winter gloves - Impossible?

http://www.sealskinz.com/ did the job for me this over last winter, ok
not hi viz

woollpigs

Josey said:

I know it's been mulled over before, I read the archives, but nothing really
of help.

I need to get some new (autumn/winter) gloves, but want multi-purpose so
they need to be:

Waterproof
Breathable
Warm
Not too warm
have "hi vis" stripes
not too expensive.

Not too demanding I know.

I've wandered into my LBS, and Specialized Radiate and Deflect catch my eye,
only one's a bit thick and the other's not waterproof.
I'd prefer to pay less too!

What's good?

thanks,

Jc.

In article <[email hidden]>, Josey
<nospam@josey.?.invalid> writes

Quoted message said:

not too expensive.

Having found most winter gloves didn't have all the qualities you seek,
I settled for the one above. Cheap black fleece gloves from M&S over my
usual padded mitts.

--
congokid
Eating out in London? Read my tips...
http://congokid.com

congokid said:

Cheap black fleece gloves from M&S over my
usual padded mitts.

Seconded. Whatever gloves you get, they'll be too warm, too cold, too
bulky, too thin, too leaky or too sweaty ('breathable' things only
breathe when they're more humid on the inside than the outside, so
they're useless in rain). Not only that, but as manufacturers reckon
hands only come in three sizes, they'll be too tight after a mile, or
the fingers will be too long. If you don't break them, you'll lose
them.

So, get some padded mitts (mesh-backed weightlifter's fingerless gloves
are the same thing, and about a third of the price), and some really
cheap knitted gloves (Primark?) to go on top when it's cold.

Now, if anyone knows where I can get any extra-wide shoes that don't
take three days to dry out, I'd be grateful. I've got overshoes, but
the buses have found a way round them.

Josey said:

I know it's been mulled over before, I read the archives, but nothing really
of help.

I need to get some new (autumn/winter) gloves, but want multi-purpose so
they need to be:

Waterproof
Breathable
Warm
Not too warm
have "hi vis" stripes
not too expensive.

Not too demanding I know.

I've wandered into my LBS, and Specialized Radiate and Deflect catch my eye,
only one's a bit thick and the other's not waterproof.
I'd prefer to pay less too!

What's good?

thanks,

Jc.

Ski gloves. Cheaper, 'cos there's more choice, and warmer than any bike
glove I've seen and there's quite a few breathable and water proof
versions out there. And 'cos they're made so you can grip the ski poles
there's some padding and tougher material across the palms.

Laters,

Marz

In article <[email hidden]>

Marz said:

Josey said:

I know it's been mulled over before, I read the archives, but nothing really
of help.

I need to get some new (autumn/winter) gloves, but want multi-purpose so
they need to be:

Waterproof
Breathable
Warm
Not too warm
have "hi vis" stripes
not too expensive.

Not too demanding I know.

I've wandered into my LBS, and Specialized Radiate and Deflect catch my eye,
only one's a bit thick and the other's not waterproof.
I'd prefer to pay less too!

What's good?

thanks,

Jc.

Ski gloves. Cheaper, 'cos there's more choice, and warmer than any bike
glove I've seen

Which is one of the problems mentioned in the OP's list.

Quoted message said:

and there's quite a few breathable and water proof versions out there.

I wonder how many people ski in the rain.

Quoted message said:

And 'cos they're made so you can grip the ski poles
there's some padding and tougher material across the palms.

IME they also tend to make it difficult to manipulate anything that
isn't ski pole shaped, like gear and brake levers.

in message <[email hidden]>, Josey

('nospam@josey') said:

I know it's been mulled over before, I read the archives, but nothing
really of help.

I need to get some new (autumn/winter) gloves, but want multi-purpose so
they need to be:

Waterproof
Breathable
Warm
Not too warm
have "hi vis" stripes
not too expensive.

Not too demanding I know.

I've wandered into my LBS, and Specialized Radiate and Deflect catch my
eye, only one's a bit thick and the other's not waterproof.
I'd prefer to pay less too!

What's good?

This is one of those personal things. I have a pair of Altura winter
gloves, like these:
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/Default.aspx?ProdID=5360020604
Made in Scotland for Scottish weather, they are all the things you ask for.
However, I find that I can wear them only for the first half hour of a
ride, then my hands overheat. They're great for those really miserable
mornings in winter, though.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

<p>Schroedinger's cat is <blink><strong>NOT</strong></blink> dead.</p>

Josey' nospam@josey said:

I need to get some new (autumn/winter) gloves, but want multi-purpose so
they need to be:

Quoted message said:

Waterproof
Breathable
Warm
Not too warm
have "hi vis" stripes
not too expensive.

I have a pair of Castelli gloves which seems to fit most of your
criteria.

I think they are these (though mine are red):
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/details.asp?D=C&Cat=GLOVES&Section=ZGLO&GenCode=CASTZGLO0200

The blurb says water resistant but it seems quite water proof.
The fleece lining is very thin - the material feels a bit like thin
neoprene with a somewhat soft inner side, not like different layers.
Most of the palm has some sort of grippy material, and there's a
reflective strip on the back of the hand.

My only complaint is that the fingers have quite a lot of seams and some
of them feel a bit awkward on the 'bent.

