Obvious jokes

ilan said:

Okay, I haven't seen these here yet (I haven't made a thorough search),
so
it seems I have to be the one to post them.

1. Pro Cycling magazine had a cover featuring "The Basso Code". The
answer
should come out in the next issue, "Brillo".

2. Vinokourov's new team is now completely Wurthless.

I get the 2nd joke completely.

I also have seen the messages regarding Operacion Puerto and that
Brillo is code for Basso. Are there any sources that can explain this
connection in more detail? I just want to be able to tell the joke and
really "get it" myself.
--
Marty

Marty said:

ilan said:

Okay, I haven't seen these here yet (I haven't made a thorough search),
so
it seems I have to be the one to post them.

1. Pro Cycling magazine had a cover featuring "The Basso Code". The
answer
should come out in the next issue, "Brillo".

2. Vinokourov's new team is now completely Wurthless.

I get the 2nd joke completely.

I also have seen the messages regarding Operacion Puerto and that
Brillo is code for Basso. Are there any sources that can explain this
connection in more detail? I just want to be able to tell the joke and
really "get it" myself.
--
Marty

Think "tugboat". It's Basso's dog.

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Marty said:

ilan said:

Okay, I haven't seen these here yet (I haven't made a thorough search),
so
it seems I have to be the one to post them.

1. Pro Cycling magazine had a cover featuring "The Basso Code". The
answer
should come out in the next issue, "Brillo".

2. Vinokourov's new team is now completely Wurthless.

I get the 2nd joke completely.

I also have seen the messages regarding Operacion Puerto and that
Brillo is code for Basso. Are there any sources that can explain this
connection in more detail? I just want to be able to tell the joke and
really "get it" myself.

But it is reported that Ivan Basso's two year old daughter is givibg their
do a different name. I won't be surprised if the prosecutor will submit her
to a gruelling cross-examination. After all, in the war on the use of
performance enhancing products fundamental rights don't count anymore and is
everything allowed.

Benjo

benjo maso said:

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Marty said:

ilan wrote:
> Okay, I haven't seen these here yet (I haven't made a thorough search),
> so
> it seems I have to be the one to post them.
>
> 1. Pro Cycling magazine had a cover featuring "The Basso Code". The
> answer
> should come out in the next issue, "Brillo".
>
> 2. Vinokourov's new team is now completely Wurthless.

I get the 2nd joke completely.

I also have seen the messages regarding Operacion Puerto and that
Brillo is code for Basso. Are there any sources that can explain this
connection in more detail? I just want to be able to tell the joke and
really "get it" myself.

But it is reported that Ivan Basso's two year old daughter is givibg their
do a different name. I won't be surprised if the prosecutor will submit her
to a gruelling cross-examination. After all, in the war on the use of
performance enhancing products fundamental rights don't count anymore and is
everything allowed.

Benjo

When I read that report about his lawyer saying that his daughter calls
the dog by a different name, the first thing I thought was, they got a
new dog.

Yes, since both Basso and Ullrich reacted to their suspensions by
stating
that they would now prove their innocence, it seems clear that the
current
situation is that riders are guilty until proven innocent.

-ilan

benjo maso said:

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Marty said:

ilan wrote:
> Okay, I haven't seen these here yet (I haven't made a thorough search),
> so
> it seems I have to be the one to post them.
>
> 1. Pro Cycling magazine had a cover featuring "The Basso Code". The
> answer
> should come out in the next issue, "Brillo".
>
> 2. Vinokourov's new team is now completely Wurthless.

I get the 2nd joke completely.

I also have seen the messages regarding Operacion Puerto and that
Brillo is code for Basso. Are there any sources that can explain this
connection in more detail? I just want to be able to tell the joke and
really "get it" myself.

But it is reported that Ivan Basso's two year old daughter is givibg their
do a different name. I won't be surprised if the prosecutor will submit her
to a gruelling cross-examination. After all, in the war on the use of
performance enhancing products fundamental rights don't count anymore and is
everything allowed.

Benjo

ilan said:

Yes, since both Basso and Ullrich reacted to their suspensions by
stating
that they would now prove their innocence, it seems clear that the
current
situation is that riders are guilty until proven innocent.

They'll never rest until they find the real dopers.

Ron

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benjo maso said:

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Marty wrote:
> ilan wrote:
> > Okay, I haven't seen these here yet (I haven't made a thorough search),
> > so
> > it seems I have to be the one to post them.
> >
> > 1. Pro Cycling magazine had a cover featuring "The Basso Code". The
> > answer
> > should come out in the next issue, "Brillo".
> >
> > 2. Vinokourov's new team is now completely Wurthless.
>
> I get the 2nd joke completely.
>
> I also have seen the messages regarding Operacion Puerto and that
> Brillo is code for Basso. Are there any sources that can explain this
> connection in more detail? I just want to be able to tell the joke and
> really "get it" myself.

