Bread in Plastic

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Same could be said of beer in a bottle too. We've got two very nice
little brew pubs here in the city and the quality is far superior to
anything you could buy that's prepackaged.

Why is it that draft beer almost always tastes superior. We were in
Willamantic, CT looking for tartaric acid and rennet last weekend and had a
nice chat with the owner or guy who worked at the brewery supply store. He
told us that he had a cherry beer on draft at the brew pub there. We didn't
get a chance to have it as it was early in the day and DH had some driving
to do.
Cherry beer? I would've laughed, but didn't want to be discourteous; it
probably is good. Perhaps it is like a root beer?
Dee Dee

Some of the fruit mixes with beer are quite good. Every now and then
they'll do pumpkin variants or other fruit variants at the local brew
houses.

Tom; A beautiful, well-written post; my sentiments exactly. Down with
plastic bread wrappers!! Carol

Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we
are here, we may as well dance!

Re: cherry-flavored beer. Kriek is a Belgian beer flavored with
cherry. IMHO, it tastes horrible! Carol

Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we
are here, we may as well dance!

Dee Randall said:

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Tom Yost wrote:

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Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
bread NOT in plastic!

Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon

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Tom

Yikes, too. Sharon, I can never remember such a happenstance. Where was
this and what years? Was it in the city? I'm amazed.
Thanks for 'sharing' this. So interesting to me.
Dee Dee

Not only can I remember bread in waxed paper wrappers, I can remember
when milk came in bottles and was delivered by a horse-drawn cart. The
horse knew the route and used to plod along steadily while the milko
dashed between the cart and the houses.

People a generation older than I can of course remember when the milk
didn't come in bottles, it was in cans and it was ladled into the billy
you left hanging on the gate!

Christine

Carol Garbo said:

Tom; A beautiful, well-written post; my sentiments exactly. Down with
plastic bread wrappers!! Carol

Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we
are here, we may as well dance!

I think what you really mean is down with plastic bread!

Christine

Sheldon said:

like beer in a can ain't really beer.

Sad but true: canned Heineken is ages far from the one they pour in
Amsterdam.
--
Vilco
Think pink, drink rose'

biig said:

Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon

My dad used to take his "Piece" [sandwich] to work wrapped in the wax
paper; okay he then put it in a plastic box! But he was going down a mine.

This was made with a "Plain" loaf, actually now know this was half a
split-tin loaf, which is why we were sent to the shop and told to buy a
half loaf. Which to us children was weird as it looked like a whole one
to us! The innocence of childhood.

Graham

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Tom Yost wrote:

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> Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
> let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
> bread NOT in plastic!
>
>
Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon

> Tom
>

Yikes, too. Sharon, I can never remember such a happenstance. Where was
this and what years? Was it in the city? I'm amazed.
Thanks for 'sharing' this. So interesting to me.
Dee Dee

Not only can I remember bread in waxed paper wrappers, I can remember when
milk came in bottles and was delivered by a horse-drawn cart. The horse
knew the route and used to plod along steadily while the milko dashed
between the cart and the houses.

People a generation older than I can of course remember when the milk
didn't come in bottles, it was in cans and it was ladled into the billy
you left hanging on the gate!

Christine

Christine,
Where and when was this that you remember when milk came by horse-drawn
cart?
I'm so so curious?
Dee Dee

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Carol Garbo said:

Tom; A beautiful, well-written post; my sentiments exactly. Down with
plastic bread wrappers!! Carol

Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we
are here, we may as well dance!

I think what you really mean is down with plastic bread!

Christine

Last Sunday I was in a relatively good bakery in Orange, CT called Julia's.
I noticed their soda bread price of $3.75. It was a SMALL boule. I made 2
large ones the week prior that would have been at least equal to 4 of them;
I thought immediately $3.75 x 4=$15. One may say, your time is worth
something, the electricity is worth something. Yes, it is, but my health
and enjoyment is priceless - to me and my family.

PS, My soda bread is always a little different, as I tinker with the recipe
for fun. Last time it was simple, I exchanged some white with barley flour
on one. And on the other, I exchanged some white with whole wheat. Whole
wheat is not my favorite grain, but it actually tasted as good as the one
with barley. (I had ground the barley myself.)

