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  1. After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to 153 lbs.

    Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3 miles a
    day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad, macademia nuts, and egg
    yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158 to 153. Not the most fun "diet" but
    it helped me break my plateau (I was hanging around 160 for several weeks).
    Isn't it amazing, that the more fat you eat compared to carbs, the MORE fat
    you lose?

    In six weeks:

    Weight: 172 lbs to 153 lbs
    Waist: 37.5" to just under 35"

    I'm going to get off the fat-fast on Monday because I really want to
    continue my weight-training.

  2. Actually a plateau is not a plateau unless you have not been able to lose
    weight for at least a month, so you should not call it a plateau. Secondly,
    the fat fast is not healthy, and really should not be done at all, but
    certainly not done for more than one week.

  3. I disagree. I believe my body had a metabolic set point at 160 since I've
    been at that weight for a long time before I went up to another set point,
    170.

    I was at 160 for about 2.5/3 weeks and I consider it a plateau. I don't see
    any problem with the fat-fast. I feel good, I eat lots of salad, and I'm not
    hungry at all. Plus, the weight is coming off. I've lost 5 lbs of fat in 4
    days.

    Success. And healthy. Thank you for your input.

    "Angie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Actually a plateau is not a plateau unless you have not been able to lose
    weight for at least a month, so you should not call it a plateau.
    Secondly, the fat fast is not healthy, and really should not be done at
    all, but certainly not done for more than one week.

  4. And...

    Any change in direction regarding fat to protein makes a huge difference. If
    you cut out some protein you normally eat while on Atkins, and eat more fat,
    the weight will come off faster.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to 153 lbs.

    Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3 miles a
    day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad, macademia nuts, and egg
    yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158 to 153. Not the most fun "diet"
    but it helped me break my plateau (I was hanging around 160 for several
    weeks). Isn't it amazing, that the more fat you eat compared to carbs, the
    MORE fat you lose?

    In six weeks:

    Weight: 172 lbs to 153 lbs
    Waist: 37.5" to just under 35"

    I'm going to get off the fat-fast on Monday because I really want to
    continue my weight-training.

  5. "Angie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Actually a plateau is not a plateau unless you have not been able to lose
    weight for at least a month, so you should not call it a plateau.
    Secondly, the fat fast is not healthy, and really should not be done at
    all, but certainly not done for more than one week.

    There are people who lived on carniverous diets for extended periods of time
    (years) and are healthier than they've ever been...who eat a high percentage
    of fats to avoid too much protein. Reading about their better health is
    fascinating, I'm sure a google search would help you to learn more about it
    🙂.

    --
    Sherry
    364/290/195
    LC since 4/4/05; eating LC but not for weight loss since 4/1/06

  6. [email hidden] wrote:
    :: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to 153
    :: lbs.
    ::
    :: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3
    :: miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad, macademia
    :: nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158 to 153. Not
    :: the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my plateau (I was hanging
    :: around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it amazing, that the more fat
    :: you eat compared to carbs, the MORE fat you lose?

    If you eat enough fat, you won't lose weight.

    ::
    :: In six weeks:
    ::
    :: Weight: 172 lbs to 153 lbs
    :: Waist: 37.5" to just under 35"
    ::
    :: I'm going to get off the fat-fast on Monday because I really want to
    :: continue my weight-training.

  7. [email hidden] wrote:
    :: I disagree. I believe my body had a metabolic set point at 160 since
    :: I've been at that weight for a long time before I went up to another
    :: set point, 170.
    ::
    :: I was at 160 for about 2.5/3 weeks and I consider it a plateau. I
    :: don't see any problem with the fat-fast. I feel good, I eat lots of
    :: salad, and I'm not hungry at all. Plus, the weight is coming off.
    :: I've lost 5 lbs of fat in 4 days.

    How do you know it was just fat that you lost?

