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  1. The pain in my upper back is so bad now that 135 hurts and it doesn't
    let up during the squat. So, I went to a new chiropractor today. He's
    Dr. Fred Clary who also set a few world records in the APF as a
    teenage (793 deadlift at 275 was one). Anywho, he tells me I have a
    rib overlapping another and a disk out of place. He asks me when my
    next meet is and I tell him I'm flying out early Friday. He asks me if
    I expect him to walk on water.

    So, he says he's going to be pretty rough on me today. He wasn't
    kidding. I've never experiences so much pain for so long before. He
    kept putting pressure on the spot I get the pain from for what seemed
    like 10 minutes and he was pushing hard. Then he quickly placed his
    other hand on my spine and cracks my back in such a way I feel it
    throughout my back. He does the same thing in a little different spot
    and then wammo, my whole back explodes again. He cracked my back once
    more and then put my neck through it's paces, cracking it twice. The
    last time he yells, "there it is!" and says that's enough. Then tells
    me he wants to see me this afternoon.

    I went back for more punishment this afternoon. He had my lay on my
    belly and put heat on my upper back and neck for about 10 minutes. He
    then came back and crunched my back and neck about 4 or 5 times within
    about 10 seconds and said, "you're done".

    So now I feel like I've been in a car accident but I don't have any
    rib pain any more. Just some very sore muscles. I just hope I heal up
    enough by Saturday that pain won't be an issue. Oh, and, he told me to
    start doing high pulls. I guess that gives me an excuse to buy more
    bumpers:-)

  2. "John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The pain in my upper back is so bad now that 135 hurts and it doesn't
    let up during the squat. So, I went to a new chiropractor today. He's
    Dr. Fred Clary who also set a few world records in the APF as a
    teenage (793 deadlift at 275 was one). Anywho, he tells me I have a
    rib overlapping another and a disk out of place. He asks me when my
    next meet is and I tell him I'm flying out early Friday. He asks me if
    I expect him to walk on water.

    So, he says he's going to be pretty rough on me today. He wasn't
    kidding. I've never experiences so much pain for so long before. He
    kept putting pressure on the spot I get the pain from for what seemed
    like 10 minutes and he was pushing hard. Then he quickly placed his
    other hand on my spine and cracks my back in such a way I feel it
    throughout my back. He does the same thing in a little different spot
    and then wammo, my whole back explodes again. He cracked my back once
    more and then put my neck through it's paces, cracking it twice. The
    last time he yells, "there it is!" and says that's enough. Then tells
    me he wants to see me this afternoon.

    I went back for more punishment this afternoon. He had my lay on my
    belly and put heat on my upper back and neck for about 10 minutes. He
    then came back and crunched my back and neck about 4 or 5 times within
    about 10 seconds and said, "you're done".

    So now I feel like I've been in a car accident but I don't have any
    rib pain any more. Just some very sore muscles. I just hope I heal up
    enough by Saturday that pain won't be an issue. Oh, and, he told me to
    start doing high pulls. I guess that gives me an excuse to buy more
    bumpers:-)

    Guy sounds like a quack. Strong SOB, but a quack nonetheless.

  3. On Wed, 18 May 2005 22:00:06 -0500, "Jim R." <mmm...nah> wrote in
    misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:


    "John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The pain in my upper back is so bad now that 135 hurts and it doesn't
    let up during the squat. So, I went to a new chiropractor today. He's
    Dr. Fred Clary who also set a few world records in the APF as a
    teenage (793 deadlift at 275 was one). Anywho, he tells me I have a
    rib overlapping another and a disk out of place. He asks me when my
    next meet is and I tell him I'm flying out early Friday. He asks me if
    I expect him to walk on water.

    So, he says he's going to be pretty rough on me today. He wasn't
    kidding. I've never experiences so much pain for so long before. He
    kept putting pressure on the spot I get the pain from for what seemed
    like 10 minutes and he was pushing hard. Then he quickly placed his
    other hand on my spine and cracks my back in such a way I feel it
    throughout my back. He does the same thing in a little different spot
    and then wammo, my whole back explodes again. He cracked my back once
    more and then put my neck through it's paces, cracking it twice. The
    last time he yells, "there it is!" and says that's enough. Then tells
    me he wants to see me this afternoon.

