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Why I shouldn't (or should) be a roadie.

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  1. I've recently been doing mostly MTB trails riding instead or road riding
    (due to moving 5 minutes away from the Bunya State Forest & I just couldn't
    resist) but I've started to wonder in view of the increasing numbers of
    psychopaths & druggies on the road (http://tinyurl.com/ysvoxg) why I just
    don't stick to the trails all of the time?
    Offroad also has these advantages:
    * I don't have to get up early to beat traffic.
    * Wind speed or direction isn't a factor because I'm shielded by bush and
    traveling too slow most of the time for it to be too much of an assist or
    nuisance anyway.
    * I'm probably 10 times more likely to have a spill offroad but the injuries
    are likely to be 10 times less severe.
    * I can wear a camelback and still be a scene queen. :-)
    * Less likely to get punctures from bogan droppings

    I grew up riding on the road so I'm not frightened in traffic or anything
    like that but common sense tells me that stuff happens. However, I really
    enjoy road riding. Yes, I love the bikes and I love the thrill of the faster
    speed but I can get that from MTBs to a similar extent so I'm not completely
    sure what the attraction is. I just know that it's there and won't be easy
    to shake (if I wanted to).
    I was going to buy a reasonable quality road bike when I reach my weight
    loss goal but I'm starting to think maybe I should be looking at a higher
    end MTB instead. I'd be interested to hear any thoughts on which code other
    cyclists prefer and why, assuming of course you have access to both and have
    a choice.

    --
    www.ozcableguy.com
    www.oztechnologies.com

  2. OzCableguy said:

    I've recently been doing mostly MTB trails riding instead or road riding
    (due to moving 5 minutes away from the Bunya State Forest & I just couldn't
    resist) but I've started to wonder in view of the increasing numbers of
    psychopaths & druggies on the road (http://tinyurl.com/ysvoxg) why I just
    don't stick to the trails all of the time?
    Offroad also has these advantages:
    * I don't have to get up early to beat traffic.
    * Wind speed or direction isn't a factor because I'm shielded by bush and
    traveling too slow most of the time for it to be too much of an assist or
    nuisance anyway.
    * I'm probably 10 times more likely to have a spill offroad but the injuries
    are likely to be 10 times less severe.
    * I can wear a camelback and still be a scene queen. :-)
    * Less likely to get punctures from bogan droppings

    I grew up riding on the road so I'm not frightened in traffic or anything
    like that but common sense tells me that stuff happens. However, I really
    enjoy road riding. Yes, I love the bikes and I love the thrill of the faster
    speed but I can get that from MTBs to a similar extent so I'm not completely
    sure what the attraction is. I just know that it's there and won't be easy
    to shake (if I wanted to).
    I was going to buy a reasonable quality road bike when I reach my weight
    loss goal but I'm starting to think maybe I should be looking at a higher
    end MTB instead. I'd be interested to hear any thoughts on which code other
    cyclists prefer and why, assuming of course you have access to both and have
    a choice.

    What do you enjoy the most? That's the key. I ride both (and track)
    and prefer road, but YMWV 🙂


  3. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I was going to buy a reasonable quality road bike when I reach my weight
    loss goal but I'm starting to think maybe I should be looking at a higher
    end MTB instead. I'd be interested to hear any thoughts on which code other
    cyclists prefer and why, assuming of course you have access to both and have
    a choice.


    Buy a good bike of each kind and you will enjoy both even more. I do
    both and it's 'horses for courses'. I find the fitness/exercise regime
    easier to manage with road riding, but then I have very quite country
    roads to do it on so it's much easier.
    Halcyon

  4. Halcyon said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I was going to buy a reasonable quality road bike when I reach my weight
    loss goal but I'm starting to think maybe I should be looking at a higher
    end MTB instead. I'd be interested to hear any thoughts on which code other
    cyclists prefer and why, assuming of course you have access to both and have
    a choice.

    Buy a good bike of each kind and you will enjoy both even more. I do
    both and it's 'horses for courses'. I find the fitness/exercise regime
    easier to manage with road riding, but then I have very quite country
    roads to do it on so it's much easier.
    Halcyon

    Yep, get both, then look for the variants - SS/fixie roadie, duallie
    etc. You can't have enough bikes.

