Hypoglycemia help needed

"Michel Boucher" wrote in message >

Quoted message said:

My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
diet and lifestyle.

Here are a couple of links to informative websites:

http://www.diabeticgourmet.com/recipes/

http://vgs.diabetes.org/recipe/index.jsp

Dora

Michel Boucher said:

My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
diet and lifestyle.

I had hypoglycemic issues for some time, and I found that protein was
my friend, and sugar was my enemy... sugar creates very rapid
bloodsugar spikes, which turn into drops just as quickly. Protein is
much slower to process and helps keep your blood sugar levels even for
longer. So if you have protein and carbohydrate at the same time (like
say a meat sandwich) the bread gives you quick energy and then the
meat kicks in afterwards.

--
~Karen aka Kajikit
Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life
http://www.kajikitscorner.com

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Michel Boucher said:

My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
diet and lifestyle.

Low carb.
--
K.

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Michel Boucher said:

My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
diet and lifestyle.

Man there seems to be a rash of blood sugar-related issues hereabouts
lately.

I'm sure you'll get some decent suggestions and expert advice from the
multitude, Michel. My only suggestion is that you and you son look
into the South Beach diet as a possible model for reduced carbs in
general. D, whose mother has been diabetic for more that 65 years
(she's a medical marvel), says that SB is a good model for a healthy
diet for diabetics. Plenty of protein, fiber, and such with only
limited sugars. And those are embedded in naturally occurring fruit
matrices like peaches, etc.

I realize that hypoglycemia and diabetes are polar opposites in terms
of their relative blood sugar levels, but the two are nevertheless
related under ordinary circumstances.

modom

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Quoted message said:

Michel Boucher said:

My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
diet and lifestyle.

Man there seems to be a rash of blood sugar-related issues hereabouts
lately.

Perhaps it has to do with a little statistic I saw on the web. In 1900
Americans ate 8lbs. of sugar per person. In 2000 it was 120lbs. of sugar
per person.

Quoted message said:

I'm sure you'll get some decent suggestions and expert advice from the
multitude, Michel. My only suggestion is that you and you son look
into the South Beach diet as a possible model for reduced carbs in
general. D, whose mother has been diabetic for more that 65 years
(she's a medical marvel), says that SB is a good model for a healthy
diet for diabetics. Plenty of protein, fiber, and such with only
limited sugars. And those are embedded in naturally occurring fruit
matrices like peaches, etc.

I realize that hypoglycemia and diabetes are polar opposites in terms
of their relative blood sugar levels, but the two are nevertheless
related under ordinary circumstances.

I've tried cutting my sugar intake even though I'm not diabetic. I do it
because the SO has a family predisposed to it. But what struck me as
most preposterous is that wheat bread of all things has high fructose
corn syrup in it.

I'm just going to bake my own from this point on. At least I'll be able
to control what goes into it.

"Karen AKA Kajikit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Michel Boucher said:

My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
diet and lifestyle.

I had hypoglycemic issues for some time, and I found that protein was
my friend, and sugar was my enemy... sugar creates very rapid
bloodsugar spikes, which turn into drops just as quickly. Protein is
much slower to process and helps keep your blood sugar levels even for
longer. So if you have protein and carbohydrate at the same time (like
say a meat sandwich) the bread gives you quick energy and then the
meat kicks in afterwards.

--
~Karen aka Kajikit
Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life
http://www.kajikitscorner.com

I think it kind of varies for each person. The food that creates the worst
blood sugar spikes for me is russet potatoes. Just eating them a couple of
times a week will even make my fasting blood sugar start to creep up by the
end of the week.

Kathy

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Quoted message said:

My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
diet and lifestyle.

Michel, I have the same deal. I went to the dentist and I said
something clever like ... can you hurry up and get me out of
here? He said, you have another appointment? No, I forgot
to eat.

He almost ran to his office to get me Glucose. He said, I have
the same thing. He gave me a chewable pill, I was better in
seconds. Your son should carry them.

