Cholesterol update.

"Bob Mann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

I've made quite a few changes in diet such as more fish, fewer
starches and more salads and vegetables.

I've also lost about 6 lbs since I started dieting and plan to lose
another 10 or so.

Any medications or just changes in diet? That's a pretty significant
change you've achieved - good work!

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Bob Mann said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

I've made quite a few changes in diet such as more fish, fewer
starches and more salads and vegetables.

I've also lost about 6 lbs since I started dieting and plan to lose
another 10 or so.

Most excellent.
Added fish oils?

------------------------------
Reality is an illusion created by an intelligence deficiency.

Steve Freides said:

"Bob Mann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

I've made quite a few changes in diet such as more fish, fewer
starches and more salads and vegetables.

I've also lost about 6 lbs since I started dieting and plan to lose
another 10 or so.

Any medications or just changes in diet? That's a pretty significant
change you've achieved - good work!

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Jusr diet changes so far although my dictor seems to be warning me
that the medication is inevitable. He figures I have a genetic
predisposition to high LDL levels.
I figure once I get my knee back in shape so I can do some serious
training I should be able to lower it some more.
I'm refining my diet more as I go too.
--
Bob Mann
Help save trees. Wipe your ass with an owl.

elzinator said:

Bob Mann said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

I've made quite a few changes in diet such as more fish, fewer
starches and more salads and vegetables.

I've also lost about 6 lbs since I started dieting and plan to lose
another 10 or so.

Most excellent.
Added fish oils?

Thanks,
I have been taking the cod liver oil but dropped from 2 to 1 tbsn per
day. Partly calories and partly not wanting to overdo the Vit A. as
you pointed out regrding the toxicity of it.

Once that's gon I'm going to try to find better oils. Salmon, halibut
etc. Especially in an Omega blend.

I've been eating a lot of fish lately too. Both Tuna and regular
frozen fillets (sole, cod, pollock, whiting)
--
Bob Mann
Help save trees. Wipe your ass with an owl.

Bob Mann said:

Steve Freides said:

"Bob Mann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

I've made quite a few changes in diet such as more fish, fewer
starches and more salads and vegetables.

I've also lost about 6 lbs since I started dieting and plan to

lose

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

another 10 or so.

Any medications or just changes in diet? That's a pretty

significant

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

change you've achieved - good work!

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Jusr diet changes so far although my dictor seems to be warning me
that the medication is inevitable. He figures I have a genetic
predisposition to high LDL levels.
I figure once I get my knee back in shape so I can do some serious
training I should be able to lower it some more.
I'm refining my diet more as I go too.
--
Bob Mann
Help save trees. Wipe your ass with an owl.

Ah, I assume you're skeptical of the benefits of cholesterol
medication.

Bob Mann said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

I've made quite a few changes in diet such as more fish, fewer
starches and more salads and vegetables.

I've also lost about 6 lbs since I started dieting and plan to lose
another 10 or so.

Nicely done Bob! You still using Fitday? I am, and like it.
--
-Larry

Bob Mann said:

Quoted message said:

Thanks,
I have been taking the cod liver oil but dropped from 2 to 1 tbsn per
day. Partly calories and partly not wanting to overdo the Vit A. as
you pointed out regrding the toxicity of it.

Once that's gon I'm going to try to find better oils. Salmon, halibut
etc. Especially in an Omega blend.

I've been eating a lot of fish lately too. Both Tuna and regular
frozen fillets (sole, cod, pollock, whiting)
--
Bob Mann
Help save trees. Wipe your ass with an owl.

Wow, yeah, 2 tablespoons is a good bit there. Probably a good idea
that you dropped it to 1 or less for longer-term use, but the Vitamin D
of course is the great thing about cod liver oil, as a good many
peer-reviewed studies are beginning to scream about how the RDA is too
low. While Vitamin D can be toxic at higher levels, and thus getting a
blood marker of 25-hydroxyvitamin D would be optimal, many people in
this country seem to be deficient. Just a small number of the
seemingly exploding number of recent Vitamin D studies coming out:

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/69/5/842
http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/135/2/332
http://atvb.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/25/1/39
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/80/6/1735S

Larry Hodges said:

Bob Mann said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

I've made quite a few changes in diet such as more fish, fewer
starches and more salads and vegetables.

I've also lost about 6 lbs since I started dieting and plan to lose
another 10 or so.

Nicely done Bob! You still using Fitday? I am, and like it.

Fitday doesn't have any food I eat!

Quoted message said:

Bob Mann said:

Steve Freides said:

"Bob Mann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
> Relatively speaking.
>
> from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.
>
> The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
> Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.
>
> I've made quite a few changes in diet such as more fish, fewer
> starches and more salads and vegetables.
>
> I've also lost about 6 lbs since I started dieting and plan to

lose

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> another 10 or so.

Any medications or just changes in diet? That's a pretty

significant

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

change you've achieved - good work!

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Jusr diet changes so far although my dictor seems to be warning me
that the medication is inevitable. He figures I have a genetic
predisposition to high LDL levels.
I figure once I get my knee back in shape so I can do some serious
training I should be able to lower it some more.
I'm refining my diet more as I go too.
--
Bob Mann
Help save trees. Wipe your ass with an owl.

