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"Mark McArthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well, Easter went well except for having to dig through the "buffet" in
order to find something to eat.

Oh my the inhumanity of it all....how you must have suffered

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Luckily my family is big on polish sausage and ham. Someone had made an
'egg bake'.. usually eggs, sausage, cheese. Unfortunately the creator had
put mashed potatoes in it as well. I didn't realize it until after I had
eaten it and they were sharing the recipe. When I mentioned that I hope I
didn't screw myself my sister-in-law stated, 'Well, you don't have to be
fanatical about it'. I'm not sure how to take that.

Learn to keep your trap shut..... A spoonful of potatoes will not cause any
long term harm to any diet.

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Although, she shortly complained that she ate too much and her stomach
hurt. I appreciate her sharing that since it helped me figure out how to
take her advice.
Mark

BTW, it didn't drop me out of ketosis. 🙂

Once people simply learn calories in pounds out...the little stuff will no
longer bother them...being a offensive jerk will not actually help with
weight loss unless those whom actually go to the work of preparing the food
choose to throw it at you instead of letting you eat it.

Soggy

Mark McArthey said:

Well, Easter went well except for having to dig through the "buffet" in
order to find something to eat. Luckily my family is big on polish
sausage and ham. Someone had made an 'egg bake'.. usually eggs,
sausage, cheese. Unfortunately the creator had put mashed potatoes in
it as well. I didn't realize it until after I had eaten it and they
were sharing the recipe. When I mentioned that I hope I didn't screw
myself my sister-in-law stated, 'Well, you don't have to be fanatical
about it'. I'm not sure how to take that.

I agree with your sister-in-law. Your vocabulary word for the day is
"self-aggrandizing".

KeS

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Mark McArthey said:

Well, Easter went well except for having to dig through the "buffet" in
order to find something to eat. Luckily my family is big on polish
sausage and ham. Someone had made an 'egg bake'.. usually eggs,
sausage, cheese. Unfortunately the creator had put mashed potatoes in
it as well. I didn't realize it until after I had eaten it and they
were sharing the recipe. When I mentioned that I hope I didn't screw
myself my sister-in-law stated, 'Well, you don't have to be fanatical
about it'. I'm not sure how to take that.

I agree with your sister-in-law. Your vocabulary word for the day is
"self-aggrandizing".

KeS

I disagree. Some people need to be fanatical about weight loss.

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Bob in CT

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I agree with your sister-in-law. Your vocabulary word for the day is
"self-aggrandizing".

Your word of the day should be "pompous". I'm certain your statement
wasn't meant to exhibit any sort of self-importance... was it?
Also, I'm not sure how an off-hand comment about "oops, potatoes" could
have been construed as fanaticism. I certainly don't obsess about these
sorts of things, unlike some I'm aware of here. I merely meant to share
a humorous story.
Mark

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Well, Easter went well except for having to dig through the "buffet" in
order to find something to eat.

Oh my the inhumanity of it all....how you must have suffered

I don't believe I mentioned that I suffered. We can all relate to a
large spread of food of which none is low-carb.

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Luckily my family is big on polish sausage and ham. Someone had made an
'egg bake'.. usually eggs, sausage, cheese. Unfortunately the creator had
put mashed potatoes in it as well. I didn't realize it until after I had
eaten it and they were sharing the recipe. When I mentioned that I hope I
didn't screw myself my sister-in-law stated, 'Well, you don't have to be
fanatical about it'. I'm not sure how to take that.

Learn to keep your trap shut..... A spoonful of potatoes will not cause any
long term harm to any diet.

How eloquently stated. I guess fanaticism runs in all circles.

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Although, she shortly complained that she ate too much and her stomach
hurt. I appreciate her sharing that since it helped me figure out how to
take her advice.
Mark

BTW, it didn't drop me out of ketosis. 🙂

Once people simply learn calories in pounds out...the little stuff will no
longer bother them...being a offensive jerk will not actually help with
weight loss unless those whom actually go to the work of preparing the food
choose to throw it at you instead of letting you eat it.

So calories make you gain weight? Thanks for the insight. I apologize
for wasting our time with this, apparently, non-humorous story. Please
refrain from any further time spent responding. You'll receive your
check in the mail.

