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  1. Anyone here think that this is another Paolo or Chris Horner stage?

  2. In the 95 version, I recall that Pantani attacked Indurain on the
    last climb and got a gap which remained constant on the entire climb.
    It was interesting to watch, because, despite their completely
    different
    styles and body types, they were going exactly the same speed. I expect
    there could be the exact same showdown between Ullrich and Rassmussen.

    -ilan

    Tom Kunich a écrit :

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone here think that this is another Paolo or Chris Horner stage?

  3. Tom Kunich said:

    Anyone here think that this is another Paolo or Chris Horner stage?


    I think Vino goes again, then it's going to be interesting to see who
    attacks out of the 3rd-10th place riders.
    I wouldn't be surprised at anything tomorrow.
    Bill C

  4. Quoted message said:

    In the 95 version, I recall that Pantani attacked Indurain on the
    last climb and got a gap which remained constant on the entire climb.
    It was interesting to watch, because, despite their completely
    different
    styles and body types, they were going exactly the same speed. I expect
    there could be the exact same showdown between Ullrich and Rassmussen.

    -ilan

    With the exception that they will be going slower than the blue and yellow
    motor scooter in front of them.

    --
    Bill Asher

  5. Bill C said:
    Tom Kunich said:

    Anyone here think that this is another Paolo or Chris Horner stage?


    I think Vino goes again, then it's going to be interesting to see who
    attacks out of the 3rd-10th place riders.
    I wouldn't be surprised at anything tomorrow.
    Bill C

    I hope Armstrong will let it all hang out and attack on this stage winning
    because of the uphill finish. It's a perfect stage for him, imo.

    jj

  6. Quoted message said:

    In the 95 version, I recall that Pantani attacked Indurain on the
    last climb and got a gap which remained constant on the entire climb.
    It was interesting to watch, because, despite their completely
    different
    styles and body types, they were going exactly the same speed. I expect
    there could be the exact same showdown between Ullrich and Rassmussen.

    -ilan


    Lokks like you and I are thinking along the same lines, because the
    gap is really in the grey zone between them on the TT. If either one
    could get 30 seconds to a minute that'd seal it, but as it stands it's
    a tossup. I'm just not sure how we could see the rest of the field
    allowing a shootout to happen. I think DC would give both of them some
    slack, just because Jan is far enough back, and they aren't sweating
    Rasmussen.
    Got to love the fact that we still have serious considerations to talk
    about.
    I'm picking O'Grady to snag the Green before it's over, but I wouldn't
    cry over Thor either.
    Bill C

  7. "Jet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I hope Armstrong will let it all hang out and attack on this stage winning
    because of the uphill finish. It's a perfect stage for him, imo.

    jj

    I would have said Flecha but he may be knackered his after recent efforts.
    I would have said Valverde but he's already out.
    I guess that just leaves Voeckler

  8. Or could this be the day Basso tries to take on Armstrong?

    Ken

    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Anyone here think that this is another Paolo or Chris Horner stage?

  9. IMKen said:


    Or could this be the day Basso tries to take on Armstrong?

    no, phonak will cut lance's wheel.

  10. "Nathan Thurm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    IMKen said:


    Or could this be the day Basso tries to take on Armstrong?

    no, phonak will cut lance's wheel.

    They'll have to get through 99% of the peloton to do it. This is the last
    lap of the Boss and everyone there is going to go on and on about him for
    the next decade at least.

  11. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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    Quoted message said:

    Anyone here think that this is another Paolo or Chris Horner stage?


    I heard Horner was having stomach problems yesterday. Paolo's gotta be a bit
    pooped after winning the tour's longest stage.

    I like Boogerd or Cauccioli. Or now that Discovery has a taste for stage
    wins, how about Ace or Popo?

  12. trg said:

    I like Boogerd or Cauccioli. Or now that Discovery has a taste for stage
    wins, how about Ace or Popo?

    Bogerd will ride the final for M.Rasmussen, who will counter attack
    when T-Mobile does their "thing".

