Warning: Haiwatha Bike Trail, Montana



"G.T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "MattB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> G.T. wrote:
>> > "Ed Pirrero" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> >>
>> >>We all started somewhere. I agree about the original poster BTW.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hmmm. I started on a mountain. That is why I bought a mtn bike. I
> bought
>> > a Bridgestone, took it home, and attempted the mountain behind my home.
>> > Where else would I start with a mtn bike? If I wanted to ride rails to
>> > trails I would have bought a road bike back then. I bought a mtn bike
>> > because I wanted to ride mountains. Where better to start riding
> mountains
>> > than on a mountain?
>> >
>> > Greg
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I don't really want to argue, but I started mountain biking in a high
>> desert volcanic formation that isn't a mountain. Should I have called it
>> desert biking and looked for a different kind of bike?
>>
>
> The point is I didn't buy a mtn bike to ride on paved or gravel covered
> roads.
>
> Greg
>

No one I have ever met who rides has....this statement borderlines on the
ridiculus for some reason....
>
 
"Dave W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "G.T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > "MattB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >> G.T. wrote:
> >> > "Ed Pirrero" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>We all started somewhere. I agree about the original poster BTW.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hmmm. I started on a mountain. That is why I bought a mtn bike. I
> > bought
> >> > a Bridgestone, took it home, and attempted the mountain behind my
home.
> >> > Where else would I start with a mtn bike? If I wanted to ride rails
to
> >> > trails I would have bought a road bike back then. I bought a mtn
bike
> >> > because I wanted to ride mountains. Where better to start riding
> > mountains
> >> > than on a mountain?
> >> >
> >> > Greg
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I don't really want to argue, but I started mountain biking in a high
> >> desert volcanic formation that isn't a mountain. Should I have called
it
> >> desert biking and looked for a different kind of bike?
> >>
> >
> > The point is I didn't buy a mtn bike to ride on paved or gravel covered
> > roads.
> >
> > Greg
> >
>
> No one I have ever met who rides has....this statement borderlines on the
> ridiculus for some reason....

Then why is Mr Pirrero taking his friends and family for "mountain bike"
rides on paved and gravel covered roads?

Greg
 
G.T. wrote:
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> > >> G.T. wrote:
> > >> > "Ed Pirrero" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >> > news:[email protected]...
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>We all started somewhere. I agree about the original poster BTW.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hmmm. I started on a mountain. That is why I bought a mtn bike. I
> > > bought
> > >> > a Bridgestone, took it home, and attempted the mountain behind my
> home.
> > >> > Where else would I start with a mtn bike? If I wanted to ride rails
> to
> > >> > trails I would have bought a road bike back then. I bought a mtn
> bike
> > >> > because I wanted to ride mountains. Where better to start riding
> > > mountains
> > >> > than on a mountain?
> > >> >
> > >> > Greg
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> I don't really want to argue, but I started mountain biking in a high
> > >> desert volcanic formation that isn't a mountain. Should I have called
> it
> > >> desert biking and looked for a different kind of bike?
> > >>
> > >
> > > The point is I didn't buy a mtn bike to ride on paved or gravel covered
> > > roads.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> >
> > No one I have ever met who rides has....this statement borderlines on the
> > ridiculus for some reason....
>
> Then why is Mr Pirrero taking his friends and family for "mountain bike"
> rides on paved and gravel covered roads?


Are you having difficulty with the written word? Go back and read what
I wrote, and then the "why" will be come clear. If, after re-reading,
it's STILL not clear, ask to explain in words of two syllables or less.

BTW, paved? Where did I say paved?

E.P.
 
"Ed Pirrero" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> G.T. wrote:
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> >
> > Then why is Mr Pirrero taking his friends and family for "mountain bike"
> > rides on paved and gravel covered roads?
>
>
> Are you having difficulty with the written word? Go back and read what
> I wrote, and then the "why" will be come clear. If, after re-reading,
> it's STILL not clear, ask to explain in words of two syllables or less.

The "why" is crystal clear. You're one of the many who have helped turn
this country into a nanny state.

>
> BTW, paved? Where did I say paved?
>

Ok, correction: "Then why is Mr Pirrero taking his friends and family for
"mountain bike" rides on gravel covered rail trails?" I'm sure you do
plenty of pavement, too, considering your nannyism.

