Is impatience my only problem?

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Any suggestions?

What is your exercise program?

What do you weigh? If you're female, I'm guessing 170 to 210 or so. That's
important.

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In 2004 I lost 40 pounds and maintained (gained back 5). I lost the
first 40 with very little effort or mystery. IOW, I didn't have to
watch my calories.

Now that I want to lose 50 more pounds, it's totally different. After a
two-week induction, I'd lost only 6 pounds.

Were you being careful with carbs before resuming?

I drank one evening during

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induction (three 6oz glasses). Otherwise, I followed Atkins induction
to a T. Fitday and everything. During those two weeks my calories
ranged from about 1200 to about 1800, and my fat intake was around
60-70%.

During induction, I walked for 30 minutes at 3.5 mph on a treadmill.
Since induction ended two weeks ago, I've gradually resumed running on
the treadmill, sometimes to the point of soreness.

Don't do this....never run to the point of being sore. If you get hurt,
that's the end of exercise...

I'm also doing light

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weightlifting with free weights, and situps.

Good, though situps aren't necessarily going to help with much.

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I have lost exactly one pound in the two weeks since induction. The
only things I've added back into my WOE are 1) more wine and spirits
(about 12oz three times per week)

Geez...kill this first....

and 2) a tablespoon of salsa with my

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eggs in the morning or a little more cream for a snack (which I mix
with cocoa powder and Splenda). About two days per week, I eat either
no lunch or no breakfast (ie., I eat only one or the other) b/c of my
schedule.

I admit I stopped using Fitday after induction, and I resumed this
morning after becoming so annoyed.

Good.

A typical day of food looks like

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this:

breakfast is
32oz coffee
4 tsp heavy cream

Drop it to two...you're trying to lose weight, remember.

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2 tsp Splenda
AND EITHER:

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2 scrambled eggs
1 tbs butter

Use a nonstick skillet and use less butter.

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3 oz Bob Evans sausage
1 tbs Pace salsa (no sugar)
1 tbs sour cream

Cut the sour cream. Remember, you're trying to lose weight.

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OR
2 eggs worth of egg salad, made with canola mayo and salt and pepper
3 oz Bob Evans sausage

How much is 3 oz?

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lunch
no lunch
OR
2 oz cheddar
OR
2-3oz processed turkey
2 oz cheddar
1 tbs canola mayo
OR
med chicken breast
1 tbs butter
1 tbs olive oil
1-2 cups mixed greens
3 tbs Paul Newman olive oil & vinegar dressing

dinner
6-8oz some cut of meat (steak, chicken, pork)
2 cups butter lettuce or salad greens or green beans or broccoli
sprinkle of pine nuts
1 tbs blue cheese crumbles
3 tbs Paul Newman olive oil & vinegar dressing
6 oz wine

Cut the wine.

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occasional dessert (3-4 nights per week)
2-3 oz heavy cream
1 tsp dutch process cocoa powder
1 tsp Splenda

Save the dessert for days when you do extra cardio (> 45 mintues)

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My alcohol intake can't be my only problem, can it? Am I eating enough
fat? Am I eating hidden carbs? Am I perhaps not eating enough carbs?
Hunger is generally not a problem with this combo of foods/caloric
intake. Now that I've said that, I guess I'm probably eating too many
calories. Ho hum.

Bingo!

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Any suggestions?

See above. Cut the booze first...ease back on the creams...drink coffee
black sometimes...don't use so much butter (enough to cook with) and hold
the mayo somethings. Play [censored] for tat with things. Up the exercise.

Remember, you're trying to lose weight..More important, hang tight.

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Thanks,
Cate

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About two days per week, I eat either
no lunch or no breakfast (ie., I eat only one or the other) b/c of my
schedule.

Don't skip meals, it's better to have something fast like cheese or a couple
slices of turkey than to skip a meal.
East 5 constant small meals and keep the metabolism burning like furnace!

Dump the spirits if your really serious about weight loss.

--
LC again since 1/14/06
277/261/220

I agree with everyone else, dump the spirits. They are most likely one
of those YMMV things meaning that there is a limit to which you can
consume and still loose weight, but the line between that and a stall
may be fine.

If you cut them out and your weight loss resumes, you will at least
know if this is the cause or not.

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Is impatience my only problem?

There are certain questions where the fact that question was
asked at all gives the answer. This is one of those questions.

The answer is yes.

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After a
two-week induction, I'd lost only 6 pounds.

