In message <[email hidden]>, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> writes
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:34:28 +0100, " [Not Responding] " <[email hidden]> wrote in message <[email hidden]>:
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Last time I encountered snow, the brakes were U/S from fairly early on; reduced to balls of ice. The mudguards seemed to stay clear but I'd put that down to the fact that there wasn't really that much snow.
My brakes were OK. But they are disks :-)
ditto my drum and coaster brakes.:_)
Hey, I'll be alright this year! You've just made me realise that my brakes are some sort of hub affair ("roller brakes" - I have not got an inkling what goes on inside the unit). Bring on the snow.
"Danny Colyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Having not yet mastered teleportation, I usually find it necessary to ride up behind other riders if I wish to overtake them. As a result I tend to regard riding without mudguards as rather antisocial.
I probably overtake 10-20 cyclists on a typical commute but I will always approach them about 3 to 4 foot to their right so that I can simply go straight past without having to worry about other overtaking traffic blocking me. This means that spray would not generally be a problem.
Hmm. Looking forward to the Winter now. We've had such boringly mild ones for so long, I hope we get a 3 week freeze interspersed with significant snowfall. Fat chance down here on the coast though. We call it a bad winter if the pineapples don't ripen.
Feck that! Last winter was *diabolical* here in sunny Manchester.
Packed snow &/or rutted re-frozen stuff under a layer of fresh snow nearly had me off. Like riding over invisible tram lines which are almost, but not quite paralell to your desired direction of travel.
Add in nice deep frosts and black ice, and most of Jan & Feb were quite miserable.
I saw a girl in Hyde Park with a white trouser suit and a neat black line from base to apex. Must have been daft 🙂) fancy not having mudguards!!
I once saw a woman riding up Tottenham Court Road on a wet winter evening. Mountain bike, no mudguards. The white[1] jumper tied round her waist was a nice touch, especially given the way it completely obscured her rear light...
1 - for differing values of "white", by the time she got home.
I probably overtake 10-20 cyclists on a typical commute but I will always approach them about 3 to 4 foot to their right so that I can simply go straight past without having to worry about other overtaking traffic blocking me. This means that spray would not generally be a problem.
Can't do that on the cyclepath. Not wide enough.
Of course, I could ride all the way to work on the road instead, but then I would have a much longer and less pleasant commute.
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Don't know if you've noticed, but even full-length mudguards don't stop the spray being thrown into the face of the rider behind -- they only stop the rider/bike getting mucky. You'll need mud flaps as well as guards to stop this happening.
You need a mudflap that virtually touches the ground to avoid spraying someone a few feet behind. Just imagine a tangent from the tyre tread.
Hmm. Looking forward to the Winter now. We've had such boringly mild ones for so long, I hope we get a 3 week freeze interspersed with significant snowfall. Fat chance down here on the coast though. We call it a bad winter if the pineapples don't ripen.
Feck that! Last winter was *diabolical* here in sunny Manchester.
Packed snow &/or rutted re-frozen stuff under a layer of fresh snow nearly had me off. Like riding over invisible tram lines which are almost, but not quite paralell to your desired direction of travel.
Add in nice deep frosts and black ice, and most of Jan & Feb were quite miserable.
Oh I enjoyed slipping and sliding all over the A2 having got caught out by the snow, all those poor car drivers having to get escorted by the Police so they didn't speed 🙂) Fair made me chortle. Sniper8052
" [Not Responding] " <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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What are people's thoughts about the ethics of mudguards?
If I was a cycle commuter I'd fit them for my own benefit, it's long been a source of wonderment to me as to why people would not use them for commuting. I have them on my winter road bike and use them on my pukka mtb, a small Crud guard for drier weather to keep animal fe..fa... fea...oh, alright..[censored] from flying off the front wheel into my face, apart from anything else, and bigger clip-on types for wetter weather (Aug to May). Ok I still get muddy on the mtb but it keeps the worst of my face, jersey and backside thus increasing comfort and extending the life of my shorts and saddle.
Why anyone would want all the [censored] from a wet road surface to end up in their eyes and face on a regular basis when it is preventable is beyond me, but each to his own.
Don't know if you've noticed, but even full-length mudguards don't stop the spray being thrown into the face of the rider behind -- they only stop the rider/bike getting mucky. You'll need mud flaps as well as guards to stop this happening.
You need a mudflap that virtually touches the ground to avoid spraying someone a few feet behind. Just imagine a tangent from the tyre tread.
: If I was a cycle commuter I'd fit them for my own benefit, it's long been a
It's odd that no-one has mentioned the main benift of having mudguards on a commuter: it makes your bike much less nickable!
Arthur
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In article <[email hidden]>, [Not Responding] <[email hidden]> writes
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What are people's thoughts about the ethics of mudguards?
My view has been that as a responsible commuter sharing the road with quite a few other cyclists that I *should* use guards for everyone's benefit as well as my own. It's really yucky being stuck behind someone who's throwing an arc of road grime for 10 metres behind them.
I'm sure there was a legal requirement to have mudguards at one time? When I was a teenager in the late 50's /early 60's it was popular to fit silly 9 inch things to bikes as it satisfied the law, IIRC. Maybe there is still a legal requirement, riding without lights _is_ illegal but who could tell from the number of prosecutions. -- Peter Grange
I'm sure there was a legal requirement to have mudguards at one time? When I was a teenager in the late 50's /early 60's it was popular to fit silly 9 inch things to bikes as it satisfied the law, IIRC.
The Dutch law did not specify you needed mudguards, just that there should be a white coloured final 30 cm at the rear 🙂 I think it is a recommendation now rather than a law.
"the.Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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JohnB wrote: > Peter Grange wrote: > >> When I was a teenager in the late 50's /early 60's it was >> popular to fit silly 9 inch things to bikes... > > Oh dear, I remember them - racing guards, the equivalent of > go-fast turbo stripes and fluffy dice. > Yes I had a set <hangs head in shame>
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I've got a pair in my box of bike bits.
Have you got a peg and a bit of cardbpoard as well?
I've some strange things in my bike box but why would I have a peg and a bit of cardboard? --
