Fat-Fast

In article <[email hidden]>,

FOB said:

In news:[email hidden],
Angie <[email hidden]> stated
| surely eating fat long-term cannot be healthy... then again once you
| find out what it has done to you, it is too late

Why?

Lack of essential amino acids...
While a fat fast will accelerate fat burn, you are also going to lose
some muscle.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article said:

Why can't it be healthy? Atkins proves that eating carbs long term is not
healthy. So, eating fat is not healthy also? Come on.

Balance is the key...
I'd suggest you do some research.

There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. You CAN live
without them. Totally.

Try living on pure fat long enough and you will die. The body needs
essential fatty acids and essential amino acids (from protein) to
survive.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

Angie said:

I'm talking artery clogging fat... beef, bacon, fatty FAT foods.

Oh Angie...

You know well and good that fat is not evil!

Sugar, that raises your tryglycerides out the roof, is what clogs
arteries! Even my endocrinologist knows this.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article said:

Exactly. And the fact you never really have a meal of any sort, unless you
count 2 oz of cream cheese as a meal. :-) Or 12 macadamia nuts.

Just a suggestion for those that want to test it for themselves. Do it for 4
days, then post back.

Really though, the Atkins diet is outstanding. Why the media and people are
blind to the fact, I'll never know. 172 to 153 in six weeks and healhier
than ever, never hungry and eating foods I love like steak every day. Ribs!
Grilled chicken! Salad! All while cutting my soda habit and never even white
bread or white rice again. Gotta love it.

Agreed. ;-)

I have used fat fasting for up to 5 days to break sticking points, but
it's a [censored] to stay on as I'm hungry all the damned time. :-P
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

I suggest you read my posts completely.

I never said I was going to eat nothing but fat for the rest of my life. I
said it was 4-5 days, what Dr Atkins suggested.

If balance means avoiding large amount of carbs while eating generous
amounts of protein and fat, I agree with you.
"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article said:

Why can't it be healthy? Atkins proves that eating carbs long term is not
healthy. So, eating fat is not healthy also? Come on.

Balance is the key...
I'd suggest you do some research.

There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. You CAN live
without them. Totally.

Try living on pure fat long enough and you will die. The body needs
essential fatty acids and essential amino acids (from protein) to
survive.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

I think it would be impossible to eat enough fat to stop weight loss. You'd
probably throw up by then or not be hungry at all. Someone should go on a
2,000 calorie, 90% fat diet and see what happens. However, I agree with the
previous poster... carbs make you fat due to insulin. Fat does not make you
fat.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

[email hidden] wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: [email hidden] wrote:
::::: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to
::::: 153 lbs.
:::::
::::: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3
::::: miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad,
::::: macademia nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158
::::: to 153. Not the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my plateau
::::: (I was hanging around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it amazing,
::::: that the more fat you eat compared to carbs, the MORE fat you
::::: lose?
:::
::: If you eat enough fat, you won't lose weight.
::
:: Do you understand what you just did?
::
:: You've just been told that this person ate a very high fat diet for a
:: period of time and lost weight. You respond by saying that if they
:: eat enough fat they won't lose weight.

Which is true.

::
:: The fact that they succeeded in losing weight by eating a very high
:: fat diet for a period of time cannot be negated simply because you
:: will it so or because of your opinionated "logic".

Eating a very high fat diet is not the same thing as eating so much fat as
to prevent weight loss. You can eat enough fat to prevent weight loss.
Period. That's all I said. Eating more and more fat will not lead to
more weight loss.

::
:: You cannot negate a fact just because you think it ought to be.
::

What fact?

:: The very fact that they lost weight on a very high fat diet should
:: make it clear to you that dietary fat does NOT EQUATE to fat gain
:: simply because you think it ought to.

Are you stupid or what? Eating a high-fat diet isn't the same thing as
eating enough fat to prevent weight loss.

::
:: Time to rethink your beliefs. Fat does not make fat. Carbs do.

TC...don't be stupid...if you don't know that I EAT A HIGH-FAT DIET by
now, you're a complete moron...

What I was attempted to point out is that you can't just eat MORE FAT and
expect to keep losing weight. i.e, eating more fat doesn't equate to more
fat loss, though eating a high-fat diet can, under the appropriate
circumstances. Of course, I don't expect you to believe that since you
think thta only carbs make people fat.

More of your "the world according to TC" logic.

<[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Someone should go on a 2,000 calorie, 90% fat diet and see what happens.

Can you mock up a quick daily menu based on that, and I'll try it.

