Bread in Plastic

Tom Yost said:

Many years ago, I had a colleague who was a Swiss native. Whenever he
would see one of us making a sandwich, he would turn up his nose and
comment (with heavy French accent) "Ugh, bread in plastic..."

We all thought he was "funny" in his own quirky way. After all, what
other kind of bread was there? Bread would become stale if it were not
in plastic.

Over the years, after visiting Europe, and with the advent of
supermarkets offering baguettes and "artisan" breads, I've come to
realize, my little Swiss friend was right - plastic ruins bread.

Bread is another one of those things that in the cause of convienence
and mass marketing (like coffee and beer), we Americans have evolved a
product that is nothing like the real thing. "Best thing since sliced
bread" is a saying that doesn't have a lot of meaning to me anymore.

I see now that bread is one of those things that must be consumed
fresh - eaten the day it is baked, otherwise fed to the birds.

Some of the supermarkets offering fresh baguettes get it right - the
baguette is in a paper bag and leftovers are tossed at the end of the
day, replaced by freshly baked loaves the next morning.

Some supermarkets don't get it, opting to shove leftovers into plastic
bags and offering for sale. Some don't get it at all, putting freshly
baked baguettes into a plastic bag! The horror!

Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
bread NOT in plastic!

Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon

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Tom

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says...

Quoted message said:

Many years ago, I had a colleague who was a Swiss native. Whenever he
would see one of us making a sandwich, he would turn up his nose and
comment (with heavy French accent) "Ugh, bread in plastic..."

We all thought he was "funny" in his own quirky way. After all, what
other kind of bread was there? Bread would become stale if it were not
in plastic.

Over the years, after visiting Europe, and with the advent of
supermarkets offering baguettes and "artisan" breads, I've come to
realize, my little Swiss friend was right - plastic ruins bread.

Bread is another one of those things that in the cause of convienence
and mass marketing (like coffee and beer), we Americans have evolved a
product that is nothing like the real thing. "Best thing since sliced
bread" is a saying that doesn't have a lot of meaning to me anymore.

I see now that bread is one of those things that must be consumed
fresh - eaten the day it is baked, otherwise fed to the birds.

Some of the supermarkets offering fresh baguettes get it right - the
baguette is in a paper bag and leftovers are tossed at the end of the
day, replaced by freshly baked loaves the next morning.

Some supermarkets don't get it, opting to shove leftovers into plastic
bags and offering for sale. Some don't get it at all, putting freshly
baked baguettes into a plastic bag! The horror!

Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
bread NOT in plastic!

I have noted those vented plastic bags used for some breads. They seem
to let the moisture out after baking which maintains that crunchy crust.
But its true - I tend to buy more loaves of bread which I plan to finish
within a day or two. And whatever is left over gets turned into
breadcrumbs sometimes.

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Quoted message said:

Many years ago, I had a colleague who was a Swiss native. Whenever he
would see one of us making a sandwich, he would turn up his nose and
comment (with heavy French accent) "Ugh, bread in plastic..."

We all thought he was "funny" in his own quirky way. After all, what
other kind of bread was there? Bread would become stale if it were not
in plastic.

Over the years, after visiting Europe, and with the advent of
supermarkets offering baguettes and "artisan" breads, I've come to
realize, my little Swiss friend was right - plastic ruins bread.

Bread is another one of those things that in the cause of convienence
and mass marketing (like coffee and beer), we Americans have evolved a
product that is nothing like the real thing. "Best thing since sliced
bread" is a saying that doesn't have a lot of meaning to me anymore.

I see now that bread is one of those things that must be consumed
fresh - eaten the day it is baked, otherwise fed to the birds.

Some of the supermarkets offering fresh baguettes get it right - the
baguette is in a paper bag and leftovers are tossed at the end of the
day, replaced by freshly baked loaves the next morning.

Some supermarkets don't get it, opting to shove leftovers into plastic
bags and offering for sale. Some don't get it at all, putting freshly
baked baguettes into a plastic bag! The horror!

Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
bread NOT in plastic!

Tom

Bread is supposed to keep longer in plastic than in paper. I would agree.
But ultimatley, it's a matter of taste, of course.

biig said:

Tom Yost said:

Many years ago, I had a colleague who was a Swiss native. Whenever he
would see one of us making a sandwich, he would turn up his nose and
comment (with heavy French accent) "Ugh, bread in plastic..."

