When FAT Attacks

Bob in CT wrote:
:: is the headline in Newsweek. It provides a good description of
:: research into fat cells. Supposedly, fat cells release inflammatory
:: compounds, which is why an apple shape is worse than a pear shape
:: ("visceral" fat releases more inflammatory compounds). Dang
:: genetics!
::

I can't seem to figure out what is meant by an apple shape.

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:17:36 -0400, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

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Bob in CT wrote:
:: is the headline in Newsweek. It provides a good description of
:: research into fat cells. Supposedly, fat cells release inflammatory
:: compounds, which is why an apple shape is worse than a pear shape
:: ("visceral" fat releases more inflammatory compounds). Dang
:: genetics!
::

I can't seem to figure out what is meant by an apple shape.

They have a picture. If you gain weight in your legs, you're a pear; if
you gain weight around your waist (me), you're an apple. I don't see too
many pears. For me, I have almost no weight around my legs (I can see
individual quad muscles), but I'm still at least 30 pounds overweight, all
on my stomach.

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Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:17:36 -0400, Roger Zoul
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: Bob in CT wrote:
::::: is the headline in Newsweek. It provides a good description of
::::: research into fat cells. Supposedly, fat cells release
::::: inflammatory compounds, which is why an apple shape is worse than
::::: a pear shape ("visceral" fat releases more inflammatory
::::: compounds). Dang genetics!
:::::
:::
::: I can't seem to figure out what is meant by an apple shape.
:::
:::
::
:: They have a picture. If you gain weight in your legs, you're a
:: pear; if you gain weight around your waist (me), you're an apple. I
:: don't see too many pears. For me, I have almost no weight around my
:: legs (I can see individual quad muscles), but I'm still at least 30
:: pounds overweight, all on my stomach.

What if you gain weight everywhere, like me? Am I a hybrid apple/pear?

Roger,

The Apple Shape thing makes more sense when applied to female figures than
male.

Pears have big butts tapering down to a smaller waist. Apples have the big
waist and candy-apple stick legs.

For; a man the "Apple" shape is really what most of us think of as a Beer
Belly.

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Bob in CT wrote:
:: is the headline in Newsweek. It provides a good description of
:: research into fat cells. Supposedly, fat cells release inflammatory
:: compounds, which is why an apple shape is worse than a pear shape
:: ("visceral" fat releases more inflammatory compounds). Dang
:: genetics!
::

I can't seem to figure out what is meant by an apple shape.

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:35:14 -0400, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

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Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:17:36 -0400, Roger Zoul
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: Bob in CT wrote:
::::: is the headline in Newsweek. It provides a good description of
::::: research into fat cells. Supposedly, fat cells release
::::: inflammatory compounds, which is why an apple shape is worse than
::::: a pear shape ("visceral" fat releases more inflammatory
::::: compounds). Dang genetics!
:::::
:::
::: I can't seem to figure out what is meant by an apple shape.
:::
:::
::
:: They have a picture. If you gain weight in your legs, you're a
:: pear; if you gain weight around your waist (me), you're an apple. I
:: don't see too many pears. For me, I have almost no weight around my
:: legs (I can see individual quad muscles), but I'm still at least 30
:: pounds overweight, all on my stomach.

What if you gain weight everywhere, like me? Am I a hybrid apple/pear?

Interesting. Maybe. I wonder if there is a "hybrid" body type? I know
that my first girlfriend was definitely an apple -- when she gained
weight, it was all in her legs.

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:35:14 -0400, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

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Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:17:36 -0400, Roger Zoul
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: Bob in CT wrote:
::::: is the headline in Newsweek. It provides a good description of
::::: research into fat cells. Supposedly, fat cells release
::::: inflammatory compounds, which is why an apple shape is worse than
::::: a pear shape ("visceral" fat releases more inflammatory
::::: compounds). Dang genetics!
:::::
:::
::: I can't seem to figure out what is meant by an apple shape.
:::
:::
::
:: They have a picture. If you gain weight in your legs, you're a
:: pear; if you gain weight around your waist (me), you're an apple. I
:: don't see too many pears. For me, I have almost no weight around my
:: legs (I can see individual quad muscles), but I'm still at least 30
:: pounds overweight, all on my stomach.