You should be able to find them in the pharmacy section.
Having said that, I am *not* a doctor, even though my
dentist is.

nancy

Tony P. said:

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Quoted message said:

Michel Boucher said:

My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
diet and lifestyle.

Man there seems to be a rash of blood sugar-related issues hereabouts
lately.

Perhaps it has to do with a little statistic I saw on the web. In 1900
Americans ate 8lbs. of sugar per person. In 2000 it was 120lbs. of sugar
per person.

Per annum?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm sure you'll get some decent suggestions and expert advice from the
multitude, Michel. My only suggestion is that you and you son look
into the South Beach diet as a possible model for reduced carbs in
general. D, whose mother has been diabetic for more that 65 years
(she's a medical marvel), says that SB is a good model for a healthy
diet for diabetics. Plenty of protein, fiber, and such with only
limited sugars. And those are embedded in naturally occurring fruit
matrices like peaches, etc.

I realize that hypoglycemia and diabetes are polar opposites in terms
of their relative blood sugar levels, but the two are nevertheless
related under ordinary circumstances.

I've tried cutting my sugar intake even though I'm not diabetic. I do it
because the SO has a family predisposed to it. But what struck me as
most preposterous is that wheat bread of all things has high fructose
corn syrup in it.

Good point. I've grown to really dislike many commercial wheat
breads. They're just too sweet. Rye is my current favorite. But
there are some wheat breads out there that aren't sweetened I believe.

Quoted message said:

I'm just going to bake my own from this point on. At least I'll be able
to control what goes into it.

That's a solution. I've even made South Beach-friendly desserts using
wheat flour and figs and balsamic vinegar.

modom

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Tony P. said:

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On Sun, 29 May 2005 19:04:37 -0500, Michel Boucher
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>
>My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
>for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
>recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
>diet and lifestyle.

Man there seems to be a rash of blood sugar-related issues hereabouts
lately.

Perhaps it has to do with a little statistic I saw on the web. In 1900
Americans ate 8lbs. of sugar per person. In 2000 it was 120lbs. of sugar
per person.

Per annum?

Yup. Just look at the things a normal person eats during the course of a
day. Between the sugar that most everyone I know puts in their coffee,
or the soft drink they have at least 5 or so time a day that are mostly
high fructose corn syrup....

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm sure you'll get some decent suggestions and expert advice from the
multitude, Michel. My only suggestion is that you and you son look
into the South Beach diet as a possible model for reduced carbs in
general. D, whose mother has been diabetic for more that 65 years
(she's a medical marvel), says that SB is a good model for a healthy
diet for diabetics. Plenty of protein, fiber, and such with only
limited sugars. And those are embedded in naturally occurring fruit
matrices like peaches, etc.

I realize that hypoglycemia and diabetes are polar opposites in terms
of their relative blood sugar levels, but the two are nevertheless
related under ordinary circumstances.

I've tried cutting my sugar intake even though I'm not diabetic. I do it
because the SO has a family predisposed to it. But what struck me as
most preposterous is that wheat bread of all things has high fructose
corn syrup in it.

Good point. I've grown to really dislike many commercial wheat
breads. They're just too sweet. Rye is my current favorite. But
there are some wheat breads out there that aren't sweetened I believe.

Very few in this area. Only one at the local supermarket.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm just going to bake my own from this point on. At least I'll be able
to control what goes into it.

That's a solution. I've even made South Beach-friendly desserts using
wheat flour and figs and balsamic vinegar.

Mmmmm.. that actually sounds like it would be good.

Michel Boucher said:

My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
diet and lifestyle.

The best advice I got was located at:
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
Tell your son to read this page a few times. Next, make sure he gets a
meter and follows the advice given.
Jennifer, the person who wrote that info is a regular contributor to
alt.support.diabetes and misc.health.diabetes
Subscribe to those two groups and it won't take many days before one
learns to winnow the wheat from the chaff.
Also, alt.food.diabetic may provide a recipe or two.

Good luck,
Ross.

Good luck,
Ross.

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modom said:

Michel Boucher said:

My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
diet and lifestyle.

Man there seems to be a rash of blood sugar-related issues hereabouts
lately.

I'm sure you'll get some decent suggestions and expert advice from the
multitude, Michel. My only suggestion is that you and you son look
into the South Beach diet as a possible model for reduced carbs in
general. D, whose mother has been diabetic for more that 65 years
(she's a medical marvel), says that SB is a good model for a healthy
diet for diabetics. Plenty of protein, fiber, and such with only
limited sugars. And those are embedded in naturally occurring fruit
matrices like peaches, etc.

I realize that hypoglycemia and diabetes are polar opposites in terms
of their relative blood sugar levels, but the two are nevertheless
related under ordinary circumstances.

modom

Sugar cane should be banned from the planet...

unless it's used to manufacture Rum! ;-d
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Karen AKA Kajikit said:

Michel Boucher said:

My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
diet and lifestyle.

I had hypoglycemic issues for some time, and I found that protein was
my friend, and sugar was my enemy... sugar creates very rapid
bloodsugar spikes, which turn into drops just as quickly. Protein is
much slower to process and helps keep your blood sugar levels even for
longer. So if you have protein and carbohydrate at the same time (like
say a meat sandwich) the bread gives you quick energy and then the
meat kicks in afterwards.

"500 Low Carb Recipes" by Dana Carpender.

I have the book, and the recipes look fantastic. People in the low carb
group have nothing but good to say about it, I suppose I should start
using it (to manage diabetes) instead of just admiring it on the bookshelf.
<G>

Carol

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United States:
http://www.stopthehunger.com/
International:
http://www.thehungersite.com/

"RR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: Michel Boucher <[email hidden]> wrote:
:
: >
: >My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
: >for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
: >recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
: >diet and lifestyle.
:
:
: The best advice I got was located at:
: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
: Tell your son to read this page a few times. Next, make sure he gets a
: meter and follows the advice given.
: Jennifer, the person who wrote that info is a regular contributor to
: alt.support.diabetes and misc.health.diabetes
: Subscribe to those two groups and it won't take many days before one
: learns to winnow the wheat from the chaff.
: Also, alt.food.diabetic may provide a recipe or two.
:
Jennifer, I believe Ross is right, take advice from those who know.
There is so much rubbish in the advice people have given in this thread, they
should be held to account for their responses.
Find out all you can about the conditions ('hypoglycemic' is not the same as
'diabetic'😉, I am type II diabetic, but there is no way on Gods litttle earth I
would ever go 'hypo', it just can't happen to me. As for low carb diet, that is
the LAST thing to consider, your son NEEDS sugar, not lack of it!
Get good advice, from those groups Ross suggested.
GOOD LUCK, be responsible, and I'm sure you and your son will be fine.
cheers
Wazza

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"RR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: Michel Boucher <[email hidden]> wrote:
:
: >
: >My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm
: >looking for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc,
: >as well as recommendations for cookbooks geared to a
: >hypoglycemic (or diabetic) diet and lifestyle.
:
:
: The best advice I got was located at:
: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
: Tell your son to read this page a few times. Next, make sure he
: gets a meter and follows the advice given.
: Jennifer, the person who wrote that info is a regular contributor
: to alt.support.diabetes and misc.health.diabetes
: Subscribe to those two groups and it won't take many days before
: one learns to winnow the wheat from the chaff.
: Also, alt.food.diabetic may provide a recipe or two.
:
Jennifer, I believe Ross is right, take advice from those who
know.

I'm not Jennifer. It's gotten so that I expect Michael or Mike once
in a while, but Jennifer??? Now that is a new one on me.

Quoted message said:

There is so much rubbish in the advice people have given in
this thread, they should be held to account for their responses.
Find out all you can about the conditions ('hypoglycemic' is not
the same as 'diabetic'😉, I am type II diabetic, but there is no
way on Gods litttle earth I would ever go 'hypo', it just can't
happen to me. As for low carb diet, that is the LAST thing to
consider, your son NEEDS sugar, not lack of it! Get good advice,
from those groups Ross suggested. GOOD LUCK, be responsible, and
I'm sure you and your son will be fine. cheers

So, my son needs sugar, you say. Yes, if his blood sugar is low.
Hopefully, a diabetic diet should be able to help keep those dips
under control, and I doubt a diabetic diet is composed of primarily
of sugar. I would expect it to have a properly balanced nutritional
éventail which would include slower burning material than sugars.

Oh, and I plan to be totally irresponsible in this matter, just so
you know :-,>

--

[...] remember when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down 'ere on Earth!

Monty Python's Universe Song

"Michel Boucher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: "Wazza" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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: > "RR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
: > news:[email hidden]...
: >: Michel Boucher <[email hidden]> wrote:
: >:
: >: >
: >: >My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm
: >: >looking for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc,
: >: >as well as recommendations for cookbooks geared to a
: >: >hypoglycemic (or diabetic) diet and lifestyle.
: >:
: >:
: >: The best advice I got was located at:
: >: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
: >: Tell your son to read this page a few times. Next, make sure he
: >: gets a meter and follows the advice given.
: >: Jennifer, the person who wrote that info is a regular contributor
: >: to alt.support.diabetes and misc.health.diabetes
: >: Subscribe to those two groups and it won't take many days before
: >: one learns to winnow the wheat from the chaff.
: >: Also, alt.food.diabetic may provide a recipe or two.
: >:
: > Jennifer, I believe Ross is right, take advice from those who
: > know.
:
: I'm not Jennifer. It's gotten so that I expect Michael or Mike once
: in a while, but Jennifer??? Now that is a new one on me.
:

OK, sorry Mike.

: > There is so much rubbish in the advice people have given in
: > this thread, they should be held to account for their responses.
: > Find out all you can about the conditions ('hypoglycemic' is not
: > the same as 'diabetic'😉, I am type II diabetic, but there is no
: > way on Gods litttle earth I would ever go 'hypo', it just can't
: > happen to me. As for low carb diet, that is the LAST thing to
: > consider, your son NEEDS sugar, not lack of it! Get good advice,
: > from those groups Ross suggested. GOOD LUCK, be responsible, and
: > I'm sure you and your son will be fine. cheers
:
: So, my son needs sugar, you say. Yes, if his blood sugar is low.

but you say he is hypoglycemic? or do you mean hyperglycemic?? hypo == too
little, hyper == too much

: Hopefully, a diabetic diet should be able to help keep those dips
: under control, and I doubt a diabetic diet is composed of primarily
: of sugar.

No! The diabetic diet keeps the high sugars under control!! When diabetics go
hypo, they have administered too much insulin for the sugar they have consumed.

:I would expect it to have a properly balanced nutritional
: éventail which would include slower burning material than sugars.

but its the fast burning sugars that your son requires, (if he is hypoglycemic)
give him slow burners and he is going to be very ill!
:
: Oh, and I plan to be totally irresponsible in this matter, just so
: you know :-,>
:
by responsible, I mean you (and your son) have to take control of your son's
condition. It is well understood by diabetics that they are responsible for
looking after their illness, with the doctors help. Do not rely just on your
doctors say so. Seek others opinion.
Just trying to help, but if you don't want it, why post?
cheers
Wazza

Michel Boucher said:

So, my son needs sugar, you say. Yes, if his blood sugar is low.
Hopefully, a diabetic diet should be able to help keep those dips
under control, and I doubt a diabetic diet is composed of primarily
of sugar. I would expect it to have a properly balanced nutritional
éventail which would include slower burning material than sugars.

Oh, and I plan to be totally irresponsible in this matter, just so
you know :-,>

That's my boy!! LOL!

Carol

--
CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY
United States:
http://www.stopthehunger.com/
International:
http://www.thehungersite.com/

Michel Boucher said:

My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
diet and lifestyle.