We all thought he was "funny" in his own quirky way. After all, what
other kind of bread was there? Bread would become stale if it were not
in plastic.

Over the years, after visiting Europe, and with the advent of
supermarkets offering baguettes and "artisan" breads, I've come to
realize, my little Swiss friend was right - plastic ruins bread.

Bread is another one of those things that in the cause of convienence
and mass marketing (like coffee and beer), we Americans have evolved a
product that is nothing like the real thing. "Best thing since sliced
bread" is a saying that doesn't have a lot of meaning to me anymore.

I see now that bread is one of those things that must be consumed
fresh - eaten the day it is baked, otherwise fed to the birds.

Some of the supermarkets offering fresh baguettes get it right - the
baguette is in a paper bag and leftovers are tossed at the end of the
day, replaced by freshly baked loaves the next morning.

Some supermarkets don't get it, opting to shove leftovers into plastic
bags and offering for sale. Some don't get it at all, putting freshly
baked baguettes into a plastic bag! The horror!

Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
bread NOT in plastic!

Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon

Quoted message said:

Tom

Hmmm, I'm not old enough for that, but my claim to fame is remembering
when soda and beer cans switched from pull tabs (that cut your feet at
the beach) to flip tabs.

Pete C.

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I see now that bread is one of those things that must be consumed
fresh - eaten the day it is baked, otherwise fed to the birds.

Depends on the bread. Those crusty french & Italian breads should be
eaten as soon as possible but a hearty rye or pumpernickel can keep for
days. And there are a lot of ways to use old bread besides feeding
birds.

T said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

Many years ago, I had a colleague who was a Swiss native. Whenever he
would see one of us making a sandwich, he would turn up his nose and
comment (with heavy French accent) "Ugh, bread in plastic..."

We all thought he was "funny" in his own quirky way. After all, what
other kind of bread was there? Bread would become stale if it were not
in plastic.

Over the years, after visiting Europe, and with the advent of
supermarkets offering baguettes and "artisan" breads, I've come to
realize, my little Swiss friend was right - plastic ruins bread.

Bread is another one of those things that in the cause of convienence
and mass marketing (like coffee and beer), we Americans have evolved a
product that is nothing like the real thing. "Best thing since sliced
bread" is a saying that doesn't have a lot of meaning to me anymore.

I see now that bread is one of those things that must be consumed
fresh - eaten the day it is baked, otherwise fed to the birds.

Some of the supermarkets offering fresh baguettes get it right - the
baguette is in a paper bag and leftovers are tossed at the end of the
day, replaced by freshly baked loaves the next morning.

Some supermarkets don't get it, opting to shove leftovers into plastic
bags and offering for sale. Some don't get it at all, putting freshly
baked baguettes into a plastic bag! The horror!

Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
bread NOT in plastic!

I have noted those vented plastic bags used for some breads. They seem
to let the moisture out after baking which maintains that crunchy crust.
But its true - I tend to buy more loaves of bread which I plan to finish
within a day or two. And whatever is left over gets turned into
breadcrumbs sometimes.

Most bakeries offer breads in paper bags or more recently in
micro-perforated cellophane and then in paper bags Those stupidmarket
breads that are typically packaged in plastic bags were never meant to
be considered bread... like beer in a can ain't really beer.

Sheldon

On Thu, 25 May 2006 00:13:07 +0200, "Jke" <[email hidden]>

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Bread is supposed to keep longer in plastic than in paper. I would agree.
But ultimatley, it's a matter of taste, of course.

Indeed, it keeps longer in plastic, but at that point you no longer
have bread but more a wad of soft, gummy dough.

I concede it's a matter of taste. Some folks like Folgers, some like
Budweiser.

Tom

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T said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

Many years ago, I had a colleague who was a Swiss native. Whenever he
would see one of us making a sandwich, he would turn up his nose and
comment (with heavy French accent) "Ugh, bread in plastic..."

We all thought he was "funny" in his own quirky way. After all, what
other kind of bread was there? Bread would become stale if it were not
in plastic.

Over the years, after visiting Europe, and with the advent of
supermarkets offering baguettes and "artisan" breads, I've come to
realize, my little Swiss friend was right - plastic ruins bread.

Bread is another one of those things that in the cause of convienence
and mass marketing (like coffee and beer), we Americans have evolved a
product that is nothing like the real thing. "Best thing since sliced
bread" is a saying that doesn't have a lot of meaning to me anymore.