Why is the incorrect word "only" in there? Since the ideal loss
rate for keeping it off is 4 per month, and that loss was a month
and a half's worth in half a month you're three times the ideal
rate for that time period. "Only" is a crock at that point. And
sure enough impatience is a great explanation for using the
word "only" to describe three times the ideal loss rate. "Only
three times the ideal."

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During induction, I walked for 30 minutes at 3.5 mph on a treadmill.
Since induction ended two weeks ago, I've gradually resumed running on
the treadmill, sometimes to the point of soreness. I'm also doing light
weightlifting with free weights, and situps.

You're aware that a new exercise program triggers temporary
water retnetion, right? So who knows how much fat loss has
been masked by water that will go away over the next several
weeks.

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I have lost exactly one pound in the two weeks since induction.

Few people lose an ounce in week 3 of Atkins. Plenty don't
lose in week 4 of Atkins. There's a lot more variation on
restarts, but there you are losing while many or most don't.
Yet you're including this amazing victory in a post about a
problem. Impatience alright.

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breakfast is
32oz coffee

1.5 gm. I get the 20 oz Americano.

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4 tsp heavy cream

2.0 gm

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2 tsp Splenda

1 gm

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AND EITHER:
2 scrambled eggs

1.2 gm

Your food generally looks fine so I cut the rest. I only
left in some bits where many forget to problem of stuff
getting rounded down to zero from 0.4 or 0.5

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occasional dessert (3-4 nights per week)

Words have to mean something. Occasional doesn't mean
every other day. I don't know if occasional means most weeks
or most months, but there's no way every other day counts
as occasional.

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2-3 oz heavy cream
1 tsp dutch process cocoa powder
1 tsp Splenda

Then again it's a fine dessert. It brings your total intake of
sweet packets a bit high. Try tapering them off over a period
of months. You'll fine that coffee and such work great
without if you allow your tastes to adjust across months.

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My alcohol intake can't be my only problem, can it?

Nah. You've now lost twice the ideal amount for a month.
Your one and onyl problem is impatience.

Cutting down on the booze can't hurt, but it's definitely not
interfering with your lose while you're dropping at twice the
ideal rate to keep it off.

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Any suggestions?

Start out with a huge smile and a happy dance. You're doing
great. *Never* discount your own real actual success by
comparing it against anything else, but most especially never
compare it against what we all desire in our results. Reality
must trump imagined unrealistic impatient desires. And you've
got real unimagined success up one side and down the next.

Roger Zoul wrote:

<snip>

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During induction, I walked for 30 minutes at 3.5 mph on a treadmill.
Since induction ended two weeks ago, I've gradually resumed running on
the treadmill, sometimes to the point of soreness.

Don't do this....never run to the point of being sore. If you get hurt,
that's the end of exercise...

<snip>

I would say soreness is not a bad thing at all, as long as it's
short-lived. Pain from injury (like muscle pulls, strains, etc) are
different than muscle soreness from lactic acidosis, which is a sign of
anaerobic muscle activity. At least this is the way I understand it.

The OP's problem made me think about my own weight loss, which was
very rapid and somewhat effortless (although I note I'm still hovering
within 5-10 pounds of goal....). While there's no doubt it was the
low-carb diet that did it, I think I would simply *not* have lost any
weight had I not been doing the high-intensity aerobic excercise that
is part of my regular routine.... my advice to the OP is up the
exercise, and no pain no gain (and also cut calories if need be)!!!

260/205/200
4/27/06

Ernst Primer wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::
:: <snip>
::
:::: During induction, I walked for 30 minutes at 3.5 mph on a
:::: treadmill. Since induction ended two weeks ago, I've gradually
:::: resumed running on the treadmill, sometimes to the point of
:::: soreness.
:::
::: Don't do this....never run to the point of being sore. If you get
::: hurt, that's the end of exercise...
:::
::
:: <snip>
::
:: I would say soreness is not a bad thing at all, as long as it's
:: short-lived. Pain from injury (like muscle pulls, strains, etc) are
:: different than muscle soreness from lactic acidosis, which is a sign
:: of anaerobic muscle activity. At least this is the way I understand
:: it.
::
:: The OP's problem made me think about my own weight loss, which was
:: very rapid and somewhat effortless (although I note I'm still
:: hovering within 5-10 pounds of goal....). While there's no doubt it
:: was the low-carb diet that did it, I think I would simply *not* have
:: lost any weight had I not been doing the high-intensity aerobic
:: excercise that is part of my regular routine.... my advice to the OP
:: is up the exercise, and no pain no gain (and also cut calories if
:: need be)!!!