One thing that most everyone is sounding off without asking about is,
does he work out? If not, then most of what is here is good, but if he
works out regularly and especially if hard, then low carb won't cut it.
You can't do intense exercise based on protein/fat diets.

Having said that???

jim

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Quoted message said:

Michel Boucher said:

My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
diet and lifestyle.

One thing that most everyone is sounding off without asking about is,
does he work out? If not, then most of what is here is good, but if he
works out regularly and especially if hard, then low carb won't cut it.
You can't do intense exercise based on protein/fat diets.

Having said that???

jim

It has to be pretty intense for that to apply, though, Jim. I do an hour of
weightlifting and an hour of Pilates on alternating days, every day, and I
haven't hit the wall yet, carbwise. I'd say it's definitely more of a
concern if he's running or biking, but still, he can keep carbs low most of
the time and just carry some carbier stuff for his workouts, and do very
well indeed.

Lynne A
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Wazza said:

"RR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: Michel Boucher <[email hidden]> wrote:
:
: >
: >My son, 21, has just discovered that he's hypoglycemic. I'm looking
: >for appropriate websites with diet ideas, recipes, etc, as well as
: >recommendations for cookbooks geared to a hypoglycemic (or diabetic)
: >diet and lifestyle.
:
:
: The best advice I got was located at:
: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
: Tell your son to read this page a few times. Next, make sure he gets a
: meter and follows the advice given.
: Jennifer, the person who wrote that info is a regular contributor to
: alt.support.diabetes and misc.health.diabetes
: Subscribe to those two groups and it won't take many days before one
: learns to winnow the wheat from the chaff.
: Also, alt.food.diabetic may provide a recipe or two.
:
Jennifer, I believe Ross is right, take advice from those who know.
There is so much rubbish in the advice people have given in this thread, they
should be held to account for their responses.
Find out all you can about the conditions ('hypoglycemic' is not the same as
'diabetic'😉, I am type II diabetic, but there is no way on Gods litttle earth I
would ever go 'hypo', it just can't happen to me. As for low carb diet, that is
the LAST thing to consider, your son NEEDS sugar, not lack of it!
Get good advice, from those groups Ross suggested.
GOOD LUCK, be responsible, and I'm sure you and your son will be fine.
cheers
Wazza

It's not actually SUGAR he needs... refined sugar is very bad for you
if you are hypoglycemic because it hits the bloodstream so quickly and
disappears just as fast. One of the causes of hypoglycemia is an
overactive insulin-producing system. So you eat sugar and your body
says 'GOODY SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!' and rushes out the insulin to process
it. A very short time later all of that available sugar has been
locked away in your cells and it's not in your bloodstream any more
and the insulin is still floating around there saying 'where's the
sugar gone?" and you have a hypoglycemic attack.

The best way to avoid the hypo is a)keep the level of simple
sugar/carbs down (but not nonexistent) so that the insulin response
isn't triggered, and b)give your body slower-processing food to
provide energy once the initial sugar rush is gone. Otherwise you'll
stagger through the day from hypo to hypo and never feel better.
Simple sugars are only good if he is actively having a hypo - get a
box of glucotabs for emergencies. Glucose is the fastest processed
sugar and it goes right to the brain where it's needed and stops the
hypo. Take a glucotab during a hypo and then follow up with some
protein ASAP.

If your son is hungry he needs to eat. That doesn't mean eat six
whopping great meals every day. Instead of eating three big meals in a
day it's much better on the bloodsugar to break it down into three
smaller meals and three snacks halfway between.

One more thing. A diabetic friend advised me to exercise for fifteen
to twenty minutes immediately after eating to get my body working on
processing the sugars more efficiently. DON'T DO IT! The last thing a
hypoglycemic person needs is more insulin in their bloodstream after
meals - there's already too much there.

--
~Karen aka Kajikit
Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life
http://www.kajikitscorner.com