I see now that bread is one of those things that must be consumed
fresh - eaten the day it is baked, otherwise fed to the birds.

Some of the supermarkets offering fresh baguettes get it right - the
baguette is in a paper bag and leftovers are tossed at the end of the
day, replaced by freshly baked loaves the next morning.

Some supermarkets don't get it, opting to shove leftovers into plastic
bags and offering for sale. Some don't get it at all, putting freshly
baked baguettes into a plastic bag! The horror!

Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
bread NOT in plastic!

I have noted those vented plastic bags used for some breads. They seem
to let the moisture out after baking which maintains that crunchy crust.
But its true - I tend to buy more loaves of bread which I plan to finish
within a day or two. And whatever is left over gets turned into
breadcrumbs sometimes.

Most bakeries offer breads in paper bags or more recently in
micro-perforated cellophane and then in paper bags Those stupidmarket
breads that are typically packaged in plastic bags were never meant to
be considered bread... like beer in a can ain't really beer.

Sheldon

Same could be said of beer in a bottle too. We've got two very nice
little brew pubs here in the city and the quality is far superior to
anything you could buy that's prepackaged.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

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On Thu, 25 May 2006 00:13:07 +0200, "Jke" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Bread is supposed to keep longer in plastic than in paper. I would agree.
But ultimatley, it's a matter of taste, of course.

Indeed, it keeps longer in plastic, but at that point you no longer
have bread but more a wad of soft, gummy dough.

I concede it's a matter of taste. Some folks like Folgers, some like
Budweiser.

Putting some types of bread into air tight containers completely ruins
them. Crusty breads need to be in the open air to some degree, otherwise
you end up with a tough, rubbery crust. Yuck!

Sort of like how I re-bake pizzas when I order out. I like a crispy
crust and baking on the rack in a 400F oven for 7 or so minutes gets it
the way I like it.

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biig said:

Tom Yost said:

Many years ago, I had a colleague who was a Swiss native. Whenever he
would see one of us making a sandwich, he would turn up his nose and
comment (with heavy French accent) "Ugh, bread in plastic..."

We all thought he was "funny" in his own quirky way. After all, what
other kind of bread was there? Bread would become stale if it were not
in plastic.

Over the years, after visiting Europe, and with the advent of
supermarkets offering baguettes and "artisan" breads, I've come to
realize, my little Swiss friend was right - plastic ruins bread.

Bread is another one of those things that in the cause of convienence
and mass marketing (like coffee and beer), we Americans have evolved a
product that is nothing like the real thing. "Best thing since sliced
bread" is a saying that doesn't have a lot of meaning to me anymore.

I see now that bread is one of those things that must be consumed
fresh - eaten the day it is baked, otherwise fed to the birds.

Some of the supermarkets offering fresh baguettes get it right - the
baguette is in a paper bag and leftovers are tossed at the end of the
day, replaced by freshly baked loaves the next morning.

Some supermarkets don't get it, opting to shove leftovers into plastic
bags and offering for sale. Some don't get it at all, putting freshly
baked baguettes into a plastic bag! The horror!

Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
bread NOT in plastic!

Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon

Quoted message said:

Tom

Hmmm, I'm not old enough for that, but my claim to fame is remembering
when soda and beer cans switched from pull tabs (that cut your feet at
the beach) to flip tabs.

I remember those too. But then they switched to those buttons that you
had to punch in which wasn't much better. Now the pull ring design is
pretty good. The fact that I shun soda now makes it a non-issue with me.

T said:

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Most bakeries offer breads in paper bags or more recently in
micro-perforated cellophane and then in paper bags Those stupidmarket
breads that are typically packaged in plastic bags were never meant to
be considered bread... like beer in a can ain't really beer.

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Same could be said of beer in a bottle too. We've got two very nice
little brew pubs here in the city and the quality is far superior to
anything you could buy that's prepackaged.

There is such a thing as bottle-conditioned beer. Not
particularly common, but it's a valid brewing technique.

Steve

"Tom Yost" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I see now that bread is one of those things that must be consumed
fresh - eaten the day it is baked, otherwise fed to the birds.

Tom

Tom, I like toast made from bread that is not necessarily fresh.
I make bread and always slice it and put it in the freezer (in plastic bags)
for toasting; Or just thawing and eating later.