She didn't say eating only fat.

In news:[email hidden],
OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> stated
| In article <[email hidden]>,
| "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote:
|
|
|| In news:[email hidden],
|| Angie <[email hidden]> stated
||| surely eating fat long-term cannot be healthy... then again once
||| you find out what it has done to you, it is too late
||
|| Why?
||
|
| Lack of essential amino acids...
| While a fat fast will accelerate fat burn, you are also going to lose
| some muscle.

[email hidden] wrote:
:: I think it would be impossible to eat enough fat to stop weight
:: loss. You'd probably throw up by then or not be hungry at all.
:: Someone should go on a 2,000 calorie, 90% fat diet and see what
:: happens. However, I agree with the previous poster... carbs make you
:: fat due to insulin. Fat does not make you fat.

Not true. There is still insulin....hence, eating too much will make you
fat. No, fat doesn't make you fat, and neither do carbs. But eating too
much will.

And one can eat too much fat....

::
:: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: news:[email hidden]...
::: [email hidden] wrote:
::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::::: [email hidden] wrote:
:::::::: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172
:::::::: to 153 lbs.
::::::::
:::::::: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking
:::::::: 3 miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad,
:::::::: macademia nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from
:::::::: 158 to 153. Not the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my
:::::::: plateau (I was hanging around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it
:::::::: amazing, that the more fat you eat compared to carbs, the MORE
:::::::: fat you lose?
::::::
:::::: If you eat enough fat, you won't lose weight.
:::::
::::: Do you understand what you just did?
:::::
::::: You've just been told that this person ate a very high fat diet
::::: for a period of time and lost weight. You respond by saying that
::::: if they eat enough fat they won't lose weight.
:::
::: Which is true.
:::
:::::
::::: The fact that they succeeded in losing weight by eating a very
::::: high fat diet for a period of time cannot be negated simply
::::: because you will it so or because of your opinionated "logic".
:::
::: Eating a very high fat diet is not the same thing as eating so much
::: fat as to prevent weight loss. You can eat enough fat to prevent
::: weight loss. Period. That's all I said. Eating more and more fat
::: will not lead to more weight loss.
:::
:::::
::::: You cannot negate a fact just because you think it ought to be.
:::::
:::
::: What fact?
:::
::::: The very fact that they lost weight on a very high fat diet should
::::: make it clear to you that dietary fat does NOT EQUATE to fat gain
::::: simply because you think it ought to.
:::
::: Are you stupid or what? Eating a high-fat diet isn't the same thing
::: as eating enough fat to prevent weight loss.
:::
:::::
::::: Time to rethink your beliefs. Fat does not make fat. Carbs do.
:::
::: TC...don't be stupid...if you don't know that I EAT A HIGH-FAT DIET
::: by now, you're a complete moron...
:::
::: What I was attempted to point out is that you can't just eat MORE
::: FAT and expect to keep losing weight. i.e, eating more fat doesn't
::: equate to more fat loss, though eating a high-fat diet can, under
::: the appropriate circumstances. Of course, I don't expect you to
::: believe that since you think thta only carbs make people fat.
:::
::: More of your "the world according to TC" logic.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Roger Zoul said:

[email hidden] wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: [email hidden] wrote:
::::: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to
::::: 153 lbs.
:::::
::::: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3
::::: miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad,
::::: macademia nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158
::::: to 153. Not the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my plateau
::::: (I was hanging around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it amazing,
::::: that the more fat you eat compared to carbs, the MORE fat you
::::: lose?
:::
::: If you eat enough fat, you won't lose weight.
::
:: Do you understand what you just did?
::
:: You've just been told that this person ate a very high fat diet for a
:: period of time and lost weight. You respond by saying that if they
:: eat enough fat they won't lose weight.

Which is true.

::
:: The fact that they succeeded in losing weight by eating a very high
:: fat diet for a period of time cannot be negated simply because you
:: will it so or because of your opinionated "logic".

Eating a very high fat diet is not the same thing as eating so much fat as
to prevent weight loss. You can eat enough fat to prevent weight loss.
Period. That's all I said. Eating more and more fat will not lead to more
weight loss.

::
:: You cannot negate a fact just because you think it ought to be.
::

What fact?

:: The very fact that they lost weight on a very high fat diet should
:: make it clear to you that dietary fat does NOT EQUATE to fat gain
:: simply because you think it ought to.

Are you stupid or what? Eating a high-fat diet isn't the same thing as
eating enough fat to prevent weight loss.

::
:: Time to rethink your beliefs. Fat does not make fat. Carbs do.