Ah, I assume you're skeptical of the benefits of cholesterol
medication.

No, but I prefer to try to manage this with diet and exercise first. I
already take a large enough cocktail of medications.
--
Bob Mann
Help save trees. Wipe your ass with an owl.

Larry Hodges said:

Bob Mann said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

I've made quite a few changes in diet such as more fish, fewer
starches and more salads and vegetables.

I've also lost about 6 lbs since I started dieting and plan to lose
another 10 or so.

Nicely done Bob! You still using Fitday? I am, and like it.

Thanks.
Yes I am and if nothing else it really shows how easy it is to take in
more fat than you planned on.
Unfortunately I have put back 3.5 pounds in the past 2 days. I assume
it;s water but steps are being taken.
--
Bob Mann
Help save trees. Wipe your ass with an owl.

npne said:

Larry Hodges said:

Bob Mann said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

I've made quite a few changes in diet such as more fish, fewer
starches and more salads and vegetables.

I've also lost about 6 lbs since I started dieting and plan to lose
another 10 or so.

Nicely done Bob! You still using Fitday? I am, and like it.

Fitday doesn't have any food I eat!

I have added several custom foods using the nutritional labels.
--
Bob Mann
Help save trees. Wipe your ass with an owl.

Bob Mann said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

I've made quite a few changes in diet such as more fish, fewer
starches and more salads and vegetables.

I've also lost about 6 lbs since I started dieting and plan to lose
another 10 or so.

That's good news, Bob.

"Bob Mann" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I have added several custom foods using the nutritional labels.

Custom foods, eh??

Are you a part time deity??

Could you make me up some gold while you are at it.

Thanks Bob. 🙂

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob Mann said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

More important, what was and is your HDL/LDL ratio? A more complete
picture of your CVD risk would be to have C-reactive protein and
Homocysteine checked.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

Bob Mann said:

elzinator said:

Bob Mann said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

I've made quite a few changes in diet such as more fish, fewer
starches and more salads and vegetables.

I've also lost about 6 lbs since I started dieting and plan to lose
another 10 or so.

Most excellent.
Added fish oils?

Thanks,
I have been taking the cod liver oil but dropped from 2 to 1 tbsn per
day. Partly calories and partly not wanting to overdo the Vit A. as
you pointed out regrding the toxicity of it.

Once that's gon I'm going to try to find better oils. Salmon, halibut
etc. Especially in an Omega blend.

I've been eating a lot of fish lately too. Both Tuna and regular
frozen fillets (sole, cod, pollock, whiting)

The cold water fish have greater omega-3 oils.

On 15 Feb 2005 06:53:23 -0800, "elzinator" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Bob Mann said:

elzinator said:

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:21:57 -0600, Bob Mann wrote:
>Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
>Relatively speaking.
>
>from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.
>
>The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
>Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.
>
>I've made quite a few changes in diet such as more fish, fewer
>starches and more salads and vegetables.
>
>I've also lost about 6 lbs since I started dieting and plan to lose
>another 10 or so.

Most excellent.
Added fish oils?

Thanks,
I have been taking the cod liver oil but dropped from 2 to 1 tbsn per
day. Partly calories and partly not wanting to overdo the Vit A. as
you pointed out regrding the toxicity of it.

Once that's gon I'm going to try to find better oils. Salmon, halibut
etc. Especially in an Omega blend.

I've been eating a lot of fish lately too. Both Tuna and regular
frozen fillets (sole, cod, pollock, whiting)

The cold water fish have greater omega-3 oils.

I've never paid much attention to which fish come from where.
I'd guess N. Atlantic fish would be more cold water tan Pacific fish.
--
Bob Mann
Help save trees. Wipe your ass with an owl.

Lee Michaels said:

"Bob Mann" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I have added several custom foods using the nutritional labels.

Custom foods, eh??

Are you a part time deity??

Could you make me up some gold while you are at it.

Thanks Bob. 🙂

Better than that, I'll email it to you. ;-)

Seriously, fitday gives you the option of adding foods not in their
database so I have added a few that I have bought.
--
Bob Mann
Help save trees. Wipe your ass with an owl.

Will Brink said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob Mann said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

More important, what was and is your HDL/LDL ratio? A more complete
picture of your CVD risk would be to have C-reactive protein and
Homocysteine checked.

A more complete check will probably be done later. Maybe when I have a
complete check up in the fall.
The ratio is about 1.5 HDL and 4.2 LDL based on the last figures I
got.
--
Bob Mann
Help save trees. Wipe your ass with an owl.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob Mann said:

Will Brink said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob Mann said:

Just got my results back from the doc and I am back to normal.
Relatively speaking.

from 8.2 mmol/L to 5.7 mmol/L in 2 moths or so.

The works out to 317 mg/dL to 220 mg/dL
Not quite where I want it but a whole lot closer.

More important, what was and is your HDL/LDL ratio? A more complete
picture of your CVD risk would be to have C-reactive protein and
Homocysteine checked.

A more complete check will probably be done later.

Most docs either don't know or care about the last two, so you will have
to request them, if not demand them.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/