What if you gain weight everywhere, like me? Am I a hybrid apple/pear?

Interesting. Maybe. I wonder if there is a "hybrid" body type? I know
that my first girlfriend was definitely an apple -- when she gained
weight, it was all in her legs.

then she was a classic pear.

peace,
pen

Jenny wrote:
:: Roger,
::
:: The Apple Shape thing makes more sense when applied to female
:: figures than male.
::
:: Pears have big butts tapering down to a smaller waist. Apples have
:: the big waist and candy-apple stick legs.
::
:: For; a man the "Apple" shape is really what most of us think of as a
:: Beer Belly.

Okay, that's simply enough that even I can follow it. I know lots of apple
men, but as someone who was fat from a very young age, I didn't get fat just
in my belly. I think those with belly fat are mainly those who because fat
after many years of not being fat, at least, that is my observation on it.

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:49:36 GMT, Bob in CT <[email hidden]>

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:35:14 -0400, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

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Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:17:36 -0400, Roger Zoul
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: Bob in CT wrote:
::::: is the headline in Newsweek. It provides a good description of
::::: research into fat cells. Supposedly, fat cells release
::::: inflammatory compounds, which is why an apple shape is worse than
::::: a pear shape ("visceral" fat releases more inflammatory
::::: compounds). Dang genetics!
:::::
:::
::: I can't seem to figure out what is meant by an apple shape.
:::
:::
::
:: They have a picture. If you gain weight in your legs, you're a
:: pear; if you gain weight around your waist (me), you're an apple. I
:: don't see too many pears. For me, I have almost no weight around my
:: legs (I can see individual quad muscles), but I'm still at least 30
:: pounds overweight, all on my stomach.

What if you gain weight everywhere, like me? Am I a hybrid apple/pear?

Interesting. Maybe. I wonder if there is a "hybrid" body type? I know
that my first girlfriend was definitely an apple -- when she gained
weight, it was all in her legs.

Oops! I meant Pear -- she was a Pear!

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:35:14 -0400, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

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Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:17:36 -0400, Roger Zoul
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: Bob in CT wrote:
::::: is the headline in Newsweek. It provides a good description of
::::: research into fat cells. Supposedly, fat cells release
::::: inflammatory compounds, which is why an apple shape is worse

than

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::::: a pear shape ("visceral" fat releases more inflammatory
::::: compounds). Dang genetics!
:::::
:::
::: I can't seem to figure out what is meant by an apple shape.
:::
:::
::
:: They have a picture. If you gain weight in your legs, you're a
:: pear; if you gain weight around your waist (me), you're an apple.

I

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:: don't see too many pears. For me, I have almost no weight around

my

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:: legs (I can see individual quad muscles), but I'm still at least 30
:: pounds overweight, all on my stomach.

What if you gain weight everywhere, like me? Am I a hybrid

apple/pear?

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Interesting. Maybe. I wonder if there is a "hybrid" body type? I know
that my first girlfriend was definitely an apple -- when she gained
weight, it was all in her legs.

then she was a classic pear.

peace,
pen

I know -- my dang mind went wacky at the mention of my former girlfriend
(not that there's anything wrong with her, but when you're young, you can
make incorrect picks; hopefully, I'm over that now!).

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Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:17:36 -0400, Roger Zoul
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: Bob in CT wrote:

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:: They have a picture. If you gain weight in your legs, you're a
:: pear; if you gain weight around your waist (me), you're an apple.

I

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:: don't see too many pears. For me, I have almost no weight around

my

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:: legs (I can see individual quad muscles), but I'm still at least

30

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:: pounds overweight, all on my stomach.