    ::
    :: Success. And healthy. Thank you for your input.
    ::
    :: "Angie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :: news:[email hidden]...
    ::: Actually a plateau is not a plateau unless you have not been able
    ::: to lose weight for at least a month, so you should not call it a
    ::: plateau. Secondly, the fat fast is not healthy, and really should
    ::: not be done at all, but certainly not done for more than one week.

  8. [email hidden] wrote:
    :: And...
    ::
    :: Any change in direction regarding fat to protein makes a huge
    :: difference. If you cut out some protein you normally eat while on
    :: Atkins, and eat more fat, the weight will come off faster.

    Well, don't go overboard with this. If Atkins really thought that just
    eating fat was the secret to weight loss, don't you think he would have just
    said "eat only fat?"

    ::
    :: <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :: news:[email hidden]...
    ::: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to
    ::: 153 lbs.
    :::
    ::: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3
    ::: miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad,
    ::: macademia nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158 to
    ::: 153. Not the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my plateau (I
    ::: was hanging around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it amazing, that
    ::: the more fat you eat compared to carbs, the MORE fat you lose?
    :::
    ::: In six weeks:
    :::
    ::: Weight: 172 lbs to 153 lbs
    ::: Waist: 37.5" to just under 35"
    :::
    ::: I'm going to get off the fat-fast on Monday because I really want to
    ::: continue my weight-training.

  9. surely eating fat long-term cannot be healthy... then again once you find
    out what it has done to you, it is too late

  10. Roger Zoul said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    :: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to 153
    :: lbs.
    ::
    :: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3
    :: miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad, macademia
    :: nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158 to 153. Not
    :: the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my plateau (I was hanging
    :: around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it amazing, that the more fat
    :: you eat compared to carbs, the MORE fat you lose?

    If you eat enough fat, you won't lose weight.

    Do you understand what you just did?

    You've just been told that this person ate a very high fat diet for a
    period of time and lost weight. You respond by saying that if they eat
    enough fat they won't lose weight.

    The fact that they succeeded in losing weight by eating a very high fat
    diet for a period of time cannot be negated simply because you will it
    so or because of your opinionated "logic".

    You cannot negate a fact just because you think it ought to be.

    The very fact that they lost weight on a very high fat diet should make
    it clear to you that dietary fat does NOT EQUATE to fat gain simply
    because you think it ought to.

    Time to rethink your beliefs. Fat does not make fat. Carbs do.

    TC

    Quoted message said:


    ::
    :: In six weeks:
    ::
    :: Weight: 172 lbs to 153 lbs
    :: Waist: 37.5" to just under 35"
    ::
    :: I'm going to get off the fat-fast on Monday because I really want to
    :: continue my weight-training.

  11. Easy. Read the Atkins book. If you don't have carbs to burn, you're going to
    lose fat. Even moreso when you restrict your protein. Plus, my waist is
    slimmer.

    "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    :: I disagree. I believe my body had a metabolic set point at 160 since
    :: I've been at that weight for a long time before I went up to another
    :: set point, 170.
    ::
    :: I was at 160 for about 2.5/3 weeks and I consider it a plateau. I
    :: don't see any problem with the fat-fast. I feel good, I eat lots of
    :: salad, and I'm not hungry at all. Plus, the weight is coming off.
    :: I've lost 5 lbs of fat in 4 days.

    How do you know it was just fat that you lost?

    ::
    :: Success. And healthy. Thank you for your input.
    ::
    :: "Angie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :: news:[email hidden]...
    ::: Actually a plateau is not a plateau unless you have not been able
    ::: to lose weight for at least a month, so you should not call it a
    ::: plateau. Secondly, the fat fast is not healthy, and really should
    ::: not be done at all, but certainly not done for more than one week.

  12. Why can't it be healthy? Atkins proves that eating carbs long term is not
    healthy. So, eating fat is not healthy also? Come on.

    "Angie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    surely eating fat long-term cannot be healthy... then again once you find
    out what it has done to you, it is too late

  13. Not necessarily, because if you read the book, you'll see he says this is
    the #1 proven method for fat loss, however, the massive restrictions of the
    diet make it nearly impossible and unsatisfying to follow long term. You can
    alter it easily though, but restricting your protein.

