"Killfiles".

John said:

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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John said:

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> While Williams beavers away trying to find the definitive "killfile"
> criteria, in another attempt to disbar his enemies from MFW, a task
> in which I suspect he is likely to find only limited success, let us
> look again at my views on "killfiling":
>
> What is the point of killfiles? If you don't want to read someone's
> contributions, just ignore them and pass on by. Williams has always
> proudly proclaimed that he has never "killfiled" anyone.
>
> Genuine "killfiling" (if there is such a thing) must be like a mole
> burrowing underground, oblivious to what is going on other than on its
> own chosen course. The "killfiles" may delete the offending posters
> from the killfilers in-box, but they remain in all other posts in any
> particular thread and are therefore always highly visible, unless you
> "killfile" the thread or extend the "killfiling" to all respondents.
>
> The use of "killfiles" is normally the defensive reaction of some
> would-be stroppy [censored], who has given another contributor the [censored],
> got more than he bargained for and decides to run for cover. That way
> he can make out he can't see what his former antagonist is saying, and
> therefore (he thinks) he is honourably excused from all further
> response.
>
> The truth of the matter is that most killfilers don't actually
> "killfile" anyone. They are terrified of missing something so they
> read everything but then think they have a good excuse not to respond.
> In a nutshell, "killfiles" are nothing more or less than an alleged
> hiding place for the faint of heart.
>
> So in a nutshell, whatever Williams comes up with, MFW will remain
> pretty much as it always has. The exception may be that those who want
> to play Williams' little game, will simply talk only to each other and
> proclaim how wonderful Williams is, and how nice it is to be rid of
> the "trolls"
>
> Remember where you heard it first. ;o)

This dribble doesn't make you less of a schmuck.

I'm sorry I can't respond to this as I have you "killfiled".

Um, er, uh.....

Whoosh!

DZ said:

Charles said:

JMW said:

"Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>"JMW" <[email hidden]> wrote
>> "Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>And, in case you are too dense to understand, there is little
>>>constructive activity taking place when certain folks post
>>>here. The simple way to handle it is just to killfile. But chucky
>>>just keeps changing his addy. He has changed it already in this
>>>thread. Because he can't stand the idea that I would not read
>>>him. Apparently he is obsessed with me.
>>
>> I'm working on it, Lee. If he's the only one around here that still
>> uses the Berlin server, I may have an answer.
>
>Thank you John.
>I think that Dally is using the individual.net server.

Yes. I just checked. But there's a workaround. She uses Mozilla;
Hudson uses Agent. It can still be done.

Sure it can John Boy, are you having a great time?

What if I just use my Outlook Express account, which is all set up,
with my alternatives servers?

This is going to be so much fun, and will give me a chance to hone my
skills.

Were you all using a decent OS like Linux with its newsreaders, there
wouldn't be a need for hopping backwards and things like nfilter. For
example, slrn can score articles based on any header and filter them
through regular expressions.

Not that I use that capability here because I never read MFW.
So, speaking of that, stop editing MY \\dreaded// (alleged)
killfiles <spit> and subscribing me to MFW.

Back to the bozo bin.

We have ways of getting you to conform comrade.

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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snipped for Dally<

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Whoosh!

I got it, sir. Whoosh! 🙂

Dally said:

John said:

"Charles" <[email hidden]> sputtered:

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Quoted message said:

Remember where you heard it first. ;o)

This dribble doesn't make you less of a schmuck.

But full-text-quoting him makes YOU more of a schmuck.

And having digs at me Wendy Marsden makes you a schmuck, whatever that
means.

Ryan Case said:

Charles said:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:08:27 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

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"Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>"Charles" babbles some more [censored]
>
>I know chucky doesn't know the meaning of big words like hypocrite.
>
>I guess he is busy in his make believe world creating wars and dramas
>where none exists.
>
>But if reasonable people want to avoid his constant blathering, they must
>killfile him twenty times a week because he constantly changes his e-mail
>addy.
>
>Which means he show ups everywhere, no matter haow people try to avoid
>him. Which means that chucky is truly evil. Killfiles would be a means to
>avoid somebody. It implies that individuals have an actual choice about
>who they want to read. But chucky won't allow it. His constant drivel is a
>campaign to make sure no training or nutrition topics are ever discussed
>in MFW.
>
>Which simply means that his warped needs and fantasies have the effect of
>killing a once vital newgroup. If you want to know when the big event
>occurred that killed this newsgroup, It is when the dreaded HUDSON
>(chucky) persona showed up and stunk the place up. And like a stubborn
>fungus, he won't leave.
>
>The reason that chucky has to identify me as a troll is because I do
>directly address his sick troll campaign for what it is. I do remember a
>time when varied EXPERTS did address various training concerns. Since
>chucky has no such expertise, he moved in and made MFW his own personal
>host. Which every parasite requires.
>
>And make no mistake, Chucky is horrified to have any kind of nfilter
>information made available to this group. I introduced the nfilter idea
>based on the successful implementation in another newgroup.
>
>It ain't no secret that chucky will be indentified as a troll and put into
>these filters by many people. And these prople will be making their own
>decisions. Democracy in action. Unlike the gang of trolls approach that
>chucky loves so much.
>
>I don't know what will happen. But rest assured, nobody will make any
>meaningful changes in their life or body because of anything that chucky
>says.
>