    I went back for more punishment this afternoon. He had my lay on my
    belly and put heat on my upper back and neck for about 10 minutes. He
    then came back and crunched my back and neck about 4 or 5 times within
    about 10 seconds and said, "you're done".

    So now I feel like I've been in a car accident but I don't have any
    rib pain any more. Just some very sore muscles. I just hope I heal up
    enough by Saturday that pain won't be an issue. Oh, and, he told me to
    start doing high pulls. I guess that gives me an excuse to buy more
    bumpers:-)

    Guy sounds like a quack. Strong SOB, but a quack nonetheless.


    On the contrary, the tissues on my upper back are sore as hell but
    everything feels like it's in place for the first time in a year and a
    half. I spent more than a dozen sessions with my last chiro and I
    could never say that. Plus, other powerlifters I know swear by him.
    But, you're right, he is strong as hell. So strong that I thought
    that spot he was putting pressure on was going to snap...I guess it
    did but upwards where it belongs.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>, John Hanson

    Quoted message said:

    The pain in my upper back is so bad now that 135 hurts and it doesn't
    let up during the squat. So, I went to a new chiropractor today. He's
    Dr. Fred Clary who also set a few world records in the APF as a
    teenage (793 deadlift at 275 was one). Anywho, he tells me I have a
    rib overlapping another and a disk out of place. He asks me when my
    next meet is and I tell him I'm flying out early Friday. He asks me if
    I expect him to walk on water.

    So, he says he's going to be pretty rough on me today. He wasn't
    kidding. I've never experiences so much pain for so long before. He
    kept putting pressure on the spot I get the pain from for what seemed
    like 10 minutes and he was pushing hard. Then he quickly placed his
    other hand on my spine and cracks my back in such a way I feel it
    throughout my back. He does the same thing in a little different spot
    and then wammo, my whole back explodes again. He cracked my back once
    more and then put my neck through it's paces, cracking it twice. The
    last time he yells, "there it is!" and says that's enough. Then tells
    me he wants to see me this afternoon.

    I went back for more punishment this afternoon. He had my lay on my
    belly and put heat on my upper back and neck for about 10 minutes. He
    then came back and crunched my back and neck about 4 or 5 times within
    about 10 seconds and said, "you're done".

    So now I feel like I've been in a car accident but I don't have any
    rib pain any more. Just some very sore muscles. I just hope I heal up
    enough by Saturday that pain won't be an issue. Oh, and, he told me to
    start doing high pulls. I guess that gives me an excuse to buy more
    bumpers:-)

    Always a good thing...

    :^)

    Good luck in the meet John.

    --
    Keith

  5. Yo, fat boy,
    I am an expert on chiropractors, and this guy is a quack and a jerk.
    Saturday you will get creamed because this dork F'ed you up. I
    guarantee it. Find a qualified chiropractor, not a quackopractor. Good
    chiropractory does not hurt.

    John Hanson said:

    On Wed, 18 May 2005 22:00:06 -0500, "Jim R." <mmm...nah> wrote in
    misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:


    "John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The pain in my upper back is so bad now that 135 hurts and it


    doesn't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    let up during the squat. So, I went to a new chiropractor today.


    He's

    Quoted message said:
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    Quoted message said:

    Dr. Fred Clary who also set a few world records in the APF as a
    teenage (793 deadlift at 275 was one). Anywho, he tells me I have


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    rib overlapping another and a disk out of place. He asks me when


    my

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    Quoted message said:

    next meet is and I tell him I'm flying out early Friday. He asks


    me if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I expect him to walk on water.

    So, he says he's going to be pretty rough on me today. He wasn't
    kidding. I've never experiences so much pain for so long before.


    He

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    kept putting pressure on the spot I get the pain from for what


    seemed

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    Quoted message said:

    like 10 minutes and he was pushing hard. Then he quickly placed


    his

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    other hand on my spine and cracks my back in such a way I feel it
    throughout my back. He does the same thing in a little different


    spot

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and then wammo, my whole back explodes again. He cracked my back


    once

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    Quoted message said:

    more and then put my neck through it's paces, cracking it twice.


    The

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    Quoted message said:

    last time he yells, "there it is!" and says that's enough. Then


    tells

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    Quoted message said:

    me he wants to see me this afternoon.

    I went back for more punishment this afternoon. He had my lay on


    my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    belly and put heat on my upper back and neck for about 10 minutes.


    He

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    then came back and crunched my back and neck about 4 or 5 times


    within

    Quoted message said:
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    about 10 seconds and said, "you're done".

