Bread in Plastic

Dee Randall said:

I guess this is upper-most in my mind today, as we are taking some dear golf
clubs and 3 bicycles to the Salvation Army. I have an old Yamaha DX7 and
some musical equipment which I don't think they will accept. Salvation Army
is my only choice; otherwise to the dump. These things can no longer be
stored in our house! We've decided.
Dee Dee

Golf clubs!
DX7 !!!!

These are treasures!

I'm coming over right now! Where do you live again?

Tom

Old Mother Ashby said:

Carol Garbo said:

Tom; A beautiful, well-written post; my sentiments exactly. Down with
plastic bread wrappers!! Carol

I think what you really mean is down with plastic bread!

Bread in plastic == plastic bread.

Tom

AMEN!!!

Cindy

Have a good day`

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Dee Randall said:

I guess this is upper-most in my mind today, as we are taking some dear
golf
clubs and 3 bicycles to the Salvation Army. I have an old Yamaha DX7 and
some musical equipment which I don't think they will accept. Salvation
Army
is my only choice; otherwise to the dump. These things can no longer be
stored in our house! We've decided.
Dee Dee

Golf clubs!
DX7 !!!!

These are treasures!

I'm coming over right now! Where do you live again?

Tom

I forgot to add that the reason I'm taking them to the SA is that I don't
want anyone to know where I live.
Sorry -- :-)))
Dee Dee

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Dee Randall said:

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I see now that bread is one of those things that must be consumed
fresh - eaten the day it is baked, otherwise fed to the birds.

Tom

Tom, I like toast made from bread that is not necessarily fresh.
I make bread and always slice it and put it in the freezer (in plastic
bags)
for toasting; Or just thawing and eating later.

Tom, do you bake bread? Do you/your family eat what you can of a fresh
loaf
one day, and then feed it to the birds?
I buy good bird seed for my birds. They seem to like it.
Happy baking,
Dee Dee

I love to cook, but never have taken the time to develop any baking or
breadmaking skills. I would love to make french style bread.

I do make pizza dough from scratch and am happy with the results so I
guess I'm most of the way there.

I do have a baking stone for my oven.

I get scared off when I read recipies that have multiple rises in
between trips to the refrigerator.

Anyone with a nice recipie for a baguette ?

Tom

Peter Aitken in this ng has a nice baguette recipe on his site. Maybe you
can Ping him for his site and use it for your first. I believe it is
infallible.

I understand the feeling. I get that when I think about sourdough. I don't
want to babysit.
Dee Dee

Ranee Mueller said:

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Tom Yost said:

Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
bread NOT in plastic!

It depends what kind of bread. The baguettes you mention would be
ruined in plastic, but sandwich bread is fine in plastic. I bake my own
bread, so freshness isn't a huge issue here.

Well, admittedly, I use sandwich bread (in a plastic bag) for
sandwiches sometimes.

But the real atrocity was my local supermarket started making
baguettes, but putting them into a plastic bag. I always made it a
point to complain to the bakery person and even sometimes to the
manager but they usually looked at me like I was crazy.

Tom

Tom Yost said:

Many years ago, I had a colleague who was a Swiss native. Whenever he
would see one of us making a sandwich, he would turn up his nose and
comment (with heavy French accent) "Ugh, bread in plastic..."

We all thought he was "funny" in his own quirky way. After all, what
other kind of bread was there? Bread would become stale if it were not
in plastic.

Over the years, after visiting Europe, and with the advent of
supermarkets offering baguettes and "artisan" breads, I've come to
realize, my little Swiss friend was right - plastic ruins bread.

Most bread that people eat these days isn't that great to begin with. It
may be sitting on the shelf for a few days and it needs the plastic to
stay relatively fresh. My local Italian bakery offers the option of paper
or plastic and I prefer the paper.

I have several local bakeries where I can get good white breads, whole
wheat or multi grain. Last night I had some incredible fresh dar rye bread
in a restaurant. I was amazed. I had no idea that rye bread could be so
good. Maybe since we were having a late dinner and I was getting pretty
hungry was the reason that I started imagining how good a sandwich with
cold meats and cheese and tomato would be on that bread.

Dee Randall said:

"Tom Yost" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Dee Randall said:

I guess this is upper-most in my mind today, as we are taking some dear
golf
clubs and 3 bicycles to the Salvation Army. I have an old Yamaha DX7 and
some musical equipment which I don't think they will accept. Salvation
Army
is my only choice; otherwise to the dump. These things can no longer be
stored in our house! We've decided.
Dee Dee

Golf clubs!
DX7 !!!!

These are treasures!

I'm coming over right now! Where do you live again?