Mark

"Bob M"

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I disagree. Some people need to be fanatical about weight loss.
Bob in CT

But not publicly.....In a group environment making a big production about
how you can't eat what they fixed serves only your own ego......I shared a
dinner with my Sister and Dad a while back, I just happened to bring 4
dishes, all SB friendly. My family ate heartily and just nibbled on the carb
offerings....no production no theatrics, no hurt feelings and no blown diet.
Soggy

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BTW, it didn't drop me out of ketosis. 🙂

YAY!!!! Maybe it didn't have as much potato as you thought.
Especially if you didn't taste it.

Thanks, at least one person got the idea behind my story. I thought it was
funny that she was complaining about herself getting fat, my "fanatical"
diet, and the fact that it didn't affect my diet in the long-run. I'm still
learning what I can eat, and can't.

Mark

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"Bob M"

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I disagree. Some people need to be fanatical about weight loss.
Bob in CT

But not publicly.....In a group environment making a big production about
how you can't eat what they fixed serves only your own ego......I shared
a
dinner with my Sister and Dad a while back, I just happened to bring 4
dishes, all SB friendly. My family ate heartily and just nibbled on the
carb
offerings....no production no theatrics, no hurt feelings and no blown
diet.
Soggy

No, I think sometimes publically is necessary. It's not as if he said
"you're scum for bring a dish that had hidden carbs!" All he said was
that he hoped he didn't blow his diet. If someone required something from
me, I would be amenable to give it to them.

--
Bob in CT

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"Bob M"

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I disagree. Some people need to be fanatical about weight loss.
Bob in CT

But not publicly.....In a group environment making a big production about
how you can't eat what they fixed serves only your own ego......I shared a
dinner with my Sister and Dad a while back, I just happened to bring 4
dishes, all SB friendly. My family ate heartily and just nibbled on the
carb offerings....no production no theatrics, no hurt feelings and no
blown diet.

There seems to be a misunderstanding that I somehow stood up on the table
and announced that "I HAVE EATEN SOME POTATOES!"
Hardly.
My wife was standing next to me, and I directed the comment towards her. I
then explained to my sister-in-law that there are some foods that I stricly
try to avoid, namely potatoes, rice, and bread. She was aware of my diet,
so it shouldn't be a shock. I don't believe feelings were hurt. Her
comment to me didn't seem rude, either. I was focused on the word "fanatic"
and thought it was funny.
I'm sure she'll appreciate hearing that you defended her.
Mark

"Mark McArthey"

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I'm sure she'll appreciate hearing that you defended her.
Mark

Sorry about sounding so harsh or for possibly taking your comments out of
context.....it just happens to be one of my pet peeves (I may have
several)......as one whom may spend 3 hard days doing a big family dinner I
don't take well to those whom stand on the sidelines (those that help get
more leeway<G>😉 nit picking about what they can't or won't eat.....kind of
like rain at a picnic, its there but not welcome<G>. I could care less if
they don't eat it, I just don't want to hear about. Soggy

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"Mark McArthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well, Easter went well except for having to dig through the "buffet" in
order to find something to eat.

Oh my the inhumanity of it all....how you must have suffered

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Luckily my family is big on polish sausage and ham. Someone had made an
'egg bake'.. usually eggs, sausage, cheese. Unfortunately the creator

had

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put mashed potatoes in it as well. I didn't realize it until after I

had

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eaten it and they were sharing the recipe. When I mentioned that I hope

I

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didn't screw myself my sister-in-law stated, 'Well, you don't have to be
fanatical about it'. I'm not sure how to take that.

Learn to keep your trap shut..... A spoonful of potatoes will not cause

any

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long term harm to any diet.

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Although, she shortly complained that she ate too much and her stomach
hurt. I appreciate her sharing that since it helped me figure out how to
take her advice.
Mark

BTW, it didn't drop me out of ketosis. 🙂

Once people simply learn calories in pounds out...the little stuff will no
longer bother them...being a offensive jerk will not actually help with
weight loss unless those whom actually go to the work of preparing the

food

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choose to throw it at you instead of letting you eat it.

