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  1. My partner has just heard about Robin Cook popping his clogs whilst out hill
    walking and is alarmed!

    The problem is that she is not in the least bit interested in hill walking
    whilst my idea of a holiday is a good trek in the Pyrenees. So far I have
    been going solo, my only walking partner living about two hundred miles away
    and being self employed.

    I think my partner is now worried in case anything happens to me while I am
    away.

    I am not really a club person - preferring to walk alone or in a group of no
    more than about three. However I have considered joining a club in order to
    find a regular walking partner who might be interested in the Pyrenees.
    However they seem a bit thin on the ground around here(North Wales, Chester
    area)

    Anyone got any ideas.
    PS
    I'm retired and pushing sixty(but I can still carry a full rucksack!)

  2. On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 13:11:32 +0100, "Michael Hobby"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone got any ideas.

    Go over to www.outdoorsmagic.com and start reading the forums there.
    It's a very friendly bunch of people, and there are regular meets,
    particularly in Snowdonia. There are people there of all sorts of
    agres: age isn't an issue, and the walking isn't in any way
    competitive. I'd go straight over now if I were you - I really like it
    there 🙂

    I hope to see you over there :-)

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  3. "Michael Hobby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    My partner has just heard about Robin Cook popping his clogs whilst out
    hill walking and is alarmed!

    The problem is that she is not in the least bit interested in hill walking
    whilst my idea of a holiday is a good trek in the Pyrenees. So far I have
    been going solo, my only walking partner living about two hundred miles
    away and being self employed.

    I think my partner is now worried in case anything happens to me while I
    am away.

    I am not really a club person - preferring to walk alone or in a group of
    no more than about three. However I have considered joining a club in
    order to find a regular walking partner who might be interested in the
    Pyrenees.

    I get that reaction quite a lot + the 'why don't you carry a 'phone?'
    I have to confess most of my best mountain days have been solo. My guess if
    what happened to RC would have killed him whereever he was - company or no
    company unless he was a couple of minutes away from a defibrillator and
    somebody who knew how to use it. Just think about something like Crib Coch,
    if you have a cardiac arrest there you're dead - with or without company.
    Then there's the 'phone - do you seriusly want the 'phone ringing all
    through a day in the hills?
    Fortunately my wife is tolerant and understands why I walk alone.
    Just enjoy it.
    --
    Rod

    My real address is rodtheweedygardeneratmyweedyisp
    Just remove the weedy bits
    and transplant the appropriate symbol at.

  4. "Peewiglet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 13:11:32 +0100, "Michael Hobby"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone got any ideas.

    Go over to www.outdoorsmagic.com and start reading the forums there.
    It's a very friendly bunch of people, and there are regular meets,
    particularly in Snowdonia. There are people there of all sorts of
    agres: age isn't an issue, and the walking isn't in any way
    competitive. I'd go straight over now if I were you - I really like it
    there 🙂

    I hope to see you over there :-)

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

    Thanks, just been there and put message up.

  5. "Rod Craddock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Michael Hobby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My partner has just heard about Robin Cook popping his clogs whilst out
    hill walking and is alarmed!

    The problem is that she is not in the least bit interested in hill
    walking whilst my idea of a holiday is a good trek in the Pyrenees. So
    far I have been going solo, my only walking partner living about two
    hundred miles away and being self employed.

    I think my partner is now worried in case anything happens to me while I
    am away.

    I am not really a club person - preferring to walk alone or in a group of
    no more than about three. However I have considered joining a club in
    order to find a regular walking partner who might be interested in the
    Pyrenees.

    I get that reaction quite a lot + the 'why don't you carry a 'phone?'
    I have to confess most of my best mountain days have been solo. My guess
    if
    what happened to RC would have killed him whereever he was - company or no
    company unless he was a couple of minutes away from a defibrillator and
    somebody who knew how to use it. Just think about something like Crib
    Coch,
    if you have a cardiac arrest there you're dead - with or without company.
    Then there's the 'phone - do you seriusly want the 'phone ringing all
    through a day in the hills?
    Fortunately my wife is tolerant and understands why I walk alone.
    Just enjoy it.
    --
    Rod

    My real address is rodtheweedygardeneratmyweedyisp
    Just remove the weedy bits
    and transplant the appropriate symbol at.


    Very valid points! But you try and convince MY partner. When I told her I'd
    slept in the open one night she said "What if something had crawled over
    you?"!

    I do carry a mobile but I usually keep it switched off.

  6. On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 13:47:24 +0100, "Michael Hobby"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Very valid points! But you try and convince MY partner. When I told her I'd
    slept in the open one night she said "What if something had crawled over
    you?"!

    What a girlie!
    ;-)

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  7. Michael Hobby said:

    I think my partner is now worried in case anything happens to me while I am
    away.

    You could try pointing out you're probably more likely to get
    killed driving to do the shopping etc. than you are while walking:
    It really doesn't have much of a track record for killing people.

    On the same day Robin Cook died there were probably the typical
    daily number of vehicle occupant fatalities, which is around 8 or
    so IIRC.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  8. Michael Hobby said:

    Very valid points! But you try and convince MY partner. When I told her I'd
    slept in the open one night she said "What if something had crawled over
    you?"!

    Point out that something(s) almost certainly did, and you /still/
    survived! Inside a tent with a sewn in groundsheet last week I
    regularly found spiders, flies and beetles crawling about,
    sometimes on me. Goes with the territory, and even if she finds it
    distasteful it's still something that hasn't hurt you in many years.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  9. "Rod Craddock" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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    snip

    Quoted message said:

    Then there's the 'phone - do you seriusly want the 'phone ringing all
    through a day in the hills?

