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  1. Jon Senior said:

    Andy Dingley [email hidden] opined the
    following...

    Quoted message said:

    However a radial lacing puts the spoke tension up, and
    that makes building harder.

    There's also the risk of breaking a fragile rim.

    I don't see how this is related to spoke lacing. Fragile
    hub flange maybe...

    In that case there's a good book your could usefully read.
    Radial lacing puts a large tension on the hub flange that
    tangential lacing does not. Which is why plenty of
    manufacturers don't warranty it for their hubs.

    James

  2. James Annan said:

    In that case there's a good book your could usefully read.
    Radial lacing puts a large tension on the hub flange that
    tangential lacing does not.

    Dept. of slightly related factoids:

    The latest Windcheetah has the different sides of the front
    wheels laced up differently to take advantage of the
    relative merits of each. From their web site, "two piece hub
    design using straight pull spokes, radial on the outer edge
    to counteract the high lateral loading generated by the
    Windcheetah's renowned cornering prowess, and tangentially
    spoked on the inside flange to handle the considerable
    braking torque".

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111
    ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382
    640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net
    [email hidden] dundee.ac.uk~pjclinch

  3. In article said:
    Jon Senior said:

    Andy Dingley [email hidden] opined the
    following...

    Quoted message said:

    However a radial lacing puts the spoke tension up, and
    that makes building harder.

    There's also the risk of breaking a fragile rim.

    I don't see how this is related to spoke lacing. Fragile
    hub flange maybe...

    In that case there's a good book your could usefully read.
    Radial lacing puts a large tension on the hub flange that
    tangential lacing does not. Which is why plenty of
    manufacturers don't warranty it for their hubs.

    How is that related to a fragile _rim_ breaking? The
    difference at the hub is obvious, but does it really make
    that much difference at the rim?

  4. James Annan [email hidden] opined the
    following...

    Quoted message said:
    Jon Senior said:

    Andy Dingley [email hidden] opined the
    following...

    Quoted message said:

    However a radial lacing puts the spoke tension up, and
    that makes building harder.

    There's also the risk of breaking a fragile rim.

    I don't see how this is related to spoke lacing. Fragile
    hub flange maybe...

    In that case there's a good book your could usefully read.
    Radial lacing puts a large tension on the hub flange that
    tangential lacing does not. Which is why plenty of
    manufacturers don't warranty it for their hubs.

    If it's The Bicycle Wheel by Jobst Brandt then I've read it.
    Please re- read both my post and the previous one, and see
    if you can spot your mistake. :-)

    Jon

  5. Jon Senior said:

    If it's The Bicycle Wheel by Jobst Brandt then I've read
    it. Please re- read both my post and the previous one, and
    see if you can spot your mistake. :-)

    Sorry, I read "rim" as "flange", of course - another case of
    beer-induced over-hasty posting. People _usually_ talk about
    flanges breaking when radial lacing is discussed!

    James

  6. On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 06:31:25 +0900, James Annan
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    I read "rim" as "flange",

    Less of that dirty talk, this is a family newsgroup!

    Guy
    --
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    chapmancentral.co.ukchapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

  7. On 08 Jun 2004 17:23:32 +0100 (BST), [email hidden] (Alan

    Braggins) said:

    How is that related to a fragile _rim_ breaking?

    Because I can't type.

    OTOH, I haven't broken a hub flange in years, but I'm still
    annoyed over this damn Mavic.

    --
    Smert' spamionam

  8. James Annan said:


    Sorry, I read "rim" as "flange", of course - another case
    of beer-induced over-hasty posting.

    Kirin, Sapporo, Ashahi, Suntory or a nice ji-biru?

    Tony

  9. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    James Annan said:


    Sorry, I read "rim" as "flange", of course - another
    case of beer-induced over-hasty posting.

    Kirin, Sapporo, Ashahi, Suntory or a nice ji-biru?

    I'd like to think there is a cyclist's beer in Japan that's
    called Keirin :-)
    --
    Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen

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