Soggy

I would rather decline an invitation than insult the host. If I must go
to the dinner due to obligation, like Christmas, I just have to take into
consideration that what is served, is what I must eat. Sometimes I get lucky
and there is no problem eating lo-carb at someone's house. Other times, it
ends up being "noodle surprize with french bread".
Most people do not have a good grasp of what lo-carb means. They'll even
tell you that the meal they served was with you in mind, because they knew
you were dieting.
I know that you are taking the view that a person should be grateful for
whatever is served. The problem with being overly social, is that every
gathering is deemed as special, and that a diet should be ignored, so as not
to offend the host or put a damper on the evening.
Peer pressure is one of the main reasons for many diet failures. This
problem has been, and still is a major concern of mine. I do not want to
offend anyone by my choice of menu. I would rather say no to an outing, than
to start an argument about what is being served and why I can't( or won't)
eat it. There are too many situations out there that require a person to
keep saying no.
I also get annoyed by people that push the point at social gatherings,
that you should not be eating lo-carb, because it is bad for you. I never
start it, but I feel obligated to defend my diet when prodded. Because of
this, I am also called fanatical. I am not forcing anyone to eat lo-carb.
Who is the fanatic? It's some kind of cruel joke, in my opinion, to sneak in
some potatoes in a dish if you know that a person wouldn't normally eat them
on lo-carb.
This is why I would rather avoid "supper" social gatherings.

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......as one whom may spend 3 hard days doing a big family dinner I don't
take well to those whom stand on the sidelines (those that help get more
leeway<G>😉 nit picking about what they can't or won't eat.

I can relate. I have some *very* picky eaters in my extended family and I
have to grit my teeth and smile when the first words out of their mouths are
"Is *that* what we're having?" Frozen pizza and fast food has become a
staple in their household because they won't eat much else. My only concern
is their kids because they are surprised when the kids are over and
"actually like" vegetables and such? Scary.
Easter was pot luck, so everyone had a hand. More entertaining that way.
Mark

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When I mentioned that I hope I didn't screw myself my sister-in-law
stated, 'Well, you don't have to be fanatical about it'. I'm not sure how
to take that. Although, she shortly complained that she ate too much and
her stomach hurt. I appreciate her sharing that since it helped me figure
out how to take her advice.

Ha ha ha.

My brother likes to jokingly tell me I'm a health fanatic since he's seen me
losing weight and eating so many veggies and avoiding processed foods and
trans fat. We joke around a lot, though. He's also made it clear that he's
very proud of my progress and self control and how I've worked this into
part of my life. Of course, he's heavier than he's ever been (about 30 lbs
overweight) and keeps talking about how he'd like to drop the weight, he
knows what to do, it's just too difficult because of his family and
financial situation.

Here's a funny story for you... we went to visit and stay with my brother &
his family for Thanksgiving. The day before we arrived, my 5 year old
nephew did something bad and his parents were trying to decide on a
punishment. My brother's idea was to tell him that while his Aunt was
visiting, the boy had to eat at least a bite of everything I ate (my brother
knows I eat veggies with every meal), and he wasn't allowed to eat anything
I didn't eat (no sugar, bread, etc.). Upon hearing this extreme punishment,
my nephew wailed and cried and screamed. He opted instead to give up
playing computer games for an entire week. The boy's mother also felt that
punishment was too harsh. Afterall, we were visiting for an entire 2
nights/3 days.

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"Mark McArthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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When I mentioned that I hope I didn't screw myself my sister-in-law

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stated, 'Well, you don't have to be fanatical about it'. I'm not

sure how

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to take that. Although, she shortly complained that she ate too

much and

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her stomach hurt. I appreciate her sharing that since it helped me

figure

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out how to take her advice.

Ha ha ha.

My brother likes to jokingly tell me I'm a health fanatic since he's

seen me

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losing weight and eating so many veggies and avoiding processed foods

and

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trans fat. We joke around a lot, though. He's also made it clear

that he's

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very proud of my progress and self control and how I've worked this

into

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part of my life. Of course, he's heavier than he's ever been (about

30 lbs

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overweight) and keeps talking about how he'd like to drop the weight,

he

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knows what to do, it's just too difficult because of his family and
financial situation.

It's too difficult to lose weight because of his family? Are they
intentionally accelerating his decrepitude and ultimate demise due to
CHD? He can't afford a can of mackerel or a dozen eggs a day?