    So now I feel like I've been in a car accident but I don't have


    any

    Quoted message said:
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    Quoted message said:

    rib pain any more. Just some very sore muscles. I just hope I heal


    up

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    Quoted message said:

    enough by Saturday that pain won't be an issue. Oh, and, he told


    me to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    start doing high pulls. I guess that gives me an excuse to buy


    more

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    bumpers:-)

    Guy sounds like a quack. Strong SOB, but a quack nonetheless.


    On the contrary, the tissues on my upper back are sore as hell but
    everything feels like it's in place for the first time in a year and


    a

    Quoted message said:

    half. I spent more than a dozen sessions with my last chiro and I
    could never say that. Plus, other powerlifters I know swear by him.
    But, you're right, he is strong as hell. So strong that I thought
    that spot he was putting pressure on was going to snap...I guess it
    did but upwards where it belongs.

  6. John Hanson said:

    The pain in my upper back is so bad now that 135 hurts and it doesn't
    let up during the squat. So, I went to a new chiropractor today. He's
    Dr. Fred Clary who also set a few world records in the APF as a
    teenage (793 deadlift at 275 was one). Anywho, he tells me I have a
    rib overlapping another and a disk out of place. He asks me when my
    next meet is and I tell him I'm flying out early Friday. He asks me if
    I expect him to walk on water.

    So, he says he's going to be pretty rough on me today. He wasn't
    kidding. I've never experiences so much pain for so long before. He
    kept putting pressure on the spot I get the pain from for what seemed
    like 10 minutes and he was pushing hard. Then he quickly placed his
    other hand on my spine and cracks my back in such a way I feel it
    throughout my back. He does the same thing in a little different spot
    and then wammo, my whole back explodes again. He cracked my back once
    more and then put my neck through it's paces, cracking it twice. The
    last time he yells, "there it is!" and says that's enough. Then tells
    me he wants to see me this afternoon.

    I went back for more punishment this afternoon. He had my lay on my
    belly and put heat on my upper back and neck for about 10 minutes. He
    then came back and crunched my back and neck about 4 or 5 times within
    about 10 seconds and said, "you're done".

    So now I feel like I've been in a car accident but I don't have any
    rib pain any more. Just some very sore muscles. I just hope I heal up
    enough by Saturday that pain won't be an issue. Oh, and, he told me to
    start doing high pulls. I guess that gives me an excuse to buy more
    bumpers:-)

    This sounds a bit like Mistress Krista's story in her rant of the month.
    I tend to avoid that sort of pain. My mother's a neuromuscular
    massage therapist and it hurts so bad every time she tries to "align" me
    that I decided I prefer being non-aligned. (There's a political joke in
    there somewhere.)

    Why do you suppose chiro works? I'm considering doing some accupuncture
    to release the "chi" and get the healing flow going towards some
    tendonitis that just isn't healing some two years after it cropped up.
    It pisses me off that my friends says this works, because I can't spot
    chi and strongly suspect it's all whooey when they claim to unblock it.

    What do you think?

    Delenn

  7. On Wed, 18 May 2005 21:31:22 -0600, [email hidden] (Hobbes) wrote
    in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, John Hanson

    Quoted message said:

    The pain in my upper back is so bad now that 135 hurts and it doesn't
    let up during the squat. So, I went to a new chiropractor today. He's
    Dr. Fred Clary who also set a few world records in the APF as a
    teenage (793 deadlift at 275 was one). Anywho, he tells me I have a
    rib overlapping another and a disk out of place. He asks me when my
    next meet is and I tell him I'm flying out early Friday. He asks me if
    I expect him to walk on water.

    So, he says he's going to be pretty rough on me today. He wasn't
    kidding. I've never experiences so much pain for so long before. He
    kept putting pressure on the spot I get the pain from for what seemed
    like 10 minutes and he was pushing hard. Then he quickly placed his
    other hand on my spine and cracks my back in such a way I feel it
    throughout my back. He does the same thing in a little different spot
    and then wammo, my whole back explodes again. He cracked my back once
    more and then put my neck through it's paces, cracking it twice. The
    last time he yells, "there it is!" and says that's enough. Then tells
    me he wants to see me this afternoon.

    I went back for more punishment this afternoon. He had my lay on my
    belly and put heat on my upper back and neck for about 10 minutes. He
    then came back and crunched my back and neck about 4 or 5 times within
    about 10 seconds and said, "you're done".

