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  1. Brian Wax said:

    That's cool. Stay well within your limits. If you know what is right for
    you; then most of us in this group would only encourage you.

    What should I pay 3 to 4 times as much for a bike that will be slower
    and less comfortable for the riding I do?

    Besides, Serotte and Colnagi are just ordinary uprights that disappear
    in a crowd. I never have problems identifying which bike is mine from a
    distance at a crowded rest stop. In fact, it is so distinctive, complete
    strangers often address me by name.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Earth (Downstate Illinois, North of Forgottonia)

  2. Brian Wax said:

    Look up the term non sequitur

    That is funny coming from someone who does not quote anything, so no one
    knows what he is talking about.

    Anyhow, you are wrong. John Kerry owning a Serotta was mentioned in the
    thread and referenced article, and that is what the title of thread I
    linked to is about. 😉

    --
    Tom Sherman - Earth (Downstate Illinois, North of Forgottonia)

  3. I do not understand you. Nor do I believe you are trying to dialogue. What
    does haven't to quote anything mean. The thread as I understood it was about
    Serotta making the press--not about John Kerry, his political affiliation or
    any of the hyperbole you directed me to.

    Plonk, kill file.

  4. Funny how you claim not to need the visibility but are the first to claim
    it. You are a contradiction and a nuisance.

  5. Brian Wax said:

    I do not understand you....

    Pay attention.

    Quoted message said:

    Nor do I believe you are trying to dialogue...

    When did "dialogue" become a verb?

    Quoted message said:

    What does haven't to quote anything mean....

    To answer what is trying to be said, it means including the relevant
    portion of the text you are replying to. This is very basic Usenet protocol.

    Quoted message said:

    The thread as I understood it was about
    Serotta making the press--not about John Kerry, his political affiliation or
    any of the hyperbole you directed me to.

    This is Usenet. Learn to deal with it.

    Quoted message said:

    Plonk, kill file.

    Someone is obviously way too thin-skinned to participate in Usenet
    discussion.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Earth (Downstate Illinois, North of Forgottonia)

  6. Brian Wax said:

    Funny how you claim not to need the visibility but are the first to claim
    it.

    Huh? I just spend my money more wisely than those who buy $6,000+
    bicycles do.

    Quoted message said:

    You are a contradiction and a nuisance.

    ROTFLMAO!
    --
    Tom Sherman - Earth (Downstate Illinois, North of Forgottonia)

  7. Brian Wax said:

    Funny how you claim not to need the visibility but are the first to
    claim it. You are a contradiction and a nuisance.

    Dude, for the love of God LEARN HOW TO QUOTE.

    TYVM.

  8. Brian Wax said:

    I do not understand you. Nor do I believe you are trying to dialogue.
    What does haven't to quote anything mean. The thread as I understood
    it was about Serotta making the press--not about John Kerry, his
    political affiliation or any of the hyperbole you directed me to.

    Plonk, kill file.

    Umm, just so you know, on my newsreader your post (above) appeared as a
    reply TO YOURSELF.

    Can't blame you for the plonk therefore, Bill S.

  9. Man I stopped listening to myself when I discovered no one else would
    listen. Then I discovered this NG. I figured that is why we are all here.
    :~)

  10. Thu, 24 Mar 2005 05:07:13 GMT,
    <[email hidden]>,

    Brian Wax said:

    I figured that is why we are all here.

    But some of us aren't here anymore.
    --
    zk

  11. B i l l S o r n s o n said:
    Brian Wax said:

    Funny how you claim not to need the visibility but are the first to
    claim it. You are a contradiction and a nuisance.

    Dude, for the love of God LEARN HOW TO QUOTE.

    TYVM.

    Stop the presses! Mr. Sornson agree with Mr. Sherman about something!

    --
    Tom Sherman - Earth (Downstate Illinois, North of Forgottonia)

  12. "Ken Marcet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    found this on google news, first part mentions John Kerry. I say yeah, but
    you have to be rich like kerry to afford one!
    http://www.usatoday.com/life/lifestyle/2005-03-22-bike-serotta_x.htm

    I mean how many people can really afford to spend 6 grand on a bike?


    Well, how many people can afford to spend 6 grand or more on home theaters?
    Plasma and LCD tvs are selling like hotcakes, and lots of plasmas are more
    than 6 grand. I guess it's about priorities. Compared to a 75K BMW, a 6K
    bike isn't bad at all.

  13. "Peter Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Matt O'Toole said:
    Peter Cole said:

    I know a guy with several. He's just a single professional who


    spends

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    his disposable income on bikes. Of course he's middle-aged,


    overweight

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and a pretty mediocre rider, a fairly typical high-end bike owner.

    To be fair, I know plenty of successful people who are fit and fast


    too. Some

    Quoted message said:

    people just have their [censored] together in general, you know?

