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  1. I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't you?
    After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of metal on my
    race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put the carbon ones
    on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand, they're BBB. They
    must be heavier. Mustn't they?

    No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The aluminium
    bars are going back on.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    Ring of great evil
    Small one casts it into flame
    Bringing rise of Men ;; gonzoron

  2. Simon Brooke proclaimed to uk.rec.cycling ...

    Quoted message said:

    I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't
    you? After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of metal
    on my race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put the
    carbon ones on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand,
    they're BBB. They must be heavier. Mustn't they?

    No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The aluminium
    bars are going back on.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    Ring of great evil
    Small one casts it into flame
    Bringing rise of Men ;; gonzoron

    I found this with my XC mountain bike, my alu bars are 152g - i scanned
    about for carbon ones (to match my carbon cranks that I had at the time)
    and found I couldnt get any <250g.

    --
    J
    __________________________________________
    http://www.jbuckle.homeip.net << My personal site
    http://www.aoskc.com << Ainsdale Kitesurf Club

  3. Simon Brooke said:

    I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't you?
    After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of metal on my
    race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put the carbon ones
    on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand, they're BBB. They
    must be heavier. Mustn't they?

    Quoted message said:

    No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The aluminium
    bars are going back on.

    sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
    consider a carbon bar?

    --
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

    Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

  4. Simon Brooke said:

    I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't you?
    After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of metal on my
    race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put the carbon ones
    on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand, they're BBB. They
    must be heavier. Mustn't they?

    No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The aluminium
    bars are going back on.

    Hahahahaha.
    --
    JT
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  5. Morten Reippuert Knudsen said:


    sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
    consider a carbon bar?

    <rolls_eyes>
    Because it's carbon.
    </rolls_eyes>

    That's like asking people why they need titanium, for goodness' sake! ;-)

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  6. Donald Munro said the following on 16/04/2007 13:12:

    Quoted message said:

    The Deda aluminium handlebars are supposed to be around 200 grams. The
    Easton carbon ones are a bit lighter though, but I don't really trust
    carbon when it comes to attaching TT bars where the carbon might get
    compressed. Anyway these batmobile shaped carbon bars are impractical when
    it comes to attaching thing like TT bars or computer mounts.

    And just where can you put your bar-bag? :-)

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  7. Simon Brooke said:

    I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't you?
    After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of metal on my
    race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put the carbon ones
    on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand, they're BBB. They
    must be heavier. Mustn't they?

    No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The aluminium
    bars are going back on.

    The Deda aluminium handlebars are supposed to be around 200 grams. The
    Easton carbon ones are a bit lighter though, but I don't really trust
    carbon when it comes to attaching TT bars where the carbon might get
    compressed. Anyway these batmobile shaped carbon bars are impractical when
    it comes to attaching thing like TT bars or computer mounts.

  8. Peter Clinch said:
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen said:


    sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
    consider a carbon bar?

    Quoted message said:

    <rolls_eyes>
    Because it's carbon.
    </rolls_eyes>

    asuming a carbon component is better and lighter without checking
    specs?

    Quoted message said:

    That's like asking people why they need titanium, for goodness' sake! ;-)

    durability, comfort and of course craftmanship :-)

    --
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

    Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

  9. Morten Reippuert Knudsen said:

    asuming a carbon component is better and lighter without checking
    specs?

    It's _carbon_ and therefore better. (I am not being /entirely/ serious
    here, btw).

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  10. Morten Reippuert Knudsen said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't you?
    After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of metal on my
    race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put the carbon ones
    on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand, they're BBB. They
    must be heavier. Mustn't they?

    Quoted message said:

    No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The aluminium
    bars are going back on.

    sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
    consider a carbon bar?

    That seems like a lot:
    http://weightweenies.starbike.com/listings/components.php?type=roadhandlebars&sortby=real

    or the following, which also has good recommendations on cracks:
    http://www.calfeedesign.com/barstem.htm

    The only reason I can see for carbon is if you want an anatomic cross-section. I'll stick with metal.

    Dan

  11. Simon Brooke said:

    I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't you?
    After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of metal on my
    race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put the carbon ones
    on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand, they're BBB. They
    must be heavier. Mustn't they?

    No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The aluminium
    bars are going back on.

    I was recently in an auto parts store that carried replacement clutch,
    brake and accelerator pedals for your car: "Made of 100% Carbon Fiber"
    (which had to have been untrue, I think). So now my carbon fiber
    handlebars seem only just a little bit stupid, and I can keep them.

