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  1. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: UPDATE Re: "Hulda Clark is a dangerous quack"
    From: "mdd" [email hidden]
    Date: 4/17/2004 12:28 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-April 17, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
    [email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hulda is hiding out in Mexico, since she is subject to legal process in

    Quoted message said:

    California and the other 49 states.

    Hulda isn't hiding anywhere, she has an address and phone number, drivers
    license, well as tax returns from the IRS.

    Mark Probert is once again lying.

    Jan

    Mark Thorson is no doubt still obsessed, and has joined Richard H Jacobson in
    cyberstalking.

    http://tinyurl.com/39u2g

  2. Jan said:

    Mark Probert is once again lying.

    Jan

    Lying? You're accusing someone of LYING, again?
    Why don't you ever PROVE your accusations?
    Is it because they're FALSE accusations?

    Like this one:

    To see Jan's ORIGINAL POSTING, go here:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040310000815.25804.00001173%40mb-m01.aol.com

    Jan said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]

    Instead of responding to what you say, Jan is trying to discredit
    you by making insinuations about who you are or what your
    motives may be.

    Soon, she may accuse you of being on the payroll of the
    pharmaceutical companies, etc. That's the way Jan works.

    That would be ANOTHER LIE from Mark Thorson. I have NEVER accused


    anyone of

    Quoted message said:

    any such thing.

    So do prove your claim Mark!!!!!

    You can't YOU JUST LIED AGAIN!!!!!!!

    ----- example quotes of Jan accusing people of being paid shills -----

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030415173745.18794.00000646%40mb-fn.aol.com

    Any time alt. health is mentioned the personal trashing starts. Mostly
    comes from paid shill Mark Probert.

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030412210802.08778.00000680%40mb-fw.aol.com

    Internet bully Mark Probert who is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030410170838.14245.00000347%40mb-ct.aol.com

    As for Mark, he is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030325123827.25124.00000246%40mb-mn.aol.com

    As long as Mark is here, the paid shill will call names when in fact
    he is the one who is a bigot. Speaking of his own people.

  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Jan Drew Still lying
    From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]
    Date: 4/17/2004 12:36 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Jan said:

    Mark Probert is once again lying.

    Jan

    Lying?

    YES lying, just like you do and did and had to make a retraction.

    I answered your post, it went to alt. test instead of MHA which further shows
    you insane tactics.

    http://tinyurl.com/39u2g

    I suggest you get a grip.

    Jan

  4. Jan said:

    YES lying, just like you do and did and had to make a retraction.

    You persist in acusing me of LYING,
    but you have not shown EVEN ONE example of
    a statement I made which is false, much less a LIE.

    Why don't you post an example, Jan? Then everybody
    could see for themselves what one of these statements
    looks like, and decide for themselves whether or not
    it was a LIE. Why don't you want people to do that, Jan?
    Why do you want to prevent people from reaching their
    own conclusions about whether anything I said was a LIE?

    Is it because any example you could choose would
    OBVIOUSLY NOT be a false statement? And then,
    people would see it was not me who makes LIES.

    Do you need help seeing what a LIE looks like, Jan?

    Here is an example:

    To see Jan's ORIGINAL POSTING, go here:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040310000815.25804.00001173%40mb-m01.aol.com

    Jan said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]

    Instead of responding to what you say, Jan is trying to discredit
    you by making insinuations about who you are or what your
    motives may be.

    Soon, she may accuse you of being on the payroll of the
    pharmaceutical companies, etc. That's the way Jan works.

    That would be ANOTHER LIE from Mark Thorson. I have NEVER accused


    anyone of

    Quoted message said:

    any such thing.

    So do prove your claim Mark!!!!!

    You can't YOU JUST LIED AGAIN!!!!!!!

    ----- example quotes of Jan accusing people of being paid shills -----

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030415173745.18794.00000646%40mb-fn.aol.com

    Any time alt. health is mentioned the personal trashing starts. Mostly
    comes from paid shill Mark Probert.