    So now I feel like I've been in a car accident but I don't have any
    rib pain any more. Just some very sore muscles. I just hope I heal up
    enough by Saturday that pain won't be an issue. Oh, and, he told me to
    start doing high pulls. I guess that gives me an excuse to buy more
    bumpers:-)

    Always a good thing...

    Yes, yes it is! What he actually said was to stop doing those
    routines in PLUSA like the ones that having me do rows and do high
    pulls instead, which I thought was hilarious considering we usually
    say that here about the fitness rags. Anywho, he said I need to train
    for my body and my upper back needs high pulls!

    Quoted message said:


    :^)

    Good luck in the meet John.

    Thanks, Keith!

  8. John Hanson said:

    What do I think? My last chiro was recommended to me by a training
    partner. I used him and never experienced one bit of pain during the
    treatments. But, he never really helped me either. When I went to
    the gym tonight and told Ron I went to Dr. Fred, he said that he went
    to him once and was nearly on the ceiling from the pain. But, he
    fixed his leg problem in one session.

    I'll take 10 minutes of torture to put bones back in place that were
    seriously out of place any day. Besides, the follow up session this
    afternoon wasn't more than 10 seconds (and really not painful like the
    morning) if you don't count the 10 minutes of heat. Besides, the
    afternoon session was nothing when compared to unracking (and
    reracking...that's even more painful when the weight comes off) a
    barbell...something I do at least a half a dozen times a week.

    Glad it's working for you. I just wish I understood WHY it works.

    Good luck in your meet.

    D./G./whoever the hell I am this week

  9. On Wed, 18 May 2005 23:40:05 -0400, Delenn <[email hidden]> wrote
    in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:
    John Hanson said:

    The pain in my upper back is so bad now that 135 hurts and it doesn't
    let up during the squat. So, I went to a new chiropractor today. He's
    Dr. Fred Clary who also set a few world records in the APF as a
    teenage (793 deadlift at 275 was one). Anywho, he tells me I have a
    rib overlapping another and a disk out of place. He asks me when my
    next meet is and I tell him I'm flying out early Friday. He asks me if
    I expect him to walk on water.

    So, he says he's going to be pretty rough on me today. He wasn't
    kidding. I've never experiences so much pain for so long before. He
    kept putting pressure on the spot I get the pain from for what seemed
    like 10 minutes and he was pushing hard. Then he quickly placed his
    other hand on my spine and cracks my back in such a way I feel it
    throughout my back. He does the same thing in a little different spot
    and then wammo, my whole back explodes again. He cracked my back once
    more and then put my neck through it's paces, cracking it twice. The
    last time he yells, "there it is!" and says that's enough. Then tells
    me he wants to see me this afternoon.

    I went back for more punishment this afternoon. He had my lay on my
    belly and put heat on my upper back and neck for about 10 minutes. He
    then came back and crunched my back and neck about 4 or 5 times within
    about 10 seconds and said, "you're done".

    So now I feel like I've been in a car accident but I don't have any
    rib pain any more. Just some very sore muscles. I just hope I heal up
    enough by Saturday that pain won't be an issue. Oh, and, he told me to
    start doing high pulls. I guess that gives me an excuse to buy more
    bumpers:-)

    This sounds a bit like Mistress Krista's story in her rant of the month.
    I tend to avoid that sort of pain. My mother's a neuromuscular
    massage therapist and it hurts so bad every time she tries to "align" me
    that I decided I prefer being non-aligned. (There's a political joke in
    there somewhere.)

    Why do you suppose chiro works? I'm considering doing some accupuncture
    to release the "chi" and get the healing flow going towards some
    tendonitis that just isn't healing some two years after it cropped up.
    It pisses me off that my friends says this works, because I can't spot
    chi and strongly suspect it's all whooey when they claim to unblock it.

    What do you think?


    What do I think? My last chiro was recommended to me by a training
    partner. I used him and never experienced one bit of pain during the
    treatments. But, he never really helped me either. When I went to
    the gym tonight and told Ron I went to Dr. Fred, he said that he went
    to him once and was nearly on the ceiling from the pain. But, he
    fixed his leg problem in one session.