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Here's a funny story for you... we went to visit and stay with my

brother &

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his family for Thanksgiving. The day before we arrived, my 5 year

old

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nephew did something bad and his parents were trying to decide on a
punishment. My brother's idea was to tell him that while his Aunt

was

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visiting, the boy had to eat at least a bite of everything I ate (my

brother

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knows I eat veggies with every meal), and he wasn't allowed to eat

anything

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I didn't eat (no sugar, bread, etc.). Upon hearing this extreme

punishment,

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my nephew wailed and cried and screamed. He opted instead to give up

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playing computer games for an entire week. The boy's mother also

felt that

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punishment was too harsh. Afterall, we were visiting for an entire 2

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nights/3 days.

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Spring
LC since 1/1/04
260/197/170

"Before" & "current" pics at link below:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sprgsnow/my_photos

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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:12:14 GMT, "Tom G" <[email hidden]> said :

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I would rather decline an invitation than insult the host.

First, I insult the host, and then decline the invitation. You get the
best of both worlds.

And you'll never be invited again!

:o)

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Rod & Betty Jo said:

Sorry about sounding so harsh or for possibly taking your comments out of
context.....it just happens to be one of my pet peeves (I may have
several)......as one whom may spend 3 hard days doing a big family dinner I
don't take well to those whom stand on the sidelines (those that help get
more leeway<G>😉 nit picking about what they can't or won't eat.....kind of
like rain at a picnic, its there but not welcome<G>. I could care less if
they don't eat it, I just don't want to hear about. Soggy

Gee, when I fix a large meal for family and/or friends, I make sure
there's something there for *everyone* to eat - I've never had a
nitpicker at one of my parties. I always thought that was one of the
points of being a good hostess.

Silly me.

Myra

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Gee, when I fix a large meal for family and/or friends, I make sure
there's something there for *everyone* to eat - I've never had a
nitpicker at one of my parties. I always thought that was one of the
points of being a good hostess.
Silly me.
Myra

It is not a question of having something to eat but rather those few whom
make lots of noise about what they won't eat (acknowledged pet peeve).... My
non diet Easter dinner for 12 included a slow roasted(20hr) apple
juice/maple glazed ham, homemade sourdough bread, herb roasted potatoes,
asparagus, large mixed green salad, humus, mixed bean salad, taboui, mashed
sweet potatoes, roasted carrots, peas with pearl onions with fried eggs for
desert (baked meringue rounds with lemon curd filling)...not a nitpicker in
the group. Soggy

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Sprgtime said:

"Mark McArthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

It's too difficult to lose weight because of his family? Are they
intentionally accelerating his decrepitude and ultimate demise due to
CHD? He can't afford a can of mackerel or a dozen eggs a day?

We've argued about this point ourselves, believe me. The truth is that
eating low carb IS more expensive than what they currently eat (mostly
pasta/white flour/sugar/margarine). Plus then he'd have to buy and prepare
vegetables, and be the only person in the house to eat them. When he works
50 hours a week, as is the usual case, he doesn't want to spend what little
time he has at home with his kids preparing food for himself. He'd love to
get his wife on board (she's heavier than he is, and constantly complaining
about how she can't lose weight) but she won't budge. She's very into
low-fat, and is a picky eater.

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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:36:56 -0500, "Sprgtime" <[email hidden]>

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My brother's idea was to tell him that while his Aunt was
visiting, the boy had to eat at least a bite of everything I ate (my
brother
knows I eat veggies with every meal), and he wasn't allowed to eat
anything
I didn't eat (no sugar, bread, etc.). Upon hearing this extreme
punishment,
my nephew wailed and cried and screamed. He opted instead to give up
playing computer games for an entire week. The boy's mother also felt
that
punishment was too harsh. Afterall, we were visiting for an entire 2
nights/3 days.

actually, that's kind of scary, not amusing. I mean, geez. Using
healthy foods as *punishment*?? ack.

I was thinking about that for a little bit myself. However, I came to the
conclusion that except in extreme cases, I really don't believe that using
food as punishment/reward really has an effect on a kid's healthy eating
habits. It may set up some poor habits, but habits can be broken/replaced.