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030412210802.08778.00000680%40mb-fw.aol.com

    Internet bully Mark Probert who is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030410170838.14245.00000347%40mb-ct.aol.com

    As for Mark, he is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030325123827.25124.00000246%40mb-mn.aol.com

    As long as Mark is here, the paid shill will call names when in fact
    he is the one who is a bigot. Speaking of his own people.

  5. << You persist in acusing me of LYING,
    but you have not shown EVEN ONE example of
    a statement I made which is false, much less a LIE. >>

    So, Thorson, if we took all of your postings in usenet newsgroups present and
    past, and send them all to
    Cell Tech, what do you suppose their response would be? Would they be able to
    prove that you had lied? Or not?

    If yes, Jan hasn't lied. If no, Jan has lied. Can we stop this Cell Tech
    issue once and for all?

    "If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance." (Jessie Winchester).

  6. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Jan Drew Still lying
    From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]
    Date: 4/17/2004 1:10 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Jan said:

    YES lying, just like you do and did and had to make a retraction.

    You persist in acusing me of LYING,
    but you have not shown EVEN ONE example of
    a statement I made which is false, much less a LIE.

    Oh knock it off, as you know better, unless ytou have lost it completely.

    From: Jan ([email hidden])
    Subject: Mark Thorson The Accuser And Liar
    View: Complete Thread (2 articles)
    Original Format
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 2004-04-10 15:39:19 PST

    http://www.celltech.com/resources/info_central/response.asp

    Does Super Blue Green Algae contain Anatoxin-a?(posted 6-19-01)

    One individual was responsible for a great deal of miscommunication regarding
    anatoxin-a, information which is still accessible on many Internet sites. Cell
    Tech sued Mark Thorson for posting defamatory statements about Cell Tech, its
    products and its personnel to various Internet or Usenet news groups. Cell
    Tech's lawsuit against Mr. Thorson has now been settled. As part of the
    settlement agreement, Mr. Thorson has posted the Retraction Statement that
    appears below. Although he did retract the allegations that he had been widely
    circulating, we all know that one cannot, with a single correct statement, undo
    all the harm done by many mis-statements that continue to circulate.

    The following is a retraction statement that Mark Thorson has posted to various
    newsgroups:

    Subject: Retraction of Anatoxin-a Primer

    During the last several years, I have from time to time posted to this and
    other newsgroups a file of information called "An Anatoxin-a Primer." I now
    retract the statements made in the Anatoxin-a Primer.

    The Anatoxin-a Primer implied that Super Blue Green Algae from Klamath Lake,
    produced by Cell Tech, contains anatoxin-a (a neurotoxin I characterized as
    addictive), and that Cell Tech deliberately avoids testing for this toxin
    because anatoxin-a is responsible for the effects reported by SBGA users. I
    have since been advised that Cell Tech conducts regular tests that would
    disclose anatoxin-a, and that this toxin has never been found in Super Blue
    Green Algae. I had no basis for the suggestions I made in the Anatoxin-a
    Primer, and I hereby retract it in full.

    Mis-state

    to state incorrectly : give a false account of

    False

    intentionally untrue

    lie

    untrue with intent to deceive

    That's as clear as a bell.

    Furthermore your lastest ranblings were answered truthfully, except you sent my
    post to alt test rather than here, that also proves your dishonesty.

    March 9th.

    http://tinyurl.com/39bym

    Jan

  7. DEBBEE1023 said:

    So, Thorson, if we took all of your postings in usenet newsgroups
    present and past, and send them all to
    Cell Tech, what do you suppose their response would be?
    Would they be able to prove that you had lied? Or not?

    I didn't lie, therefore they cannot.
    Nor has Cell Tech ever contended that I lied.
    Only Jan has done that.

    Quoted message said:

    If yes, Jan hasn't lied. If no, Jan has lied.
    Can we stop this Cell Tech issue once and for all?

    Sure. All Jan has to do is post an example of a statement
    I made about Cell Tech which is a false statement.
    She doesn't have to prove it was a LIE, merely show
    an example of a FALSE statement that I made.
    That will do. Then I will apologize to her for
    disputing her allegation that I lied.