    Sure, but there's no correlation, you know what I mean? Actually, I
    think there's a negative correlation in the group I ride with. It seems
    that people are constantly "upgrading" but most are riding less as time
    goes on. I think a common motivation is to get a better bike to
    stimulate more riding and better fitness. It's kind of like people who
    get a dog to lose weight.

    MTB'ers seem to be even worse than roadies for being drawn to bright
    and shiny things. There's not much of the retro-fetishism that plagues
    the road warriors, so newer is always better.

    I am a victim of retro-fetishism. Lugged steel gives me a boner... :-)

  14. David L. Johnson said:


    I use my bike every day, and the car usually on weekends.

    David, is that *bike*, as in singular? You poor guy.

    Quoted message said:

    I ride under all conditions. The only time I would want to take the


    car

    Quoted message said:

    is when it's snowing, or raining (such as today), but those are


    precisely

    Quoted message said:

    the times when there is no place to park. So, I got studded tires,
    fenders, and a decent rain parka.

    There you go, I ride my bike (fenders, studs, etc.) in weather I
    wouldn't drive in.

  15. "Gooserider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Ken Marcet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    found this on google news, first part mentions John Kerry. I say yeah,


    but

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you have to be rich like kerry to afford one!
    http://www.usatoday.com/life/lifestyle/2005-03-22-bike-serotta_x.htm

    I mean how many people can really afford to spend 6 grand on a bike?


    Well, how many people can afford to spend 6 grand or more on home


    theaters?

    Quoted message said:

    Plasma and LCD tvs are selling like hotcakes, and lots of plasmas are more
    than 6 grand. I guess it's about priorities. Compared to a 75K BMW, a 6K
    bike isn't bad at all.


    Well I wouldn't spend 6 g's on a T.V. either! Or 75 on a BMW.
    I am more practical I guess. I like riding my old 75 ish road, I test rode a
    new trek a couple of weeks ago, and didn't notice all that much difference.

    Ken

  16. Matt O'Toole said:

    Also, I think MTB'ing attracts more gearheads -- people
    who are attracted to the gear as much or more than the activity.

    Yeah, it's funny. I do bike patrol at a local park. Frequently when I'm
    there picnicing with my family this guy rolls up, we call him "gear
    man", and always proceeds to talk about all the latest doodads he's
    installed on his & wife's bikes. Of course he's the kind of guy who
    rides full DH kit XC. It never seems to register on him that I show not
    the slightest interest in response, nor that all my stuff is pretty
    dated.

    Recently a guy in my road riding group asked my opinion about new bikes
    since he was in the market. I replied I was the wrong guy to ask since
    I wasn't that into gear. He appeared shocked. The weird thing is that
    we've ridden together for years, think he would have noticed that just
    from the relatively modest components I have. The irony is be that gear
    heads get new [censored] to impress, but everyone's so self-centered they
    don't notice.

  17. Tom Sherman said:
    Brian Wax said:

    Funny how you claim not to need the visibility but are the first to claim
    it.

    Huh? I just spend my money more wisely than those who buy $6,000+
    bicycles do.

    This may be a first, but I'm going to take John Kerry's side against
    Tom Sherman's ridicule of him. ;-)

    If you've got piles of money (and there is no doubt JK does), spending
    $6000 on a bike (even if it's not really "worth it"😉 is still a very
    good investment. Heck, for those of us who actually spend a lot of
    time on our bikes, even if OUR bikes cost that much they'd STILL be a
    good investment. Where else do you buy something that saves you 20 to
    40 cents a mile, saves wear and tear on your car, helps you stay in
    shape, and lets you see the countryside from a "hiker-like"
    perspective?

    In terms of net worth vs. investment in his bike, JK's cost a lot less
    than ours.

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $695 ti frame

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    David L. Johnson said:
    Peter Cole said:

    Sure, but there's no correlation, you know what I mean? Actually, I
    think there's a negative correlation in the group I ride with. It seems
    that people are constantly "upgrading" but most are riding less as time
    goes on.

    I've noticed a definite correlation here: the slower the ride, the more
    prevalent the titanium.

    Ah come on, David.

    You are not THAT slow!

    HAND

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Colorado Bicycler said:

    Better than $55-65,000 on a Hummer, IMHO.

    Unfortunately, Hummer H2's can be had for a lot less.

    I'd rather have another Moots.

    HAND

  20. Brian Wax said:

    I do not understand you. Nor do I believe you are trying to dialogue. What
    does haven't to quote anything mean. The thread as I understood it was about
    Serotta making the press--not about John Kerry, his political affiliation or
    any of the hyperbole you directed me to.

    Whatever are you going on about? Pull yourself together and make sense man. Or
    at least quote enough so we know what it is that's got you wound into such a
    state.

    Quoted message said:

    Plonk, kill file.

    Thanks for the suggestion, but I won't. I'm more curious to see what you come up
    with next.

    Ron

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