What a disappointment



On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:20:50 +0000, Peter Clinch
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>> Well, it is possible to have a conversation and not "hit on" a woman.
>> You can also have a conversation and find out if you have anything in
>> common and then just ask someone if they want to meet you for coffee
>> or whatever. That's not "hitting", it's just "meeting". They accept or
>> decline, life goes on.

>
>Or (sorry if this sounds a bit radical...) you could just exchange
>greetings and minor pleasantries of the sort that just oil the world on
>its way, irrespective of the sex of the other rider! You could think of
>the other rider as "person on bike" rather than "man" or "woman"...


That would prevent me from hitting on the women!
 
Jon Meineke wrote:
> "still just me" <[email protected]> wrote
>> 'bent riders are at the wrong height to converse,

>
> Perhaps a low racer recumbent side-by-side with an 'ordinary' might present
> a challenge to easily audible exchanges....


butbutbut, I want to know what the weather is like up there!

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"the grinning buddy bear carries a fork." - g.d.
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> Frankly, I have always enjoyed watching women talk to other women.

They seem
> to know instinctively how to be friends with one another, whereas we men
> seem to know instinctively only how to hate one another - with murder always
> looming in the background. Sociology 101 - anyone?


Gentlemen do it at twenty paces with pistols at dawn.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
 
"still just me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> That would prevent me from hitting on the women!
>


of all people

how's are they different from any other cranks

no you don't know what you're doing

mk5000

" Our babies know no pain or sorrow, they're in God's loving embrace,
Someday we'll be together again, in an awesome, loving place.
This is but a chapter, of God's perfect plan,
Who am I to question him, as he reaches for my hand?"--ashley's mom
 
marika who? wrote:
> "still just me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> That would prevent me from hitting on the women!
>>

>
> of all people
>
> how's are they different from any other cranks...


Speaking of cranks, I am thinking of trying some in the 150-155 mm
length range on one of my bicycles.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> marika who? wrote:
>> "still just me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>>> That would prevent me from hitting on the women!
>>>

>>
>> of all people
>>
>> how's are they different from any other cranks...

>
> Speaking of cranks, I am thinking of trying some in the 150-155 mm length
> range on one of my bicycles.
>


Wow, and I thought *I* was short!
 
"Resound" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Tom Sherman" wrote


> > Speaking of cranks, I am thinking of trying some in the 150-155 mm length
> > range on one of my bicycles.
> >

>
> Wow, and I thought *I* was short!


It's an error to conclude anything about Tom's height from his crank
length. Short cranks are rather useful when the BB is infront of the
hips instead of below. Faster speed but lower torque can result in
similar power output but with less strain on the joints.

Ted

--
Ted Bennett
 
Ted Bennett wrote:
> "Resound" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Tom Sherman" wrote

>
>>> Speaking of cranks, I am thinking of trying some in the 150-155 mm length
>>> range on one of my bicycles.
>>>

>> Wow, and I thought *I* was short!

>
> It's an error to conclude anything about Tom's height from his crank
> length. Short cranks are rather useful when the BB is infront of the
> hips instead of below. Faster speed but lower torque can result in
> similar power output but with less strain on the joints.


Exactly! At least many recumbent riders report preferring shorter cranks
on a recumbent than they would want on an upright.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"marika" <[email protected]> writes:
>
> "still just me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> That would prevent me from hitting on the women!
>>

>
> of all people
>
> how's are they different from any other cranks
>
> no you don't know what you're doing


There's this song by Yes, called "And You And I"
(some [bootleg live concert] versions have some
real honkin' keyboarding by Rick Wakeman.)
It kinda describes social stuff.

That tune is my personal Anthem.

And it has absolutely nothing to do with
exploiting people; au contraire!


cheers,
Tom


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"Tom Keats" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> There's this song by Yes, called "And You And I"
> (some [bootleg live concert] versions have some
> real honkin' keyboarding by Rick Wakeman.)


it would have been a pleasure to see that performed at any one of their fun
little events!
Unfortunately, I can't remember whether or not I had ever seen them live.
Maybe I did, I just don't remember

I do enjoy my memory of imagining I had seen them


> It kinda describes social stuff.
>
> That tune is my personal Anthem.
>
> And it has absolutely nothing to do with
> exploiting people; au contraire!


cool, it's a nice song

mk5000

"Steph, could you please explain to my co-worker why exactly a picture of
people holding up knitting would make me burst into tears?"--amie
 
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>
> Eleven (11) women riding RECUMBENTS within three (3) linear miles?
>
> --
>


*THIS* is what this group has devolved to. Sad, but I'm glad I'm no
longer part of it

I hope you're not getting much of a salary

mk5000

"I've tried not to begrudge them
their industry, this reminder of what
I haven't done.
Even now,the mound is a blister on my heart,
a red and humming swarm."--natasha tretheway, monument
 
"Tom Keats" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> You must live in a very special place.