TC...don't be stupid...if you don't know that I EAT A HIGH-FAT DIET by now,
you're a complete moron...

What I was attempted to point out is that you can't just eat MORE FAT and
expect to keep losing weight. i.e, eating more fat doesn't equate to more
fat loss, though eating a high-fat diet can, under the appropriate
circumstances. Of course, I don't expect you to believe that since you
think thta only carbs make people fat.

More of your "the world according to TC" logic.

No matter WHAT diet plan you are following, calories still count.....

Atkins fat fast is set at 1,000 kc.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

Well, those foods are not just fat. Macadamia nuts are 89% fat, 3% carbs (2
of those are fiber), and 4% protein. Cream cheese is 88% fat, 3% carbs (no
fiber) and 9% protein. So, although it is a fat fast, it is not completely
fat. So everyone who is discussing whether it is okay to eat nothing but
fat longterm is not talking about eating this type of food. They must be
discussing the olive oil drinkers diet. If you eat 2000 calories worth of
cream cheese you will get 15 g carb and 43 g protein along with the fat,
2000 calories of macadamia nuts gives 13 net carbs, 26 fiber, and 20
protein.

The fat fast is also very low calorie.

In news:[email hidden],
[email hidden] <[email hidden]> stated
| Exactly. And the fact you never really have a meal of any sort,
| unless you count 2 oz of cream cheese as a meal. :-) Or 12 macadamia
| nuts.
|
| Just a suggestion for those that want to test it for themselves. Do
| it for 4 days, then post back.
|
| Really though, the Atkins diet is outstanding. Why the media and
| people are blind to the fact, I'll never know. 172 to 153 in six
| weeks and healhier than ever, never hungry and eating foods I love
| like steak every day. Ribs! Grilled chicken! Salad! All while cutting
| my soda habit and never even white bread or white rice again. Gotta
| love it.
|
| "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| news:[email hidden]...
|| In article <[email hidden]>,
|| "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
||
||| [email hidden] wrote:
||||| And...
|||||
||||| Any change in direction regarding fat to protein makes a huge
||||| difference. If you cut out some protein you normally eat while on
||||| Atkins, and eat more fat, the weight will come off faster.
|||
||| Well, don't go overboard with this. If Atkins really thought that
||| just eating fat was the secret to weight loss, don't you think he
||| would have just
||| said "eat only fat?"
||
|| IIRC Atkins recommended the fat fast go no longer than a week due to
|| the shortage of essential amino acids.
|| --
|| Peace!
|| Om
||
|| "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
|| -- Jack Nicholson

[email hidden] wrote:
:: Exactly. Buying the Atkins book has helped me tremendously. Well,
:: actually, reading it has. Once you understand that your body burns
:: carbs before fat, you're 90% there. There's a section in the book
:: for people having a hard time losing weight even on the suggested
:: Atkins diet/people on a plateau. I read it, and it made sense. If
:: I'm restricting my carb intake and also lower my protein by eating
:: 75-90% carbs, the body has no choice but to burn the fat.

What?

::
:: So, the mad scientist that I am, I decided to try the fat-fast for
:: the recommended 5 days before going back to induction level carbs. I
:: had solid weight loss on induction, around 2 lbs a week after 3
:: weeks of hovering around 162, but I wanted to try it anyway.
::
:: And what can I say, i'm amazed. 1,000 calories a day, 75% to 90% of
:: which is fat. In two days I went from 158 to 155. 2 days later I'm
:: at 153. My waist is down nearly an inch. For some reason I'm not
:: very hungry at all. Even on my Atkins induction diet, I was only
:: eating 1200-1500 calories a day.

???

so, you switched to 1000 kcals/ day of almost all fat...and you lost weight.
But prior you were eating more kcals.

For all you know, you had lost some of that weight prior to starting the fat
fast....sometimes weight loss happens after you would have expected it.
This proves nothing.

::
:: Simply put, the fat-fast works and it's true that while eating more
:: substantially more fat, you will lose weight, primarily fat.

Geuses, you're so unthinking it's funny. You only ate 1000 kcal / day for 5
days. There's no magic there. You simply eat a greater precentage of fat
than anything else. But if you really believe that you can eat unlimited
amounts of fat and lose weight, when don't you just up your calories to
about 4000 / day and see what happens. If you do that, since you're eating
more fat, you should lose more weight, right?