Exercise on a trendmill for someone who is at least 60 lbs over weight can
lead to big problems when overdone. There is nothing wrong with
high-intensity exercise per se, but high-impact motion can lead to injuries,
especially so for the overweight . And those injuries happen before you even
realize it. And once you get hurt, exercise program over.

If you want to up the exercise, switch to stationary cycling. You can do a
nice HIIT routine and get the heart rate really up there, which will help
with fat loss and not put one in danger of getting hurt.

Ernst Primer said:

Roger Zoul wrote:

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

During induction, I walked for 30 minutes at 3.5 mph on a treadmill.
Since induction ended two weeks ago, I've gradually resumed running on
the treadmill, sometimes to the point of soreness.

Don't do this....never run to the point of being sore. If you get hurt,
that's the end of exercise...

<snip>

I would say soreness is not a bad thing at all, as long as it's
short-lived. Pain from injury (like muscle pulls, strains, etc) are
different than muscle soreness from lactic acidosis, which is a sign of
anaerobic muscle activity. At least this is the way I understand it.

The OP's problem made me think about my own weight loss, which was
very rapid and somewhat effortless (although I note I'm still hovering
within 5-10 pounds of goal....). While there's no doubt it was the
low-carb diet that did it, I think I would simply *not* have lost any
weight had I not been doing the high-intensity aerobic excercise that
is part of my regular routine.... my advice to the OP is up the
exercise, and no pain no gain (and also cut calories if need be)!!!

260/205/200
4/27/06

Oops... obviously I mean:

260/205/200
4/27/05

On 7 Feb 2006 15:28:20 -0800, [email hidden] wrote:

=>In 2004 I lost 40 pounds and maintained (gained back 5). I lost the
=>first 40 with very little effort or mystery. IOW, I didn't have to
=>watch my calories.
=>
=>Now that I want to lose 50 more pounds, it's totally different. After a
=>two-week induction, I'd lost only 6 pounds. I drank one evening during
=>induction (three 6oz glasses). Otherwise, I followed Atkins induction
=>to a T. Fitday and everything. During those two weeks my calories
=>ranged from about 1200 to about 1800, and my fat intake was around
=>60-70%.
=>
=>During induction, I walked for 30 minutes at 3.5 mph on a treadmill.
=>Since induction ended two weeks ago, I've gradually resumed running on
=>the treadmill, sometimes to the point of soreness. I'm also doing light
=>weightlifting with free weights, and situps.

Personally, I believe doing exercise to loose weight is a bad idea. I believe
doing exercise for health only. I am a lazy person and busy all the time and
find every excuses to not do exercise, but I am loosing weight.

The only comment I have for your food is watch out the Sodium content(Na).
Most vegitables(at least the one I eat) have high Potassium value which will
help your body release water(sweating also a big help). If you do not like
vegetables, try roasted unsalted Almond, Sunflower Seed or Avocado...

=>My alcohol intake can't be my only problem, can it? Am I eating enough
=>fat? Am I eating hidden carbs? Am I perhaps not eating enough carbs?
=>Hunger is generally not a problem with this combo of foods/caloric
=>intake. Now that I've said that, I guess I'm probably eating too many
=>calories. Ho hum.
=>
=>Any suggestions?

If you like dramatically result, you can go for low cal with right amount of
protein.

For example, let's say you weight 220lb(100kg).
Depending on your age, body and activity, you might need 100gram protein in
average and plu/minus according to your body condition.

Let's also say you want to do 1000Kcal per day.

For consume body mass theory holders.(their bodies must be pretty stupid to
save their body fat for what????)
All protein go to energy plus your body mass.
(1000-(100*4))/9=600/9=66gram
So you will need 66 gram fat(or oil) and 100gram protein per day.

For others,
Ignore 100gram protein, then 1000/9=111gram of fat/oil
So you will need 111gram of fat/oil and 100gram protein per day.
You can adjust protein amount according to your body condition.
You also need to include high Potassium value food(comparing to Sodium value)
to remove your body water.

In realty, do not eat, if feel like not eating.

Nibble some dry roasted Sun Flower seed and a huge cup of water with
Psllium(sugar free) can last half day and remove some body water.

If you want to drink, you need to measure alcohol as 7Kcal/gram

Check http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ for more info.