Greg
 
G.T. wrote:

> Ok, correction: "Then why is Mr Pirrero taking his friends and family for
> "mountain bike" rides on gravel covered rail trails?" I'm sure you do
> plenty of pavement, too, considering your nannyism.
>
> Greg

All El Paso County(Colorado Springs) trails/bike paths are gravel.
What's your point?
 
CowPunk wrote:
> G.T. wrote:
>
>
>>Ok, correction: "Then why is Mr Pirrero taking his friends and family for
>>"mountain bike" rides on gravel covered rail trails?" I'm sure you do
>>plenty of pavement, too, considering your nannyism.
>>
>>Greg
>
>
> All El Paso County(Colorado Springs) trails/bike paths are gravel.
> What's your point?
>

I'm glad I don't live in Colorado Springs. Sounds mighty boring.

Greg

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"All my time I spent in heaven
Revelries of dance and wine
Waking to the sound of laughter
Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons
 
G.T. wrote:
> "Ed Pirrero" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >
> > G.T. wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Then why is Mr Pirrero taking his friends and family for "mountain bike"
> > > rides on paved and gravel covered roads?
> >
> >
> > Are you having difficulty with the written word? Go back and read what
> > I wrote, and then the "why" will be come clear. If, after re-reading,
> > it's STILL not clear, ask to explain in words of two syllables or less.
>
> The "why" is crystal clear. You're one of the many who have helped turn
> this country into a nanny state.

Holy straw man, Batman!

I guess you don't actually get the "why".

> I'm sure you do
> plenty of pavement, too, considering your nannyism.

I'm sure you're wrong - because when you don't have a real argument,
you have to invent one.

And of course, this leaves aside the FAMILY (including those who don't
yet ride a bike)aspect, which you also seem to have not read carefully.
Or at all.

What kid trailers can you take down singletrack? I'd love to have one.
Oh, it has to take two kids.

I've always considered roadies the snobbish biking assholes, but now I
see that kind of snobbishness is not confined only to roadies.

I'm beginning to smell a bit of bait here - maybe you're just trolling,
and I've bitten. Well, here's to spitting out the hook...

E.P.
 
CowPunk wrote:
> G.T. wrote:
>
> > Ok, correction: "Then why is Mr Pirrero taking his friends and family for
> > "mountain bike" rides on gravel covered rail trails?" I'm sure you do
> > plenty of pavement, too, considering your nannyism.
> >
> > Greg
>
> All El Paso County(Colorado Springs) trails/bike paths are gravel.
> What's your point?

I think he's doing a little trolling. All in good fun, I'm sure.

Or else he's that "serious" MTBer that gets all ****** off if you don't
immediately get off the trail (uphill or down.)

E.P.
 
Ed Pirrero wrote:
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>
> What kid trailers can you take down singletrack? I'd love to have one.
> Oh, it has to take two kids.
>
<snip>

A bit of a thread drift here, but maybe that's a good thing in this
case. I was just checking out these guys' site last night thinking I may
need to break down and actually spend some money on on a new townie. In
theory these sound like just the ticket for kids and other cargo, and
they claim you can still ride singletrack. I'm checking with our shop to
see if I can get a deal on one.

http://www.xtracycle.com/

Matt (no affiliation)
 
MattB wrote:
> In
> theory these sound like just the ticket for kids and other cargo, and
> they claim you can still ride singletrack. I'm checking with our shop to
> see if I can get a deal on one.
>
> http://www.xtracycle.com/

I've seen those. On the singletrack around here, the wheelbase would
never fly.

And I don't see how you're gonna get two kids in there. I'd love to
see it, though.

E.P.
 
Ed Pirrero wrote:
> I think he's doing a little trolling. All in good fun, I'm sure.

I doubt it... he flames anyone who doesn't "fit" his definition
of a MTBer.
 
"CowPunk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ed Pirrero wrote:
> > I think he's doing a little trolling. All in good fun, I'm sure.
>
> I doubt it... he flames anyone who doesn't "fit" his definition
> of a MTBer.
>

Well, I didn't think riding paved and gravelled bike paths fit anyone's
definition of MTBer.