I'm not
:: going to stay on it after today, because 5 days is enough, I'm happy
:: with my regular weight loss on induction, and I want to resume
:: weight-training. The diet is not that enjoyable either, but then
:: again Atkins advises to only do the fat-fast for 4-5 days tops.
::
:: FYI, I was on a 1200 calorie diet before I tried Atkins again. I ate
:: 1 or 2 baked potatoes a day as well as other foods but kept my
:: calories down to 1200. In two weeks I went from 172 to 172. :-)
:: <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: news:[email hidden]...
:::
::: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::: [email hidden] wrote:
:::::: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to
:::::: 153 lbs.
::::::
:::::: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3
:::::: miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad,
:::::: macademia nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158
:::::: to 153. Not the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my
:::::: plateau (I was hanging around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it
:::::: amazing, that the more fat you eat compared to carbs, the MORE
:::::: fat you lose?
::::
:::: If you eat enough fat, you won't lose weight.
:::
::: Do you understand what you just did?
:::
::: You've just been told that this person ate a very high fat diet for
::: a period of time and lost weight. You respond by saying that if
::: they eat enough fat they won't lose weight.
:::
::: The fact that they succeeded in losing weight by eating a very high
::: fat diet for a period of time cannot be negated simply because you
::: will it so or because of your opinionated "logic".
:::
::: You cannot negate a fact just because you think it ought to be.
:::
::: The very fact that they lost weight on a very high fat diet should
::: make it clear to you that dietary fat does NOT EQUATE to fat gain
::: simply because you think it ought to.
:::
::: Time to rethink your beliefs. Fat does not make fat. Carbs do.
:::
::: TC
:::
::::
::::::
:::::: In six weeks:
::::::
:::::: Weight: 172 lbs to 153 lbs
:::::: Waist: 37.5" to just under 35"
::::::
:::::: I'm going to get off the fat-fast on Monday because I really
:::::: want to continue my weight-training.

Quoted message said:

<[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Someone should go on a 2,000 calorie, 90% fat diet and see what happens.

Can you mock up a quick daily menu based on that, and I'll try it.

I'm serious. Someone post an example of a daily menu that is 2,000 calories
and 90% fat and I will try it and report back the results.

[email hidden] wrote:
:: Why can't it be healthy? Atkins proves that eating carbs long term
:: is not healthy. So, eating fat is not healthy also? Come on.

The fat-fast isn't healthy in the long term...you're body needs more protein
than that...also, it needs more calories, etc. to get proper nutrients.

The statement below "surely eating fat long-term cannot be healthy" is
obviously untrue and doesn't even make sense.

::
:: "Angie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: news:[email hidden]...
::: surely eating fat long-term cannot be healthy... then again once
::: you find out what it has done to you, it is too late

Angie wrote:
:: I'm talking artery clogging fat... beef, bacon, fatty FAT foods.

These foods aren't artery clogging...

[email hidden] wrote:
:: I suggest you read my posts completely.

You really should read what you wrote because you're not very precise.

::
:: I never said I was going to eat nothing but fat for the rest of my
:: life. I said it was 4-5 days, what Dr Atkins suggested.
::
:: If balance means avoiding large amount of carbs while eating generous
:: amounts of protein and fat, I agree with you.
:: "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: news:[email hidden]...
::: In article <[email hidden]>, <[email hidden]>
::: wrote:
:::
:::: Why can't it be healthy? Atkins proves that eating carbs long term
:::: is not healthy. So, eating fat is not healthy also? Come on.
::::
:::
::: Balance is the key...
::: I'd suggest you do some research.
:::
::: There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. You CAN live
::: without them. Totally.
:::
::: Try living on pure fat long enough and you will die. The body needs
::: essential fatty acids and essential amino acids (from protein) to
::: survive.
::: --
::: Peace!
::: Om
:::
::: "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
::: -- Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
:: In article <[email hidden]>,
:: "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::
::: In news:[email hidden],
::: Angie <[email hidden]> stated
:::: surely eating fat long-term cannot be healthy... then again once
:::: you find out what it has done to you, it is too late
:::
::: Why?
:::
::
:: Lack of essential amino acids...
:: While a fat fast will accelerate fat burn, you are also going to lose
:: some muscle.

IMO, it makes no sense to respond to someone who can't say what they
mean....if you have to assume what they mean all the time, then you just end
up talking past each other. Even the OP wasn't talking about doing the fat
fast long term....

:: --
:: Peace!
:: Om
::
:: "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
:: -- Jack Nicholson

[email hidden] wrote:
:: Easy. Read the Atkins book. If you don't have carbs to burn, you're
:: going to lose fat. Even moreso when you restrict your protein. Plus,
:: my waist is slimmer.