What if you gain weight everywhere, like me? Am I a hybrid

apple/pear?

http://www.weight-loss-i.com/body-shape.htm

HTH

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Roger Zoul said:

Jenny wrote:
:: Roger,
::
:: The Apple Shape thing makes more sense when applied to female
:: figures than male.
::
:: Pears have big butts tapering down to a smaller waist. Apples have
:: the big waist and candy-apple stick legs.
::
:: For; a man the "Apple" shape is really what most of us think of as a
:: Beer Belly.

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Okay, that's simply enough that even I can follow it. I know lots of apple
men, but as someone who was fat from a very young age, I didn't get fat just
in my belly. I think those with belly fat are mainly those who because fat
after many years of not being fat, at least, that is my observation on it.

Interesting idea. Beer-belly-guy was a not so fat guy who got fat as an
adult. Fat-all-over-guy or fat-pear-guy has been fat from a young age.

Speaking as a formerly not-fat-guy, then adult beer-belly-guy, past a
point, you do start to get fatter all over but I never had had that much
fat on my arms and legs even at my heaviest.

Dan
325/211/180
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

Daniel Hoffmeister said:

Roger Zoul said:

Jenny wrote:
:: Roger,
::
:: The Apple Shape thing makes more sense when applied to female
:: figures than male.
::
:: Pears have big butts tapering down to a smaller waist. Apples have
:: the big waist and candy-apple stick legs.
::
:: For; a man the "Apple" shape is really what most of us think of as a
:: Beer Belly.

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Okay, that's simply enough that even I can follow it. I know lots of
apple
men, but as someone who was fat from a very young age, I didn't get fat
just
in my belly. I think those with belly fat are mainly those who because
fat
after many years of not being fat, at least, that is my observation on
it.

Interesting idea. Beer-belly-guy was a not so fat guy who got fat as an
adult. Fat-all-over-guy or fat-pear-guy has been fat from a young age.

Speaking as a formerly not-fat-guy, then adult beer-belly-guy, past a
point, you do start to get fatter all over but I never had had that much
fat on my arms and legs even at my heaviest.

Dan
325/211/180
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

me neither.

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Bob in CT said:

Roger Zoul said:

Bob in CT said:

> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:17:36 -0400, Roger Zoul
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>> Bob in CT wrote:
>>>> is the headline in Newsweek. It provides a good description of
>>>> research into fat cells. Supposedly, fat cells release
>>>> inflammatory compounds, which is why an apple shape is worse
>>>> than a pear shape ("visceral" fat releases more inflammatory
>>>> compounds). Dang genetics!
>>>>
>>
>> I can't seem to figure out what is meant by an apple shape.
>>
>>
>
> They have a picture. If you gain weight in your legs, you're a
> pear; if you gain weight around your waist (me), you're an apple.
> I don't see too many pears. For me, I have almost no weight
> around my legs (I can see individual quad muscles), but I'm still
> at least 30 pounds overweight, all on my stomach.

What if you gain weight everywhere, like me? Am I a hybrid
apple/pear?

Interesting. Maybe. I wonder if there is a "hybrid" body type? I
know that my first girlfriend was definitely an apple -- when she
gained weight, it was all in her legs.

That's a pear. Think how a pear looks -- think of the female figure -- got
it?

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influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
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Roger Zoul said:

Bob in CT said:

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:17:36 -0400, Roger Zoul
<[email hidden]> wrote:

> Bob in CT wrote:
>>> is the headline in Newsweek. It provides a good description of
>>> research into fat cells. Supposedly, fat cells release
>>> inflammatory compounds, which is why an apple shape is worse than
>>> a pear shape ("visceral" fat releases more inflammatory
>>> compounds). Dang genetics!
>>>
>
> I can't seem to figure out what is meant by an apple shape.
>
>

They have a picture. If you gain weight in your legs, you're a
pear; if you gain weight around your waist (me), you're an apple. I
don't see too many pears. For me, I have almost no weight around my
legs (I can see individual quad muscles), but I'm still at least 30
pounds overweight, all on my stomach.

What if you gain weight everywhere, like me? Am I a hybrid
apple/pear?