    I'll take 10 minutes of torture to put bones back in place that were
    seriously out of place any day. Besides, the follow up session this
    afternoon wasn't more than 10 seconds (and really not painful like the
    morning) if you don't count the 10 minutes of heat. Besides, the
    afternoon session was nothing when compared to unracking (and
    reracking...that's even more painful when the weight comes off) a
    barbell...something I do at least a half a dozen times a week.

  10. Delenn said:
    John Hanson said:

    The pain in my upper back is so bad now that 135 hurts and it doesn't
    let up during the squat. So, I went to a new chiropractor today. He's
    Dr. Fred Clary who also set a few world records in the APF as a
    teenage (793 deadlift at 275 was one). Anywho, he tells me I have a
    rib overlapping another and a disk out of place. He asks me when my
    next meet is and I tell him I'm flying out early Friday. He asks me
    if I expect him to walk on water.

    So, he says he's going to be pretty rough on me today. He wasn't
    kidding. I've never experiences so much pain for so long before. He
    kept putting pressure on the spot I get the pain from for what seemed
    like 10 minutes and he was pushing hard. Then he quickly placed his
    other hand on my spine and cracks my back in such a way I feel it
    throughout my back. He does the same thing in a little different spot
    and then wammo, my whole back explodes again. He cracked my back once
    more and then put my neck through it's paces, cracking it twice. The
    last time he yells, "there it is!" and says that's enough. Then tells
    me he wants to see me this afternoon.

    I went back for more punishment this afternoon. He had my lay on my
    belly and put heat on my upper back and neck for about 10 minutes. He
    then came back and crunched my back and neck about 4 or 5 times
    within about 10 seconds and said, "you're done".

    So now I feel like I've been in a car accident but I don't have any
    rib pain any more. Just some very sore muscles. I just hope I heal up
    enough by Saturday that pain won't be an issue. Oh, and, he told me
    to start doing high pulls. I guess that gives me an excuse to buy
    more bumpers:-)

    This sounds a bit like Mistress Krista's story in her rant of the
    month. I tend to avoid that sort of pain. My mother's a
    neuromuscular massage therapist and it hurts so bad every time she tries
    to "align"
    me that I decided I prefer being non-aligned. (There's a political
    joke in there somewhere.)

    Why do you suppose chiro works? I'm considering doing some
    accupuncture to release the "chi" and get the healing flow going
    towards some tendonitis that just isn't healing some two years after
    it cropped up. It pisses me off that my friends says this works,
    because I can't spot chi and strongly suspect it's all whooey when
    they claim to unblock it.
    What do you think?

    Delenn

    May the force be with you.

    Sorry...just couldn't resist. 🙂
    --
    -Larry

  11. Larry Hodges said:

    May the force be with you.

    Sorry...just couldn't resist. 🙂

    I'll have you know that I'm not geeky enough to be in the movie theater
    at midnight for the opening of Episode III.

    Ignore the fact that I'm on usenet. I'm cool, I tell you, COOL!

    (Okay, I confess, the only reasons I'm not at the movies right now is
    that a kid has a huge standardized test tomorrow, plus I'm worried
    losing that much sleep will hurt my triathlon training.)

    What about you: are you going to see it?

    Delenn

  12. On Wed, 18 May 2005 23:56:40 -0400, Delenn <[email hidden]> wrote
    in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:
    John Hanson said:

    What do I think? My last chiro was recommended to me by a training
    partner. I used him and never experienced one bit of pain during the
    treatments. But, he never really helped me either. When I went to
    the gym tonight and told Ron I went to Dr. Fred, he said that he went
    to him once and was nearly on the ceiling from the pain. But, he
    fixed his leg problem in one session.

    I'll take 10 minutes of torture to put bones back in place that were
    seriously out of place any day. Besides, the follow up session this
    afternoon wasn't more than 10 seconds (and really not painful like the
    morning) if you don't count the 10 minutes of heat. Besides, the
    afternoon session was nothing when compared to unracking (and
    reracking...that's even more painful when the weight comes off) a
    barbell...something I do at least a half a dozen times a week.

    Glad it's working for you. I just wish I understood WHY it works.

    I'm still speculating that everything is good to go now as I'm pretty
    sore but, I had one of those back rib thingies pushed down on top of
    another rib as well as a disk that was out of place. This was stuck
    there so he needed to move all of those things back to where God
    intended them to be. Plus, he needed to do this all at once because I
    have a meet this weekend. So, being the fellow powerlifter that he
    is, he obliged me by giving me the "emergency" treatment. He put
    everything back in place, the pain be damned...I've got a meet.