    Why do people always think phones always ring ? "I want to be away from it
    all" they say.
    Listen carefully ! I zay zis only ince : your phone doesn't have to be
    switched on !

    --
    Theo
    www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

  10. "Michael Hobby" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I do carry a mobile but I usually keep it switched off.

    That's the way to do it :-)

    --
    Theo
    www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

  11. "Peter Clinch" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Michael Hobby said:

    I think my partner is now worried in case anything happens to me while I
    am away.

    You could try pointing out you're probably more likely to get killed
    driving to do the shopping etc. than you are while walking: It really
    doesn't have much of a track record for killing people.

    On the same day Robin Cook died there were probably the typical daily
    number of vehicle occupant fatalities, which is around 8 or so IIRC.

    50000 per year in the (old) EU :-(

    --
    Theo
    www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

  12. Peter Clinch said:

    Inside a tent with a sewn in groundsheet last week I
    regularly found spiders, flies and beetles crawling about,
    sometimes on me.

    Ugh... sounds like there's something seriously wrong with the door of
    your tent!

    ;-)

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  13. theo said:


    "Peter Clinch" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On the same day Robin Cook died there were probably the typical daily
    number of vehicle occupant fatalities, which is around 8 or so IIRC.

    50000 per year in the (old) EU :-(

    Which is hardly relevant given the appalling casualty rates in some EU
    countries.

    For some perspective, try this -

    "Death by cause in the UK 2003

    Coronary Heart Disease (CVD) 113,895
    Stroke (CVD) 65,764
    Other Cardiovascular Diseases (CVD) 53,063
    Lung cancer 33.420
    Colo-rectal cancer 16,142
    Breast cancer 12,625
    Other cancer 96,258
    Respiratory conditions 84,405
    Injuries and poisoning 20,175
    All other causes 115,124"

    British Heart Foundation - Coronary Heart Disease Statistics 2005
    <URL:http://www.bhf.org.uk/professionals/uploaded/factsheet2005finalaw.pdf>

  14. Peter Clinch said:
    Michael Hobby said:

    I think my partner is now worried in case anything happens to me while I am
    away.

    You could try pointing out you're probably more likely to get
    killed driving to do the shopping etc. than you are while walking:
    It really doesn't have much of a track record for killing people.

    Normal people, yes, but I'm not normal. I seem to be able to fall off
    the kerb, and, on a recent trip to the Lakes walked to the top of Aira
    Force and managed to slip on a rock and come down so hard I ended up in
    casualty (that reminds me, I really must write to them and thank them
    for the very fine way I was treated - apart from the radiographer for
    she is evil; I've never felt pain like that before in my life).

    After that there is no way by wife is going to let me walk alone and
    she's now quite nervous of going off the beaten track when we're
    together (and she's a nurse!).

    There really is no hope for some of us.

    BTW, I'm not some doddery, one hundred and oomphty year old, zimmer
    user, I'm 38 (really? already? where does it go?) and, until the Aira
    Force incident, I had full mobility[1]. I blame the parents; couldn't
    have done a very good job of teaching me to walk.

    Justin.
    [1] I do expect to regain mobility, healing does take a little time
    though.... and for those interested, it was my left elbow, just don't
    ask me to lift anything (thank you for your concern 🙂 ).
    --
    Justin C, by the sea.

  15. Daytona said:


    "Death by cause in the UK 2003

    Coronary Heart Disease (CVD) 113,895

    0.189% of the population, that's not that bad is it?
    Maybe giving up smoking isn't so essential. Hmmm.

    Justin.

    --
    Justin C, by the sea.

  16. Peewiglet said:
    Peter Clinch said:

    Inside a tent with a sewn in groundsheet last week I
    regularly found spiders, flies and beetles crawling about,
    sometimes on me.

    Ugh... sounds like there's something seriously wrong with the door of
    your tent!

    ;-)

    As in it has one :-)

    You can't keep it closed *all* the time.
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  17. Phil Cook said:

    Peewiglet wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ugh... sounds like there's something seriously wrong with the door of
    your tent!

    ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    As in it has one :-)

    Quoted message said:

    You can't keep it closed *all* the time.

    Last week we had the doors in the inner open most of the time. No midges,
    and it was hot and sticky, and I was walking in and out a lot - during the
    rest day of the orienteering it was sunny and too hot to stay inside,
    so I would sit next to the tent and read, and then it would start to rain
    5 min later, so I would go inside, and then the sun came out again,
    repeat...

    I took to storing all the pans upside down because every time I left them
    upright there would be a couple of earwigs in them going round in circles
    looking for the way out.

    Roos

  18. Peter Clinch said:
    Michael Hobby said:

    Very valid points! But you try and convince MY partner. When I told her I'd
    slept in the open one night she said "What if something had crawled over
    you?"!

    Point out that something(s) almost certainly did, and you /still/
    survived! Inside a tent with a sewn in groundsheet last week I
    regularly found spiders, flies and beetles crawling about,
    sometimes on me. Goes with the territory, and even if she finds it
    distasteful it's still something that hasn't hurt you in many years.

    Once had to keep very quiet when a rat was wandering over my wife's
    sleeping bag. Had she woken up at that time... Not pleasant.

    What they dont see...

    Richard Webb

  19. I dont think I was ever more alone than when in the city I used to
    live in...

    Nanny - please stay off the hill. I fear SMBD after the second
    senior politician falling victim to a hill related fatality. Sadly
    heart disease is very much part of the Scottish experience.

    Richard Webb

  20. "Peewiglet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 13:47:24 +0100, "Michael Hobby"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Very valid points! But you try and convince MY partner. When I told her
    I'd
    slept in the open one night she said "What if something had crawled over
    you?"!

    What a girlie!
    ;-)

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~

    But what if they were nematodes?

    :-(

    Roy.

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