Tom, do you bake bread? Do you/your family eat what you can of a fresh loaf
one day, and then feed it to the birds?
I buy good bird seed for my birds. They seem to like it.
Happy baking,
Dee Dee

"biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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Tom Yost said:

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Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
bread NOT in plastic!

Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon

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Tom

Yikes, too. Sharon, I can never remember such a happenstance. Where was
this and what years? Was it in the city? I'm amazed.
Thanks for 'sharing' this. So interesting to me.
Dee Dee

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Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon

Hmmm, I'm not old enough for that, but my claim to fame is remembering
when soda and beer cans switched from pull tabs (that cut your feet at
the beach) to flip tabs.

Pete C.

Hmm, again -- I never even noticed one or the other.
Infamous,
Dee Dee

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Same could be said of beer in a bottle too. We've got two very nice
little brew pubs here in the city and the quality is far superior to
anything you could buy that's prepackaged.

Why is it that draft beer almost always tastes superior. We were in
Willamantic, CT looking for tartaric acid and rennet last weekend and had a
nice chat with the owner or guy who worked at the brewery supply store. He
told us that he had a cherry beer on draft at the brew pub there. We didn't
get a chance to have it as it was early in the day and DH had some driving
to do.
Cherry beer? I would've laughed, but didn't want to be discourteous; it
probably is good. Perhaps it is like a root beer?
Dee Dee

Dee Randall said:

Why is it that draft beer almost always tastes superior. We were in
Willamantic, CT looking for tartaric acid and rennet last weekend and had a
nice chat with the owner or guy who worked at the brewery supply store. He
told us that he had a cherry beer on draft at the brew pub there. We didn't
get a chance to have it as it was early in the day and DH had some driving
to do.
Cherry beer? I would've laughed, but didn't want to be discourteous; it
probably is good. Perhaps it is like a root beer?

Possibly intended to be Belgian-style.

Not necessarily to my liking either.

S.

"Pete C." wrote

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biig said:

Tom Yost said:

Many years ago, I had a colleague who was a Swiss native. Whenever he
would see one of us making a sandwich, he would turn up his nose and
comment (with heavy French accent) "Ugh, bread in plastic..."

We all thought he was "funny" in his own quirky way. After all, what
other kind of bread was there? Bread would become stale if it were not
in plastic.

Over the years, after visiting Europe, and with the advent of
supermarkets offering baguettes and "artisan" breads, I've come to
realize, my little Swiss friend was right - plastic ruins bread.

Bread is another one of those things that in the cause of convienence
and mass marketing (like coffee and beer), we Americans have evolved a
product that is nothing like the real thing. "Best thing since sliced
bread" is a saying that doesn't have a lot of meaning to me anymore.

I see now that bread is one of those things that must be consumed
fresh - eaten the day it is baked, otherwise fed to the birds.

Some of the supermarkets offering fresh baguettes get it right - the
baguette is in a paper bag and leftovers are tossed at the end of the
day, replaced by freshly baked loaves the next morning.

Some supermarkets don't get it, opting to shove leftovers into plastic
bags and offering for sale. Some don't get it at all, putting freshly
baked baguettes into a plastic bag! The horror!

Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
bread NOT in plastic!

Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon

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Tom

Hmmm, I'm not old enough for that, but my claim to fame is remembering
when soda and beer cans switched from pull tabs (that cut your feet at
the beach) to flip tabs.

I remember collecting beer tabs to make a chain. It was used to "decorate"
my dorm room.

Kelly

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Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon
> Tom

Hmmm, I'm not old enough for that, but my claim to fame is remembering
when soda and beer cans switched from pull tabs (that cut your feet at
the beach) to flip tabs.

I remember collecting beer tabs to make a chain. It was used to "decorate"
my dorm room.

Kelly

Couldn't help but smiling and wondering if life has changed much for you?
<ducking and running>
Dee Dee

"Dee Randall" wrote

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> > Tom

Hmmm, I'm not old enough for that, but my claim to fame is remembering
when soda and beer cans switched from pull tabs (that cut your feet at
the beach) to flip tabs.

I remember collecting beer tabs to make a chain. It was used to

"decorate"

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my dorm room.

Kelly

Couldn't help but smiling and wondering if life has changed much for you?
<ducking and running>

I no longer live in a dorm and they no longer make beer cans with the tabs
so my apartment is undecorated. :-)

Kelly