As a consequence, If there is one person who I hate more than any one else
on Usenet,
it's him

mk5000

"Grief might be easy
if there wasn't still such beauty--
would be far simpler if the silvermaple didn't thrust
its leaves into flame,"--redemption song, kevin young
 
marika who? wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>> Eleven (11) women riding RECUMBENTS within three (3) linear miles?

>
> *THIS* is what this group has devolved to. Sad, but I'm glad I'm no
> longer part of it


"This group"? Could we have some more indefinite references please!

> I hope you're not getting much of a salary


If I wrote as badly as some people posting to this thread, I would have
no salary.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
 
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "This group"?


the one a 4/14 broadcast of american enterprise institute

>Could we have some more indefinite references please!


are you him?

***

I'm here to please

mk5000

"Or when Casanova took up the platter
of linguine in squid's ink and slid the stuff
out the window, telling his startled companion,
"The perfected lover does not eat."--
Galway Kinnell , the Pleasures of Ordinary Things
 
marika who? wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> "This group"?

>
> the one a 4/14 broadcast of american enterprise institute
>
>> Could we have some more indefinite references please!

>
> are you him?
>
> ***
>
> I'm here to please


Please use definite references then.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"marika" <[email protected]> writes:
>
> "Tom Keats" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> There's this song by Yes, called "And You And I"
>> (some [bootleg live concert] versions have some
>> real honkin' keyboarding by Rick Wakeman.)

>
> it would have been a pleasure to see that performed at any one of their fun
> little events!


Oooh, yeah. It was.

> Unfortunately, I can't remember whether or not I had ever seen them live.
> Maybe I did, I just don't remember


The original "Elephant Grass" of the early '70s kinda
fogged my memories of the time up a little, too. As
well as window pane and yellow sunshine, and that
mescaline that was stepped-on with Fry's Cocoa. And
various hashish's (I've always been particularly fond
of red Lebanese because the buzz is ... light & happy,
rather than oppressive like the darker varieties,
which kinda make me feel like I'm submersed.)

There was also Jethro Tull, Led Zep, Pink Floyd (I still
think Umma Gumma is their masterpiece album,) Wishbone
Ash, Ten Years After, and several other bands who's
careers got kickstarts from touring with the Rolling Stones.
But I'm paying the price now, as my sense of hearing ain't
what it used to be, eh?[*]

> I do enjoy my memory of imagining I had seen them
>
>
>> It kinda describes social stuff.
>>
>> That tune is my personal Anthem.
>>
>> And it has absolutely nothing to do with
>> exploiting people; au contraire!

>
> cool, it's a nice song


I find it very uplifting and optimistic and cheery.
That's what this world needs. I dunno why so many
people feel compelled to be downers, dragging others
down with 'em. There're too many Gloomy Gus's around.


cheers,
Tom

[*] for edification purposes: the Canadian "eh" is
always interrogative. It's an abbreviated, tacit
way of asking: "Don't you agree?" Or: "Y'know
what I mean?" Or: "Y'know what I'm sayin'?"

It can be applied not only in Canadian English,
but also in Chinook trade jargon. Pretty good, eh?

--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
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"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> marika who? wrote:


>
> Please use definite references then.
>



okay but I forgot what we were talking about so I will tell you a story
because I was diverted in my mission of trying to use definite references
and you never answered whether you are him

I have this really bad tendency of having coffee spill all over the car. I
can put a lid on it, I can put in a carrier, I can put it in the alleged
drink ring thing. No matter where I put it, the stuff spills.

And it almost always manages to hit my ignition somewhere!

So I think my car has finally had enough of this coffee thing. The lock
seized up. I don't know if it is because it is snowing here, or because it
just had enough. But the key would not turn. And I was stuck at work, left
after everyone else had gone. Not one person around in the parking lot and
it is dark.

So Guess What I did. I had a quart jar of organic juice, and I poured it
out on the ground. I went back to work and poured in a pile of water.
Microwaved it. Boiled it. Poured it in the lock.

And drove to K mart where I made this guy in a racing cap find me WD 40
because I could not find it myself. No he did not work there. I just
figured anyone who looked like this would LOVE it if I asked him a guy
thing.

yay it seems to have worked.
well let us see. Maybe it won't still be working tomorrow.

does cream and coffee rust?

mk5000

" No, you're thinking of Cocoa Puffs"--Loren Sanders
 
"Tom Keats" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>,
> "marika" <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>> "Tom Keats" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>
>>> There's this song by Yes, called "And You And I"
>>> (some [bootleg live concert] versions have some
>>> real honkin' keyboarding by Rick Wakeman.)

>>
>> it would have been a pleasure to see that performed at any one of their
>> fun
>> little events!

>
> Oooh, yeah. It was.
>
>> Unfortunately, I can't remember whether or not I had ever seen them live.
>> Maybe I did, I just don't remember

>
> The original "Elephant Grass" of the early '70s kinda
> fogged my memories of the time up a little, too. As
> well as window pane and yellow sunshine, and that
> mescaline that was stepped-on with Fry's Cocoa. And
> various hashish's (I've always been particularly fond
> of red Lebanese because the buzz is ... light & happy,
> rather than oppressive like the darker varieties,
> which kinda make me feel like I'm submersed.)