There is no reason to buy plastic bread as there are breads around that are
better. You just have to go out of your way to find them. Better still, if
you have the time bake them yourself. A bread machine will give you great
multi-grain and rye breads.
Dee Dee

Old Mother Ashby said:

Dee Randall said:

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Tom Yost wrote:

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> Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
> let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
> bread NOT in plastic!
>
>
Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon

> Tom
>

Yikes, too. Sharon, I can never remember such a happenstance. Where was
this and what years? Was it in the city? I'm amazed.
Thanks for 'sharing' this. So interesting to me.
Dee Dee

Not only can I remember bread in waxed paper wrappers, I can remember
when milk came in bottles and was delivered by a horse-drawn cart. The
horse knew the route and used to plod along steadily while the milko
dashed between the cart and the houses.

People a generation older than I can of course remember when the milk
didn't come in bottles, it was in cans and it was ladled into the billy
you left hanging on the gate!

Christine

This brought back another memory for me. When staying with my
grandmother in the early fifties, she used to get milk in the bottle
that had a "balloon" bit at the top, where the cream would rise. If not
brought inside quickly in the winter, the cream would freeze and force
the paper cap up....voila...ice cream....it was considered a treat.
Back then we didn't have refridgerators, but iceboxes. I was married in
1959 and we started out with an icebox. The next year, ice delivery was
terminated in our area....Sharon

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Hmmm, I'm not old enough for that, but my claim to fame is remembering
when soda and beer cans switched from pull tabs (that cut your feet at
the beach) to flip tabs.

Hey, that's not so old! I remember when they switched from having to use
a church key to the pull tabs.

--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

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Tom Yost wrote:
>

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>
> Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
> let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
> bread NOT in plastic!
>

Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon
> Tom

Yikes, too. Sharon, I can never remember such a happenstance. Where was
this and what years? Was it in the city? I'm amazed.
Thanks for 'sharing' this. So interesting to me.
Dee Dee

Bread, baked goods and milk were still delivered to the door as
recently?? as 1966. But the wax paper wrappings I remember were from
when I was a kid. In the fifties. Mom would put a sign in the window
so the bread man, the milkman, the ice man, and the cleaners could stop
when needed. (Sheldon...no comment on this please...this was my MOM ...
LOL)
She would put the appropriate sign in. I've always lived in SW Ontrio
Canada. In 1960, bread was about 9 cents a loaf, and I would buy milk
tickets on payday and use them as needed. ......Sharon

Thanks, Sharon. Now I remember that the truck with manufactured bread and
manufactured baked goods would come to the door when you subscribed. It
must be in the very early 50's in Parkersburg, WV, USA that I remember it
from. Also I remember when the milk bottles had the cardboard tabs. What
was it that they changed to after the cardboard tabs; I can't remember. Or
did they just quit putting the carboard tabs on milk bottles at that point?
Dee Dee

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Dee Randall said:

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> Tom Yost wrote:
>

>> Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
>> let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
>> bread NOT in plastic!
>>
>>
> Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
> wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon
>
>> Tom
>>

Yikes, too. Sharon, I can never remember such a happenstance. Where
was
this and what years? Was it in the city? I'm amazed.
Thanks for 'sharing' this. So interesting to me.
Dee Dee

Not only can I remember bread in waxed paper wrappers, I can remember
when milk came in bottles and was delivered by a horse-drawn cart. The
horse knew the route and used to plod along steadily while the milko
dashed between the cart and the houses.

People a generation older than I can of course remember when the milk
didn't come in bottles, it was in cans and it was ladled into the billy
you left hanging on the gate!

Christine

This brought back another memory for me. When staying with my
grandmother in the early fifties, she used to get milk in the bottle
that had a "balloon" bit at the top, where the cream would rise. If not
brought inside quickly in the winter, the cream would freeze and force
the paper cap up....voila...ice cream....it was considered a treat.
Back then we didn't have refridgerators, but iceboxes. I was married in
1959 and we started out with an icebox. The next year, ice delivery was
terminated in our area....Sharon

I had a classmate that her father owned an ice-house business. I believe it
went out of delivery business in the early 50's. On the farm when we had a
coal/wood stove, we did have a refrigerator in the early 40's as I recall. I
know for sure we had one in 1945 when I went to live with my grandmother and
grandfather. (West Virginia)
Dee Dee

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Old Mother Ashby said:

Dee Randall wrote:
> "biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> Tom Yost wrote:
>>
>
>
>>> Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
>>> let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
>>> bread NOT in plastic!
>>>
>>>
>> Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
>> wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon
>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>
> Yikes, too. Sharon, I can never remember such a happenstance. Where
> was
> this and what years? Was it in the city? I'm amazed.
> Thanks for 'sharing' this. So interesting to me.
> Dee Dee
>
>
>
Not only can I remember bread in waxed paper wrappers, I can remember
when milk came in bottles and was delivered by a horse-drawn cart. The
horse knew the route and used to plod along steadily while the milko
dashed between the cart and the houses.