Tom

I forgot to add that the reason I'm taking them to the SA is that I don't
want anyone to know where I live.
Sorry -- :-)))
Dee Dee

Oh well, someone will find a nice prize.

A search of ebay sold items shows DX7s fetching $200-400+ Maybe you
could donate it to a school or something? The SA guys will throw it
in a pile with the rest of the [censored].

:-(

Tom

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Quoted message said:

Dee Randall said:

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Quoted message said:

Tom Yost wrote:

Quoted message said:

> Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
> let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
> bread NOT in plastic!
>
>
Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon

> Tom
>

Yikes, too. Sharon, I can never remember such a happenstance. Where was
this and what years? Was it in the city? I'm amazed.
Thanks for 'sharing' this. So interesting to me.
Dee Dee

Not only can I remember bread in waxed paper wrappers, I can remember
when milk came in bottles and was delivered by a horse-drawn cart. The
horse knew the route and used to plod along steadily while the milko
dashed between the cart and the houses.

People a generation older than I can of course remember when the milk
didn't come in bottles, it was in cans and it was ladled into the billy
you left hanging on the gate!

Christine

And now we're just coming into the age where autonomous vehicles will be
a reality. The subject of the latest DARPA challenge is to navigate an
urban setting while obeying traffic law and avoiding obstacles.

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Quoted message said:

Dee Randall said:

"biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Tom Yost wrote:
>

Quoted message said:

>
> Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
> let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
> bread NOT in plastic!
>

Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon
> Tom

Yikes, too. Sharon, I can never remember such a happenstance. Where was
this and what years? Was it in the city? I'm amazed.
Thanks for 'sharing' this. So interesting to me.
Dee Dee

Bread, baked goods and milk were still delivered to the door as
recently?? as 1966. But the wax paper wrappings I remember were from
when I was a kid. In the fifties. Mom would put a sign in the window
so the bread man, the milkman, the ice man, and the cleaners could stop
when needed. (Sheldon...no comment on this please...this was my MOM ...
LOL)
She would put the appropriate sign in. I've always lived in SW Ontrio
Canada. In 1960, bread was about 9 cents a loaf, and I would buy milk
tickets on payday and use them as needed. ......Sharon

Actually one of the few remaining dairy operations that delivers in RI
also delivers bread along with milk, cream, ice cream, etc.

Dee Randall said:

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Dee Randall said:

"Tom Yost" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
>
> I see now that bread is one of those things that must be consumed
> fresh - eaten the day it is baked, otherwise fed to the birds.
>
> Tom
>

Tom, I like toast made from bread that is not necessarily fresh.
I make bread and always slice it and put it in the freezer (in plastic
bags)
for toasting; Or just thawing and eating later.

Tom, do you bake bread? Do you/your family eat what you can of a fresh
loaf
one day, and then feed it to the birds?
I buy good bird seed for my birds. They seem to like it.
Happy baking,
Dee Dee

I love to cook, but never have taken the time to develop any baking or
breadmaking skills. I would love to make french style bread.

I do make pizza dough from scratch and am happy with the results so I
guess I'm most of the way there.

I do have a baking stone for my oven.

I get scared off when I read recipies that have multiple rises in
between trips to the refrigerator.

Anyone with a nice recipie for a baguette ?

Tom

Peter Aitken in this ng has a nice baguette recipe on his site. Maybe you
can Ping him for his site and use it for your first. I believe it is
infallible.

I understand the feeling. I get that when I think about sourdough. I don't
want to babysit.
Dee Dee

I found it , thank you!

Tom

Dee Dee: re plastic bread. I bake most of my breads as I got tired of
trying to find good bread. The [censored] at the "super" markets around here
is laughable. There are a couple of really neat bakeries about 45 miles
from here; I go there about once or twice a month; the town where I live
is really small; for good food, a person in this town either makes their
own bread/pastries/etc. or goes without. Carol

Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we
are here, we may as well dance!

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On Thu, 25 May 2006 14:00:27 -0400, "Dee Randall"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>I guess this is upper-most in my mind today, as we are taking some dear
>golf
>clubs and 3 bicycles to the Salvation Army. I have an old Yamaha DX7
>and
>some musical equipment which I don't think they will accept. Salvation
>Army
>is my only choice; otherwise to the dump. These things can no longer be
>stored in our house! We've decided.
>Dee Dee
>

Golf clubs!
DX7 !!!!

These are treasures!

I'm coming over right now! Where do you live again?

Tom

I forgot to add that the reason I'm taking them to the SA is that I don't
want anyone to know where I live.
Sorry -- :-)))
Dee Dee

Oh well, someone will find a nice prize.

A search of ebay sold items shows DX7s fetching $200-400+ Maybe you
could donate it to a school or something? The SA guys will throw it
in a pile with the rest of the [censored].