Greg
 
"G.T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "CowPunk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Ed Pirrero wrote:
>> > I think he's doing a little trolling. All in good fun, I'm sure.
>>
>> I doubt it... he flames anyone who doesn't "fit" his definition
>> of a MTBer.
>>
>
> Well, I didn't think riding paved and gravelled bike paths fit anyone's
> definition of MTBer.
>
> Greg
>
>

What difference does it make where a person rides or what they ride as long
as it's what they want to do. If riding on a certain type of surface was
not my idea of what it should be, then I wouldn't ride there, however, if I
wanted to ride it then it would not be anyone else business. Geez, apply
your ideology to only yourself.
 
"CowPunk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> G.T. wrote:
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>> Well, I didn't think riding paved and gravelled bike paths fit anyone's
>> definition of MTBer.
>>
>> Greg
>
> You'd be surprised at how many people come to Colorado for vacation
> and go MTB'ng on a bike bath, or ride a ski lift. @700,000 people/yr
> and they spend around $165 mil/yr, in Colorado.
> http://www.americantrails.org/resources/economics/biketourismcolo.html
>

I'm one of them, enjoy riding the trails taking in the scenery. I haven't
biked in Colorado Springs but have it in plans to do so. I lived there in
1976 for a short while, great place, spend a lot of time in a 4-wheel drive
and on a motorcycle on the dirt roads above the Garden of the Gods. Is
the Rock Quarry still there, where they created a maze of caves and tunnels?
 
di wrote:
> "G.T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>"CowPunk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>Ed Pirrero wrote:
>>>
>>>>I think he's doing a little trolling. All in good fun, I'm sure.
>>>
>>>I doubt it... he flames anyone who doesn't "fit" his definition
>>>of a MTBer.
>>>
>>
>>Well, I didn't think riding paved and gravelled bike paths fit anyone's
>>definition of MTBer.
>>
>>
>
> What difference does it make where a person rides or what they ride as long
> as it's what they want to do. If riding on a certain type of surface was
> not my idea of what it should be, then I wouldn't ride there, however, if I
> wanted to ride it then it would not be anyone else business. Geez, apply
> your ideology to only yourself.
>

This is alt.mountain-bike, not alt.rails-to-trails-bike, nor
alt.paved-bike-path-bike. I mean, really. You wanna ride gravel roads
or paved bike paths go hang out in rec.bicycles.soc. Don't bore us here.

Greg

--
"All my time I spent in heaven
Revelries of dance and wine
Waking to the sound of laughter
Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons
 
di wrote:

> What difference does it make where a person rides or what they ride as long
> as it's what they want to do.

Which part of "mountain" are you struggling with?
 
"pete fagerlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> di wrote:
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>> What difference does it make where a person rides or what they ride as
>> long as it's what they want to do.
>
> Which part of "mountain" are you struggling with?

The uphill part, downhill is fine.
 
G.T. wrote:
> This is alt.mountain-bike, not alt.rails-to-trails-bike, nor
> alt.paved-bike-path-bike. I mean, really. You wanna ride gravel roads
> or paved bike paths go hang out in rec.bicycles.soc. Don't bore us here.
>
> Greg

Donning asbestos suit myself...

Quite true. But geesh folks, it was the guys first post. Surely it
did not require someone reaming him a new a**hole to let him know most
people would really not be interested in hearing about some rail-trail
info.

>From my perspective Ed seems like a reasonable guy who likes to bike
with his family and they don't happen to enjoy technical (or even easy)
singletrack yet. Doesn't make him a bad person. He got sucked into
the vortex after being flamed and shot a few barbs back himself.

I say cut the guy some slack. Ya know you can't ostracize every new
person because they don't fit YOUR description of what a "mountain
biker" should be. You can let folks know the status quo without
dousing them with jet fuel.

Zipping up suit and adding second layer ;-)

TS
 
"pete fagerlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> di wrote:
>
>> What difference does it make where a person rides or what they ride as
>> long as it's what they want to do.
>
> Which part of "mountain" are you struggling with?

so are you saying that riding gravel roads in the San Juan's or Sneffles
range at 9000 or 10000 feet isn't mountain biking when on a mountain bike?
Sometimes the approach is more difficult than the single track.......

Gary (that's if one chooses to ride the approach instead of being
shuttled.....)
 
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