    That's all Jan has to do -- show an example of one
    of these false statements that I made.

    Why do you suppose she won't do that?

  8. Jan the Accuser said:

    Oh knock it off, as you know better, unless ytou have lost it completely.

    But the retraction does not say any of my statements were false,
    much less a LIE. If you think one of the statements referred to
    by the retraction is a LIE, then why don't you post that statement?

    Why don't you post an ORIGINAL STATEMENT made by me
    which is a LIE?

    Why don't you do that, Jan?

    You know what an ORIGINAL STATEMENT which is a LIE
    looks like, don't you Jan? Do I need to show you an example?

    To see Jan's ORIGINAL POSTING, go here:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040310000815.25804.00001173%40mb-m01.aol.com

    Jan said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]

    Instead of responding to what you say, Jan is trying to discredit
    you by making insinuations about who you are or what your
    motives may be.

    Soon, she may accuse you of being on the payroll of the
    pharmaceutical companies, etc. That's the way Jan works.

    That would be ANOTHER LIE from Mark Thorson. I have NEVER accused


    anyone of

    Quoted message said:

    any such thing.

    So do prove your claim Mark!!!!!

    You can't YOU JUST LIED AGAIN!!!!!!!

    ----- example quotes of Jan accusing people of being paid shills -----

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030415173745.18794.00000646%40mb-fn.aol.com

    Any time alt. health is mentioned the personal trashing starts. Mostly
    comes from paid shill Mark Probert.

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030412210802.08778.00000680%40mb-fw.aol.com

    Internet bully Mark Probert who is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030410170838.14245.00000347%40mb-ct.aol.com

    As for Mark, he is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030325123827.25124.00000246%40mb-mn.aol.com

    As long as Mark is here, the paid shill will call names when in fact
    he is the one who is a bigot. Speaking of his own people.

  9. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Jan Drew Still lying
    From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]
    Date: 4/17/2004 5:10 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    DEBBEE1023 said:

    So, Thorson, if we took all of your postings in usenet newsgroups
    present and past, and send them all to
    Cell Tech, what do you suppose their response would be?
    Would they be able to prove that you had lied? Or not?

    I didn't lie, therefore they cannot.
    Nor has Cell Tech ever contended that I lied.
    Only Jan has done that.

    WRONG.

    From: Rod ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Mark Thorson Is Deceitful.
    This is the only article in this thread
    View: Original Format
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 2004-04-07 05:06:13 PST

    Mark,

    You are a Liar and that is that. Now Shut Up because you have been going on
    and on for nearly two years now. Do something charitable and make yourself
    feel well Mr Deceitful.

    Cheers, Rod

    Search Result 2
    From: Rod ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Mark Thorson Deserves a Medal
    View: Complete Thread (14 articles)
    Original Format
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 2004-04-02 02:56:15 PST

    Mark I think you are a deceitful person as well as a Liar.

    Cheers, Rod

    From: Rod ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: ElectroJan
    View: Complete Thread (2 articles)
    Original Format
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 2002-11-22 05:54:06 PST

    MARK THORSON IS A LIAR
    MARK THORSEN SHOOTS HIS MOUTH OFF AND GETS LEGAL THREATS.
    MARK THORSEN HAS TO WITHDRAW HIS STATEMENTS TO AVOID PAYING LIBEL AMOUNTS.
    MARK THORSEN HAS NOT LEARNT TO "SHUT HIS OPEN SOUTH"
    IN SHORT MARK THORSEN IS A "NET FREAK".
    MARK THORSEN ALSO DOES NOT POST TO THIS NEWSGROUP BUT RATHER ALT, TEST.
    WHAT A [censored]>>>>>>>
    Happy Days, Rod

    Search Result 4
    From: Rod ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Mercury Amalgams- Thorson's Retractions
    This is the only article in this thread
    View: Original Format
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 2002-12-04 04:49:23 PST

    BEWARE!!
    Mark Thorson makes libellous statements and then retracts same when faced
    with law suits.Being a slow learner he will always do this until he converts
    to Falun Dafa.
    Cheers, Rod.