    "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    :: And...
    ::
    :: Any change in direction regarding fat to protein makes a huge
    :: difference. If you cut out some protein you normally eat while on
    :: Atkins, and eat more fat, the weight will come off faster.

    Well, don't go overboard with this. If Atkins really thought that just
    eating fat was the secret to weight loss, don't you think he would have
    just said "eat only fat?"

    ::
    :: <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :: news:[email hidden]...
    ::: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to
    ::: 153 lbs.
    :::
    ::: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3
    ::: miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad,
    ::: macademia nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158 to
    ::: 153. Not the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my plateau (I
    ::: was hanging around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it amazing, that
    ::: the more fat you eat compared to carbs, the MORE fat you lose?
    :::
    ::: In six weeks:
    :::
    ::: Weight: 172 lbs to 153 lbs
    ::: Waist: 37.5" to just under 35"
    :::
    ::: I'm going to get off the fat-fast on Monday because I really want to
    ::: continue my weight-training.

  14. [email hidden] wrote:
    :: Roger Zoul wrote:
    ::: [email hidden] wrote:
    ::::: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to
    ::::: 153 lbs.
    :::::
    ::::: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3
    ::::: miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad,
    ::::: macademia nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158
    ::::: to 153. Not the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my plateau
    ::::: (I was hanging around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it amazing,
    ::::: that the more fat you eat compared to carbs, the MORE fat you
    ::::: lose?
    :::
    ::: If you eat enough fat, you won't lose weight.
    ::
    :: Do you understand what you just did?
    ::
    :: You've just been told that this person ate a very high fat diet for a
    :: period of time and lost weight. You respond by saying that if they
    :: eat enough fat they won't lose weight.

    Which is true.

    ::
    :: The fact that they succeeded in losing weight by eating a very high
    :: fat diet for a period of time cannot be negated simply because you
    :: will it so or because of your opinionated "logic".

    Eating a very high fat diet is not the same thing as eating so much fat as
    to prevent weight loss. You can eat enough fat to prevent weight loss.
    Period. That's all I said. Eating more and more fat will not lead to more
    weight loss.

    ::
    :: You cannot negate a fact just because you think it ought to be.
    ::

    What fact?

    :: The very fact that they lost weight on a very high fat diet should
    :: make it clear to you that dietary fat does NOT EQUATE to fat gain
    :: simply because you think it ought to.

    Are you stupid or what? Eating a high-fat diet isn't the same thing as
    eating enough fat to prevent weight loss.

    ::
    :: Time to rethink your beliefs. Fat does not make fat. Carbs do.

    TC...don't be stupid...if you don't know that I EAT A HIGH-FAT DIET by now,
    you're a complete moron...

    What I was attempted to point out is that you can't just eat MORE FAT and
    expect to keep losing weight. i.e, eating more fat doesn't equate to more
    fat loss, though eating a high-fat diet can, under the appropriate
    circumstances. Of course, I don't expect you to believe that since you
    think thta only carbs make people fat.

    More of your "the world according to TC" logic.

  15. Why?

    In news:[email hidden],
    Angie <[email hidden]> stated
    | surely eating fat long-term cannot be healthy... then again once you
    | find out what it has done to you, it is too late

  16. I'm talking artery clogging fat... beef, bacon, fatty FAT foods.

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Roger Zoul said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    :: And...
    ::
    :: Any change in direction regarding fat to protein makes a huge
    :: difference. If you cut out some protein you normally eat while on
    :: Atkins, and eat more fat, the weight will come off faster.

    Well, don't go overboard with this. If Atkins really thought that just
    eating fat was the secret to weight loss, don't you think he would have just
    said "eat only fat?"

