(Would be) thieves

Helen Deborah Vecht said:

Yebbut the hooks tend to scratch your legs and who *wants* to walk about
dragging 5kg of potatoes all the time?

My pannier hooks tend to scratch anyone who pushes past me too close.
But of course in Japan they can generally stay on the bike.

James
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There's no easy way round this I'm afraid. Pannier are not easy to
carry. Things like Karrimors rucksack conversion kit are a PITA and
only let you carry one pannier.

We sometime use clip-on shoulder straps (IIRC one came with the
panniers, one was cannibalised from elsewhere). Of course that depends
on using panniers with appropriate fixing points, like ours from
Jandd. When lightly loaded, you can even clip the panniers together
and carry them from a single strap.

James

Chris Davies said:

Unfortunately I have throwover panniers. Is it time to move into the
world of Rixen and Kaul?

Maybe, but there are advantages, like you can just take one bag when
that's all you need and also much easier to carry than a pair attached
together. R&K aren't the only game in town for clip-on fittings, and in
fact I prefer Ortlieb's system to R&K stuff. Carradice C-clips are neat
locking ones standard on their panniers.

Pete.
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the.Mark said:

I used to have a "Radioactive Material" sign on the back door to the garage.
I don't know if it deterred thieves but we were never broken into.

That's not such a good idea, however nice it sounds. It's important not
to dilute or abuse warning signs, otherwise they cease to act as warning
signs. You don't want to sow doubt around them, unless you're trying to
undermine them. There also are circumstances in which a false warning
could cause real harm by making people behave differently in an
emergency.

Daniele
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the.Mark said:

I used to have a "Radioactive Material" sign on the back door to the
garage. I don't know if it deterred thieves but we were never broken
into.

When I was a young Mr Larrington and sharing a house with a bunch of
penniless film & photography student oafs (oaves?) we had one such in the
window of our front door. A concerned/nosy neighbour informed the landloard
who, presumably believing that were busy rigging up a home-brewed atomic
weapon with which to Destroy Civilisation As We Know It, or at least Kenton
As We Know It, informed the Old Bill. Plod was polite, but insisted it be
removed.

Bah!

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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:27:40 +0100 someone who may be Chris Davies
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Quoted message said:

Ouch! Is there a cheaper one?

http://www.atob.org.uk/trailer_price_tag.html has a list ordered by
price. Then use a search engine to locate suitable shops. Depending
on where you are someone might be able to recommend a specialist.

Quoted message said:

I have quite a nice wheelset that's doing
nothing at present, if there's a DIY option.

If you have the skills then you can build something that suits you,
but the range of trailers that can be bought cover a fair range of
styles.

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I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

Quoted message said:

Ok yes there is a risk that someone will steal stuff from the panniers,
or even steal the panniers (though it'd take them a while to work out
how to get mine off - and they are such a scruffy pair of Super 'C'c...)
but the reality seems to be that on the whole they don't very often.
Even when left in the middle of busy cities like Leeds and London.

I'm also a member of the run the risk school of thought. Having said
that I make a point of not parking my mountain bike in Glasgow as it
is flashy enough to be a target. I frequently park my non flashy
commuter bike in Glasgow and leave the scruffy pannier on it. I leave
the spare tube, cheap pump and waterproof in the bike and park in a
busy place. So far no problems. If something gets stolen from it thats
too bad but covered by the petrol/parking money saved by biking rather
than driving and I'll bike more often the less hassle involved. If
using the tandem I also leave the gear on the bike including the
Blackburn frame pump. I use plastic cable ties to attach it so that
idle fingers can't take it off and a knife or some kind of cutter
would be required.
Iain

Chris Davies said:

Velvet said:

Chris Davies said:

Hi

Rode into town yesterday, and got back to find my panniers had been
opened up and the contents sorted through I was only gone 10 minutes.
Nothing has been taken(suprised they didn't take the pump, it was a
Blackburn and cost a fair whack), but I'm more annoyed than anything.
It was parked up in front of a shopping centre in Reading too, really
crowded.
What do you do if you have to leave your panniers on the bike
unattended? It's such a drag carrying them round. Is there anything
else you can do? Was thinking of putting something unpleasant in the
bag, but don't want to. Is there such a thing as lockable pannier
bags? Bet they'd weigh something if there is.

Chris

I don't leave panniers, but frequently wish I could. Have a look in
outdoors shops for a pack-net. Wire net that goes over backpacks etc
and locks onto things. Might be adaptable to use with panniers, and
lock to the bike...

Do you mean you don't have them, or you wish you did? If you want a set
quote me, but your Audax will probably have braze-ons for a rack - look
at the seat stays to see if you have lugs. Even if it didn't you could
have one if you fit p-clips. I have a spare rack you could have if you
sent the price of its postage - would like to see it go to a good home.
Email me if you're interested.