    From: Rod ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Jan's hatred for Jews
    View: Complete Thread (103 articles)
    Original Format
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 2004-02-08 05:50:12 PST

    Hmmm ,
    me thinks it is not a hatred of Jews but rather exposing some people that
    hide behind the Jew brand.
    Of course Mark Thorson has a hatred himself and that is why he wrote this
    type of crapola.

    Cheers, Rod.

  10. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Jan Drew Still lying
    From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]
    Date: 4/17/2004 5:14 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Jan said:

    Oh knock it off, as you know better, unless ytou have lost it completely.

    But the retraction does not say any of my statements were false,
    much less a LIE.

    If you are looking for those exact words, Cell Tech was very kind to you.

    Otherwise do read what they said. It means the same thing.

    http://www.celltech.com/resources/info_central/response.asp

    Does Super Blue Green Algae contain Anatoxin-a?(posted 6-19-01)

    One individual was responsible for a great deal of miscommunication regarding
    anatoxin-a, information which is still accessible on many Internet sites. Cell
    Tech sued Mark Thorson for posting defamatory statements about Cell Tech, its
    products and its personnel to various Internet or Usenet news groups. Cell
    Tech's lawsuit against Mr. Thorson has now been settled. As part of the
    settlement agreement, Mr. Thorson has posted the Retraction Statement that
    appears below. Although he did retract the allegations that he had been widely
    circulating, we all know that one cannot, with a single correct statement, undo
    all the harm done by many mis-statements that continue to circulate.

    The following is a retraction statement that Mark Thorson has posted to various
    newsgroups:

    Subject: Retraction of Anatoxin-a Primer

    During the last several years, I have from time to time posted to this and
    other newsgroups a file of information called "An Anatoxin-a Primer." I now
    retract the statements made in the Anatoxin-a Primer.

    The Anatoxin-a Primer implied that Super Blue Green Algae from Klamath Lake,
    produced by Cell Tech, contains anatoxin-a (a neurotoxin I characterized as
    addictive), and that Cell Tech deliberately avoids testing for this toxin
    because anatoxin-a is responsible for the effects reported by SBGA users. I
    have since been advised that Cell Tech conducts regular tests that would
    disclose anatoxin-a, and that this toxin has never been found in Super Blue
    Green Algae. I had no basis for the suggestions I made in the Anatoxin-a
    Primer, and I hereby retract it in full.

    Mis-state

    to state incorrectly : give a false account of

    False

    intentionally untrue

    lie

    untrue with intent to deceive

    Then you proved yourself to be dishonest AGAIN by sending my truthful post to
    alt. test, and not here, as you didn't want the readers to see my truthful
    response.

    Squawk all you want, the facts can't be changed, furthermore every statement I
    made which you keep posting is the truth.

    March 9th.

    http://tinyurl.com/39bym

  11. Jan said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]
    I didn't lie, therefore they cannot.
    Nor has Cell Tech ever contended that I lied.
    Only Jan has done that.

    WRONG.

    Do you have anything to post which contradicts what I said?
    Cell Tech has not alleged that I lied in any of my previous statements.
    How does reposting snippets from the anonymous "Rod" persona
    back up your FALSE accusation against me?

    Are you just plain demented, or what?

    Quoted message said:

    From: Rod ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Mark Thorson Is Deceitful.
    This is the only article in this thread
    View: Original Format
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 2004-04-07 05:06:13 PST

    Mark,

    You are a Liar and that is that. Now Shut Up because you have been going on
    and on for nearly two years now. Do something charitable and make yourself
    feel well Mr Deceitful.

    Cheers, Rod

    Search Result 2
    From: Rod ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Mark Thorson Deserves a Medal
    View: Complete Thread (14 articles)
    Original Format
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 2004-04-02 02:56:15 PST

    Mark I think you are a deceitful person as well as a Liar.

