a nobody just nailed your Ass!

Just my opinion. But, I am *right* as usual!

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I follow a Paleolithic diet and mine is 6.5. I eat ample meat, lots of eggs, fish and fruit, and
only a fair amount of vegetables. But no grains, beans, potatoes, dairy, or other Neolithic foods.

Do you buy your meat at the local store? Is it the normal kind or free-range, grass-fed type? Did
you have any adverse affect to diary before you removing it from your diet? What caused you to go to
a neolithic diet? What positive/negative changes did you observe?