pre-run snack

Peanut butter & strawberry preserves, or grape jam, or blewberry, too.
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Does anyone have any suggestions for pre-run snacks? I typically run early
in the morning. I get up about 1 hour before I run and I am looking for
something that I can eat quickly that will give me wheat I need but that
isn't too heavy.

There is nothing you can eat 1 hour before your run that will have enough time
to digest and "give you what you need". The energy you'll burn on that run
comes from what you ate the last few days prior. If an empty stomack bothers
you, have something like a toast before you go.

Quoted message said:

Peanut butter & strawberry preserves, or grape jam, or blewberry, too.

Negative on that. Peanut butter is very hard to digest, and takes a long time,
so don't eat that an hour before a run lest you invite cramps/

FabulustRunner said:

Quoted message said:

Peanut butter & strawberry preserves, or grape jam, or blewberry, too.

Negative on that. Peanut butter is very hard to digest, and takes a long time,
so don't eat that an hour before a run lest you invite cramps/

Maybe it is. I generally have peanut butter on two pieces of 60% whole
wheat toast before my long runs (ok, only 15 km but I have only been
running for 8 weeks).

I have never experienced cramps so I think it is something a person
needs to experiment with.

Leafing through rec.running, I read Smart Guy's message of 09 Nov 2004:

Quoted message said:

Does anyone have any suggestions for pre-run snacks? I typically run
early in the morning. I get up about 1 hour before I run and I am
looking for something that I can eat quickly that will give me wheat I
need but that isn't too heavy.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Like Mr. FabuLust said, the extra food won't do you much good, may even
hurt you if you have problems digesting it. However, it depends on the
length of the run. If you're staying under an hour, then you're better off
with nothing solid, just a sports drink just before you take off. For
longer runs where getting energy and carbs are an issue, then I'd go with
something easily digesible. My personal preference is oatmeal w/ whey
protein 1.5 hours before the run. YMMV.

Phil M.

--
"What counts in battle is what you do once the pain sets in." -John Short,
South African coach.

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I have never experienced cramps so I think it is something a person
needs to experiment with.

Ok, it will give MOST people stomach DISCOMFORT eaten just an hour before a
run. Peanut butter is nothing but greasy rat hairs and feces anyway.
Happy now? Sorry I didn't consult your years of LD training you've no doubt
done to feel qualified to give this advice.

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However, it depends on the
length of the run.

True. Since his longest runs are only 15k he doesn't need anything in his
stomach.

Quoted message said:

go with
something easily digesible. My personal preference is oatmeal w/ whey
protein 1.5 hours before the run.

Good advice, oatmeal will certainly digest much easier than Peanut butter.

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Does anyone have any suggestions for pre-run snacks? I typically run
early
in the morning. I get up about 1 hour before I run and I am looking for
something that I can eat quickly that will give me wheat I need but that
isn't too heavy.

Who told you you had to eat before running? The
energy for your run won't come from food eaten an
hour earlier.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton ON)
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

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"Smart Guy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Does anyone have any suggestions for pre-run snacks? I typically run
early
in the morning. I get up about 1 hour before I run and I am looking
for something that I can eat quickly that will give me wheat I need
but that isn't too heavy.

Who told you you had to eat before running? The
energy for your run won't come from food eaten an
hour earlier.

cheers,

This is true - the great majority of your energy comes from the previous
day's intake. So I (a traditionalist) will eat a big pasta meal the
night before a long run. Otherwise, I don't worry too much.

However, morning runs can lead to a sort of queasy stomach, that might
be better with a bit of food in it. I prefer something filling yet
tasteless (i.e. I don't want to taste it all through the run) - like a
bagel, or oatmeal. The kind proprietress of the "Walden Pond Bed and
Breakfast" in beautiful Concord MA., got me onto the oatmeal thing - she
served it with vanilla ice cream, and maple syrup. I declined the ice
cream, and had extra maple syrup. Sticks to the ribs!

dh

Smart Guy said:

Does anyone have any suggestions for pre-run snacks? I typically run
early in the morning. I get up about 1 hour before I run and I am
looking for something that I can eat quickly that will give me wheat
I need but that isn't too heavy.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks!

If it's only an hour, I would say nothing at all, except maybe a sports
drink. I know for me, I prefer running on an empty stomach as it is much
more comfortable than one that has food sloshing around in it.

If you simply must eat something first thing, I'd say stick with something
bland, like oatmeal, bagel, toast, or possibly an energy bar (Clif bar,
natch). And eat it as soon as possible after you wake up to give maximum
time for digestion before you begin your run.

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Quoted message said:

Does anyone have any suggestions for pre-run snacks? I typically run early
in the morning. I get up about 1 hour before I run and I am looking for
something that I can eat quickly that will give me wheat I need but that
isn't too heavy.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks!