  5. OzCableguy said:

    I've recently been doing mostly MTB trails riding instead or road riding
    (due to moving 5 minutes away from the Bunya State Forest & I just couldn't
    resist) but I've started to wonder in view of the increasing numbers of
    psychopaths & druggies on the road (http://tinyurl.com/ysvoxg) why I just
    don't stick to the trails all of the time?
    Offroad also has these advantages:
    * I don't have to get up early to beat traffic.
    * Wind speed or direction isn't a factor because I'm shielded by bush and
    traveling too slow most of the time for it to be too much of an assist or
    nuisance anyway.
    * I'm probably 10 times more likely to have a spill offroad but the injuries
    are likely to be 10 times less severe.
    * I can wear a camelback and still be a scene queen. :-)
    * Less likely to get punctures from bogan droppings

    I grew up riding on the road so I'm not frightened in traffic or anything
    like that but common sense tells me that stuff happens. However, I really
    enjoy road riding. Yes, I love the bikes and I love the thrill of the faster
    speed but I can get that from MTBs to a similar extent so I'm not completely
    sure what the attraction is. I just know that it's there and won't be easy
    to shake (if I wanted to).
    I was going to buy a reasonable quality road bike when I reach my weight
    loss goal but I'm starting to think maybe I should be looking at a higher
    end MTB instead. I'd be interested to hear any thoughts on which code other
    cyclists prefer and why, assuming of course you have access to both and have
    a choice.

    --
    www.ozcableguy.com
    www.oztechnologies.com


    I was riding MTB before I started road, and I still generally prefer MTB riding. I have a fairly nice roady (older frame w/Ultegra bits), so I don't feel bike quality is affecting my opinions. MTBing is just more my thing. That said, I get out on the roady quite often as there is nothing like going for a nice long hill ride on back roads with the MP3 player going.

    I think the answer is to get both a roady and upgrade your MTB 🙂. What are you riding at the moment, and do you feel it is holding you back? It might just be because I race MTB whereas my road riding is basically just training, but I tend to notice more difference upgrading my MTB than the roady. As long as it works and is comfy I'm not really fussed about the weight or other small performance benefits. If I had a few thousand to buy a roady I'd probably go Tiagra level and spend the rest on my MTB.

  6. OzCableguy said:

    * I'm probably 10 times more likely to have a spill offroad but the injuries
    are likely to be 10 times less severe.

    Are there going to be people around if you have a bad one?
    Traffic has its pluses.

  7. "Donga" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Yep, get both, then look for the variants - SS/fixie roadie, duallie
    etc. You can't have enough bikes.

    I like the way you think... ;-)

    --
    www.ozcableguy.com
    www.oztechnologies.com

  8. "Andrew Price" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Language is however important and some useful acquired language from the
    trails is attached - best, Andrew (who carries some of these scars)

    A Concise Dictionary of Mountain Biking


    Gold!

    --
    www.ozcableguy.com
    www.oztechnologies.com

  9. OzCableguy said:

    I like the way you think... ;-)

    N + 1

    i.e.: Man's gotta have a hobby. Correction, a Woman has gotta have a hobby.

  10. "Bleve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    What do you enjoy the most? That's the key. I ride both (and track)
    and prefer road, but YMWV 🙂

    Yep, I do love both and I wouldn't be trading one for the other but I would
    like to choose which one to put more effort and $$ into. I just retired my
    beater/ride to the shops bike (needs too many repairs) and made my "road
    bike" (a hybrid) more of a tourer/commuter so I can still use it for
    training duties as well as for all the chores. This leaves a gap now for a
    better/faster road bike but I can also see myself wanting to upgrade the MTB
    sometime within the next year. I guess a decision will present itself when
    the time comes and there's probably middle ground where I can have my cake
    and eat it too even if it's a slightly smaller cake...

    I guess another question is that although I've always believed that
    statistically there is very little risk in road cycling, should I ever fall
    victim to that risk, are the consequences too great? And do I have a duty to
    my wife, kids & employees not to take that risk, however small & unlikely it
    may be?
    OTOH with that kind of thinking I shouldn't ever get into a car as I'm far
    more likely to come to grief with 4 wheels & petrol than I am on a bike.
    Case closed...

    --
    www.ozcableguy.com
    www.oztechnologies.com

  11. cfsmtb said:

    i.e.: Man's gotta have a hobby. Correction, a Woman has gotta have a
    hobby.

    Sat behind a woman in a crappy old Laser yesterday. Sticker on the back
    window said "My other toy has a [censored]".