But . . . . but . . .Lee . . . could you 'splain something to me. I gather
that you would like to killfile Charles but he foxes you by changing his
addy. So he comes up as a post under his name 'Charles'. So, being an
intelligent person as we all know that you are, when you see a post with the
name "Charles" and knowing that you do not want to be bothered by people
whose name is "Charles", why don't you simply IGNORE these posts with that
name? What about that big word 'hypocrite'? You've never killfiled anyone
Lee - you can't bear to miss anything.

You make some good points David, which of course he won't be able to
address because he *is* a "troll" and simply won't admit it.

Or could it be that he has you two "killfiled" and therefore can't see you?

Oops, I guess looking up destroys that theory, ;~)

HEH!

Ryan Case said:

Dally said:

John said:

"Charles" <[email hidden]> sputtered:

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> Remember where you heard it first. ;o)

This dribble doesn't make you less of a schmuck.

But full-text-quoting him makes YOU more of a schmuck.

HTH

Dally

Is Dally defending Charles? Even in a round a bout way?

Me thinks I just saw a pig on the wing go by the office winder.

Double HEH!

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:23:07 -0700, Jason Earl <[email hidden]>

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Charles said:

Ellis said:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:21:20 +0000, Charles <[email hidden]> wrote:

OK, so no one really has you killfiled. We're all secretly hanging on
your every word.

I always knew that, but it is tremendously satisfying to have it
confirmed by a not "troll".

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So now will you stop changing your address every five minutes you
nutjob?

I was thinking for a moment, how nice to hear from Ellis after all
this time, and then you went and spoiled it.

Why does my email address so bother some of you? When I used to post
in my own name and used my real email address, I was inundated with
the most foul filth imaginable, obviously constructed by some very
sick people here.

No one is asking you to use your real email address. They are simply
asking you to use the same fake email address all of the time.

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Even Keith who is everyone''s chum, had the same problem, and you
ask me why I keep changing it? There are other reasons, which are
more than obvious, but none of them are to do with evading
"killfiles", because I don't give a [censored] whether you "killfile" me
or not. All the rest of my input remains exactly the same, so
*really* "killfiling" me should be relatively simple.

Then why change your address. Heck, my newsreader actually allows me
to raise the score of posters that I feel are worth highlighting. In
fact, it sorts the threads according to which threads have the most
interesting participants and subjects. People that change their
aliases a lot tend to have low scores.

Of course, that's actually part of the beauty. For the most part
people that have something to say don't spend all of their time and
effort trying to avoid killfiles.

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Now when Williams comes up with his master plan to exclude me from the
Group, that will be a different matter, and I will be only too pleased
to make him look the pratt he really is, by successfully evading his
attempts at regaining control of the Group.

I have a hard time believing that adding you to a killfile (or
lowering your score in my case) is more difficult than changing your
alias (not to mention changing your server).

You amuse yourself the best way you can Jason, and I'll do my thing. I
don't really care what you do one way or the other.

Watch my lips - this is just a great big game, and I've been out of
the game for months, and now I'm back every [censored] is posting again.

Go figure, as you Yanks are won't to say.

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:24:47 -0700, Jason Earl <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Charles said:

Ellis said:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:21:20 +0000, Charles <[email hidden]> wrote:

OK, so no one really has you killfiled. We're all secretly hanging on
your every word.

I always knew that, but it is tremendously satisfying to have it
confirmed by a not "troll".

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So now will you stop changing your address every five minutes you
nutjob?

I was thinking for a moment, how nice to hear from Ellis after all
this time, and then you went and spoiled it.

Why does my email address so bother some of you? When I used to post
in my own name and used my real email address, I was inundated with
the most foul filth imaginable, obviously constructed by some very
sick people here.

No one is asking you to use your real email address. They are simply
asking you to use the same fake email address all of the time.

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Even Keith who is everyone''s chum, had the same problem, and you
ask me why I keep changing it? There are other reasons, which are
more than obvious, but none of them are to do with evading
"killfiles", because I don't give a [censored] whether you "killfile" me
or not. All the rest of my input remains exactly the same, so
*really* "killfiling" me should be relatively simple.

Then why change your address. Heck, my newsreader actually allows me
to raise the score of posters that I feel are worth highlighting. In
fact, it sorts the threads according to which threads have the most
interesting participants and subjects. People that change their
aliases a lot tend to have low scores.

Of course, that's actually part of the beauty. For the most part
people that have something to say don't spend all of their time and
effort trying to avoid killfiles.

Quoted message said:

Now when Williams comes up with his master plan to exclude me from the
Group, that will be a different matter, and I will be only too pleased
to make him look the pratt he really is, by successfully evading his
attempts at regaining control of the Group.