    Quoted message said:


    Good luck in your meet.

    D./G./whoever the hell I am this week

    Thanks, W!

    BTW, he insists he sees me as soon as I come back. I think he
    suspects what I suspect in that I'm probably going to dislocate those
    ribs again this weekend. Go heavy or go home. Hehe.

  13. On Wed, 18 May 2005 21:01:26 -0700, "Larry Hodges"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:
    Delenn said:
    John Hanson said:

    The pain in my upper back is so bad now that 135 hurts and it doesn't
    let up during the squat. So, I went to a new chiropractor today. He's
    Dr. Fred Clary who also set a few world records in the APF as a
    teenage (793 deadlift at 275 was one). Anywho, he tells me I have a
    rib overlapping another and a disk out of place. He asks me when my
    next meet is and I tell him I'm flying out early Friday. He asks me
    if I expect him to walk on water.

    So, he says he's going to be pretty rough on me today. He wasn't
    kidding. I've never experiences so much pain for so long before. He
    kept putting pressure on the spot I get the pain from for what seemed
    like 10 minutes and he was pushing hard. Then he quickly placed his
    other hand on my spine and cracks my back in such a way I feel it
    throughout my back. He does the same thing in a little different spot
    and then wammo, my whole back explodes again. He cracked my back once
    more and then put my neck through it's paces, cracking it twice. The
    last time he yells, "there it is!" and says that's enough. Then tells
    me he wants to see me this afternoon.

    I went back for more punishment this afternoon. He had my lay on my
    belly and put heat on my upper back and neck for about 10 minutes. He
    then came back and crunched my back and neck about 4 or 5 times
    within about 10 seconds and said, "you're done".

    So now I feel like I've been in a car accident but I don't have any
    rib pain any more. Just some very sore muscles. I just hope I heal up
    enough by Saturday that pain won't be an issue. Oh, and, he told me
    to start doing high pulls. I guess that gives me an excuse to buy
    more bumpers:-)

    This sounds a bit like Mistress Krista's story in her rant of the
    month. I tend to avoid that sort of pain. My mother's a
    neuromuscular massage therapist and it hurts so bad every time she tries
    to "align"
    me that I decided I prefer being non-aligned. (There's a political
    joke in there somewhere.)

    Why do you suppose chiro works? I'm considering doing some
    accupuncture to release the "chi" and get the healing flow going
    towards some tendonitis that just isn't healing some two years after
    it cropped up. It pisses me off that my friends says this works,
    because I can't spot chi and strongly suspect it's all whooey when
    they claim to unblock it.
    What do you think?

    Delenn

    May the force be with you.

    Sorry...just couldn't resist. 🙂

    Hehe. Thanks!

  14. John Hanson said:

    On Wed, 18 May 2005 23:56:40 -0400, Delenn <[email hidden]> wrote
    in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    Good luck in your meet.

    D./G./whoever the hell I am this week

    Thanks, W!

    Yo. :-)

    Quoted message said:

    BTW, he insists he sees me as soon as I come back. I think he
    suspects what I suspect in that I'm probably going to dislocate those
    ribs again this weekend. Go heavy or go home. Hehe.

    How about "go heavy AND go home." In one piece, preferably not in a
    body bag. Then it's all good.

    (But maybe I'm ascribing to you my own triathlon goals, which mostly
    revolve around attempting to survive.)

    Delenn

  15. Delenn said:
    Larry Hodges said:

    May the force be with you.

    Sorry...just couldn't resist. 🙂

    I'll have you know that I'm not geeky enough to be in the movie
    theater at midnight for the opening of Episode III.

    Ignore the fact that I'm on usenet. I'm cool, I tell you, COOL!

    (Okay, I confess, the only reasons I'm not at the movies right now is
    that a kid has a huge standardized test tomorrow, plus I'm worried
    losing that much sleep will hurt my triathlon training.)

    What about you: are you going to see it?