How long are you running for (time-wise). My usual morning run is
25-40 minutes and I'll do that on an empty stomach. For a long run (90
minutes or longer) I'll have a bowl of cereal. For the between perhaps
a couple of cookies.

Some will say never to run on an empty stomach after a night's sleep
because of depleted glycogen and the way the body restores it. I don't
believe it and haven't have trouble. But that is me.

What you eat is highly personal. You'll get advice from everybody how
their method is best because..... To come up with your own method try
something that doesn't upset your stomach. You'll know it when you
find it.

Andy

Like several others have suggested, I've had the best luck with a small
bowl of oatmeal to tide me over. It seems to keep my empty stomach from
rumbling for a good long time. But be careful of flavors. Stick to
something mild. Some of those fruity instant oatmeal flavors come back on
me during the run and leave me feeling a little urpy.

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Does anyone have any suggestions for pre-run snacks? I typically run
early in the morning. I get up about 1 hour before I run and I am
looking for something that I can eat quickly that will give me wheat I
need but that isn't too heavy.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks!

amh said:

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What you eat is highly personal. You'll get advice from everybody how
their method is best because..... To come up with your own method try
something that doesn't upset your stomach. You'll know it when you
find it.

And you'll also know when you don't (-;

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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Quoted message said:

Does anyone have any suggestions for pre-run snacks? I typically run early
in the morning. I get up about 1 hour before I run and I am looking for
something that I can eat quickly that will give me wheat I need but that
isn't too heavy.

There is nothing you can eat 1 hour before your run that will have enough time
to digest and "give you what you need". The energy you'll burn on that run
comes from what you ate the last few days prior. If an empty stomack bothers
you, have something like a toast before you go.

I don't know where you got this information, but that is flat out
false. Consider diabetics. They are instructed to eat something
before they start and then during exercising to ensure that their
blood glucose level falls within a certain range.

If there really isn't enough time to get energy from recently consumed
foods, why do they pass out energy gels/sports drinks during races?

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If you simply must eat something first thing, I'd say stick with something
bland, like oatmeal, bagel, toast, or possibly an energy bar (Clif bar,
natch). And eat it as soon as possible after you wake up to give maximum
time for digestion before you begin your run.

If I ate a clif bar before I run it would be a disaster. Those
things are dense and super-filling. The fibre isn't too inviting
either. I know they are marketed to eat before races, but
they scream "AFTER" the race to me.

All food, especially complex stuff like a clif bar, diverts
blood to the stomach to digest it. I don't really like giving
up blood for digestion purposes while running.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton ON)
www.absolutelyaccurate.com
www.allfalldown.org

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I don't know where you got this information, but that is flat out
false.

You are wrong, just look at all the other posts in this thread, every single
one agrees with me on that point, if not the rest.

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Consider diabetics.

Why? Are you a diabetic? I'm not, so it's not relative. You're comparing a
diseased body with how a normal one acts.

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If there really isn't enough time to get energy from recently consumed
foods, why do they pass out energy gels/sports drinks during races?

Have you EVER run a race? It's for recovery.

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All food, especially complex stuff like a clif bar, diverts
blood to the stomach to digest it. I don't really like giving
up blood for digestion purposes while running.

Precisely! Eating within an hour of running is not a good idea.

FabulustRunner said:

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I have never experienced cramps so I think it is something a person
needs to experiment with.

Ok, it will give MOST people stomach DISCOMFORT eaten just an hour before a
run. Peanut butter is nothing but greasy rat hairs and feces anyway.
Happy now? Sorry I didn't consult your years of LD training you've no doubt
done to feel qualified to give this advice.

Sorry. I was just saying that different foods have different effects on
different people.

FabulustRunner said:

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I don't know where you got this information, but that is flat out
false.

You are wrong, just look at all the other posts in this thread, every single
one agrees with me on that point, if not the rest.

According to Tim Noakes (Lore of Running 4th edition) ..."the risks of
eating a high-carbohydrate meal shortly (15 to 45 minutes) before
exercise may have been overemphasized. Nevertheless, some people are
extremely sensitive to this phenomenon."

Further more: "In contrast, strong evidence suggests that ingesting food
45 minutes to 4 hours before exercise may enhance performance ... by
providing an additional store of carbohydrate in the intestine that is
used at a constant rate during subsequent exercise."

This is from page 131.

The section also goes into high GI (glycemic index) and low GI foods and
describes how it is better to use low GI foods before a run. It also
mentions using fat (butter or margarine but peanut butter is not
mentioned) to reduce "the glycemic response to ingestion of the
carbohydrate." (page 130)

I remember seeing an article in Runner's World about eating half a bagel
with peanut butter on it for this reason.

Anyways, it is an interesting section of the book and it is evident that
for some of us there is a benefit and for others there is no benefit.