But it is reported that Ivan Basso's two year old daughter is givibg their
do a different name. I won't be surprised if the prosecutor will submit her
to a gruelling cross-examination. After all, in the war on the use of
performance enhancing products fundamental rights don't count anymore and is
everything allowed.

Benjo

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Marty said:

ilan said:

Okay, I haven't seen these here yet (I haven't made a thorough search),
so
it seems I have to be the one to post them.

1. Pro Cycling magazine had a cover featuring "The Basso Code". The
answer
should come out in the next issue, "Brillo".

2. Vinokourov's new team is now completely Wurthless.

I get the 2nd joke completely.

I also have seen the messages regarding Operacion Puerto and that
Brillo is code for Basso. Are there any sources that can explain this
connection in more detail? I just want to be able to tell the joke and
really "get it" myself.
--
Marty

Think "tugboat". It's Basso's dog.

So Lance's dog is "Cowboy"?
--
Marty

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They'll never rest until they find the real dopers.

Look for a one-armed man. But it could be more like poor Jason McCord,
doomed to wander the country with a broken sword, forever accused, never
being able to clear your name. What *do* you do if you're branded, and
you know you're a man?

--
Bill Asher

William Asher said:

RonSonic <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

They'll never rest until they find the real dopers.

Look for a one-armed man. But it could be more like poor Jason McCord,
doomed to wander the country with a broken sword, forever accused, never
being able to clear your name. What *do* you do if you're branded, and
you know you're a man?

First thing I'd do is replace the broken sword with a big-ass rifle.

Robert Chung said:

William Asher said:

RonSonic said:

They'll never rest until they find the real dopers.

Look for a one-armed man. But it could be more like poor Jason McCord,
doomed to wander the country with a broken sword, forever accused, never
being able to clear your name. What *do* you do if you're branded, and
you know you're a man?

You fight for your name. Duh.

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First thing I'd do is replace the broken sword with a big-ass rifle.

How about starring in "Flipper"? Surely Flipper could
find the real dopers. Probably they're in the TV room,
watching "Flipper."

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benjo maso said:

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Marty wrote:
> ilan wrote:
> > Okay, I haven't seen these here yet (I haven't made a thorough
> > search),
> > so
> > it seems I have to be the one to post them.
> >
> > 1. Pro Cycling magazine had a cover featuring "The Basso Code". The
> > answer
> > should come out in the next issue, "Brillo".
> >
> > 2. Vinokourov's new team is now completely Wurthless.
>
> I get the 2nd joke completely.
>
> I also have seen the messages regarding Operacion Puerto and that
> Brillo is code for Basso. Are there any sources that can explain this
> connection in more detail? I just want to be able to tell the joke
> and
> really "get it" myself.

But it is reported that Ivan Basso's two year old daughter is givibg
their
do a different name. I won't be surprised if the prosecutor will submit
her
to a gruelling cross-examination. After all, in the war on the use of
performance enhancing products fundamental rights don't count anymore and
is
everything allowed.

Benjo

When I read that report about his lawyer saying that his daughter calls
the dog by a different name, the first thing I thought was, they got a
new dog.

If that defense doesn't work, will they give the daughter up for adoption?

in message <[email hidden]>, Scott

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Marty said:

ilan said:

Okay, I haven't seen these here yet (I haven't made a thorough
search), so
it seems I have to be the one to post them.

1. Pro Cycling magazine had a cover featuring "The Basso Code". The
answer
should come out in the next issue, "Brillo".

2. Vinokourov's new team is now completely Wurthless.

I get the 2nd joke completely.

I also have seen the messages regarding Operacion Puerto and that
Brillo is code for Basso. Are there any sources that can explain this
connection in more detail? I just want to be able to tell the joke
and really "get it" myself.

Think "tugboat". It's Basso's dog.

Except that Basso and his immediate friends all deny that his dog is
called Birillo. So I think even that is not proven.

--
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;; Sending your money to someone just because they've erected
;; a barrier of obscurity and secrets around the tools you
;; need to use your data does not help the economy or spur
;; innovation. - Waffle Iron Slashdot, June 16th, 2002

"ilan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Yes, since both Basso and Ullrich reacted to their suspensions by
stating
that they would now prove their innocence, it seems clear that the
current
situation is that riders are guilty until proven innocent.

I'm afraid you're wrong. Ullrich and Sevilla said they wanted (or intended)
to prove their innocence. But it was the direction of T-Mobile who presented
an ultimatum. As Christian Frommert, director of sports communications at
T-Mobile said the second of july: if Ullrich could prove his innocence,
possibly by means of a DNA-test, we could discuss a possible reintegration
in the team (see
http://www.faz.net/s/Rub9CD731D06F17450CB39BE001000DD173/Doc~E6C7BD085F08441D78BE32BD970AD6C83~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html.
Of course, to prove his innocence is quite impossible, even if the evidence
is available - which is not the case.
See also:
"We suspended Jan Ullrich, Oscar Sevilla and Rudy Pevenage for the time
being. Of course, it's up to them to prove their innocence." (Cyclingnews 1
july)
"In late June Spanish investigators submitted a document that provided clear
evidence that Jan Ullrich and Oscar Sevilla had tried to boost their
performance through the use of banned substances," states the text of a
T-Mobile press release issued on Friday. "Directly after their subsequent
suspension, Ullrich and Sevilla declared their intent to prove their
innocence. However, right up until the time their contracts were terminated
by T-Mobile and the OLC, neither had brought forward any information to
exonerate themselves." (Cyclingnews today)