    Delenn

    Nah. I'll wait a week or two. I like Star Wars, but fell asleep in Episode
    2. That was the crappiest of the Star Wars movies. It just didn't seem to
    have a plot. Or maybe it was that everything kind of blended together.
    Whatever...it sucked.
    --
    -Larry

  16. John Hanson said:

    On Wed, 18 May 2005 21:01:26 -0700, "Larry Hodges"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:
    Delenn said:

    John Hanson wrote:
    > The pain in my upper back is so bad now that 135 hurts and it
    > doesn't let up during the squat. So, I went to a new chiropractor
    > today. He's Dr. Fred Clary who also set a few world records in the
    > APF as a teenage (793 deadlift at 275 was one). Anywho, he tells
    > me I have a rib overlapping another and a disk out of place. He
    > asks me when my next meet is and I tell him I'm flying out early
    > Friday. He asks me if I expect him to walk on water.
    >
    > So, he says he's going to be pretty rough on me today. He wasn't
    > kidding. I've never experiences so much pain for so long before. He
    > kept putting pressure on the spot I get the pain from for what
    > seemed like 10 minutes and he was pushing hard. Then he quickly
    > placed his other hand on my spine and cracks my back in such a way
    > I feel it throughout my back. He does the same thing in a little
    > different spot and then wammo, my whole back explodes again. He
    > cracked my back once more and then put my neck through it's paces,
    > cracking it twice. The last time he yells, "there it is!" and says
    > that's enough. Then tells me he wants to see me this afternoon.
    >
    > I went back for more punishment this afternoon. He had my lay on my
    > belly and put heat on my upper back and neck for about 10 minutes.
    > He then came back and crunched my back and neck about 4 or 5 times
    > within about 10 seconds and said, "you're done".
    >
    > So now I feel like I've been in a car accident but I don't have any
    > rib pain any more. Just some very sore muscles. I just hope I heal
    > up enough by Saturday that pain won't be an issue. Oh, and, he
    > told me to start doing high pulls. I guess that gives me an excuse
    > to buy more bumpers:-)

    This sounds a bit like Mistress Krista's story in her rant of the
    month. I tend to avoid that sort of pain. My mother's a
    neuromuscular massage therapist and it hurts so bad every time she
    tries to "align"
    me that I decided I prefer being non-aligned. (There's a political
    joke in there somewhere.)

    Why do you suppose chiro works? I'm considering doing some
    accupuncture to release the "chi" and get the healing flow going
    towards some tendonitis that just isn't healing some two years after
    it cropped up. It pisses me off that my friends says this works,
    because I can't spot chi and strongly suspect it's all whooey when
    they claim to unblock it.
    What do you think?

    Delenn

    May the force be with you.

    Sorry...just couldn't resist. 🙂

    Hehe. Thanks!

    🙂

    Hope the new chiro helps John. And good luck at the meet Saturday.
    --
    -Larry

  17. On Thu, 19 May 2005 00:13:49 -0400, Delenn <[email hidden]> wrote
    in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:
    John Hanson said:

    On Wed, 18 May 2005 23:56:40 -0400, Delenn <[email hidden]> wrote
    in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    Good luck in your meet.

    D./G./whoever the hell I am this week

    Thanks, W!

    Yo. :-)

    Quoted message said:

    BTW, he insists he sees me as soon as I come back. I think he
    suspects what I suspect in that I'm probably going to dislocate those
    ribs again this weekend. Go heavy or go home. Hehe.

    How about "go heavy AND go home." In one piece, preferably not in a
    body bag. Then it's all good.

    (But maybe I'm ascribing to you my own triathlon goals, which mostly
    revolve around attempting to survive.)


    We didn't even address my shoulder much except that I thought it was
    at about 90% right now. So basically, I'm handicapped in every single
    lift. But, I'm more worried about an earthquake causing me to hitch a
    deadlift than me doing major harm to my body by competing.

  18. Delenn said:
    John Hanson said:

    The pain in my upper back is so bad now that 135 hurts and it doesn't
    let up during the squat. So, I went to a new chiropractor today. He's
    Dr. Fred Clary who also set a few world records in the APF as a
    teenage (793 deadlift at 275 was one). Anywho, he tells me I have a
    rib overlapping another and a disk out of place. He asks me when my
    next meet is and I tell him I'm flying out early Friday. He asks me if
    I expect him to walk on water.

    So, he says he's going to be pretty rough on me today. He wasn't
    kidding. I've never experiences so much pain for so long before. He
    kept putting pressure on the spot I get the pain from for what seemed
    like 10 minutes and he was pushing hard. Then he quickly placed his
    other hand on my spine and cracks my back in such a way I feel it
    throughout my back. He does the same thing in a little different spot
    and then wammo, my whole back explodes again. He cracked my back once
    more and then put my neck through it's paces, cracking it twice. The
    last time he yells, "there it is!" and says that's enough. Then tells
    me he wants to see me this afternoon.

