Sunsets

On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 21:05:05 +0100, "AndyP"
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Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises are going to
occur? Clouds were a nice tinge of pink last night but haven't seen any
really good ones for a while.

Type 'sunset time' in your search engine and take a pick from the ones
there.

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AndyP said:

Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises are going to
occur?

Generally when you don't have a camera with you.
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AndyP said:

Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises are going to
occur? Clouds were a nice tinge of pink last night but haven't seen any
really good ones for a while.

My GPS (eTrex Vista) gives sunrise and sunset times adjusted for where
you are. It cannot help with cloud conditions!! :-)

--
Dave McLaughlin

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"Dewi" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises are going

to

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occur? Clouds were a nice tinge of pink last night but haven't seen any
really good ones for a while.

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Type 'sunset time' in your search engine and take a pick from the ones
there.

I know the times. I meant can you tell if the sky is going to be turned all
shades of red, purple and pink from the preceding weather conditions or any
other factors. Or do certain areas of the UK get better sunsets/sunrises
than others? Something to do with dust in the atmosphere isn't it? A few
weeks back I was camped on top of Beinn Sgritheall hoping for a good one to
enhance the view over the islands and out to sea but it wasn't anything to
shout about. It would be good if you could tell in advance.

spamtrap@localhost said...

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AndyP said:

Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises are going to
occur?

Generally when you don't have a camera with you.

Aye, methinks you've got it in one.
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as a dire warning.

Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.?> wrote

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AndyP said:

Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises are going to
occur?

Generally when you don't have a camera with you.

That's why I rarely carry a camera.
--
Gordon

Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.?> wrote

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AndyP said:

Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises are going to
occur?

Generally when you don't have a camera with you.

That's why I rarely carry a camera.
--
Gordon

"Andrew" wrote

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Generally when you don't have a camera with you.

Too true . . .

Heres a snap from one of the rare times when I did have a camera with me :-

http://www.stevegwilcox.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lundysunset.htm

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"Andrew" wrote

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Generally when you don't have a camera with you.

Too true . . .

Heres a snap from one of the rare times when I did have a camera with me :-

http://www.stevegwilcox.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lundysunset.htm

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Peace !

Steve Wilcox

"If Whisky Don't Kill Me I'll Live 'Til I Die"

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On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 22:06:24 +0100, "AndyP"
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"Dewi" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises are going

to

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occur? Clouds were a nice tinge of pink last night but haven't seen any
really good ones for a while.

Quoted message said:

Type 'sunset time' in your search engine and take a pick from the ones
there.

I know the times. I meant can you tell if the sky is going to be turned all
shades of red, purple and pink from the preceding weather conditions or any
other factors. Or do certain areas of the UK get better sunsets/sunrises
than others? Something to do with dust in the atmosphere isn't it? A few
weeks back I was camped on top of Beinn Sgritheall hoping for a good one to
enhance the view over the islands and out to sea but it wasn't anything to
shout about. It would be good if you could tell in advance.

sorry, Impossible.

I'm not an expert, but

The clouds would have to be present
They would have to be the right sort
They would have to be in the right place
The sun would need a line of sight to the clouds
The atmosphere would have be right
So many variables...

After all, you don't see one every night do you...

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Dewi,

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On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 22:06:24 +0100, "AndyP"
<[email hidden]> uttered:

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"Dewi" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Quoted message said:

Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises are going

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

occur? Clouds were a nice tinge of pink last night but haven't seen any
really good ones for a while.

Quoted message said:

Type 'sunset time' in your search engine and take a pick from the ones
there.

I know the times. I meant can you tell if the sky is going to be turned all
shades of red, purple and pink from the preceding weather conditions or any
other factors. Or do certain areas of the UK get better sunsets/sunrises
than others? Something to do with dust in the atmosphere isn't it? A few
weeks back I was camped on top of Beinn Sgritheall hoping for a good one to
enhance the view over the islands and out to sea but it wasn't anything to
shout about. It would be good if you could tell in advance.

sorry, Impossible.

I'm not an expert, but

The clouds would have to be present
They would have to be the right sort
They would have to be in the right place
The sun would need a line of sight to the clouds
The atmosphere would have be right
So many variables...

After all, you don't see one every night do you...

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Dewi,

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Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises are going to
occur? Clouds were a nice tinge of pink last night but haven't seen any
really good ones for a while.

It was one of the best I've seen over Bakewell on Saturday.
www.ckdog.co.uk/sunset

Maybe could have taken more time and got better compositions but I had a
very dark wood to get through before I could get back to the car...