I'm a nacheral born idiot. I don't have an excuse like that. But I did ask
Tom the other one to consider whether Cocoa puffs might rust my ignition.
He probably won't answer me because Cocoa puffs are not known to be a direct
reference.

>
> There was also Jethro Tull, Led Zep, Pink Floyd (I still
> think Umma Gumma is their masterpiece album,) Wishbone
> Ash, Ten Years After, and several other bands who's
> careers got kickstarts from touring with the Rolling Stones.
> But I'm paying the price now, as my sense of hearing ain't
> what it used to be, eh?[*]


I've definitely seen Jethro Tull to the extent I remember them -- Thick as
a Brick before it was released.
Pink Floyd probably UG but all i remember is a gold disc masquerading as
sun. ALthough I might be channeling another person's concert experience
with that memory.
I'm sure if I tried to remember more stuff it might come to me


>
>> I do enjoy my memory of imagining I had seen them
>>
>>
>>> It kinda describes social stuff.
>>>
>>> That tune is my personal Anthem.
>>>
>>> And it has absolutely nothing to do with
>>> exploiting people; au contraire!

>>
>> cool, it's a nice song

>
> I find it very uplifting and optimistic and cheery.
> That's what this world needs. I dunno why so many
> people feel compelled to be downers, dragging others
> down with 'em. There're too many Gloomy Gus's around.



Being slavic and all, gloomy is a default setting.


> [*] for edification purposes: the Canadian "eh" is
> always interrogative. It's an abbreviated, tacit
> way of asking: "Don't you agree?" Or: "Y'know
> what I mean?" Or: "Y'know what I'm sayin'?"


been there. get it.

>
> It can be applied not only in Canadian English,
> but also in Chinook trade jargon. Pretty good, eh?



Kiwi is a dumb name for a gay guy's cat, eh? Like that, eh?

mk5000

"I stepped in and pulled the curtain closed. I'd been thinking
of a split ticket, for some reason, though now,
out of simple pique or pure American patriotism,

I voted, yet again, a straight ticket. So there I was then,
outside, seeming to myself at least
a hero in the contact sport of democracy,"--robert wrigley, partisan
 
"Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> It's actually a way of announcing that you are an idiot who is talking to
> another idiot. But does not that describe all Canadians.

just the ones at MIT.

>They skulk like the cowards they are behind the might and the glory of the
>US.
>
> Canada should revert to Dominion status so that the English could lord it
> over them once again.


The dominion's real name is Virginia

>Canadians don't mind being lorded over, especially working class stiffs
>like Tom Keats who labors away like Sisyphus on the docks of soggy old
>Vancouver, BC. - a working class pretender to intellectualism!


They do have some great comedians, though. It took me a real long time to
remember the ones from Britian that I liked.
The last name Ramming is known to people of
the UK
circa 50's he was an announcer and had something to do with Peter Sellers
comedy troup. I can't remember the name of that group right now tho.


That name has been bothering me for years, til it finally dawned on me what
it
means. Ramming is a part of the word progRAMMING plus the usual sex
connotations


>
> Is Marika a female?


Not really important to figure it out

>'It' certainly is starting to sound more and more like one - scatterbrained
>like they all are.


What is more important is that I have a new "best friend", in
you Ed
>


mk5000

"However, there
are alot of legal issues that I'm not sure of:
if I change her name can I still use her dialogue
can I use the same "situations", places, etc.
can I use samples of her writing (email, etc.)
I don't want to finish the book and then be sued for libel. Can someone
help me with these questions."--indigo
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"marika" <[email protected]> writes:

>> There was also Jethro Tull, Led Zep, Pink Floyd (I still
>> think Umma Gumma is their masterpiece album,) Wishbone
>> Ash, Ten Years After, and several other bands who's
>> careers got kickstarts from touring with the Rolling Stones.
>> But I'm paying the price now, as my sense of hearing ain't
>> what it used to be, eh?[*]

>
> I've definitely seen Jethro Tull to the extent I remember them -- Thick as
> a Brick before it was released.
> Pink Floyd probably UG but all i remember is a gold disc masquerading as
> sun. ALthough I might be channeling another person's concert experience
> with that memory.
> I'm sure if I tried to remember more stuff it might come to me


My friendly suggestion is: don't strain your brain over the past.
It's already done.

> Kiwi is a dumb name for a gay guy's cat, eh? Like that, eh?


There was an old Saturday Night Live b-roll of a guy
(possibly gay) up in his apartment, talking about his cat.
The cat's toy catnip mouse was named "Andy Warhol."
I liked that. Heh. I'd like to name a cat's toy catnip
mouse: "Alan Ginsberg." It'd have to be stuffed with
a /lot/ of catnip.

A Bob Dylan catnip mouse would be pretty good, too.


meow,
Tom

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Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
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