    I went back for more punishment this afternoon. He had my lay on my
    belly and put heat on my upper back and neck for about 10 minutes. He
    then came back and crunched my back and neck about 4 or 5 times within
    about 10 seconds and said, "you're done".

    So now I feel like I've been in a car accident but I don't have any
    rib pain any more. Just some very sore muscles. I just hope I heal up
    enough by Saturday that pain won't be an issue. Oh, and, he told me to
    start doing high pulls. I guess that gives me an excuse to buy more
    bumpers:-)

    This sounds a bit like Mistress Krista's story in her rant of the month.
    I tend to avoid that sort of pain. My mother's a neuromuscular
    massage therapist and it hurts so bad every time she tries to "align" me
    that I decided I prefer being non-aligned. (There's a political joke in
    there somewhere.)

    Why do you suppose chiro works? I'm considering doing some accupuncture
    to release the "chi" and get the healing flow going towards some
    tendonitis that just isn't healing some two years after it cropped up.
    It pisses me off that my friends says this works, because I can't spot
    chi and strongly suspect it's all whooey when they claim to unblock it.

    What do you think?

    I think your friends would also adore the King's (or was it the
    Emperor's) new clothes as told by HCA!!

    As Danny Kaye sang so wonderfully:

    Look at the King, the King, the King, the King, the King,
    The King was in the altogether......

  19. John Hanson said:

    On Wed, 18 May 2005 23:56:40 -0400, Delenn <[email hidden]> wrote
    in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:
    John Hanson said:

    What do I think? My last chiro was recommended to me by a training
    partner. I used him and never experienced one bit of pain during the
    treatments. But, he never really helped me either. When I went to
    the gym tonight and told Ron I went to Dr. Fred, he said that he went
    to him once and was nearly on the ceiling from the pain. But, he
    fixed his leg problem in one session.

    I'll take 10 minutes of torture to put bones back in place that were
    seriously out of place any day. Besides, the follow up session this
    afternoon wasn't more than 10 seconds (and really not painful like the
    morning) if you don't count the 10 minutes of heat. Besides, the
    afternoon session was nothing when compared to unracking (and
    reracking...that's even more painful when the weight comes off) a
    barbell...something I do at least a half a dozen times a week.

    Glad it's working for you. I just wish I understood WHY it works.

    I'm still speculating that everything is good to go now as I'm pretty
    sore but, I had one of those back rib thingies pushed down on top of
    another rib as well as a disk that was out of place. This was stuck
    there so he needed to move all of those things back to where God
    intended them to be. Plus, he needed to do this all at once because I
    have a meet this weekend. So, being the fellow powerlifter that he
    is, he obliged me by giving me the "emergency" treatment. He put
    everything back in place, the pain be damned...I've got a meet.

    Quoted message said:


    Good luck in your meet.

    D./G./whoever the hell I am this week

    Thanks, W!

    BTW, he insists he sees me as soon as I come back. I think he
    suspects what I suspect in that I'm probably going to dislocate those
    ribs again this weekend. Go heavy or go home. Hehe.

    [censored] or bust JH - go for it!!

    I hope you have a successful meet!! ;o)

  20. Larry Hodges said:
    Delenn said:
    Larry Hodges said:

    May the force be with you.

    Sorry...just couldn't resist. 🙂

    I'll have you know that I'm not geeky enough to be in the movie
    theater at midnight for the opening of Episode III.

    Ignore the fact that I'm on usenet. I'm cool, I tell you, COOL!

    (Okay, I confess, the only reasons I'm not at the movies right now is
    that a kid has a huge standardized test tomorrow, plus I'm worried
    losing that much sleep will hurt my triathlon training.)

    What about you: are you going to see it?

    Delenn

    Nah. I'll wait a week or two. I like Star Wars, but fell asleep in Episode
    2. That was the crappiest of the Star Wars movies. It just didn't seem to
    have a plot. Or maybe it was that everything kind of blended together.
    Whatever...it sucked.

    It really is a time for decisions, whether to queue to see the new
    film or sit at home in the study and watch the grass grow.

    I think on my skimpy knowledge of the past Star War 'fillems' that the
    "grass" will win hands down!! ;o)

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