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weeks back I was camped on top of Beinn Sgritheall hoping for a good one to
enhance the view over the islands and out to sea but it wasn't anything to
shout about.

I've actually found this area to be one of the best place for sunsets
in the UK. The sunsets over the Cuillins on Skye are stunning. Not
just from the top of Beinn Sgritheall, but also the road at Upper
Sandaig. Here are three shots ,taken on consecutive evenings last
August:

http://www.starstonephoto.com/JL002.jpg
http://www.starstonephoto.com/JL111.jpg
http://www.starstonephoto.com/JL113.jpg

Interestingly (or not), the first image (the purple-ish one) has been
my best selling photo ever.

Michael S

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"AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
A few

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weeks back I was camped on top of Beinn Sgritheall hoping for a good one to
enhance the view over the islands and out to sea but it wasn't anything to
shout about.

I've actually found this area to be one of the best place for sunsets
in the UK. The sunsets over the Cuillins on Skye are stunning. Not
just from the top of Beinn Sgritheall, but also the road at Upper
Sandaig. Here are three shots ,taken on consecutive evenings last
August:

http://www.starstonephoto.com/JL002.jpg
http://www.starstonephoto.com/JL111.jpg
http://www.starstonephoto.com/JL113.jpg

Interestingly (or not), the first image (the purple-ish one) has been
my best selling photo ever.

Michael S

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Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.?> wrote

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AndyP said:

Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises

are going to

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occur?

Generally when you don't have a camera with you.

That's why I rarely carry a camera.
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Give your camera to Paul and ask him to take a few pics the next time
he's out photographing sunrises at 4am. Actually, I have a fabulous
picture of Mt Cook that I took with my mates camera (with him on
it).....I wonder who owns the copyright? Hmmm.

Graham

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Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.?> wrote

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On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 21:05:05 +0100, "AndyP"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises

are going to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>occur?

Generally when you don't have a camera with you.

That's why I rarely carry a camera.
--

Give your camera to Paul and ask him to take a few pics the next time
he's out photographing sunrises at 4am. Actually, I have a fabulous
picture of Mt Cook that I took with my mates camera (with him on
it).....I wonder who owns the copyright? Hmmm.

Well If you took the pic you do. If you were working for your mate he
does.
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spongebob said:

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Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.?> wrote
>On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 21:05:05 +0100, "AndyP"
><[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises

are going to

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>>occur?
>
>Generally when you don't have a camera with you.

That's why I rarely carry a camera.
--

Give your camera to Paul and ask him to take a few pics the next time
he's out photographing sunrises at 4am. Actually, I have a fabulous
picture of Mt Cook that I took with my mates camera (with him on
it).....I wonder who owns the copyright? Hmmm.

Well If you took the pic you do. If you were working for your mate he
does.

It's not quite as simple as that. If your mate asked you to take the
picture and told you where to take it from then he owns the copyright.
If you composed the picture and directed him then you own the
composition. However if your mate owns the camera and the film then he
owns the physical image but maybe not the composition.

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Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.?> wrote
>On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 21:05:05 +0100, "AndyP"
><[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>Is it possible to tell in advance when good sunsets or sunrises

are going to

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>>occur?
>
>Generally when you don't have a camera with you.

That's why I rarely carry a camera.
--

Give your camera to Paul and ask him to take a few pics the next time
he's out photographing sunrises at 4am. Actually, I have a fabulous
picture of Mt Cook that I took with my mates camera (with him on
it).....I wonder who owns the copyright? Hmmm.

Well If you took the pic you do. If you were working for your mate he
does.

It's not quite as simple as that. If your mate asked you to take the
picture and told you where to take it from then he owns the copyright.
If you composed the picture and directed him then you own the
composition. However if your mate owns the camera and the film then he
owns the physical image but maybe not the composition.

Chris Townsend said:

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On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:45:16 GMT, spongebob wrote:

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Give your camera to Paul and ask him to take a few pics the next time
he's out photographing sunrises at 4am. Actually, I have a fabulous
picture of Mt Cook that I took with my mates camera (with him on
it).....I wonder who owns the copyright? Hmmm.

Well If you took the pic you do. If you were working for your mate he
does.

It's not quite as simple as that. If your mate asked you to take the
picture and told you where to take it from then he owns the copyright.
If you composed the picture and directed him then you own the
composition. However if your mate owns the camera and the film then he
owns the physical image but maybe not the composition.

What if you took it on his camera (composing as you wished) but with
your memory card? :-)
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Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"