Benjo

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Marty said:

ilan wrote:
> Okay, I haven't seen these here yet (I haven't made a thorough
> search), so
> it seems I have to be the one to post them.
>
> 1. Pro Cycling magazine had a cover featuring "The Basso Code". The
> answer
> should come out in the next issue, "Brillo".
>
> 2. Vinokourov's new team is now completely Wurthless.

I get the 2nd joke completely.

I also have seen the messages regarding Operacion Puerto and that
Brillo is code for Basso. Are there any sources that can explain this
connection in more detail? I just want to be able to tell the joke
and really "get it" myself.

Think "tugboat". It's Basso's dog.

Except that Basso and his immediate friends all deny that his dog is
called Birillo. So I think even that is not proven.

Who needs proof? All that counts is the impression that everybody involved
in cycling is making an impression to be dead against "doping". And if Basso
isn't on Fuentes's list, that's too bad. But you just can't make an omelette
without breaking eggs.

Benjo

benjo maso said:

"ilan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Yes, since both Basso and Ullrich reacted to their suspensions by
stating
that they would now prove their innocence, it seems clear that the
current
situation is that riders are guilty until proven innocent.

I'm afraid you're wrong. Ullrich and Sevilla said they wanted (or intended)
to prove their innocence. But it was the direction of T-Mobile who presented
an ultimatum. As Christian Frommert, director of sports communications at
T-Mobile said the second of july: if Ullrich could prove his innocence,
possibly by means of a DNA-test, we could discuss a possible reintegration
in the team (see
http://www.faz.net/s/Rub9CD731D06F17450CB39BE001000DD173/Doc~E6C7BD085F08441D78BE32BD970AD6C83~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html.
Of course, to prove his innocence is quite impossible, even if the evidence
is available - which is not the case.
See also:
"We suspended Jan Ullrich, Oscar Sevilla and Rudy Pevenage for the time
being. Of course, it's up to them to prove their innocence." (Cyclingnews 1
july)
"In late June Spanish investigators submitted a document that provided clear
evidence that Jan Ullrich and Oscar Sevilla had tried to boost their
performance through the use of banned substances," states the text of a
T-Mobile press release issued on Friday. "Directly after their subsequent
suspension, Ullrich and Sevilla declared their intent to prove their
innocence. However, right up until the time their contracts were terminated
by T-Mobile and the OLC, neither had brought forward any information to
exonerate themselves." (Cyclingnews today)

It is impossible to prove ones innocence. What can be proven is that the
particular allegation is false. The more detailed and specific that allegation
is, the easier this is done. Apparently there are specifics for which Jan has no
answer.

Ron

benjo maso said:

"ilan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Yes, since both Basso and Ullrich reacted to their suspensions by
stating
that they would now prove their innocence, it seems clear that the
current
situation is that riders are guilty until proven innocent.

I'm afraid you're wrong.

I'm not wrong, because you have not proved your innocence.

-ilan

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benjo maso said:

"ilan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Yes, since both Basso and Ullrich reacted to their suspensions by
stating
that they would now prove their innocence, it seems clear that the
current
situation is that riders are guilty until proven innocent.

I'm afraid you're wrong.

I'm not wrong, because you have not proved your innocence.

My lawyer instructed me to say nothing.

Benjo

benjo maso said:

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(') said:

Marty wrote:
> ilan wrote:
>> Okay, I haven't seen these here yet (I haven't made a thorough
>> search), so
>> it seems I have to be the one to post them.
>>
>> 1. Pro Cycling magazine had a cover featuring "The Basso Code". The
>> answer
>> should come out in the next issue, "Brillo".
>>
>> 2. Vinokourov's new team is now completely Wurthless.
> I get the 2nd joke completely.
>
> I also have seen the messages regarding Operacion Puerto and that
> Brillo is code for Basso. Are there any sources that can explain this
> connection in more detail? I just want to be able to tell the joke
> and really "get it" myself.
Think "tugboat". It's Basso's dog.

Except that Basso and his immediate friends all deny that his dog is
called Birillo. So I think even that is not proven.

Who needs proof? All that counts is the impression that everybody involved
in cycling is making an impression to be dead against "doping". And if Basso
isn't on Fuentes's list, that's too bad. But you just can't make an omelette
without breaking eggs.

There's also the possibility that we just enjoy breaking eggs. Omelets
merely provide a convenient excuse.

Tim Lines said:

There's also the possibility that we just enjoy breaking eggs. Omelets
merely provide a convenient excuse.

Exactly; where is the omelet?

--keven.