    Other riders with a chance to win is riders who's traditionally dooing
    well in Fleche Wallone, Liege Bastonge Lige, Amstel, Meistershaft von
    Zürich and Giro Lombardia.

    Vinokurov could do it, but he won't because he has to support Ulrich
    when he attacks M.Rasmussen (and fails)

    Basso and Armstrong won't win it either, the climb is not long enough
    for them.

    Evans, Mazzoleni, Rasmussen, Merckx (Beligian national day, he and
    Lotto will try for shure) are my favorites. Herras might try as well,
    apperantly he is getting better and he needs to show somthing.
    Kachehckin will be there as well, as will some one from Euskatel.

    --
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

    PowerMac G5: 1.6GHz, 1.25GB RAM, 300+300GB SATA, 8xDVD+/-RW, Bluetooth
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  13. Quoted message said:

    In the 95 version, I recall that Pantani attacked Indurain on the
    last climb and got a gap which remained constant on the entire climb.
    It was interesting to watch, because, despite their completely
    different
    styles and body types, they were going exactly the same speed. I expect
    there could be the exact same showdown between Ullrich and Rassmussen.

    It wasn't Pantani, it was Jalabert.

    --
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

    PowerMac G5: 1.6GHz, 1.25GB RAM, 300+300GB SATA, 8xDVD+/-RW, Bluetooth
    mus + tastatur, R9600PRO, iSight, eyeTV200 & LaCie Photon18Vision TFT

  14. Jet says...

    Quoted message said:

    I hope Armstrong will let it all hang out and attack on this stage winning
    because of the uphill finish. It's a perfect stage for him, imo.

    Tough call. Lance is playing a solid game of chess thus far and could easily
    continue the same strategy. But it's not inconceivable that he could get
    himself into position to win this stage. It's not perfect for his style, but
    might be close enough. I'm not betting the farm on it.

  15. "Morten Reippuert Knudsen" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    news: [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    trg said:

    I like Boogerd or Cauccioli. Or now that Discovery has a taste for stage
    wins, how about Ace or Popo?

    Bogerd will ride the final for M.Rasmussen, who will counter attack
    when T-Mobile does their "thing".

    Other riders with a chance to win is riders who's traditionally dooing
    well in Fleche Wallone, Liege Bastonge Lige, Amstel, Meistershaft von
    Zürich and Giro Lombardia.

    Vinokurov could do it, but he won't because he has to support Ulrich
    when he attacks M.Rasmussen (and fails)

    Basso and Armstrong won't win it either, the climb is not long enough
    for them.

    Evans, Mazzoleni, Rasmussen, Merckx (Beligian national day, he and
    Lotto will try for shure) are my favorites. Herras might try as well,
    apperantly he is getting better and he needs to show somthing.
    Kachehckin will be there as well, as will some one from Euskatel.

    --

    Well, I don't know how much Vino is still working for his team 🙂 But the
    others won't let Vino go. He's too high on the GC. Also, it's possible that
    Discovery will keep Kachehckin from threatening Popovich if they don't have
    to expend too much energy.

    Merckx is a good bet.

  16. "trg" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Morten Reippuert Knudsen" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    news: [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    trg said:

    I like Boogerd or Cauccioli. Or now that Discovery has a taste for stage
    wins, how about Ace or Popo?

    Bogerd will ride the final for M.Rasmussen, who will counter attack
    when T-Mobile does their "thing".

    Other riders with a chance to win is riders who's traditionally dooing
    well in Fleche Wallone, Liege Bastonge Lige, Amstel, Meistershaft von
    Zürich and Giro Lombardia.

    Vinokurov could do it, but he won't because he has to support Ulrich
    when he attacks M.Rasmussen (and fails)

    Basso and Armstrong won't win it either, the climb is not long enough
    for them.