=>
=>Thanks,
=>Cate

Roger Zoul said:

Ernst Primer wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::
:: <snip>
::
:::: During induction, I walked for 30 minutes at 3.5 mph on a
:::: treadmill. Since induction ended two weeks ago, I've gradually
:::: resumed running on the treadmill, sometimes to the point of
:::: soreness.
:::
::: Don't do this....never run to the point of being sore. If you get
::: hurt, that's the end of exercise...
:::
::
:: <snip>
::
:: I would say soreness is not a bad thing at all, as long as it's
:: short-lived. Pain from injury (like muscle pulls, strains, etc) are
:: different than muscle soreness from lactic acidosis, which is a sign
:: of anaerobic muscle activity. At least this is the way I understand
:: it.
::
:: The OP's problem made me think about my own weight loss, which was
:: very rapid and somewhat effortless (although I note I'm still
:: hovering within 5-10 pounds of goal....). While there's no doubt it
:: was the low-carb diet that did it, I think I would simply *not* have
:: lost any weight had I not been doing the high-intensity aerobic
:: excercise that is part of my regular routine.... my advice to the OP
:: is up the exercise, and no pain no gain (and also cut calories if
:: need be)!!!

Exercise on a trendmill for someone who is at least 60 lbs over weight can
lead to big problems when overdone. There is nothing wrong with
high-intensity exercise per se, but high-impact motion can lead to injuries,
especially so for the overweight . And those injuries happen before you even
realize it. And once you get hurt, exercise program over.

If you want to up the exercise, switch to stationary cycling. You can do a
nice HIIT routine and get the heart rate really up there, which will help
with fat loss and not put one in danger of getting hurt.

Elliptical trainers are good as well, might be somewhat higher
impact. I guess running is probably a bad idea for the morbidly
obese.....

"Ernst Primer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Roger Zoul said:

Ernst Primer wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::
:: <snip>
::
:::: During induction, I walked for 30 minutes at 3.5 mph on a
:::: treadmill. Since induction ended two weeks ago, I've gradually
:::: resumed running on the treadmill, sometimes to the point of
:::: soreness.
:::
::: Don't do this....never run to the point of being sore. If you get
::: hurt, that's the end of exercise...
:::
::
:: <snip>
::
:: I would say soreness is not a bad thing at all, as long as it's
:: short-lived. Pain from injury (like muscle pulls, strains, etc) are
:: different than muscle soreness from lactic acidosis, which is a sign
:: of anaerobic muscle activity. At least this is the way I understand
:: it.
::
:: The OP's problem made me think about my own weight loss, which was
:: very rapid and somewhat effortless (although I note I'm still
:: hovering within 5-10 pounds of goal....). While there's no doubt it
:: was the low-carb diet that did it, I think I would simply *not* have
:: lost any weight had I not been doing the high-intensity aerobic
:: excercise that is part of my regular routine.... my advice to the OP
:: is up the exercise, and no pain no gain (and also cut calories if
:: need be)!!!

Exercise on a trendmill for someone who is at least 60 lbs over weight
can
lead to big problems when overdone. There is nothing wrong with
high-intensity exercise per se, but high-impact motion can lead to
injuries,
especially so for the overweight . And those injuries happen before you
even
realize it. And once you get hurt, exercise program over.

If you want to up the exercise, switch to stationary cycling. You can do
a
nice HIIT routine and get the heart rate really up there, which will help
with fat loss and not put one in danger of getting hurt.

Elliptical trainers are good as well, might be somewhat higher
impact. I guess running is probably a bad idea for the morbidly
obese.....

Yes, ellipticals are good. You don't need to be morbidly obese for running
to be bad for you.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Noway2 said:

I agree with everyone else, dump the spirits. They are most likely one
of those YMMV things meaning that there is a limit to which you can
consume and still loose weight, but the line between that and a stall
may be fine.

If you cut them out and your weight loss resumes, you will at least
know if this is the cause or not.

Plus, wine has carbs, and the hard stuff is pure fuel, which means
nothing else is getting burned. There are three things that are
guaranteed to cause a weight rise for me: my beloved single-malt, my
beloved peanuts, my not-so-beloved but tasty nonetheless carb-bars. Good
thing the whisky is so expensive and the other stuff requires a trip to
the store!
--
********************
Wayne Crannell
Atkins+ 10/21/01
249/142 (9/10/02)
********************

Roger Zoul said:

What do you weigh? If you're female, I'm guessing 170 to 210 or so. That's
important.

I've been reluctant to post it before now, but I'm thankful for your
help, so here goes. I'm right in the middle of your range: 189. My goal
is 145.

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Were you being careful with carbs before resuming?

Yes and no. I didn't count carb grams, but I never resumed my pre-LC
lifestyle of starch with every dinner, ice cream whenever I wanted. I
ate starches (French bread with salad from Panera, or half the rice I'd
been served with my Thai food) perhaps twice a week, and then in
moderation. I cut out beer entirely, and I ate more vegetables. I used
splenda instead of sugar. I thought it was a successful 1.5-year
maintenance stint.

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Don't do this....never run to the point of being sore.

I was unclear. I wake up sore the next day. I don't get sore during
exercise.

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See above. Cut the booze first...ease back on the creams...drink coffee
black sometimes...don't use so much butter (enough to cook with) and hold
the mayo somethings. Play [censored] for tat with things. Up the exercise.

Remember, you're trying to lose weight..More important, hang tight.

I appreciate all the comments, Roger. So your opinion is that (apart
from the obvious booze cutback) I need fewer calories? Or less fat? I
guess I'm unclear on whether, say, cutting the cream intake by half, or
cutting the meat intake by half (and replacing with more veggies) would
help me. I mean, the principle of Atkins that I really believe in is to
eat enough fat to make me feel sated and thus control my appetite.
Currently hunger is not a problem for me, so I obviously could stand to
reduce calories. But I wonder whether to reduce from the high-fat items
or from the items lower in fat. I realize there are more calories per
volume unit in the high-fat items. I think I'm confused.

In any case, I'm upping the exercise. Before I got so fat, I was a
runner, and I enjoy running. I'm working my way back toward that. I
think I also need to read and understand more on exercise physiology,
because I don't know whether I get more bang for my buck by running
4.0mph on a 1.0 incline for 40 minutes or by, say, walking 3.5 mph on
inclines varying between 4.0 and 8.0 for 30 minutes.

Thanks,
Cate

Roger Zoul said:

If you want to up the exercise, switch to stationary cycling. You can do a
nice HIIT routine and get the heart rate really up there, which will help
with fat loss and not put one in danger of getting hurt.

I've always hated the stationary cycle, but I love a nice rowing
machine. However, I just bought the treadmill and don't plan to join a
gym soon or buy any more equipment. My treadmill is capable of 10.0 or
12.0 incline, so I suppose more walking at that incline would help with
the fat loss.

Cate

Doug Freyburger said:

Why is the incorrect word "only" in there?

[snip]
Well, that's another way of looking at it. Thanks for showing me the
flip side!

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You're aware that a new exercise program triggers temporary
water retnetion, right? So who knows how much fat loss has
been masked by water that will go away over the next several
weeks.

Actually I didn't know that. And what I didn't include in my original
post was that I'm getting smaller. I can feel it in my clothes.

Quoted message said:

Start out with a huge smile and a happy dance. You're doing
great. *Never* discount your own real actual success by
comparing it against anything else, but most especially never
compare it against what we all desire in our results. Reality
must trump imagined unrealistic impatient desires. And you've
got real unimagined success up one side and down the next.

Thanks, Doug. I can see areas for improvement (in diet and exercise),
but I now see that another such area is in being more patient. I
appreciate your comments.

Cate

[email hidden] wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::
::: If you want to up the exercise, switch to stationary cycling. You
::: can do a nice HIIT routine and get the heart rate really up there,
::: which will help with fat loss and not put one in danger of getting
::: hurt.
::
:: I've always hated the stationary cycle, but I love a nice rowing
:: machine. However, I just bought the treadmill and don't plan to join
:: a gym soon or buy any more equipment. My treadmill is capable of
:: 10.0 or
:: 12.0 incline, so I suppose more walking at that incline would help
:: with the fat loss.

If your parts can handle it, absolutely. But just keep in mind that instead
of going intensity and short, you can long easy and long. In the end, it's
plays out to how many calories you can burn up. And, if you limit your
intake, you don't need as much exercise. Even still, exercise is good, but
you can always ramp it up as you lose more weight (you're better able to
handle more impact if you weigh less). Just try not to get hurt.

[email hidden] wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: What do you weigh? If you're female, I'm guessing 170 to 210 or
::: so. That's important.
::
:: I've been reluctant to post it before now, but I'm thankful for your
:: help, so here goes. I'm right in the middle of your range: 189. My
:: goal is 145.
::

It's good that you posted your weight. Being able to talk about it openly
will enable to you deal with it more effectively.