    IIRC Atkins recommended the fat fast go no longer than a week due to the
    shortage of essential amino acids.
    --
    Peace!
    Om

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
    -- Jack Nicholson

  18. Exactly. Buying the Atkins book has helped me tremendously. Well, actually,
    reading it has. Once you understand that your body burns carbs before fat,
    you're 90% there. There's a section in the book for people having a hard
    time losing weight even on the suggested Atkins diet/people on a plateau. I
    read it, and it made sense. If I'm restricting my carb intake and also lower
    my protein by eating 75-90% carbs, the body has no choice but to burn the
    fat.

    So, the mad scientist that I am, I decided to try the fat-fast for the
    recommended 5 days before going back to induction level carbs. I had solid
    weight loss on induction, around 2 lbs a week after 3 weeks of hovering
    around 162, but I wanted to try it anyway.

    And what can I say, i'm amazed. 1,000 calories a day, 75% to 90% of which is
    fat. In two days I went from 158 to 155. 2 days later I'm at 153. My waist
    is down nearly an inch. For some reason I'm not very hungry at all. Even on
    my Atkins induction diet, I was only eating 1200-1500 calories a day.

    Simply put, the fat-fast works and it's true that while eating more
    substantially more fat, you will lose weight, primarily fat. I'm not going
    to stay on it after today, because 5 days is enough, I'm happy with my
    regular weight loss on induction, and I want to resume weight-training. The
    diet is not that enjoyable either, but then again Atkins advises to only do
    the fat-fast for 4-5 days tops.

    FYI, I was on a 1200 calorie diet before I tried Atkins again. I ate 1 or 2
    baked potatoes a day as well as other foods but kept my calories down to
    1200. In two weeks I went from 172 to 172. :-)
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Roger Zoul said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    :: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to 153
    :: lbs.
    ::
    :: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3
    :: miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad, macademia
    :: nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158 to 153. Not
    :: the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my plateau (I was hanging
    :: around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it amazing, that the more fat
    :: you eat compared to carbs, the MORE fat you lose?

    If you eat enough fat, you won't lose weight.

    Do you understand what you just did?

    You've just been told that this person ate a very high fat diet for a
    period of time and lost weight. You respond by saying that if they eat
    enough fat they won't lose weight.

    The fact that they succeeded in losing weight by eating a very high fat
    diet for a period of time cannot be negated simply because you will it
    so or because of your opinionated "logic".

    You cannot negate a fact just because you think it ought to be.

    The very fact that they lost weight on a very high fat diet should make
    it clear to you that dietary fat does NOT EQUATE to fat gain simply
    because you think it ought to.

    Time to rethink your beliefs. Fat does not make fat. Carbs do.

    TC

    Quoted message said:


    ::
    :: In six weeks:
    ::
    :: Weight: 172 lbs to 153 lbs
    :: Waist: 37.5" to just under 35"
    ::
    :: I'm going to get off the fat-fast on Monday because I really want to
    :: continue my weight-training.


  19. What are you talking about? Beef and nitrate free bacon are the best things
    for your body. Have you read the book?

    "Angie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm talking artery clogging fat... beef, bacon, fatty FAT foods.

  20. Exactly. And the fact you never really have a meal of any sort, unless you
    count 2 oz of cream cheese as a meal. :-) Or 12 macadamia nuts.

    Just a suggestion for those that want to test it for themselves. Do it for 4
    days, then post back.

    Really though, the Atkins diet is outstanding. Why the media and people are
    blind to the fact, I'll never know. 172 to 153 in six weeks and healhier
    than ever, never hungry and eating foods I love like steak every day. Ribs!
    Grilled chicken! Salad! All while cutting my soda habit and never even white
    bread or white rice again. Gotta love it.

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Roger Zoul said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    :: And...
    ::
    :: Any change in direction regarding fat to protein makes a huge
    :: difference. If you cut out some protein you normally eat while on
    :: Atkins, and eat more fat, the weight will come off faster.

    Well, don't go overboard with this. If Atkins really thought that just
    eating fat was the secret to weight loss, don't you think he would have
    just
    said "eat only fat?"

    IIRC Atkins recommended the fat fast go no longer than a week due to the
    shortage of essential amino acids.
    --
    Peace!
    Om

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
    -- Jack Nicholson

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