Weight weenieing

in message <[email hidden]>, SLAVE

of THE STATE (') said:

Simon Brooke said:

Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes.

wtf?

The carbon bars might have been stuffed with epo ampules. Who'd you
get the bars from?

My LBS. Cheap in the sale. I should have suspected the catch, but... shiny.
Want shiny...

--
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Morning had broken, and there was nothing we could do but wait
patiently for the RAC to arrive.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Peter Clinch said:

Morten Reippuert Knudsen said:

sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
consider a carbon bar?

<rolls_eyes>
Because it's carbon.
</rolls_eyes>

That's like asking people why they need titanium, for goodness' sake! ;-)

Titanium would be a better material for bars, IMO. Worn aluminum bars
break without warning.

Well, sometimes there is a tiny bit of creaking that you'll probably ignore.

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Fred Fredburger said:

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Morten Reippuert Knudsen

(') said:

Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote:
> I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't
> you? After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of
> metal on my race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put
> the carbon ones on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand,
> they're BBB. They must be heavier. Mustn't they?
> No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The
> aluminium bars are going back on.
sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
consider a carbon bar?

Pretty bright thing. Simon see pretty bright thing. Simon /want/ pretty
bright thing...

Adult? Moi? Mais non, m'sieu.

Remain childish, it's cheaper.

Adults ride steel bikes. With lugs. Done correctly, this requires a
custom made Rivendell frame. And you'll have to wait three years. But,
when you're an adult, you have the patience to deal with it. At least
that's what you tell yourself. Besides, it gives you time to save up to
pay for the silly thing. Which you'll need to do since adults eschew
credit card debt.

There are good frame builders everywhere. You can walk into their
shop and talk with them. In two or three months you have a frame
that is the equal of the three year frame for about the same
money. I understand that plastic frames are readily available
everywhere and excellent value.

--
Michael Press

In news:[email hidden],
Tom Crispin <[email hidden]> tweaked the
Babbage-Engine to tell us:

Quoted message said:

I love carbon bling.

I have carbon handlebars, carbon seatpost and *3* carbon bottle
holders on my tourer.

I've even considered getting one of these fitted, but I wasn't sure
the carbon seat post has the right fitting.
http://tinyurl.com/2qv79y from
www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/carbon-fibre-toilet.jpg

Depravo the Roadrat has carbon-look handlebar plugs. The bit that fits into
the end of the bar had to be padded out with gaffer tape to make 'em fit
snugly, but it's /carbon/, innit?

Well, it isn't, obv, but that's not the point :-)

--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
Hoc ardur vincere docet.

In uk.rec.cycling Simon Brooke said:

No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The aluminium
bars are going back on.

When specing my new 'expense not too much of an issue' Look
585, I compared carbon bars at 150 quid and 250g v ITM Millenium
4Ever Oversize Al bars at ~220g and 50 quid. Not much of
a choice!

The only really light carbon bars I'm aware of are the the
Zipp Sl ones at about 250 quid.

Arthur

--
Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt
The struggle of people against power is the struggle
of memory against forgetting - Milan Kundera

Michael Press said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Fred Fredburger said:

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Morten Reippuert Knudsen
([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

> Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't
>> you? After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of
>> metal on my race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put
>> the carbon ones on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand,
>> they're BBB. They must be heavier. Mustn't they?
>> No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The
>> aluminium bars are going back on.
> sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
> consider a carbon bar?
Pretty bright thing. Simon see pretty bright thing. Simon /want/ pretty
bright thing...

Adult? Moi? Mais non, m'sieu.

Remain childish, it's cheaper.

Adults ride steel bikes. With lugs. Done correctly, this requires a
custom made Rivendell frame. And you'll have to wait three years. But,
when you're an adult, you have the patience to deal with it. At least
that's what you tell yourself. Besides, it gives you time to save up to
pay for the silly thing. Which you'll need to do since adults eschew
credit card debt.

There are good frame builders everywhere. You can walk into their
shop and talk with them. In two or three months you have a frame
that is the equal of the three year frame for about the same
money. I understand that plastic frames are readily available
everywhere and excellent value.

OH, quit acting like such a balanced, well mannered, grown up! This is
RBR, for crying out loud!

In article <[email hidden]>,

Fred Fredburger said:

Michael Press said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Fred Fredburger said:

Simon Brooke wrote:
> in message <[email hidden]>, Morten Reippuert Knudsen
> ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:
>
>> Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>> I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't
>>> you? After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of
>>> metal on my race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put
>>> the carbon ones on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand,
>>> they're BBB. They must be heavier. Mustn't they?
>>> No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The
>>> aluminium bars are going back on.
>> sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
>> consider a carbon bar?
> Pretty bright thing. Simon see pretty bright thing. Simon /want/ pretty
> bright thing...
>
> Adult? Moi? Mais non, m'sieu.
Remain childish, it's cheaper.

Adults ride steel bikes. With lugs. Done correctly, this requires a
custom made Rivendell frame. And you'll have to wait three years. But,
when you're an adult, you have the patience to deal with it. At least
that's what you tell yourself. Besides, it gives you time to save up to
pay for the silly thing. Which you'll need to do since adults eschew
credit card debt.

There are good frame builders everywhere. You can walk into their
shop and talk with them. In two or three months you have a frame
that is the equal of the three year frame for about the same
money. I understand that plastic frames are readily available
everywhere and excellent value.

OH, quit acting like such a balanced, well mannered, grown up! This is
RBR, for crying out loud!

THHHHHHHHHHHHPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!

--
Michael Press

Michael Press said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Fred Fredburger said:

Michael Press said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Fred Fredburger <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Simon Brooke wrote:
>> in message <[email hidden]>, Morten Reippuert Knudsen
>> ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:
>>
>>> Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>> I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't
>>>> you? After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of
>>>> metal on my race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put
>>>> the carbon ones on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand,
>>>> they're BBB. They must be heavier. Mustn't they?
>>>> No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The
>>>> aluminium bars are going back on.
>>> sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
>>> consider a carbon bar?
>> Pretty bright thing. Simon see pretty bright thing. Simon /want/ pretty
>> bright thing...
>>
>> Adult? Moi? Mais non, m'sieu.
> Remain childish, it's cheaper.
>
> Adults ride steel bikes. With lugs. Done correctly, this requires a
> custom made Rivendell frame. And you'll have to wait three years. But,
> when you're an adult, you have the patience to deal with it. At least
> that's what you tell yourself. Besides, it gives you time to save up to
> pay for the silly thing. Which you'll need to do since adults eschew
> credit card debt.
There are good frame builders everywhere. You can walk into their
shop and talk with them. In two or three months you have a frame
that is the equal of the three year frame for about the same
money. I understand that plastic frames are readily available
everywhere and excellent value.

OH, quit acting like such a balanced, well mannered, grown up! This is
RBR, for crying out loud!

THHHHHHHHHHHHPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!

And a neener, neener, neener to you too, Sir!