People a generation older than I can of course remember when the milk
didn't come in bottles, it was in cans and it was ladled into the billy
you left hanging on the gate!

Christine

This brought back another memory for me. When staying with my
grandmother in the early fifties, she used to get milk in the bottle
that had a "balloon" bit at the top, where the cream would rise. If not
brought inside quickly in the winter, the cream would freeze and force
the paper cap up....voila...ice cream....it was considered a treat.
Back then we didn't have refridgerators, but iceboxes. I was married in
1959 and we started out with an icebox. The next year, ice delivery was
terminated in our area....Sharon

I had a classmate that her father owned an ice-house business. I believe it
went out of delivery business in the early 50's. On the farm when we had a
coal/wood stove, we did have a refrigerator in the early 40's as I recall. I
know for sure we had one in 1945 when I went to live with my grandmother and
grandfather. (West Virginia)
Dee Dee

I remember going to the beach in the mid to late 40's and the cottage
we rented had an ice box. The ice man came by every couple of days.

I also remember that when I was small the apartment we lived in came
with a refrigerator. Milk was delivered in glass bottles,
unhomogenized. Groceries were also delivered at no charge. My mother
worked and often could not get to the store, so she would call in the
order and have it delivered. Small town.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974

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>
> Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
> wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon
>> Tom

Yikes, too. Sharon, I can never remember such a happenstance. Where was
this and what years? Was it in the city? I'm amazed.
Thanks for 'sharing' this. So interesting to me.
Dee Dee

Bread, baked goods and milk were still delivered to the door as
recently?? as 1966. But the wax paper wrappings I remember were from
when I was a kid. In the fifties. Mom would put a sign in the window
so the bread man, the milkman, the ice man, and the cleaners could stop
when needed. (Sheldon...no comment on this please...this was my MOM ...
LOL)
She would put the appropriate sign in. I've always lived in SW Ontrio
Canada. In 1960, bread was about 9 cents a loaf, and I would buy milk
tickets on payday and use them as needed. ......Sharon

Thanks, Sharon. Now I remember that the truck with manufactured bread and
manufactured baked goods would come to the door when you subscribed. It
must be in the very early 50's in Parkersburg, WV, USA that I remember it
from. Also I remember when the milk bottles had the cardboard tabs. What
was it that they changed to after the cardboard tabs; I can't remember. Or
did they just quit putting the carboard tabs on milk bottles at that point?
Dee Dee

I seem to remember that over the cardboard tab, there was another cap
that was formed to fit over the edge of the bottle top....Sharon

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This brought back another memory for me. When staying with my
grandmother in the early fifties, she used to get milk in the bottle
that had a "balloon" bit at the top, where the cream would rise. If not
brought inside quickly in the winter, the cream would freeze and force
the paper cap up....voila...ice cream....it was considered a treat.
Back then we didn't have refridgerators, but iceboxes. I was married in
1959 and we started out with an icebox. The next year, ice delivery was
terminated in our area....Sharon

I had a classmate that her father owned an ice-house business. I believe it
went out of delivery business in the early 50's. On the farm when we had a
coal/wood stove, we did have a refrigerator in the early 40's as I recall. I
know for sure we had one in 1945 when I went to live with my grandmother and
grandfather. (West Virginia)
Dee Dee

My parents got their first fridge around 1950. When I got married
(at age 16) we had nothing. An aunt gave us a couch, a wringer washer
(brand name Locomotive .lol.) and an icebox. We used it for a couple of
years.
....... Sharon

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Tom Yost said:

Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
bread NOT in plastic!

It depends what kind of bread. The baguettes you mention would be
ruined in plastic, but sandwich bread is fine in plastic. I bake my own
bread, so freshness isn't a huge issue here.