You're not thinking this true and you don't understand much about weight
loss. You don't even get the point of my question.

Oh, I've read the damn book.

Now, grasshopper....when you weight 155ish..and you eat 1000 kcals / day for
5 days, do you think all you'll lose is fat? Do you really think all the
weight you *think* you lost is fat?

::
:: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: news:[email hidden]...
::: [email hidden] wrote:
::::: I disagree. I believe my body had a metabolic set point at 160
::::: since I've been at that weight for a long time before I went up
::::: to another set point, 170.
:::::
::::: I was at 160 for about 2.5/3 weeks and I consider it a plateau. I
::::: don't see any problem with the fat-fast. I feel good, I eat lots
::::: of salad, and I'm not hungry at all. Plus, the weight is coming
::::: off. I've lost 5 lbs of fat in 4 days.
:::
::: How do you know it was just fat that you lost?
:::
:::::
::::: Success. And healthy. Thank you for your input.
:::::
::::: "Angie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
::::: news:[email hidden]...
:::::: Actually a plateau is not a plateau unless you have not been able
:::::: to lose weight for at least a month, so you should not call it a
:::::: plateau. Secondly, the fat fast is not healthy, and really should
:::::: not be done at all, but certainly not done for more than one
:::::: week.

You are on the right track. Don't let the people who fail at dieting stop
you.

<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I disagree. I believe my body had a metabolic set point at 160 since I've
been at that weight for a long time before I went up to another set point,
170.

I was at 160 for about 2.5/3 weeks and I consider it a plateau. I don't

see

Quoted message said:

any problem with the fat-fast. I feel good, I eat lots of salad, and I'm

not

Quoted message said:

hungry at all. Plus, the weight is coming off. I've lost 5 lbs of fat in 4
days.

Success. And healthy. Thank you for your input.

"Angie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Actually a plateau is not a plateau unless you have not been able to

lose

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight for at least a month, so you should not call it a plateau.
Secondly, the fat fast is not healthy, and really should not be done at
all, but certainly not done for more than one week.

Calories don't count if you're doing a high carb, low fat diet. I ate only
1200 calories a day in baked potatoes and other "good food" and couldn't
lose a pound in two weeks. Once I cut the carbs, the weight plowed off me.
All calories are not equal.

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Roger Zoul said:

[email hidden] wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: [email hidden] wrote:
::::: After 6 weeks on Atkins (induction levels) I've gone from 172 to
::::: 153 lbs.
:::::
::::: Since Thursday I've been doing the fat-fast as well as walking 3
::::: miles a day. Basically I have 2 oz of cream cheese, salad,
::::: macademia nuts, and egg yolks. Since Thursday I've gone from 158
::::: to 153. Not the most fun "diet" but it helped me break my plateau
::::: (I was hanging around 160 for several weeks). Isn't it amazing,
::::: that the more fat you eat compared to carbs, the MORE fat you
::::: lose?
:::
::: If you eat enough fat, you won't lose weight.
::
:: Do you understand what you just did?
::
:: You've just been told that this person ate a very high fat diet for a
:: period of time and lost weight. You respond by saying that if they
:: eat enough fat they won't lose weight.

Which is true.

::
:: The fact that they succeeded in losing weight by eating a very high
:: fat diet for a period of time cannot be negated simply because you
:: will it so or because of your opinionated "logic".

Eating a very high fat diet is not the same thing as eating so much fat
as
to prevent weight loss. You can eat enough fat to prevent weight loss.
Period. That's all I said. Eating more and more fat will not lead to
more
weight loss.

::
:: You cannot negate a fact just because you think it ought to be.
::

What fact?

:: The very fact that they lost weight on a very high fat diet should
:: make it clear to you that dietary fat does NOT EQUATE to fat gain
:: simply because you think it ought to.

Are you stupid or what? Eating a high-fat diet isn't the same thing as
eating enough fat to prevent weight loss.

::
:: Time to rethink your beliefs. Fat does not make fat. Carbs do.

TC...don't be stupid...if you don't know that I EAT A HIGH-FAT DIET by
now,
you're a complete moron...

What I was attempted to point out is that you can't just eat MORE FAT and
expect to keep losing weight. i.e, eating more fat doesn't equate to
more
fat loss, though eating a high-fat diet can, under the appropriate
circumstances. Of course, I don't expect you to believe that since you
think thta only carbs make people fat.

More of your "the world according to TC" logic.

No matter WHAT diet plan you are following, calories still count.....

Atkins fat fast is set at 1,000 kc.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson