Blocking Cortisol???

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mr-Natural-Health said:

No one study is definitive on anything, or scientifically proves
anything.

More so than zero studies, which is what you have shown.

Seth
--
this is called missing the forest for the trees.
Or just 'being a moron', your call. -- Lyle McDonald

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

I talked to my Dr. tonight about the issue finally and here was her
advice as she agreed that an increase in Cortisol was the most likely
problem:

.. . .

Quoted message said:

Increase exercize. Probably my only option. I've just got to burn more
calories somehow!

That will probably increase cortisol.

Seth
--
"There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate" -- Will Brink
Except sushi rice, seaweed, and wasabi.

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Seth Breidbart) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

I talked to my Dr. tonight about the issue finally and here was her
advice as she agreed that an increase in Cortisol was the most likely
problem:

. . .

Quoted message said:

Increase exercize. Probably my only option. I've just got to burn more
calories somehow!

That will probably increase cortisol.

Seth

I did consider that... and you are right.
Her point was to try to increase calorie burn somehow.
She does not know any way to lower Cortisol other
than getting back on a routine schedule.

And that's not going to happen any time soon. :-(

I asked them to go ahead and short my hours next month to give
me more time off and see if that will help. I have tons of
vacation time available to fill in the missing hours so I don't
lose any money.

We'll see what happens.

Thanks!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

WillBrink said:

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The problem is, there is no SCI at sci.med.nutrition. > > What is

your problem, Dork?

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You stupid.

You stupid Whiner! 🙂

Go run home to Ma Ma and cry some more. Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

WillBrink said:

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The problem is, there is no SCI at sci.med.nutrition.
It's been over run bu nuts and idiots. It's the type
of forum that needs to be moderated.

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It's too bad, a real science based nutrition news
group would be great.

What is your problem, Dork?

You stupid.

While people like WillBrink only whine like a stuck pig, I prefer to
do. 🙂

My Yahoo Group Newsletter is at:
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The website includes a health blog at:
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a set of tutorials at:
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and, of course, a complete dictionary of alternative medicine and
wellness at:
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/gnu-dictionary/

So, I am repeating the same question. What is your problem, Dork?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mr-Natural-Health said:

WillBrink said:

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> The problem is, there is no SCI at sci.med.nutrition.
> It's been over run bu nuts and idiots. It's the type
> of forum that needs to be moderated.

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> It's too bad, a real science based nutrition news
> group would be great.

What is your problem, Dork?

You stupid.

While people like WillBrink only whine like a stuck pig, I prefer to
have all my teeth removed because I am such an unhealthy idiot.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

WillBrink said:

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You stupid.

While people like WillBrink only whine like a stuck pig, I prefer to
have all my teeth removed because I am such an unhealthy idiot.

Speaking of stupid, I eat absolutely everything including whole apples,
corn on the cob, steak, and even an occassional Whopper fastfood
hamburger, in precisely the same manner that I have always eaten them
with a normal full set of dentures. 🙂

When any person has a health problem, the responsible knowledgeable
person resolves the problem 100%. All my dental problems were resolved
between '91 (when my teeth were removed) and in '93 (when my last set
of permanent dentures was re-casted for a perfect fit). 🙂

Among the many benefits of dentures, are:
- No more dental bills. I have not paid a dentist one penny of my money
since 1993.
- No more dental headaches.
- No more mercury in my mouth.
- No more teeth cleaning/scrapping, No more drilling, No more pain,
etc.
- No more gum inflammation.

Most people now believe, that I own a perfect set of teeth which can be
compared to my old look of a mouth full of silver and rotten teeth. 🙂

Now, who is the idiot here? Ha, ... Hah, Ha! The stuck pig whiner
called WillBrink. Just my opinion, but I am right as usual.

Mr-Natural-Health said:

WillBrink said:

Quoted message said:

> The problem is, there is no SCI at sci.med.nutrition.
> It's been over run bu nuts and idiots. It's the type
> of forum that needs to be moderated.

Quoted message said:

> It's too bad, a real science based nutrition news
> group would be great.

What is your problem, Dork?

You stupid.

While people like WillBrink only whine like a stuck pig, I prefer to
do. 🙂

My Yahoo Group Newsletter is at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Health-with-Attitude/

My Google Moderated Group is at:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Natural-Health/about

My 100+ web page accredited health website is at:
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/

The website includes a health blog at:
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/blog/

a set of tutorials at:
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/

and, of course, a complete dictionary of alternative medicine and
wellness at:
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/gnu-dictionary/

Neo-Nazis also have plenty of web sites.
--

JMW
http://www.rustyiron.net

Mr-Natural-Health said:

JMW said:

Neo-Nazis also have plenty of web sites.