I have a hard time believing that adding you to a killfile (or
lowering your score in my case) is more difficult than changing your
alias (not to mention changing your server).

You appear to have a stutter mate.

Dally said:

Ryan Case said:

Is Dally defending Charles? Even in a round a bout way?

Me thinks I just saw a pig on the wing go by the office winder.

No, I was merely pointing out that full-text-quoting a guy that most of
us have kill-filed only serves to feed the troll by giving him more
exposure. You did the same thing and I just sighed sadly, having just
net-copped y-tu-mamma.

I figure you weren't broadcasting him on purpose, just out of laziness.
But spare a moment to trim, would you?

You just won't learn Wendy Marsden will you.

http://www.teaandtaxes.com/

NFO

John said:

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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snipped for Dally<

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Whoosh!

I got it, sir. Whoosh! 🙂

HEH! ;o)

John said:

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

snipped for Dally<

Quoted message said:

Whoosh!

I got it, sir. Whoosh! 🙂

HEH! ;o)

Lee Michaels said:

"Curt James" wrote

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what meaningful changes have you created in
yourself or in others, Lee Michaels?

look at my question as an opportunity to educate
and inform. And, yes, perhaps, a chance to steer
the thread in a more positive direction.

In case you hadn't noticed, there is little chance to
"educate and inform" in a troll's forum.

Incredibly, you fail to see yourself as a troll or, rather, you
obviously deny that you exhibit troll-like behavior.

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But I do contribute in the area of gym equipment design and related matters.
I also spend some time locally helping set up home gyms and do some
consulting on building rehab equipment.

I am going to guess that that is a lie. Why? Just call it a gut
feeling.

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I don't get much of a chance to do that these days because of all the
trolling (including all the curt james posts) going on around here.

Oh, I get it. I control (even in part) your life and your actions. How
pathetic are you?

*Lee the Incapable* sez: "Well, I certainly would contribute in the
area of gym equipment design and related matters and, yes, also spend
some time locally helping set up home gyms and doing some consulting
on building rehab equipment if it weren't for ALL THE TROLLING GOING
ON IN AN INTERNET NEWSGROUP!!!"

I'm not interested in your problem, Lee, but it's obvious that you
have one. Quite possibly several. And those problems, I'm positive,
are NOT any other posters to this ng. D'OH!

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And, in case you are too dense to understand,

I'm beginning to understand you. Or, at the very least, recognize your
special brand of lunacy. Actually rather funny.

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there is little constructive activity taking place when
certain folks post here.

Poor baby!

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The simple way to handle it is just to killfile.

An incredible waste of time, imo. Rather like replying to your
nonsense, of course. Oh well.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

JMW said:

the Berlin server

I've got a secret decoder ring. Will that help?

The Doofus Squad! This episode: THE BERLIN SERVER!

Da-nah-nah!!!!

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

The Queen of I Obviously Need a Clue <[email hidden]> wrote:

re JMW and Lee Michaels

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Why is this so hard? Surely I can't be the only one
here who's managed to figure out how to keep these
asswads killfiled?

Surely she must be the only one here who hasn't figured out this isn't
about killfiles but, rather, all about the pissing contest.

mica, mica, mica, thy name is asswad.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Donovan Rebbechi said:

Oooh, a troll. Very impressive.

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Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Hnh! I would've guessed that anyone with ELFLORD in their url would
adore a troll.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

The Queen of Drivel and Vapors said:

Also, the word is "drivel."

Said the subject area expert.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Curt James said:

thy name is asswad.

What's wrong with being an asswad? I deliver an asswad into the lovely
Heather at least twice a week, just as a break from the normal
pussywads.

"John" <[email hidden]> offered:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/

I love that site. <3

Awesome.
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Lee Michaels said:

And make no mistake, Chucky is horrified to have any kind of nfilter
information made available to this group. I introduced the nfilter idea
based on the successful implementation in another newgroup.

How does that work? I was just looking through all my menus in Agent
to see if there was an "import killfile addresses" or similar and
there was not. I'm not sure I'd just import a big list but I'm not so
sure I wouldn't either.

Of course some enterprising person could implement slashcode on a
website for MFW and let it go head to head with the Usenet version. I
personally think that a fairly implemented /code version of MFW has a
chance of getting back several of the people who jumped ship.

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Lee Michaels said:

It ain't no secret that chucky will be indentified as a troll and put into
these filters by many people. And these prople will be making their own
decisions. Democracy in action. Unlike the gang of trolls approach that
chucky loves so much.

I read some of the FAQ and what I really would like is this:

1.6 What plans are there for the future?

Currently, in approximate order of priority, I am thinking about the
following:

* Ability to import and export filters
o As text files
o Directly from a web-site (tricky, but would be a nice
feature).

That second one is especially tempting as it removes the need for 100
people to constantly update filters and instead just one can do it and
we could all download it. Granted that some person would have to take
the time to update it, probably daily but JMW seems willing.

Moot point I suppose as it is not implemented yet.

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