    Cheers, Rod

    From: Rod ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: ElectroJan
    View: Complete Thread (2 articles)
    Original Format
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 2002-11-22 05:54:06 PST

    MARK THORSON IS A LIAR
    MARK THORSEN SHOOTS HIS MOUTH OFF AND GETS LEGAL THREATS.
    MARK THORSEN HAS TO WITHDRAW HIS STATEMENTS TO AVOID PAYING LIBEL AMOUNTS.
    MARK THORSEN HAS NOT LEARNT TO "SHUT HIS OPEN SOUTH"
    IN SHORT MARK THORSEN IS A "NET FREAK".
    MARK THORSEN ALSO DOES NOT POST TO THIS NEWSGROUP BUT RATHER ALT, TEST.
    WHAT A [censored]>>>>>>>
    Happy Days, Rod

    Search Result 4
    From: Rod ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Mercury Amalgams- Thorson's Retractions
    This is the only article in this thread
    View: Original Format
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 2002-12-04 04:49:23 PST

    BEWARE!!
    Mark Thorson makes libellous statements and then retracts same when faced
    with law suits.Being a slow learner he will always do this until he converts
    to Falun Dafa.
    Cheers, Rod.

    From: Rod ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Jan's hatred for Jews
    View: Complete Thread (103 articles)
    Original Format
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 2004-02-08 05:50:12 PST

    Hmmm ,
    me thinks it is not a hatred of Jews but rather exposing some people that
    hide behind the Jew brand.
    Of course Mark Thorson has a hatred himself and that is why he wrote this
    type of crapola.

    Cheers, Rod.

  12. << I didn't lie, therefore they cannot.
    Nor has Cell Tech ever contended that I lied.
    Only Jan has done that. >>

    So, Thorson, if I take your latest post, and send it to Cell Tech, they will be
    able to confirm you did not lie? If this is true, then can this be settled
    once and for all?

    "If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance." (Jessie Winchester).

  13. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Mark Still lying
    From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]
    Date: 4/17/2004 7:59 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Jan said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]
    I didn't lie, therefore they cannot.
    Nor has Cell Tech ever contended that I lied.
    Only Jan has done that.

    WRONG.

    Do you have anything to post which contradicts what I said?

    Yes, my post did just that.

    Quoted message said:

    Cell Tech has not alleged that I lied in any of my previous statements.

    They said mis-statement.

    to state incorrectly : give a false account of

    That's the same thing as lying, and each time you post you did not lie, you lie
    again. Then show more dishonesty sending my truthful post to alt test.

    The End.

    Jan

  14. (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Mark Still lying
    From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]
    Date: 4/17/2004 7:59 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Jan said:

    >From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]
    >I didn't lie, therefore they cannot.
    >Nor has Cell Tech ever contended that I lied.
    >Only Jan has done that.

    WRONG.

    Do you have anything to post which contradicts what I said?

    Yes, my post did just that.

    Quoted message said:

    Cell Tech has not alleged that I lied in any of my previous statements.

    They said mis-statement.

    to state incorrectly : give a false account of

    Jan says that she believes that Hulda Clark does not have the cure for
    all illnesses. Therefore Jan believes that Hulda Clark's assertion is
    incorrect.

    And by Jan's own criterium Hulda Clark lied since she gave a false
    account.

    But in Hulda's case Jan says that Hulda is simply mistaken. With Mark
    she says that he lied. And Jan has the audacity to accuse others of
    being selective. Sad that.

    Aloha,

    Rich

    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------

    The best defense to logic is ignorance

  15. [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    They said mis-statement.

    to state incorrectly : give a false account of

    That's the same thing as lying, and each time you post you did not
    lie, you lie again. Then show more dishonesty sending my truthful post
    to alt test.

    No, a misstatement is *not* the same thing as a lie. Lies are a
    *proper subset* of misstatements; specifically, they're misstatements made
    by someone who *knows* that he's making a misstatement yet does so with the
    *intention* to deceive others, usually in order to gain some sort of
    advantage for himself, an advantage he couldn't gain if he told the truth.
    Most misstatements are simply honest mistakes.