But, are they accredited health web sites? 🙂

You mean your accreditation by HONCode because you add a disclaimer
stating that you are not qualified to give medical advice? (I guess we
can all be thankful for that warning!)
--

JMW
http://www.rustyiron.net

JMW said:

Mr-Natural-Health said:

JMW said:

Neo-Nazis also have plenty of web sites.

But, are they accredited health web sites? 🙂

You mean your accreditation by HONCode because you add a disclaimer
stating that you are not qualified to give medical advice? (I guess

we

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can all be thankful for that warning!)

Unlike removing the tag on the mattress, some warnings should be
heeded.

David

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mr-Natural-Health said:

WillBrink said:

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> You stupid.

While people like WillBrink only whine like a stuck pig, I prefer to
have all my teeth removed because I am such an unhealthy idiot.

Speaking of stupid, I eat absolutely everything including whole apples,
corn on the cob, steak, and even an occassional Whopper fastfood
hamburger, in precisely the same manner that I have always eaten them
with a normal full set of dentures. 🙂

Making you a toothless fat idiot. Your parents must be proud.

Quoted message said:

When any person has a health problem, the responsible knowledgeable
person resolves the problem 100%. All my dental problems were resolved
between '91 (when my teeth were removed) and in '93 (when my last set
of permanent dentures was re-casted for a perfect fit). 🙂

And just what was the nature of the health problem oh toothless one?

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Among the many benefits of dentures, are:

Bwa ha ha ha. Now he is trying to convince people of the "benefits of
dentures." Classic! Let's all go get our teeth pulled out to avoid the
problems of those nasty teeth things.

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- No more dental bills. I have not paid a dentist one penny of my money
since 1993.
- No more dental headaches.
- No more mercury in my mouth.
- No more teeth cleaning/scrapping, No more drilling, No more pain,
etc.
- No more gum inflammation.

Quoted message said:

Most people now believe, that I own a perfect set of teeth which can be
compared to my old look of a mouth full of silver and rotten teeth. 🙂

And you had a mouth full of rotten teeth why oh health expert?

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Now, who is the idiot here?

You clearly, for all the world to see. You have out done yourself this
time, and that's really saing something when it comes to you oh
toothless one. Congrats!

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mr-Natural-Health said:

My 100+ web page accredited health website is at:
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/

My, my, an *accredited* website. Whatever will they think of next?

Seth
--
When I'm telling you to get a life, it's time to consider suicide very
seriously. -- Lyle McDonald

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Seth Breidbart) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

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Increase exercize. Probably my only option. I've just got to burn more
calories somehow!

That will probably increase cortisol.

I did consider that... and you are right.
Her point was to try to increase calorie burn somehow.
She does not know any way to lower Cortisol other
than getting back on a routine schedule.

There are some supplements that can help. You might look into
Ab-Solved from AvantLabs or Lean Xtreme from Designer Supplements.

Seth
--
Who cares? Shut up and lift. -- Watson (the pencil neck) Davis

JMW said:

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But, are they accredited health web sites? 🙂

You mean your accreditation by ... because you add a disclaimer
stating that you are not qualified to give medical advice? (I guess

we

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can all be thankful for that warning!)

Perhaps, if you were to focus?

The subject is whining Dorks, who are unable to perform, such as
yourself.

If little old me can do all of the above, it makes you Geeks totally
pathetic whiners.

Just my opinion, but I am right as usual.

Ha, ... Hah, Ha! I am laugh at you. 🙂

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mr-Natural-Health said:

WillBrink said:

Quoted message said:

Most people now believe, that I own a perfect set of teeth which

can be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

compared to my old look of a mouth full of silver and rotten teeth.

🙂

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And you had a mouth full of rotten teeth why oh health expert?

Gee, ... could it be because they were rotten?

Ah, so your nutrition and health was so bad, they were all rotten? And
from that, you decided you should go onto give health and nutritional
advice?

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I fixed my dental problem, with a solution that works 100%. 🙂

Yup, you sure did "fix" the problem oh toothless one.

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Like most science people,

Which you clearly are not.

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you are thinking of the wooden teeth that
George Washington wore.

No, i am thinking of the fat toothless idiot who was in such poor shape
all his teeth had to be pulled out yet feels he should give out
nutrition and health advice.

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You know the 1st President of the United
States which physicians bleed to death some 200 years ago.

I am not wearing ill fitted wooden teeth, Dumb Ass.

Yes, that is something to be most proud of oh toothless one.

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I am wearing space
age plastic and ceramics that have a perfect fit and work 100% like
normal teeth. Boy are you dumb, Dumb Ass. And, of course, totally out
of date.

Yes, give out some more health advice with that.

Quoted message said:

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mr-Natural-Health said:

WillBrink said:

Quoted message said:

I am wearing space
age plastic and ceramics that have a perfect fit and work 100% like
normal teeth. Boy are you dumb, Dumb Ass. And, of course, totally

out

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of date.

Yes, give out some more health advice with that.

Trying to ridicule people

Not ridiculing people, I am riduculing you stupid, and doing a damn fine
job of it I am.

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is a classic characteristic of the typical
science person

So scientis and "science people" are prone to ridicule you say?

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with the personality of a constipated warthog. With
emphasis on trying. Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

It is not working! I use 🙂 NOT :-)

Just thought that the [censored] might want to know. 🙂

Lack of teeth make it hard to write in English?

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mr-Natural-Health said:

WillBrink said:

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It is not working! I use 🙂 NOT :-)

Just thought that the [censored] might want to know. 🙂

Lack of teeth make it hard to write in English?

Hey numb nuts!

Better to have numb nuts then no teeth. Carry on of toothless one.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

In article <[email hidden]>,

JMW said:

Neo-Nazis also have plenty of web sites.

Yeesh!
What've you dudes done to my poor innocent little thread? ;-)

Okay, here is an update on what I have done plan to try.

Rather than doing a fat fast this time in attempt to break this
frustrating stopping point, I just re-balanced the calories a bit and
increased the fat percentage of the calories to about 60% and cut carbs
back almost to zero except for what I get in veggies like celery,
radishes, chard and other leafy greens. Sticking more to chicken and
fish rather than red meat, and getting the fat from mostly dairy.

I'm kinda losing my taste for beef anyway unless I can get range beef.
I've never been overly fond of pork...... When I DO make a pork roast,
it's generously treated with LOTS of garlic and other fresh herbs,
primarily rosemary. Pork has a "fusty" taste to me that needs a lot of
help. I'd not buy it at all except my housemate likes it. It's usually
grilled over a wood fire.

Seems to have worked as my weight is slowly on the downslide again. I'm
down 1 lb. from where I got stuck. We'll see over the next couple of
days if it's just a fluke/fluctuation but I've also noted my pants are
looser than they were around the waistline.

And the acetest tablets for urine ketones are deep purple...

In the meantime, I finally managed to speak with my "guru" at work who
is far more "up" on esoteric supplementation than I am. He's an ER
Doctor who is heavily into longevity medicine, nutritional therapy, and
sports nutrition as well as herbalism and alternative health practices.

Practices what he preaches too. ;-)

So, his recommendations to me for cortisol control were the following:

Beta Sitosterol, 100 mg. twice per day
Alpha Lipoic Acid, 100 to 150 mg. twice per day
Resoveritol, 10-20mg. once per day.

I'll do a bit of googling on those and also check prices at the local
health food stores.

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

JMW said:

Mr-Natural-Health said:

JMW wrote:
> Neo-Nazis also have plenty of web sites.

But, are they accredited health web sites? 🙂

You mean your accreditation by HONCode because you add a disclaimer
stating that you are not qualified to give medical advice? (I guess

we

Quoted message said:

can all be thankful for that warning!)

Unlike removing the tag on the mattress, some warnings should be
heeded.

David

<grins>

Your name is interesting...
One of our ER doctors names was also David Cohen.
He was one of the first people that introduced me to the concept of
"balance" in using vitamins.

This doc was very jewish and wore that little beanie thing on his head
all of the time. We used to tease him about it, said he wore it just to
cover his bald spot. <lol>

He was very good tho' and a wonderful person. He left this ER
organization and I lost touch with him. He was into vitamin therapy and
homeopathy.

Anyway, when I first started lifting and eating a lot more protein, I
was being bothered by leg cramps. Not just ANY leg cramps, but 3 am wake
me up screaming QUADRICEP cramps!!!

On a pain scale of 1 to 10, it was probably at least a 12. ;-P

I kept rolaids on hand for a fairly quick resolution, but it was not
long lasting. Once it was determined that it was a calcium problem, I
tried just about every different form of calcium that I could find.
Calcium carbonate, Calcium gluconate, etc. Whatever was on the health
food store shelves.

I finally took my problem to Dr. Cohen and he told me the problem was
that I was taking Calcium! By itself.

He said that minerals must be balanced. The crucial mix was the proper
balance of calcium, magnesium and phosphorous.

Once I switched to a balanced multi-mineral that included all three, the
problem went away...

So, why do Dr.'s keep pushing plain calcium tablets on women with
Osteoporosis???

<sigh>
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Seth Breidbart) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Seth Breidbart) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>Increase exercize. Probably my only option. I've just got to burn more
>calories somehow!

That will probably increase cortisol.

I did consider that... and you are right.
Her point was to try to increase calorie burn somehow.
She does not know any way to lower Cortisol other
than getting back on a routine schedule.

There are some supplements that can help. You might look into
Ab-Solved from AvantLabs or Lean Xtreme from Designer Supplements.

Seth

I will, thank you! :-)

Also, tell me what you think about the three I just posted about a bit
ago?

I have some serious googling to do......

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson