I've been trying faithfully to lose using low carb (<20g per day) for over a year and no luck. After 18 months I was still the same weight. I started to believe that it was horses for courses, and that LC wasn't for everyone.
So, I tried something I did 20 years ago and it seems to be working. I continued my LC diet, but also religiously dropped all wheat/gluten from my diet, AND all dairy.
Guess what? I've started to lose slowly but regularly. But, any sniff of either gluten/wheat/dairy immediately causes me to stall, and sometimes gain. The amount of food I eat doesn't seem to come into play on this one - within reason of course. So, maybe there's something in food intolerance after all?
-- Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen
"MartB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I've been trying faithfully to lose using low carb (<20g per day) for over a year and no luck. After 18 months I was still the same weight. I started to believe that it was horses for courses, and that LC wasn't for everyone.
So, I tried something I did 20 years ago and it seems to be working. I continued my LC diet, but also religiously dropped all wheat/gluten from my diet, AND all dairy.
Guess what? I've started to lose slowly but regularly. But, any sniff of either gluten/wheat/dairy immediately causes me to stall, and sometimes gain. The amount of food I eat doesn't seem to come into play on this one - within reason of course. So, maybe there's something in food intolerance after all?
Milk isn't, but other dairy products are, such as many cheeses.
In article <[email hidden]>,
JC Der Koenig said:
Guess what?
Wheat products and milk have never been low carb.
-- Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen
"MartB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I've been trying faithfully to lose using low carb (<20g per day) for over a year and no luck. After 18 months I was still the same weight. I started to believe that it was horses for courses, and that LC wasn't for everyone.
So, I tried something I did 20 years ago and it seems to be working. I continued my LC diet, but also religiously dropped all wheat/gluten from my diet, AND all dairy.
Guess what? I've started to lose slowly but regularly. But, any sniff of either gluten/wheat/dairy immediately causes me to stall, and sometimes gain. The amount of food I eat doesn't seem to come into play on this one - within reason of course. So, maybe there's something in food intolerance after all?
I've been trying faithfully to lose using low carb (<20g per day) for over a year and no luck.
Martin, why did you stay so low for so long? That might be part of the problem.
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After 18 months I was still the same weight. I started to believe that it was horses for courses, and that LC wasn't for everyone.
So, I tried something I did 20 years ago and it seems to be working. I continued my LC diet, but also religiously dropped all wheat/gluten from my diet, AND all dairy.
How exactly did you fit any wheat/gluten into 20 grams carb/day?
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Guess what? I've started to lose slowly but regularly. But, any sniff of either gluten/wheat/dairy immediately causes me to stall, and sometimes gain. The amount of food I eat doesn't seem to come into play on this one - within reason of course. So, maybe there's something in food intolerance after all?
I've been trying faithfully to lose using low carb (<20g per day) for over a year and no luck.
Martin, why did you stay so low for so long? That might be part of the problem.
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After 18 months I was still the same weight. I started to believe that it was horses for courses, and that LC wasn't for everyone.
So, I tried something I did 20 years ago and it seems to be working. I continued my LC diet, but also religiously dropped all wheat/gluten from my diet, AND all dairy.
How exactly did you fit any wheat/gluten into 20 grams carb/day?
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Guess what? I've started to lose slowly but regularly. But, any sniff of either gluten/wheat/dairy immediately causes me to stall, and sometimes gain. The amount of food I eat doesn't seem to come into play on this one - within reason of course. So, maybe there's something in food intolerance after all?
Milk - it's around 5g per 100ml, so it can be fitted into a low-carb diet if the dieter isn't drinking too much of it and if the dieter isn't aiming to do induction.
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Guess what?
Wheat products and milk have never been low carb.
-- Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen
"MartB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I've been trying faithfully to lose using low carb (<20g per day) for
over
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a year and no luck. After 18 months I was still the same weight. I started to believe that it was horses for courses, and that LC wasn't for everyone.
So, I tried something I did 20 years ago and it seems to be working. I continued my LC diet, but also religiously dropped all wheat/gluten
from
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my diet, AND all dairy.
Guess what? I've started to lose slowly but regularly. But, any sniff of either gluten/wheat/dairy immediately causes me to stall, and sometimes gain. The amount of food I eat doesn't seem to come into play on this one - within reason of course. So, maybe there's something in food intolerance after all?
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Milk isn't, but other dairy products are, such as many cheeses.
In article <[email hidden]>,
JC Der Koenig said:
Guess what?
Wheat products and milk have never been low carb.
-- Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen
"MartB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I've been trying faithfully to lose using low carb (<20g per day) for over a year and no luck. After 18 months I was still the same weight. I started to believe that it was horses for courses, and that LC wasn't for everyone.
So, I tried something I did 20 years ago and it seems to be working. I continued my LC diet, but also religiously dropped all wheat/gluten from my diet, AND all dairy.
Guess what? I've started to lose slowly but regularly. But, any sniff of either gluten/wheat/dairy immediately causes me to stall, and sometimes gain. The amount of food I eat doesn't seem to come into play on this one - within reason of course. So, maybe there's something in food intolerance after all?
Milk is comprised of a majority of carbs. Equivocation paves the road to obesity.
-- Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW
"Ada Ma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Milk - it's around 5g per 100ml, so it can be fitted into a low-carb diet if the dieter isn't drinking too much of it and if the dieter isn't aiming to do induction.
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Guess what?
Wheat products and milk have never been low carb.
-- Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen
"MartB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I've been trying faithfully to lose using low carb (<20g per day) for
over
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a year and no luck. After 18 months I was still the same weight. I started to believe that it was horses for courses, and that LC wasn't for everyone.
So, I tried something I did 20 years ago and it seems to be working. I continued my LC diet, but also religiously dropped all wheat/gluten
from
Quoted message said:
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my diet, AND all dairy.
Guess what? I've started to lose slowly but regularly. But, any sniff of either gluten/wheat/dairy immediately causes me to stall, and sometimes gain. The amount of food I eat doesn't seem to come into play on this one - within reason of course. So, maybe there's something in food intolerance after all?
What's more important - learning to eat a diet that is low in carb or learning to eat a diet of low carb food? I believe it's the former because it means that it makes one live comfortably even when surrounded by all kinds of food. The con is, though, is more temptations lead to more failures.
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Milk is comprised of a majority of carbs. Equivocation paves the road to obesity.
-- Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW
"Ada Ma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Milk - it's around 5g per 100ml, so it can be fitted into a low-carb
diet
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if the dieter isn't drinking too much of it and if the dieter isn't aiming
to
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do induction.
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Guess what?
Wheat products and milk have never been low carb.
-- Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen
"MartB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I've been trying faithfully to lose using low carb (<20g per day) for
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> a > year and no luck. > After 18 months I was still the same weight. > I started to believe that it was horses for courses, and that LC
wasn't
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> for > everyone. > > So, I tried something I did 20 years ago and it seems to be working. > I continued my LC diet, but also religiously dropped all wheat/gluten
from
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> my diet, AND all dairy. > > Guess what? I've started to lose slowly but regularly. > But, any sniff of either gluten/wheat/dairy immediately causes me to > stall, > and sometimes gain. > The amount of food I eat doesn't seem to come into play on this one - > within > reason of course. > So, maybe there's something in food intolerance after all? > > Martin
The latter is more important, especially if one is already overweight.
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Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW
-- "Ada Ma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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What's more important - learning to eat a diet that is low in carb or learning to eat a diet of low carb food? I believe it's the former because it means that it makes one live comfortably even when surrounded by all kinds of food. The con is, though, is more temptations lead to more failures.
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Milk is comprised of a majority of carbs. Equivocation paves the road to obesity.
-- Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW
"Ada Ma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Milk - it's around 5g per 100ml, so it can be fitted into a low-carb
diet
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if the dieter isn't drinking too much of it and if the dieter isn't aiming
to
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do induction.
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Guess what? > > Wheat products and milk have never been low carb. > > -- > Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to > breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen > > > "MartB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I've been trying faithfully to lose using low carb (<20g per day) > > for over > > a > > year and no luck. > > After 18 months I was still the same weight. > > I started to believe that it was horses for courses, and that LC
wasn't
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> > for > > everyone. > > > > So, I tried something I did 20 years ago and it seems to be working. > > I continued my LC diet, but also religiously dropped all > > wheat/gluten from > > my diet, AND all dairy. > > > > Guess what? I've started to lose slowly but regularly. > > But, any sniff of either gluten/wheat/dairy immediately causes me to > > stall, > > and sometimes gain. > > The amount of food I eat doesn't seem to come into play on this > > one - > > within > > reason of course. > > So, maybe there's something in food intolerance after all? > > > > Martin
So is broccoli. Maybe I wouldn't be so fat if I stopped eating broccoli. ;o)
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Equivocation paves the road to obesity.
Lack of common sense paves the road to idiocy. The percentage of carbs in a particular food is only one factor in losing weight, and not the most important factor. Brocolli and pasta both have a higher percentage of carbs than fat or protein, yet a cup of brocolli has far fewer total carbs. The total number of carbs is more important, and calories are most important. The majority of the time, your statements about which particular foods are or are not low-carb is beyond unhelpful. I can see it now:
Poster: "I eat nothing but 10 pounds of meat a day, plus a cup of coffee with a tablespoon of milk in it. Why can't I lose weight?"
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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Guess what?
Wheat products and milk have never been low carb.
1/2 cup of cottage cheese is 4 grams carb. I mix about a quarter cup in with a vegetable/chicken breast thing I make to add a creaminess, then don't have to add mayo which has a lot more calories. I also use mayo and butter sparingly. I agree though, too much dairy is not a good thing.
: : 1/2 cup of cottage cheese is 4 grams carb. I mix about a quarter cup : in with a vegetable/chicken breast thing I make to add a creaminess, : then don't have to add mayo which has a lot more calories. I also use : mayo and butter sparingly. I agree though, too much dairy is not a : good thing.
Have you ever noticed how much added sugar is in many containers of cottage cheese? Why do the manufacturers think they have to pump sugar in it?
Is that why you have trouble losing fat and I don't? Keep lying to yourself, maybe someday that'll start working for you.
-- Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW
"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>,
JC Der Koenig said:
Milk is comprised of a majority of carbs.
So is broccoli. Maybe I wouldn't be so fat if I stopped eating broccoli. ;o)
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Equivocation paves the road to obesity.
Lack of common sense paves the road to idiocy. The percentage of carbs in a particular food is only one factor in losing weight, and not the most important factor. Brocolli and pasta both have a higher percentage of carbs than fat or protein, yet a cup of brocolli has far fewer total carbs. The total number of carbs is more important, and calories are most important. The majority of the time, your statements about which particular foods are or are not low-carb is beyond unhelpful. I can see it now:
Poster: "I eat nothing but 10 pounds of meat a day, plus a cup of coffee with a tablespoon of milk in it. Why can't I lose weight?"
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"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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Guess what?
Wheat products and milk have never been low carb.
1/2 cup of cottage cheese is 4 grams carb. I mix about a quarter cup in with a vegetable/chicken breast thing I make to add a creaminess, then don't have to add mayo which has a lot more calories. I also use mayo and butter sparingly. I agree though, too much dairy is not a good thing.
No, I have trouble losing when I eat too much and don't exercise enough. Blaming the tablespoon of milk in my coffee while ignoring the huge hamburger patty with cheese _and_ bacon _and_ mayo (but no bun) would be lying to myself.
That's why statements like "milk is not low carb" aren't helpful. It's ignoring the bigger picture.
In article <[email hidden]>,
JC Der Koenig said:
Is that why you have trouble losing fat and I don't? Keep lying to yourself, maybe someday that'll start working for you.
-- Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW
"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>,
JC Der Koenig said:
Milk is comprised of a majority of carbs.
So is broccoli. Maybe I wouldn't be so fat if I stopped eating broccoli. ;o)
Quoted message said:
Equivocation paves the road to obesity.
Lack of common sense paves the road to idiocy. The percentage of carbs in a particular food is only one factor in losing weight, and not the most important factor. Brocolli and pasta both have a higher percentage of carbs than fat or protein, yet a cup of brocolli has far fewer total carbs. The total number of carbs is more important, and calories are most important. The majority of the time, your statements about which particular foods are or are not low-carb is beyond unhelpful. I can see it now:
Poster: "I eat nothing but 10 pounds of meat a day, plus a cup of coffee with a tablespoon of milk in it. Why can't I lose weight?"