::: Were you being careful with carbs before resuming?
::
:: Yes and no. I didn't count carb grams, but I never resumed my pre-LC
:: lifestyle of starch with every dinner, ice cream whenever I wanted. I
:: ate starches (French bread with salad from Panera, or half the rice
:: I'd been served with my Thai food) perhaps twice a week, and then in
:: moderation. I cut out beer entirely, and I ate more vegetables. I
:: used splenda instead of sugar. I thought it was a successful 1.5-year
:: maintenance stint.
::

Ah...so, since you weren't whole hogging it w/ carbs, you probably didn't
have as much glycogen to release during induction. Hence, you didn't lose
as much. Once you hit week 3, things slow down anyway. So don't be upset
by your loss --- yet.

::: Don't do this....never run to the point of being sore.
::
:: I was unclear. I wake up sore the next day. I don't get sore during
:: exercise.
::

Okay. That's good.

::: See above. Cut the booze first...ease back on the creams...drink
::: coffee black sometimes...don't use so much butter (enough to cook
::: with) and hold the mayo somethings. Play [censored] for tat with things.
::: Up the exercise.
:::
::: Remember, you're trying to lose weight..More important, hang tight.
::
:: I appreciate all the comments, Roger. So your opinion is that (apart
:: from the obvious booze cutback) I need fewer calories?

Yes.

:: Or less fat?

Well, you're going LC, so you can cut calories wherever is easiest. LC is
typically high fat percentage wise, not simply a lot of fat 🙂

I
:: guess I'm unclear on whether, say, cutting the cream intake by half,
:: or cutting the meat intake by half (and replacing with more veggies)
:: would help me.

One, the other, or both. Make sure you don't slight protein too much. But
a little here and a little there works. And yes, LC veggies will fill you
up making it easy to reduce calories.

I mean, the principle of Atkins that I really believe
:: in is to eat enough fat to make me feel sated and thus control my
:: appetite.

Right. Of course, protein works too. Leaner cuts of meat can work if you
keep carbs low.

:: Currently hunger is not a problem for me, so I obviously
:: could stand to reduce calories. But I wonder whether to reduce from
:: the high-fat items or from the items lower in fat.

Think of it this way....LC veggies don't have many calories! So.... 🙂

:: I realize there
:: are more calories per volume unit in the high-fat items. I think I'm
:: confused.

No, I don't think so. First - can the spirits. Then just cut here and
there. A bit less cream. Perhaps 6 oz of meat. Skip a bit of cheese. The
idea is to get the loss going again and once you do you can adjust things.
As long as you aren't getting so hungry that you start to want to binge,
you're fine. My guess is once you cut the spirits you may not need to do
too much else, as long as you keep moving!

::
:: In any case, I'm upping the exercise. Before I got so fat, I was a
:: runner, and I enjoy running.

Okay, that's good info. Prior to this, I didn't know if you did any
exercise. Now I know you used to be a runner. So, odds are, you can
withstand more than someone who has simply be heavy since a very young age
(bones & stuff tend to react to extra weight over time which may make
running contraindicated).

I'm working my way back toward that. I
:: think I also need to read and understand more on exercise physiology,
:: because I don't know whether I get more bang for my buck by running
:: 4.0mph on a 1.0 incline for 40 minutes or by, say, walking 3.5 mph on
:: inclines varying between 4.0 and 8.0 for 30 minutes.

Google HIIT - high intensity interval training. In short, if you mix
periods of low intensity with high intensity exercise, you can force your
body to burn more fat AFTER the execise period is over by shifting your
metabolism higher (some call this an afterburn). You can mix up HIIT
routines (which, BTW, can become draining on a LC woe) with normal aerobic
activity. IE, do HIIT some days and do easier stuff other days. If you do
HIIT right, you'll be damn near ready to fall out after you get done. It
ain't fun and if you over do it you might get hurt. So be careful. And if
you decide to do it, ease into it over time. Don't just go whole-hog on the
first go-round.

::
:: Thanks,
:: Cate

Good luck.

Roger Zoul said:

Good luck.

Thanks for all the feedback, Roger. Just in the couple of days since
starting this thread I've done fewer calories and run for longer each
time--and I've dropped another 2 pounds. So it seems both you and Doug
were right.

Cate

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Roger Zoul said:

Good luck.

Thanks for all the feedback, Roger. Just in the couple of days since
starting this thread I've done fewer calories and run for longer each
time--and I've dropped another 2 pounds. So it seems both you and Doug
were right.

Good news! Hang tight!