:-(

Tom

Yeah, I know they will; they can really be hardnosed about things they know
nothing about; and/or they have their instructions as to what they will
accept. They refused a perfectly good xerox-type copier last time. We
always keep brochures etc. to give them; but no way. We even had a few
extra new cartridges. I gave them a "used once or possibly twice" waffle
maker - box and all. For some reason they didn't want it either.
They take no computers, I can understand that.
Yeah, the DX7 was fun, and the bikes were nice -- a mountain bike of mine
was used just a few times, and all the accoutrements. We checked at a local
Auction and they wouldn't even take it -- I forget what the commision was,
but it was steep.

I've had this stuff in a room that is supposed to 'go' and now the time has
come since the workers will be coming in to install a new heating system and
ducts and add a few outlets in our house in a few weeks. They will be in
the attic and basement. No fun!

No cooking for a while either until it's finished. I'm trying to get most
of the freezer stuff eaten as probably the electricity will be off a lot.
There are no restaurants around that I would eat in for 30 miles, so I hope
the job goes fast.

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Dee Dee: re plastic bread. I bake most of my breads as I got tired of
trying to find good bread. The [censored] at the "super" markets around here
is laughable. There are a couple of really neat bakeries about 45 miles
from here; I go there about once or twice a month; the town where I live
is really small; for good food, a person in this town either makes their
own bread/pastries/etc. or goes without. Carol

Our decent bakeries around here are not close, maybe 70+ miles; Whole
Foods, Wegmans & Trader Joe's. But REAL, I mean REALLY REAL artisan breads
are few and far between.

This afternoon I made a biga (starter) from "No Need to Knead" for a
Ciabatta tomorrow, which turns out differently (but edible) each time.

http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~rosadove/DeeDoveyFamilyPage/breadciabatta.htm

The weather has been warmer, and the time it normally takes for my biga to
rise certainly didn't apply. It was oozing out quite soon and I had to put
it in a larger container.

Tomorrow I will use my new bread machine -- I don't think much of it, but
will not rant here now (it's too small) -- to make a rye for the Kirkland
Carnegie meat sandwiches. It will be better than most store-bought rye.
The last rye I bought was so salty and filled with caraway seeds, I could
hardly taste the rye.

Thanks for your reply. It's always fun to hear about and talk about bread.

Dee Dee

Dee Randall said:

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Dee Randall said:

"biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Tom Yost wrote:
>
>

>> Like the trends that have reversed mediocrity in beer and coffee,
>> let's give a cheer for the increased popularity and availability of
>> bread NOT in plastic!
>>
>>
>>
> Yikes!! I'm old enough to remember when sliced bread came wrapped in
> wax paper and was delivered to the door.....Sharon
>
>
>> Tom
>>
>>
Yikes, too. Sharon, I can never remember such a happenstance. Where was
this and what years? Was it in the city? I'm amazed.
Thanks for 'sharing' this. So interesting to me.
Dee Dee

Not only can I remember bread in waxed paper wrappers, I can remember when
milk came in bottles and was delivered by a horse-drawn cart. The horse
knew the route and used to plod along steadily while the milko dashed
between the cart and the houses.

People a generation older than I can of course remember when the milk
didn't come in bottles, it was in cans and it was ladled into the billy
you left hanging on the gate!

Christine

Christine,
Where and when was this that you remember when milk came by horse-drawn
cart?
I'm so so curious?
Dee Dee

This was suburban Melbourne in the 50s and early 60s. The local dairy
would have stables and a paddock for the horses. The milk used to be
delivered very early in the morning while it was still cool. If you
didn't have a proper box to leave the bottles in there was always the
danger of magpies pecking through the tinfoil cap and drinking the
cream! And of course there were always the milk thieves, who would swipe
a bottle on their way past to work or wherever they were going - this
was regarded with resignation so long as the thief worked his way down
the street and you only lost a bottle once every few months.

The property at the rear of our house used to be a dairy. The old dairy
and stable structure is still there. One of our near neighbours is
actually the granddaughter of the last dairyman.

There aren't any suburban dairies any more, and they phased out glass
bottles about 20 years ago. As for deliveries of anything, ha! Except
that our butcher has started offering free delivery - I suppose it's no
bother since they are out delivering to their commercial customers anyway.

Christine

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Dee Randall said:

You were lucky to have those gifts and relatives. Today kids won't accept
used gifts as often IMO; they want their own new stuff. I know a case where
a freezer was given to a relative and she sold it for so little it made my
head swim.

We would accept those things. 🙂 We've gotten all sorts of useable
and nice things for our home/kids/etc that way.

Regards,
Ranee

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