Oh, I have panniers, but like you, tire of lugging them around - in my
case, around cambridge, having left bike in secure parking facility,
rather than attempting to cycle through the pavement lemmings and find
non-existant bikerack spaces closer to the shops we visit.

I keep meaning to get one of those pack net things, but like you, the
cost puts me off so far... it's not *that* frequent that I take panniers
to town (often I can get by with begging space in t'other halves, given
he's faster than me on a bike!)

--

Velvet

iarocu said:

Quoted message said:

Ok yes there is a risk that someone will steal stuff from the panniers,
or even steal the panniers (though it'd take them a while to work out
how to get mine off - and they are such a scruffy pair of Super 'C'c...)
but the reality seems to be that on the whole they don't very often.
Even when left in the middle of busy cities like Leeds and London.

I'm also a member of the run the risk school of thought. Having said
that I make a point of not parking my mountain bike in Glasgow as it
is flashy enough to be a target. I frequently park my non flashy
commuter bike in Glasgow and leave the scruffy pannier on it. I leave
the spare tube, cheap pump and waterproof in the bike and park in a
busy place. So far no problems. If something gets stolen from it thats
too bad but covered by the petrol/parking money saved by biking rather
than driving and I'll bike more often the less hassle involved. If
using the tandem I also leave the gear on the bike including the
Blackburn frame pump. I use plastic cable ties to attach it so that
idle fingers can't take it off and a knife or some kind of cutter
would be required.
Iain

Ah, I like that! The Blackburn should be OK, it'll stop it falling off too
(don't you hate it when an ali pump falls off and it costs £25 to replace
it?).

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Dave Larrington wrote (of radiohazard signs):

Quoted message said:

When I was a young Mr Larrington and sharing a house with a bunch of
penniless film & photography student oafs (oaves?) we had one such in the
window of our front door.

Oh yes, in my student house we had biohazard tape on the fridge door.
Mind you, it was probably appropriate.

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D.M. Procida said:

the.Mark said:

I used to have a "Radioactive Material" sign on the back door to the
garage. I don't know if it deterred thieves but we were never broken
into.

That's not such a good idea, however nice it sounds. It's important
not to dilute or abuse warning signs, otherwise they cease to act as
warning signs. You don't want to sow doubt around them, unless you're
trying to undermine them. There also are circumstances in which a
false warning could cause real harm by making people behave
differently in an emergency.

Daniele

You are right. The door has now gone.
--
Mark

1x1 wheel, 3x2 wheels & 1x3 wheels.

Dave Larrington said:

the.Mark said:

I used to have a "Radioactive Material" sign on the back door to the
garage. I don't know if it deterred thieves but we were never broken
into.

When I was a young Mr Larrington and sharing a house with a bunch of
penniless film & photography student oafs (oaves?) we had one such in
the window of our front door. A concerned/nosy neighbour informed
the landloard who, presumably believing that were busy rigging up a
home-brewed atomic weapon with which to Destroy Civilisation As We
Know It, or at least Kenton As We Know It, informed the Old Bill.
Plod was polite, but insisted it be removed.

Bah!

I know someone who half buried a coffin in his garden to frighten off kids.
Plod told him to remove it.
--
Mark

1x1 wheel, 3x2 wheels & 1x3 wheels.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm also a member of the run the risk school of thought. Having said
that I make a point of not parking my mountain bike in Glasgow as it
is flashy enough to be a target. I frequently park my non flashy
commuter bike in Glasgow and leave the scruffy pannier on it. I leave
the spare tube, cheap pump and waterproof in the bike and park in a
busy place. So far no problems. If something gets stolen from it thats
too bad but covered by the petrol/parking money saved by biking rather
than driving and I'll bike more often the less hassle involved. If
using the tandem I also leave the gear on the bike including the
Blackburn frame pump. I use plastic cable ties to attach it so that
idle fingers can't take it off and a knife or some kind of cutter
would be required.
Iain

Ah, I like that! The Blackburn should be OK, it'll stop it falling off too
(don't you hate it when an ali pump falls off and it costs £25 to replace
it?).

Since my post above I have bought a multitool from B&Q for the grand
sum of £2.63. 8 oz weight with usual allen keys up to 6mm and 3 socket
and 3 flat spanners, crosshead and flat screwdrivers. At that price
I,ll take the chance of leaving it in the pannier as well. The £2.63
appeared to be a standard price rather than a special and should
anyone be wanting one was found in the hand tools section when I was
looking for a standard allen key set. Glasgow Gt Western Rd branch but
I presume a nationwide stocked item.
Iain