    Theo

  12. I reckon you need both. With both, each bike will last longer, because
    some of the time, you'll be riding the other one.

    Convert the freshly retired beater to SS, and you'll have three bikes,
    then all you need to do is plot your way to N+1 (again).

    I quite enjoy road riding as well, but mtbs are my love, and more
    versatile.

    Tony F
    who only has mtbs, but they're set up quite differently and get used
    for different types of riding.

  13. Aeek said:

    On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 07:26:19 GMT, "OzCableguy"

    Quoted message said:

    * I'm probably 10 times more likely to have a spill offroad but the injuries
    are likely to be 10 times less severe.

    Are there going to be people around if you have a bad one?
    Traffic has its pluses.

    Yeah, what's the use of a decent off if there's nobody to see?

  14. "thefathippy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I reckon you need both. With both, each bike will last longer, because
    some of the time, you'll be riding the other one.

    Convert the freshly retired beater to SS, and you'll have three bikes,
    then all you need to do is plot your way to N+1 (again).

    SS... hmmm... yes, the main problems are with the drivetrain after all... I
    guess I shouldn't be too hasty to toss it! But then it is an uncomfortable
    old POS and I think I'd rather a cruiser type frame for an SS project.
    Perfect for tootling around the Redcliffe peninsular on a Sunday afternoon
    with the kids in tow.
    Incidentally, I hate being ignorant but what exactly is meant by N+1? I've
    only ever seen it mentioned in this context in this group and googling
    doesn't really hit the nail on the head. About the closest I get to a
    definition that fits is "N+1 Redundancy ensures maximum uptime and
    continuous availability".

    --
    www.ozcableguy.com
    www.oztechnologies.com

  15. On Mar 30, 10:32 am, "OzCableguy" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Incidentally, I hate being ignorant but what exactly is meant by N+1? I've
    only ever seen it mentioned in this context in this group and googling
    doesn't really hit the nail on the head. About the closest I get to a
    definition that fits is "N+1 Redundancy ensures maximum uptime and
    continuous availability".

    In statistical jargon, N+1 = one more than the current number.

  16. "Aeek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    OzCableguy said:

    * I'm probably 10 times more likely to have a spill offroad but the
    injuries
    are likely to be 10 times less severe.

    Are there going to be people around if you have a bad one?
    Traffic has its pluses.

    Yeah but there's also going to be no traffic around to run over my
    unconscious body either. ;-)

    --
    www.ozcableguy.com
    www.oztechnologies.com

  17. OzCableguy said:

    Incidentally, I hate being ignorant but what exactly is meant by N+1?

    N+1 is the optimum number of bikes to own.

    Basically, all of us would be happy if we had just one more bike. Except of course when we do, we're then pining for the next one.

    I've actually purged my bikes lately - I've gone from nine down to five. Yes, it hurt.

  18. suzyj said:
    OzCableguy said:

    Incidentally, I hate being ignorant but what exactly is meant by N+1?

    N+1 is the optimum number of bikes to own.

    Basically, all of us would be happy if we had just one more bike.
    Except of course when we do, we're then pining for the next one.

    I've actually purged my bikes lately - I've gone from nine down to
    five. Yes, it hurt.

    I suspect our significant others have a variation on this, the n-1 rule.

    DaveB

  19. "suzyj" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    N+1 is the optimum number of bikes to own.

    Basically, all of us would be happy if we had just one more bike.
    Except of course when we do, we're then pining for the next one.

    Ahh, that makes perfect sense. :-)

    Quoted message said:

    I've actually purged my bikes lately - I've gone from nine down to
    five. Yes, it hurt.

    I feel your pain...

    --
    www.ozcableguy.com
    www.oztechnologies.com

  20. In aus.bicycle on Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:14:32 +1000

    suzyj said:


    OzCableguy said:

    Incidentally, I hate being ignorant but what exactly is meant by N+1?

    N+1 is the optimum number of bikes to own.

    Basically, all of us would be happy if we had just one more bike.
    Except of course when we do, we're then pining for the next one.

    I have the problem but more with motorcycles than bicycles. I have 5
    motorcycles, and want #6 but the shed's very full. I've already
    re-shedded one at a friend's place in Adelaide, and I can either shed
    another there if he's game, or I have to.... sell one.

    Only have the one bicycle but I admit I am wondering about trikes.

    Zebee

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