  16. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Mark Still lying
    From: Eric Bohlman [email hidden]
    Date: 4/17/2004 10:49 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    They said mis-statement.

    to state incorrectly : give a false account of

    That's the same thing as lying, and each time you post you did not
    lie, you lie again. Then show more dishonesty sending my truthful post
    to alt test.

    No, a misstatement is *not* the same thing as a lie. Lies are a
    *proper subset* of misstatements; specifically, they're misstatements made
    by someone who *knows* that he's making a misstatement yet does so with the
    *intention* to deceive others

    That's exactly what Mark did. Read in the archives, he was told and told and
    warned over and over.

    Quoted message said:

    usually in order to gain some sort of
    advantage for himself, an advantage he couldn't gain if he told the truth.
    Most misstatements are simply honest mistakes.

    See above.

    Merriam Webster

    misstate

    : to state incorrectly : give a false account of

    Jan

  17. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: UPDATE Re: "Hulda Clark is a dangerous quack"
    From: "mdd" [email hidden]
    Date: 4/17/2004 12:28 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-April 17, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
    [email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hulda is hiding out in Mexico, since she is subject to legal process in

    Quoted message said:

    California and the other 49 states.

    Hulda isn't hiding anywhere, she has an address and phone number, drivers
    license, well as tax returns from the IRS.

    Question:

    How does jan know these things and can she post proof?

    BTW, note how she does not undersatand the concept of hiding out in Mexico,
    whefre the laws are lax, the the authorities can be bribed.

  18. Sad to report, but "DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> slithered out
    from under her rock and wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    << You persist in acusing me of LYING,
    but you have not shown EVEN ONE example of
    a statement I made which is false, much less a LIE. >>

    So, Thorson, if we took all of your postings in usenet newsgroups present


    and

    Quoted message said:

    past, and send them all to
    Cell Tech, what do you suppose their response would be? Would they be


    able to

    Quoted message said:

    prove that you had lied? Or not?

    See the fascist mindset? Report him to the authorities! Turn him in! Report
    him!

    Quoted message said:

    If yes, Jan hasn't lied. If no, Jan has lied. Can we stop this Cell Tech
    issue once and for all?

    Yes, by Jan posting the words that she considers to be a lie.

  19. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Mark Still lying
    From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]
    Date: 4/17/2004 7:59 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Jan said:

    >From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]
    >I didn't lie, therefore they cannot.
    >Nor has Cell Tech ever contended that I lied.
    >Only Jan has done that.

    WRONG.

    Do you have anything to post which contradicts what I said?

    Yes, my post did just that.

    Quoted message said:

    Cell Tech has not alleged that I lied in any of my previous statements.

    They said mis-statement.

    to state incorrectly : give a false account of

    That's the same thing as lying, and each time you post you did not lie,


    you lie

    Quoted message said:

    again.

    The, by that standard Hulda Clark is LIAR. However, you will not admit that
    she is, since your fingers would fall off.

    Then show more dishonesty sending my truthful post to alt test.

    Quoted message said:


    The End.

    Jan

  20. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Mark Still lying
    From: Eric Bohlman [email hidden]
    Date: 4/17/2004 10:49 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    They said mis-statement.

    to state incorrectly : give a false account of

    That's the same thing as lying, and each time you post you did not
    lie, you lie again. Then show more dishonesty sending my truthful post
    to alt test.

    No, a misstatement is *not* the same thing as a lie. Lies are a
    *proper subset* of misstatements; specifically, they're misstatements


    made

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    by someone who *knows* that he's making a misstatement yet does so with


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    *intention* to deceive others

    That's exactly what Mark did. Read in the archives, he was told and told


    and

    Quoted message said:

    warned over and over.

    He may have been told, etc. but, he has the right to not beleive what he is
    being told until he is given proof. When he was given the proof, he did the
    honorable thing. However, since you have no honor, you cannot understand
    that.

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