Winter Riding

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There was a thread on here on 31/12/03 entitled Winter Wear that detailed what some of us wear
whilst cycling in the winter. Use Google Groups to search for it.

On top you need a wicking base layer, I use Helly Hansen Long Sleeve

thermal

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top. The I use a sleeveless T shirt, then a long sleeve cycling jersey

with

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a fleecy lining then a lightweight wateproof(for windproofing). On top of that a refective
waistcoat. On my head either a helmet perhaps with a

themal

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balaclava or some sort of fleece/woolen hat/ I wear normal cycling shorts under long tights,
sometimes winter weight(Roubaix).Ordinary (thin) calf length socks, normal cycling shoes covered
with neoprene overshoes. I also wear thinsulate gloves and clear plastic glasses.

Greetings,

Wow, don't you melt with all that? I'm still feeling too warm in just bib knicks, summer socks,
lightweight jersey, and a fairly light breathable waterproof! Oh, and of course a helmet and an old
pair of Shimano spd trainers.

I've always found the best thing for the cold is a steady pace!

T.T.F.N.

SPENNY

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Arthur Clune said:

It occurs to be that we'll all given kit tips, but not really talked about motivation.

Please, Sir, I did , Sir.

The class swot speaks -- I see. Flick ink pellets at him. Bloody swot.

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Peter Clinch said:

Mudguards can make a real difference. In winter there's often a layer of semi-liquid permacack
on the roads and without guards it will transfer itself to you to some extent if you don't have
guards (preferably with mudflaps). Life is much more pleasant IME when this doesn't happen, and
if your clothes stay as dry as possible they'll work better.

Pete.

permacack - I like that word. Yes mudgurards are a very useful accessory to make winter riding
more pleasurable. I enjoy winter cycling much more when I don't try. I enjoy every ride without
caring if I go really slow or do olny 13 miles. I never used to do much in the winter so I see
every mile now as a bonus and feel good for doing some rather than bad for doing less that I feel
I ought to.

I'm looking forward to the first Audax of 04. There are plenty to choose from:

11 Jan 205 Oxford BR 17 Jan 102 Almondsbury, N. Bristol BP 18 Jan 102 Bath BP 18 Jan 108
Kingsworthy, Winchester BP 24 Jan 116 Denmead, N. of Portsmouth BP 25 Jan 204 Cheadle, Stockport
BR 25 Jan 160 Cheadle, Stockport BP 25 Jan 105 Down Ampney, Cirencester BP

see www.audax.uk.net for the gen ;-)

MartinM said:

see www.audax.uk.net for the gen ;-)

What are the designations? BR? BP?

Simonb

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Except in the SUMMER. I hate it.

I live in a [small] town [...] and I have not yet managed to get on my bike MUCH since September
of last year the days started to get

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longer, and it's just to hot to get out there and ride.

I have to wear a long-sleeve lightweight jersey to stop sun-burn, slather the back of my neck in SPF
30+, face, bits of the hands outside of the gloves, knees, ears... and that stuff *always* gets in
your eyes.

By 9:00am it's getting up past 25C, by 11 you don't want to go outside at all. Maybe it's working in
air-conditioning all day - you never get used to the extra heat of summer. Mostly it's doesn't seem
to cool down in the afternoon - maybe I should take up night-time riding too, our little town
(Morisset, NSW, AU) is exceedingly quiet after 8pm.

I'm waiting for the seasons to turn, the cooler days, not having a ring of salt on my back from
sweating under my bag, watching the sun-rise glint off the frosty grass on the way to to the
train station.

In winter you can always put more clothes on, but taking them off for summer has it's limits!

cheers, -kt

kingsley wrote:

Move to the UK, rarely too hot in the summer

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Spencer Bullen said:

Wow, don't you melt with all that?

No. Last night I dispensed with the sleeveless T. I was a little too warm so I undid my zip and soo
cooled down. I used some new gloves which were a litte too warm too.

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MartinM said:

see www.audax.uk.net for the gen ;-)

What are the designations? BR? BP?

Simonb

BR= Brevet de Randonneur, average speed 15-30 kph BP= Brevet Populaire, av 12-25 I think, but it
does vary slightly per ride. I think each event has its max-min stated on the entry form. There may
be other differences but average speed is the only one I have ever noticed. For more info see the
regs. on the site. Generally they are BP up to 150k and BR above. NB the average speeds include all
stops/controls so a newish computer will start/ stop and affect the displayed average. Also as the
route sheets are almost always in k the computer should be set to K's unless you want to keep doing
mental arithmetic at each direction ! hope this helps ;-) MM

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longer, and it's just to hot to get out there and ride.

I have to wear a long-sleeve lightweight jersey to stop sun-burn, slather the back of my neck in
SPF 30+, face, bits of the hands outside of the gloves, knees, ears... and that stuff *always*
gets in your eyes.

By 9:00am it's getting up past 25C, by 11 you don't want to go outside at all. Maybe it's working
in air-conditioning all day - you never get used to the extra heat of summer. Mostly it's doesn't
seem to cool down in the afternoon - maybe I should take up night-time riding too, our little town
(Morisset, NSW, AU) is exceedingly quiet after 8pm.

My experience of cycling in India varied depending on the area.

