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  1. Professional road cycling is about blood doping, steroids, corticosteroids, hydration, nutrition and rest---in that order of importance.

    While all are essential to success, none make up the performance gains more than does blood doping!

    With or without Lance---blood doping and his trainer, convicted Dr. Michele Ferrari will always be a topic of discussion.

    tcklyde said:

    Why Armstrongs doesn't win anymore:

    He's retired!

    Why don't you all talk about something else... like maybe cycling?

  2. Well, #1 they all use corticosteroids--even for the daily grind. Lance's teammates were forced into daily injections of it (4-5 injections for 3-4 weeks) of hard racing. Some of those injections were other drugs, not just corticoids.

    #2 The anti-anabolic product offer numerous advantages to a competitve athlete: pain abatement and ant-inflammatory properties.

    #3 When combined with other drugs, amphetamines )pot Belge), vasodialtors (viagra), and blood boosters, the athlete will have a sense of ephoria and invinsibilty. Inceased blood flow of over-ripe red blood cells. Both volume & capacity.

    All key to doing your best, eh?

    Anyway, Alex Zulle used them too and he finished 2nd to Lance in 1999. So too, Christophe Moreau and USPO alum Manuel Beltran- at 20-40 milligrams per day.

    Does Lance not refer to Manuel as "Tricky Beltran?"

    Are you grasping it now?

    kennf said:

    Flyer, you're mistating the facts, again. LA claimed it was a cream for saddle sores, not a saddle cream, as you have chosen to phrase it. You're right, saddle cream or chamois cream doesn't typically contain corticosteroids. There isn't much need to reduce inflammation of your saddle or shorts. But anti-inflammatory creams FOR SKIN often do contain corticosteroids.

    How exactly would an injection of an immunosuppressive/anti-inflammatory steroid improve one's time trial performance? And if LA were injected with corticosteroids, do you think the concentration would be a higher than the trace amount detected?

  3. Flyer said:


    ?

    *Lance's teammates were forced into daily injections of it (4-5 injections for 3-4 weeks) of hard racing.

    I assume you're referring to the Greg Strock et al. crowd in the late
    1980s, early 1990s. Given how they turned out, wouldn't that be proof
    that corticosteroids impair physical performance?

    *#2 The anti-anabolic product offer numerous advantages to a competitve athlete: pain abatement and ant-inflammatory properties.

    How does this improve 1 hour time trial performance?

    *#3 When combined with other drugs, amphetamines )pot Belge), vasodialtors (viagra), and blood boosters, the athlete will have a sense of ephoria and invinsibilty. Inceased blood flow of over-ripe red blood cells. Both volume & capacity.

    I'm not talking about blood boosters. What is the effect of
    corticosteroid on time trial power?

    *Does Lance not refer to Manuel as "Tricky Beltran?"

    I think his nickname is "Triki". What's your point?

    *Are you grasping it now

    Grasping what exactly. The answer to my question? No, not really.

  4. And Michele Farrari bakes cookies for the Discovery Team.

    Live Wrong!

    kennf said:

    *Lance's teammates were forced into daily injections of it (4-5 injections for 3-4 weeks) of hard racing.

    I assume you're referring to the Greg Strock et al. crowd in the late
    1980s, early 1990s. Given how they turned out, wouldn't that be proof
    that corticosteroids impair physical performance?

    *#2 The anti-anabolic product offer numerous advantages to a competitve athlete: pain abatement and ant-inflammatory properties.

    How does this improve 1 hour time trial performance?

    *#3 When combined with other drugs, amphetamines )pot Belge), vasodialtors (viagra), and blood boosters, the athlete will have a sense of ephoria and invinsibilty. Inceased blood flow of over-ripe red blood cells. Both volume & capacity.

    I'm not talking about blood boosters. What is the effect of
    corticosteroid on time trial power?

    *Does Lance not refer to Manuel as "Tricky Beltran?"

    I think his nickname is "Triki". What's your point?

    *Are you grasping it now

    Grasping what exactly. The answer to my question? No, not really.

  5. Patrick1983 said:


    you're arguments are flawed,lance is a druggie FACT

    he failed a test in 99 and got let off cos he produced a postdated prescription
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    Just because you say it's a fact and you put it in italics does not make it so.

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