    Evans, Mazzoleni, Rasmussen, Merckx (Beligian national day, he and
    Lotto will try for shure) are my favorites. Herras might try as well,
    apperantly he is getting better and he needs to show somthing.
    Kachehckin will be there as well, as will some one from Euskatel.

    --

    Well, I don't know how much Vino is still working for his team 🙂 But the
    others won't let Vino go. He's too high on the GC. Also, it's possible
    that Discovery will keep Kachehckin from threatening Popovich if they
    don't have to expend too much energy.

    Merckx is a good bet.

    Ok. The successful break is made up of Kessler, Roberts, Zandio, Merckx,
    Serrano, Pellizotti, Vasseur, Voeckler, Da Cruz, and Martinez.

    The last climb is nasty. I think Merckx will need to hit the bottom of the
    last climb with a bit of a lead to make it to the line first.

    I'll say
    1) Martinez
    2) Pellizotti

  17. "Morten Reippuert Knudsen" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    news: [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

    I guess today we'll see if chickens can fly 🙂

  18. "trg" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "trg" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Morten Reippuert Knudsen" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    news: [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    trg <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > I like Boogerd or Cauccioli. Or now that Discovery has a taste for
    > stage
    > wins, how about Ace or Popo?

    Bogerd will ride the final for M.Rasmussen, who will counter attack
    when T-Mobile does their "thing".

    Other riders with a chance to win is riders who's traditionally dooing
    well in Fleche Wallone, Liege Bastonge Lige, Amstel, Meistershaft von
    Zürich and Giro Lombardia.

    Vinokurov could do it, but he won't because he has to support Ulrich
    when he attacks M.Rasmussen (and fails)

    Basso and Armstrong won't win it either, the climb is not long enough
    for them.

    Evans, Mazzoleni, Rasmussen, Merckx (Beligian national day, he and
    Lotto will try for shure) are my favorites. Herras might try as well,
    apperantly he is getting better and he needs to show somthing.
    Kachehckin will be there as well, as will some one from Euskatel.

    --

    Well, I don't know how much Vino is still working for his team 🙂 But the
    others won't let Vino go. He's too high on the GC. Also, it's possible
    that Discovery will keep Kachehckin from threatening Popovich if they
    don't have to expend too much energy.

    Merckx is a good bet.

    Ok. The successful break is made up of Kessler, Roberts, Zandio, Merckx,
    Serrano, Pellizotti, Vasseur, Voeckler, Da Cruz, and Martinez.

    The last climb is nasty. I think Merckx will need to hit the bottom of the
    last climb with a bit of a lead to make it to the line first.

    I'll say
    1) Martinez
    2) Pellizotti

    Armstrong just told the motorcycle cameraman that he thinks Merckx will win
    today.

  19. Morten Reippuert Knudsen said:
    Quoted message said:

    In the 95 version, I recall that Pantani attacked Indurain on the
    last climb and got a gap which remained constant on the entire climb.
    It was interesting to watch, because, despite their completely
    different
    styles and body types, they were going exactly the same speed. I expect
    there could be the exact same showdown between Ullrich and Rassmussen.

    Quoted message said:

    It wasn't Pantani, it was Jalabert.

    JaJa attacked 200km back. Pantani attacked on the final climb.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

  20. trg said:

    "Morten Reippuert Knudsen" <[email hidden]> a ?crit dans le message de
    news: [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    --
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

    Quoted message said:

    I guess today we'll see if chickens can fly 🙂

    unfortunately they don't :-(

    M.Rasmussen made a huge error: He didn't manage to position himself at
    Basso's, Ulrich's or Armstrong's wheel before the action started. His
    abilty to jump when Basso accelerated was simply blocked by Vinukurov,
    Leipheimer and Mazzoleni. Evans snd Ulrich wasn't blocked and managed
    to jump.

    --
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

    PowerMac G5: 1.6GHz, 1.25GB RAM, 300+300GB SATA, 8xDVD+/-RW, Bluetooth
    mus + tastatur, R9600PRO, iSight, eyeTV200 & LaCie Photon18Vision TFT

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