You're a papple, perhaps? :-)
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nimue

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influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

Great T & A requires great DNA.
Penn (of Penn and Teller)

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Bob in CT wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:17:36 -0400, Roger Zoul
>> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>> Bob in CT wrote:
>>>>> is the headline in Newsweek. It provides a good description of
>>>>> research into fat cells. Supposedly, fat cells release
>>>>> inflammatory compounds, which is why an apple shape is worse
>>>>> than a pear shape ("visceral" fat releases more inflammatory
>>>>> compounds). Dang genetics!
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I can't seem to figure out what is meant by an apple shape.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> They have a picture. If you gain weight in your legs, you're a
>> pear; if you gain weight around your waist (me), you're an apple.
>> I don't see too many pears. For me, I have almost no weight
>> around my legs (I can see individual quad muscles), but I'm still
>> at least 30 pounds overweight, all on my stomach.

What if you gain weight everywhere, like me? Am I a hybrid
apple/pear?

Interesting. Maybe. I wonder if there is a "hybrid" body type? I
know that my first girlfriend was definitely an apple -- when she
gained weight, it was all in her legs.

then she was a classic pear.

I'm a classic pear. Yep -- me and J. Lo. THAT is a sexy pear shape. J. Lo
is pear-a-rific! Me, well, I am about two pears right now -- I need to pare
down! (I must stop! Must stop!).

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peace,
pen

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nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

Great T & A requires great DNA.
Penn (of Penn and Teller)

nimue said:

Bob in CT said:

Roger Zoul said:

Bob in CT wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:17:36 -0400, Roger Zoul
>> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>> Bob in CT wrote:
>>>>> is the headline in Newsweek. It provides a good description of
>>>>> research into fat cells. Supposedly, fat cells release
>>>>> inflammatory compounds, which is why an apple shape is worse
>>>>> than a pear shape ("visceral" fat releases more inflammatory
>>>>> compounds). Dang genetics!
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I can't seem to figure out what is meant by an apple shape.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> They have a picture. If you gain weight in your legs, you're a
>> pear; if you gain weight around your waist (me), you're an apple.
>> I don't see too many pears. For me, I have almost no weight
>> around my legs (I can see individual quad muscles), but I'm still
>> at least 30 pounds overweight, all on my stomach.

What if you gain weight everywhere, like me? Am I a hybrid
apple/pear?

Interesting. Maybe. I wonder if there is a "hybrid" body type? I
know that my first girlfriend was definitely an apple -- when she
gained weight, it was all in her legs.

That's a pear. Think how a pear looks -- think of the female figure --
got
it?

I know, I know. It was a slip, by Freud.

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I'm a classic pear. Yep -- me and J. Lo. THAT is a sexy pear shape. J. Lo
is pear-a-rific! Me, well, I am about two pears right now -- I need to pare
down! (I must stop! Must stop!).

I am UNQUESTIONABLY a pear shape. With my weight dropping, it becomes even more
apparent as my breasts get smaller and smaller (a breast easily fits in one hand
(my own) now ;-) Proportionally, from the waist up I've always been about 2
sizes smaller than from the waist down.

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Bob in CT said:

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:17:36 -0400, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

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Bob in CT wrote:
:: is the headline in Newsweek. It provides a good description of
:: research into fat cells. Supposedly, fat cells release inflammatory
:: compounds, which is why an apple shape is worse than a pear shape
:: ("visceral" fat releases more inflammatory compounds). Dang
:: genetics!
::

I can't seem to figure out what is meant by an apple shape.

They have a picture. If you gain weight in your legs, you're a pear; if
you gain weight around your waist (me), you're an apple. I don't see too
many pears. For me, I have almost no weight around my legs (I can see

Women are more likely to be pear shaped. At least pre-menopausal women,
are. Women who gain weight later in life seem to be more likely to go for
the apple shape (and, of course, IR and diabetic women).

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individual quad muscles), but I'm still at least 30 pounds overweight, all
on my stomach.

I can get absolutely bony on my top half, but, short of surgical
intervention, my thighs are always going to have some jiggle to 'em.

Martha

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