Regards,
Ranee

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This brought back another memory for me. When staying with my
grandmother in the early fifties, she used to get milk in the bottle
that had a "balloon" bit at the top, where the cream would rise. If
not
brought inside quickly in the winter, the cream would freeze and force
the paper cap up....voila...ice cream....it was considered a treat.
Back then we didn't have refridgerators, but iceboxes. I was married
in
1959 and we started out with an icebox. The next year, ice delivery
was
terminated in our area....Sharon

I had a classmate that her father owned an ice-house business. I believe
it
went out of delivery business in the early 50's. On the farm when we had
a
coal/wood stove, we did have a refrigerator in the early 40's as I
recall. I
know for sure we had one in 1945 when I went to live with my grandmother
and
grandfather. (West Virginia)
Dee Dee

My parents got their first fridge around 1950. When I got married
(at age 16) we had nothing. An aunt gave us a couch, a wringer washer
(brand name Locomotive .lol.) and an icebox. We used it for a couple of
years.
....... Sharon

You were lucky to have those gifts and relatives. Today kids won't accept
used gifts as often IMO; they want their own new stuff. I know a case where
a freezer was given to a relative and she sold it for so little it made my
head swim.

I guess this is upper-most in my mind today, as we are taking some dear golf
clubs and 3 bicycles to the Salvation Army. I have an old Yamaha DX7 and
some musical equipment which I don't think they will accept. Salvation Army
is my only choice; otherwise to the dump. These things can no longer be
stored in our house! We've decided.
Dee Dee

Dee Randall said:

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>
> This brought back another memory for me. When staying with my
> grandmother in the early fifties, she used to get milk in the bottle
> that had a "balloon" bit at the top, where the cream would rise. If
> not
> brought inside quickly in the winter, the cream would freeze and force
> the paper cap up....voila...ice cream....it was considered a treat.
> Back then we didn't have refridgerators, but iceboxes. I was married
> in
> 1959 and we started out with an icebox. The next year, ice delivery
> was
> terminated in our area....Sharon

I had a classmate that her father owned an ice-house business. I believe
it
went out of delivery business in the early 50's. On the farm when we had
a
coal/wood stove, we did have a refrigerator in the early 40's as I
recall. I
know for sure we had one in 1945 when I went to live with my grandmother
and
grandfather. (West Virginia)
Dee Dee

My parents got their first fridge around 1950. When I got married
(at age 16) we had nothing. An aunt gave us a couch, a wringer washer
(brand name Locomotive .lol.) and an icebox. We used it for a couple of
years.
....... Sharon

You were lucky to have those gifts and relatives. Today kids won't accept
used gifts as often IMO; they want their own new stuff. I know a case where
a freezer was given to a relative and she sold it for so little it made my
head swim.

I guess this is upper-most in my mind today, as we are taking some dear golf
clubs and 3 bicycles to the Salvation Army. I have an old Yamaha DX7 and
some musical equipment which I don't think they will accept. Salvation Army
is my only choice; otherwise to the dump. These things can no longer be
stored in our house! We've decided.
Dee Dee

I was very lucky. My marriage has lasted too... improved with time.
I'm also lucky, as my youngest son's fiance is also very appreciative of
these things. We frequently go yard saling with them and they take
great pleasure in finding usefull things for very little money. It will
be the 2nd marriage for both of them and they are starting with very
little as they both left most of their belongings behind when their
marriages ended. Their values are very old-fashioned, I'm afriad, since
most couples starting out these days want everything it took their
parents 30 or more years to accumulate.....Sharon

Dee Randall said:

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I see now that bread is one of those things that must be consumed
fresh - eaten the day it is baked, otherwise fed to the birds.

Tom

Tom, I like toast made from bread that is not necessarily fresh.
I make bread and always slice it and put it in the freezer (in plastic bags)
for toasting; Or just thawing and eating later.

Tom, do you bake bread? Do you/your family eat what you can of a fresh loaf
one day, and then feed it to the birds?
I buy good bird seed for my birds. They seem to like it.
Happy baking,
Dee Dee

I love to cook, but never have taken the time to develop any baking or
breadmaking skills. I would love to make french style bread.

I do make pizza dough from scratch and am happy with the results so I
guess I'm most of the way there.

I do have a baking stone for my oven.

I get scared off when I read recipies that have multiple rises in
between trips to the refrigerator.

Anyone with a nice recipie for a baguette ?

Tom