In the arid areas it could be hitting 35 to 40 degrees by mid day -- so it was best to be taking it
easy by 11:00 and not restart till 15:00 at least. That said (mad dogs & Englishmen) I often found
that I continued through much of the hot time -- often just to find a suitable place to stop & eat.

In the south humidity was the problem. That was like cycling in a sauna and much more draining.
Fortunately I only had a couple of very hot, very humid days -- so sat them out.

Yes, at all times the weather was hotter than an English summer -- but at no time was it impossible
to ride for more than a few hours.

Given the roads & drivers in India only a fool would cycle after dark!!

T

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As I said -- I'm weird. I simply do not like cycling with things round my knees so bare kneed
it is. T

Until you can cycle no more that is.

You must be the only person in the world to whom the keep limbs/joints warm in winter doesn't
apply. :-)

My knees are warm. There is a significant flow of nice warm blood flowing down to feed my calf
muscles that are pumping like crazy. The internal, working parts of my knees are, therefore, fine.

I have been cycling bare kneed for 40+ years and, while I do have a pair of tights that I use
occasionally, I have no intention of changing my current practice.

T

rider said:

Until you can cycle no more that is.

You must be the only person in the world to whom the keep limbs/joints warm in winter doesn't
apply. :-)

When I were a lad, we used to wear shorts all year round, and not just on the rugby field
either. Bah!

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Greetings,

Wow, don't you melt with all that? I'm still feeling too warm in just bib knicks, summer socks,
lightweight jersey, and a fairly light breathable waterproof! Oh, and of course a helmet and an
old pair of Shimano spd trainers.

It all depends what you mean light breathable waterproof. I have a goretex top and its pretty
irrelevant what I wear underneath it. After 10 15- mintues it's boil in the bag almost
whatever the temp.

Tony Raven said:

There's a book in there somewhere - "Round Dundee with a Fridge" ;-)

Got some more experience under my belt last night... Was to be Wednesday but the weather was fine
last night so having been hung up by Comet's useless call centre when I tried to find if it was in
stock yet anyway I figured I could always get a trolley full of groceries from the supermarket if it
wasn't there yet and set off.

Comet stockman asks me to lead the way to where we'll load it up and he's a bit surprised to see a
long bike just outside the door, but we load it in the way I ask (won't just sit in the cargo bin as
the packing makes it oversize, so a 45 degree twist so there's a 'V' to keep it more stable is in
order). I dig out my canoe straps to secure it and soon find I have an audience of a security guard
("Not a chance mate!"😉 and a Comet management type who wants to tell me it doesn't look safe. "I
haven't strapped it in place yet"; "Yes, but we just want to say we can't be responsible for it like
that". As if they'd be responsible for it on a car roof rack... deary me. I say it'll be fine when
I've strapped it on and the manager type decides to say his piece again and that he felt he had to
give their view "officially", so I said fine, finished strapping it on and took it for a spin round
the adjacent Asda car park to make sure it was happy. Nae bother at all there, so off home I set,
the audience at the front of Comet now gone, presumably as the car park demonstration hadn't
produced the expected hilarious disaster. And 5 miles later the fridge was back home and standing
for its two hours for the refrigerant to settle (I read the instructions and everything!).

One thing that does surprise me is that even with a fridge on board it gets far less attention paid
to it than the 'bent.

Pete.
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Wot Tony said. Guy will hon sec of a tenis club when he gro up and serve him right no fate
is to bad...

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Frank X said:

It all depends what you mean light breathable waterproof. I have a goretex top and its pretty
irrelevant what I wear underneath it. After 10 15- mintues it's boil in the bag almost whatever
the temp.

There's Goretex and Goretex though. Paclite 3 in a cycling cut is a helluva lot breathable than an
old general purpose Taffeta Goretex jacket, for example. Not that you won't outsweat the Paclite one
if you're going for it to any extent, mind...

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There's a book in there somewhere - "Round Dundee with a Fridge" ;-)

Heh! When I was a removal man my party trick was carrying fridges and freezers single-handed. they
weigh very little, you just need long arms :-)

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Guy will hon sec of a tenis club when he gro up and serve him right no fate is to bad...

Not judging by my spectacular display of one-eyed unco-ordinated floundering in the local park when
my eldest wanted to try out his new tennis racket I won't :-)

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Just zis Guy said:

Heh! When I was a removal man my party trick was carrying fridges and freezers single-handed. they
weigh very little, you just need long arms :-)

Or a long bike! ;-)

And the bulk is even worse when they're still shrouded in the packaging, and it also stops you
getting a hand inside. Once there was enough of it in the cargo bin that it was basically stable
before lashing it in place the only problem was it sat a bit far forwards and didn't quite clear the
saddle, but since it was only 5 miles and provided a bit of touchy-feely feedback through my bum
that it wasn't doing anything naughty I lived with that rather than faff about trying to re-site it.

The 8 may not be truly Dark Side, but it's at the very least Insufficient Light! ;-)

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Just zis Guy said:

Not judging by my spectacular display of one-eyed unco-ordinated floundering in the local park
when my eldest wanted to try out his new tennis racket I won't :-)

i imagine it is not necesary to be able to pla tenis to be hon sec of a tenis club...

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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

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The 8 may not be truly Dark Side, but it's at the very least Insufficient Light! ;-)

Surely you are Darned to Heck for all eternity, or until a better offer comes along ;-)

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