Roos

congokid said:

Having found most winter gloves didn't have all the qualities you seek,
I settled for the one above. Cheap black fleece gloves from M&S over my
usual padded mitts.

--
congokid

M&S fleece gloves for me too, with Altura liner gloves when it's really
cold.

Don't be too bothered about water resistance. I've found over very many
years, and more pairs of gloves, that the very best compromise is
fleece gloves with a Thinsulate lining.

Make sure that the gloves are a bit bigger than you usually wear cos
the thumbs are generally too short and with your thumb under the bars
it can pull the tip of the thumb hard onto the end of your thumb (does
that make sense?) and the reduction of circulation that ensues is the
biggest cause of chilling. IME

They do down to zero degrees just fine and after that a pair of nylon
mitts lined with wooly stuff on top copes with temps down below even
-10C. Outdoor shop bargain bin. Only needed them a few times over the
years but worth thinking about if you're determined to go out in REAL
cold/wet/snowing/ etc conditions.

Robert

We have had M&S Hi-Loft gloves for my partner the last few years.

The padding 'bottoms out' providing a good grip and they seem fairly
wind resistant. The inner fleece fits snugly.

They only seem to come in two sizes though.

--
Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
Edgware.

"squeaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

congokid said:

Having found most winter gloves didn't have all the qualities you
seek, I settled for the one above. Cheap black fleece gloves from M&S
over my usual padded mitts.

--
congokid

M&S fleece gloves for me too, with Altura liner gloves when it's
really cold.

TK-Max has served me well for winter gloves for a number of years

Josey said:

I know it's been mulled over before, I read the archives, but nothing really
of help.

I need to get some new (autumn/winter) gloves, but want multi-purpose so
they need to be:

Waterproof
Breathable
Warm
Not too warm
have "hi vis" stripes
not too expensive.

Altura Shield, right up to, but not including "not too expensive"

Rob Morley said:

Quoted message said:

and there's quite a few breathable and water proof versions out there.

I wonder how many people ski in the rain.

Not many, but I think, maybe, and I could be wrong, but if you shove
your hand into a pile of snow you might get a wet hand, hmmmm.
Bonehead.

Laters,

Marz

I use ski glove liners - only £2 or so. Stretchy, light and
comfortable. Not waterproof but your hands don't seem to get too cold
as long as you are moving. If really cold then 2 pairs. Proper gloves
always seem to be problematic - uncomfortable for long periods, cause
pins and needles etc or simply too warm.

cheers
Jacob

On 14 Sep 2006 03:48:39 -0700, "sothach" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Josey said:

I know it's been mulled over before, I read the archives, but nothing really
of help.

I need to get some new (autumn/winter) gloves, but want multi-purpose so
they need to be:

Waterproof
Breathable
Warm
Not too warm
have "hi vis" stripes
not too expensive.

Altura Shield, right up to, but not including "not too expensive"

I know it's not the done thing, but I wear black "gentlemens" leather
gloves in winter. Not cheap but they've lasted ten years so far and
are waterproof enough and provide lots of protection for riding
off-road e.g. scrapes and falls.

I know people say they are difficult to deal with if they get wet but
it's really not the case as they rarely get soaked through. A bit of
dubbin once a year helps to waterproof them and make them more supple.

Josey said:

I need to get some new (autumn/winter) gloves, but want multi-purpose so
they need to be:

Go for the layered approach, same as with clothing.
I have some thin liner gloves and some thick fleecies.
Cool - wear liners
Cold - wear fleecies
Brass Monkeys - wear both

The liners will also fit under padded mits for bumpy rides

Quoting Marz <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Rob Morley said:

Quoted message said:

and there's quite a few breathable and water proof versions out there.

I wonder how many people ski in the rain.

Not many, but I think, maybe, and I could be wrong, but if you shove
your hand into a pile of snow you might get a wet hand, hmmmm.
Bonehead.

The only bonehead here is the person who can't tell the difference between
snow, which requires heat to warm it up before it can soak into things,
and rain.
--
David Damerell <[email hidden]> flcl?
Today is Teleute, September.

"normanwisdom" <[email hidden]>typed

Quoted message said:

I use ski glove liners - only £2 or so. Stretchy, light and
comfortable. Not waterproof but your hands don't seem to get too cold
as long as you are moving. If really cold then 2 pairs. Proper gloves
always seem to be problematic - uncomfortable for long periods, cause
pins and needles etc or simply too warm.

Quoted message said:

cheers
Jacob

I used glove liners under track mitts.

Not waterproof though.

--
Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
Edgware.

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Marz said:

Rob Morley said:

Quoted message said:

and there's quite a few breathable and water proof versions out there.

I wonder how many people ski in the rain.

Not many, but I think, maybe, and I could be wrong, but if you shove
your hand into a pile of snow you might get a wet hand, hmmmm.

The conditions for which a ski glove is designed are very different than
those that will be encountered by a cyclist in a typical English winter.
The 'waterproofness' is, as you say, only intended to shed the
occasional bit of melting snow, the 'breathability' may work fine in low
humidity, but it won't do anything in a downpour.

Quoted message said:

Bonehead.

Laters,

Marz

I'll just call you Bonehead.