  12. Peter Clinch said:


    It's _carbon_ and therefore better. (I am not being /entirely/
    serious here, btw).

    I think that if "carbon" was known as carbon reinforced PLASTIC, and didn't
    have that lovely black weave, no-one would want it. (you'll note that no-one
    ever asks "can I get that carbon (X) in blue"😉

    I have a friend who is a "carbon" addict and he gets quite upset when
    anyone mentions the word plastic. He'll be heartbroken when I tell him how
    much heavier Simons new handlebars were than his old Aluminium ones.

    Tom
    --
    Return address is dead. Real address is at
    http://www.happy-penguin.info/address.jpg

  13. in message <[email hidden]>, Morten Reippuert Knudsen

    (') said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't
    you? After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of
    metal on my race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put
    the carbon ones on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand,
    they're BBB. They must be heavier. Mustn't they?

    Quoted message said:

    No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The
    aluminium bars are going back on.

    sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
    consider a carbon bar?

    Pretty bright thing. Simon see pretty bright thing. Simon /want/ pretty
    bright thing...

    Adult? Moi? Mais non, m'sieu.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; all in all you're just another click in the call
    ;; -- Minke Bouyed

  14. Peter Clinch said:
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen said:

    sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
    consider a carbon bar?

    <rolls_eyes>
    Because it's carbon.
    </rolls_eyes>

    That's like asking people why they need titanium, for goodness' sake! ;-)

    Titanium would be a better material for bars, IMO. Worn aluminum bars
    break without warning.

  15. Simon Brooke said:

    Pretty bright thing. Simon see pretty bright thing. Simon /want/ pretty
    bright thing...

    Bananas are cheaper.

  16. On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:40:58 +0200, Morten Reippuert

    Knudsen said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't you?
    After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of metal on my
    race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put the carbon ones
    on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand, they're BBB. They
    must be heavier. Mustn't they?

    Quoted message said:

    No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The aluminium
    bars are going back on.

    sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
    consider a carbon bar?

    I love carbon bling.

    I have carbon handlebars, carbon seatpost and *3* carbon bottle
    holders on my tourer.

    I've even considered getting one of these fitted, but I wasn't sure
    the carbon seat post has the right fitting.
    http://tinyurl.com/2qv79y from
    www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/carbon-fibre-toilet.jpg

  17. Kurgan Gringioni said:
    Peter Clinch said:
    Morten Reippuert Knudsen said:

    sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
    consider a carbon bar?

    <rolls_eyes>
    Because it's carbon.
    </rolls_eyes>

    That's like asking people why they need titanium, for goodness' sake! ;-)

    Titanium would be a better material for bars, IMO. Worn aluminum bars
    break without warning.

    Titanium? Got 🙂

    --
    Mike
    Van Tuyl titanium Dura Ace 10
    Fausto Coppi aluminium Ultegra 10
    Raleigh Record Sprint mongrel

  18. Simon Brooke said:

    Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes.

    wtf?

    The carbon bars might have been stuffed with epo ampules. Who'd you
    get the bars from?

  19. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Morten Reippuert Knudsen

    (') said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    I went out and bought myself a carbon handlebar. I mean, you do, don't
    you? After all, the handlebars were about the last remaining bit of
    metal on my race bike. And today I took the aluminium bars off, to put
    the carbon ones on. I mean, my aluminium bars aren't even a good brand,
    they're BBB. They must be heavier. Mustn't they?
    No. Aluminium bars, 260 grammes. Carbon fibre, 376 grammes. The
    aluminium bars are going back on.


    sounds like a carbon wrapped aluminum bar. btw why would you even
    consider a carbon bar?

    Pretty bright thing. Simon see pretty bright thing. Simon /want/ pretty
    bright thing...

    Adult? Moi? Mais non, m'sieu.

    Remain childish, it's cheaper.

    Adults ride steel bikes. With lugs. Done correctly, this requires a
    custom made Rivendell frame. And you'll have to wait three years. But,
    when you're an adult, you have the patience to deal with it. At least
    that's what you tell yourself. Besides, it gives you time to save up to
    pay for the silly thing. Which you'll need to do since adults eschew
    credit card debt.

  20. Fred Fredburger proclaimed to uk.rec.cycling ...

    Quoted message said:

    custom made Rivendell frame. And you'll have to wait three years. But,
    when you're an adult, you have the patience to deal with it.

    Rivendell is a cheap garden centre not far from me, I wonder if they have
    any deals on... 🙂

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